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IBM Plays SimCity With Portland, Oregon

Hugh Pickens writes "Portland, Oregon will be the first city to use IBM's new software called Systems Dynamics for Smarter Cities, containing 3,000 equations which collectively seek to model cities' emergent behavior and help them figure out how policy can affect the lives of their citizens. The program seeks to quantify the cause-and-effect relationships between seemingly uncorrelated urban phenomena. 'What's the connection, for example, between ... obesity rates and carbon emissions?' writes Greg Lindsay. 'To find out, simply round up experts to hash out the linkages, translate them into algorithms, and upload enough historical data to populate the model. Then turn the knobs to see what happens when you nudge the city in one direction.' One of the drivers of the 'Portland Plan' is the city's commitment to a 40 percent decrease in carbon emissions by 2030, which necessitates less driving and more walking and biking. After running the model, planners discovered a positive feedback loop: More walking and biking would lead to lower obesity rates for Portlanders. In turn, a fitter population would find walking and biking a more attractive option. But as the field of urban systems gathers steam, it's important to remember that IBM and its fellow technology companies aren't the first to offer a quantitative toolkit to cities. In the 1970s, RAND built models they thought could predict fire patterns in New York, and then used them to justify closing fire stations in NYC's poorest sections in the name of efficiency, a decision that would ultimately displace 600,000 people as their neighborhoods burned."

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  1. Roadless by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tear up all the roads. Replace with rail.

    1. Re:Roadless by iteyoidar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Trains. Fire Trains. Trainbulances. If you don't think a Fire Train Truck Train would be totally badass, I don't know what to say

    2. Re:Roadless by royallthefourth · · Score: 2

      Forklifts or other small vehicles, of course.

    3. Re:Roadless by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 4, Informative

      Forklifts or other small vehicles, of course.

      Hell, I'm a forklift dealer; so if all the trucks in the world were replaced with forklifts than I'd be an exceedingly happy man- but your thinking is so fantastically full of shit as to be unbelieveable.

      You want to replace diesel trucks designed to run on the roads with other diesel trucks, designed to run for a hundred yards at a time, with a top speed of ~5mph, with big steel forks sticking out of the front; in the name of effeciency? Did you guess that the average forklift weighs about 2x its max payload unladen, and will get ~2-5mpg (carrying ~2.5t max, vs. ~20mpg for a van that would carry the same, or vs. ~10mpg for a truck that would carry 10-25t)? Do you have any understanding of anything, other than dogmatic "road vehicles==BAD"?

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    4. Re:Roadless by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      How do emergency services operate?

      Once every Portlander is biking everywhere, eating all organic foods, and having the health of their aura measured at least once a month--you won't need emergency services. No one will ever get sick, and all will live in a paradise of virtual immortality.

      Or, at least, that's what that white guy with dreadlocks in my drum circle told me.

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    5. Re:Roadless by David+Greene · · Score: 2

      I don't live in Portland but where I do live (MSP) that wouldn't work at all. Why? Because of the way the metro area has developed and how the natural landscape exists, it would be costly and ineffective.

      I've worked on Twin Cities transit issues for nearly a decade, so this comes from long experience.

      You've got a few bits of information wrong. Rail has in fact worked very well here in MSP. The Hiawatha line is outperforming every predicted metric. Northstar is underperforming for a few reasons. It was only built to Big Lake, so it misses the large ridership pool in St. Cloud. It opened right as the recession started. Commuter rail is for commuters. People were losing jobs so fewer commuters = lower ridership. I also believe commuter rail may not be the best fit here because we haven't sprawled out enough. Most people don't yet drive 30 miles or more to work. LRT/BRT should be able to capture a great majority of commuters. And BTW, Northstar's numbers are rising. But they will probably fall again as we enter a double-dip recession.

      You are right about the suburb-suburb need. That's a big hole in the system. Unfortunately, the suburbs kicked out Metro Transit when they decided to go the opt-out route and the opt-outs don't seem interested in providing suburb-to-suburb service. They probably can't figure out who should pay for what. This is why opt-outs are a bad idea. A regional transit system should have one regional transit provider that can design the system most effectively.

      An area doesn't need super-high density for rail to work. LRT works very well in Dallas (Dallas!), Salt Lake City and many other medium-sized metro areas that have a similar development history to the Twin Cities.

      There is quite a extensive plan for transitways in the Twin Cities. We have Hiawatha, Central Corridor is under construction. Southwest is not too far behind. Cedar/35-W BRT is under development (haltingly, it seems). Bottineau is well into planning and Gateway is starting up.

      Dakota county is getting BRT because that's what your elected officials wanted. Only recently has the county board begun to get a clue about the economic development driver that rail is. Your state legislators are hopeless. Holberg, Gerlach and company are rabidly anti-transit. You guys barely got even BRT in spite of them. The money goes to those who fight for it and so far Hennepin and Anoka counties have been the most vocal and active about wanting it. The entire east metro has dropped the ball on both developing transit ridership and strongly demanding a bigger slice of the pie.

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    6. Re:Roadless by nschubach · · Score: 4, Funny

      But...forklifts run on batteries powered by magic.

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    7. Re:Roadless by royallthefourth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Naturally a city with such a good infrastructure would also have plentiful fire hydrants. Slashdot posters can't seem to imagine anything but the suburban wastelands they live in.

    8. Re:Roadless by David+Greene · · Score: 2

      My opinion is that their projected ridership numbers were very, very low.

      That's your opinion. Ridership projections go through enormous scrutiny at the federal level. Any transit project goes though orders of magnitude more study and justification than any road project. This is, of course, by design.

      The service level provided by the opt-outs are far and away superior in every. single. way. to MT for the majority needs of the public at this point.

      Yet they do not provide the suburb-suburb service you say is critical. Metro Transit carries the vast majority of ridership in the area, so it seems the public has opted for it over the opt-outs. It's insane to have the number of transit providers we do in the Twin Cities. It's wasteful and it results in parochialism which simply means certain needs go unmet.

      Ride an MVTA or SWT bus and then a MT bus

      I've ridden both. I have found in both cases the quality of service is pretty variable. I've met extremely welcoming, happy, helpful Metro Transit drivers and downright nasty MVTA drivers. I've ridden in very comfortable Metro Transit buses and MVTA buses that looked to be about 15 years old.

      Personally I prefer my silent, low cost, express transit without being scowled at, fearing for my safety, and wondering if I won't get run over as the bus tries to make its next stop.

      I hear this sort of thing a lot but it just doesn't ring true to my experience. I ride urban Metro Transit routes all the time and I have never feared for my safety. In fact I've quite enjoyed observing and learning how people from other areas of the city, different ethnic backgrounds, etc. live and interact. I find it quite fun, actually. Now, that doesn't mean things can't improve. I wish drivers would be more proactive at booting people off the bus when they use foul language. That's my #1 beef. I have in fact witnessed drivers doing that, but not enough. Typically the offenders are teenagers of every race and class and we all know that teenagers like to present an overinflated view of themselves. Their behavior can be offensive and downright weird at times, but nothing one wouldn't see in any high school.

      The opt outs, primarily providing commuter service, don't have a lot of teenage riders. I think that has something to do with the social experience. I haven't ridden it a lot but I wouldn't be surprised if the BE line (one of the few suburb-suburb opt-out providers) has a similar ridership profile to Metro Transit and a similar rider experience.

      I think it's a bad idea and it will not do what they think it will in the least.

      I tend to agree but perhaps not as stridently. BRT has worked in limited cases (Brazil is often cited) but it has nowhere near the power of rail.

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    9. Re:Roadless by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 2

      Fire hydrants provide the water with some pressure (50 PSI) but to get that water up into buildings, you know like Portland has, you need Fire Department pump trucks.

      And ladder trucks, or are the firemen going to haul those in on Segways?

  2. No Disasters by mangu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just make sure they disable disasters before they play. An alien monster destroying the power plant wouldn't be nice.

    1. Re:No Disasters by srhill · · Score: 2

      ... alien monster ...

      Aliens wouldn't work. After a couple minutes, they'd realize they fit in here, and we'd buy them a beer and rent them a room.

      In Portland, we'd need special Portland disasters (in order of least to most disastrous):
      + A toxic patchouli cloud (poisoning residents)
      + A mob of angry zoobombers on giant bicycles (scaring the populace)
      + Busses, turning left (killing pedestrians)
      + A soy- / gluten- / tree nut- / wheat- / dairy-free and vegan food shortage (starving the citizens)
      + 1/4" of snow (1000s of traffic accidents)

      And worst of all:
      + A local brewery shutdown (all out pandemonium)

  3. Re:simple consulting? by Xemu · · Score: 2

    What makes IBM's modelling so special?

    Apparenty they found a computer model that infuses people with a desire to walk and bike:

    After running the model, planners discovered a positive feedback loop: More walking and biking would lead to lower obesity rates for Portlanders. In turn, a fitter population would find walking and biking a more attractive option.

    I find it very hard to believe that this feedback loop exists in real life to any significant degree. If it really was true, the professional sports athletes would prefer walking and biking over driving their cars, and the sport stars seem to be preferring their luxury sports cars today.

    IBM's model must be missing one or more important variables to why people choose cars over walking.

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  4. Re:Models don't tell you anything you didn't know by goldspider · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People put so much stake in computer models anymore that when they don't match up with reality, reality is blamed for the error.

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  5. Interesting claim about RAND by sco08y · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the 1970s, RAND built models they thought could predict fire patterns in New York, and then used them to justify closing fire stations in NYC's poorest sections in the name of efficiency, a decision that would ultimately displace 600,000 people as their neighborhoods burned.

    So the source is a wikipedia page, which cites this book, which is a dead end for now.

    Are the authors talking about this study?

    If anyone's got a source that actually backs up the notion that RAND explicitly recommended closing down fire stations in poor areas, or the actual claims that "they're just committing arson anyway", I'm very curious, as that's a pretty wild claim. I've emailed them for comment.

    1. Re:Interesting claim about RAND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Thanks for that link. It has the "six companies were disbanded" statement on page 22. As the report points out, south Bronx, central Brooklyn, Harlem and lower east side had the highest number of fire incidents(Fig 2) and the highest concentration of existing fire companies(Fig 1). It also showed that simply adding fire companies(in the same fire house!) did NOT reduce the workload for existing companies(top of page 7).
        Finally, their computer models were not designed to predict fire patterns. That element existed but only to support creating scenarios to test the real purpose of the model: How to allocate fixed fire-fighting resources. I highly recommend reading the full report.

  6. Re:Models don't tell you anything you didn't know by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I think that your dismissal of models is a bit excessive(in a sense, all of mathematics doesn't tell you anything you didn't assume in your axioms: it just so happens that there is a lot of interesting stuff that you didn't know you were assuming...); but one should certainly be cautious about them.

    Both an accurate model and a shitty model are, in the hands of a suitably skilled consultant's graphic design team, essentially identical in their ability to provide a dense veneer of scientific rationality, 3D-rendered near-future utopias attractively large-format-printed on posters suitable for display at planning meetings, and other charming props to hang on your existing plans and prejudices...

    Things can get particularly ugly if there are large fudge factors in your initial dataset: modeling material stresses, or aerodynamics or such is hard because it is easy to be wrong about difficult stuff, and easy for slight mistakes to cascade(at least, though, there are correct answers that you can hopefully find, even if you don't know them just yet); doing societal cost/benefit analysis is hard because there are lots of factors that don't have quantified costs or benefits, so you can shove the model around just by slapping different price tags on unquantified things.

  7. Re:I found 2 ways to succeed in sim city by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    In vernacular usage SC2000, one of the brave exceptions to the law that the sequel is always shit compared to the original, is sufficiently canonical that it may be referred to simply as 'SimCity'. The same is not generally true of the subsequent sequels.

  8. Re:simple consulting? by Thugthrasher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apparenty they found a computer model that infuses people with a desire to walk and bike:

    After running the model, planners discovered a positive feedback loop: More walking and biking would lead to lower obesity rates for Portlanders. In turn, a fitter population would find walking and biking a more attractive option.

    I find it very hard to believe that this feedback loop exists in real life to any significant degree. If it really was true, the professional sports athletes would prefer walking and biking over driving their cars, and the sport stars seem to be preferring their luxury sports cars today.

    IBM's model must be missing one or more important variables to why people choose cars over walking.

    You're misinterpreting that. It said that a fitter population would find walking and biking a more attractive option. Meaning more attractive than an unfit population would.

    It's not that most fit people would choose walking over cars, especially not in all situations. It's that a higher percentage of fit people would choose walking or biking than unfit people would. Which makes perfect sense. If I'm going 3 blocks and I'm in good shape, that's not much of a walk. Especially if it's in decent weather. So I may walk it so that I don't have to deal with getting into my car, parking, etc. But if I'm 350 lbs., then that's a difficult walk, so I'm going to take my car.
    If I'm going 10 miles or the weather is bad, then I'm driving no matter how fit I am.

  9. Re:simple consulting? by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    I am sure a lot of us will prefer to bike and walk to work...

    But the problem is Work is in the City and Home is in Rural/Suburban areas.
    We move to these Rural/Suburban areas because of less crime and in general people just not caring about anyone else property. I use to live in the City I couldn't even keep flowers planted in front of my house, or garbage can lids on my garbage cans, any attempts to make my area of my community a nicer place to live came with people who tried to make sure it went further down to a ghetto. When I moved in it was a nice area, Then it just got worse and worse over the years. Then I moved to the country, Sure I need to drive 20 miles to work but life is much safer and nicer.

    I am well aware I am part of the problem of increasing global warming, and by escaping the city I am adding to suburban sprawl, and also the city looses an other person who tried to make their community a little bit nicer. But I have the means for a better life and I chose it.

    The choice wasn't pro or against environmental concerns, I am actually looking to get a more fuel efficient cart and my current car is also really good too. Even when I lived in the City I need to Drive to work and back not because the Car was much faster but the car acts as a Tank, as the City wasn't very safe to ride you bike. And 80% of the police force (as stated from a police officer from that city) is corrupt and lazy.

    Most cities are not New York City, or LA they are much smaller and don't have the resources that is needed for a good life.

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  10. Legislators and Councilmen by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    and help them figure out how policy can affect the lives of their citizens.

    You mean that until now, the people who are paid to take decisions for us have absolutely no idea of the potential outcomes of these decisions? That would explain a lot.

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  11. Re:Models don't tell you anything you didn't know by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2

    I'm sorry if I sounded dismissive. Computer models are very good for developing plans involving things with a lot of complex interactions (like designing airplanes or more fuel efficient cars). The problem is this, if you don't know how to create the design or plan without a computer model, you will not be able to design a computer model that will let you create the design or plan. I can drive a nail through a board to hold that board to another one with a rock, but using a hammer will make it much easier and will likely allow me to hammer the nail in so that it holds the board tighter. But if the nail isn't long enough to go all the through the board and into the one I am trying to attach it to, it doesn't matter if I use a stone or a hammer.

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  12. Re:simple consulting? by somersault · · Score: 2

    It's true that people would want to walk/bike more if they're fit, just to keep them fit and feeling good, and to save money. I enjoy an occasional walk home from work, since it only takes an hour. Most of the time I use the bus though.

    BUT. For a large number of people walking and biking will be infeasible simply due to the distances involved, and the extra time taken. This could result in people being more careful about where they live and work, but I think the ideal would be electric vehicles plus people being better educated about nutrition and exercise (which sounds pretty damn boring, but once you experience the benefits for yourself, you will wish you did it all sooner!).

    I live in quite a small city though, so it only takes a couple of hours tops to walk anywhere really. Strangely I started feeling like I had more time when I started walking places more often, but I think that was probably a result of 1) being more organised and 2) being less stressed.

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  13. Re:simple consulting? by geekoid · · Score: 2

    Actually, setting a hard drive the has had a bloatware deleted from it next to a HD with bloatware to get rid of bloatware would be the Homeopathic approach. You're approach actually does something.

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