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How Does GPS Change Us?

ATKeiper writes "People have talked for a while about the effects of GPS on our driving ability and our sense of direction; one researcher at McGill has even been developing an exercise regimen to compensate for our supposedly atrophying navigational ability. But is GPS reshaping our lives in a more fundamental sense? The author of this new essay draws on science, sociology, and literature to argue that GPS is transforming how we think about travel and exploration. How can we discover 'the new' in an age when everything around us is mapped?" My own experience is that GPS has made me much more aware of location, by showing me the bird's-eye view, and letting me instantly compare alternate routes.

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  1. "How can we discover 'the new' in an age when by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    thing around us is mapped?"

    How is this a GPS problem? Maps existed before GPS...

    Also, isn't it like asking "How can I discover new restaurants (or products) when everything is already reviewed?"

    If you want to pioneer, go to the bottom of the ocean or into space. You know, the edges of human knowledge. Don't stay safely within the confines of society and then complain that your "exploration" is already known.

    1. Re:"How can we discover 'the new' in an age when by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Arguably, GPS is better than legacy maps if you want to 'discover'; because all it does is(in most module implementations) spit out a NMEA or vendor binary equivalent of x,y,z coordinates, time, and heading at intervals.

      You can have an absolutely blank "map" and still accurately place whatever you find within a reasonably well-behaved coordinate space. Plus, when you get lost, you can breadcrumb your way back home before you have to get all Donner Party on whoever is nearby...

      If you prefer to pick your discoveries from categories that you actually care about, you can selectively or fully introduce map data for roads, businesses, manhole covers, whatever...

      Plus, of course, there is the entire class of "discovery" where having a really accurate timebase that isn't full of caesium is pretty handy...

      Guess what, back in the day, the fact that the horizon of human knowledge was so narrow didn't tend to promote discovery, it tended to promote people living, breeding, and dying within spitting distance of the same place and telling wild stories about antipodian monsters and the Kingdom Of Prestor John. Good navigational aids, on the other hand, get people off their asses because they make travel more valuable and less risky.

      Now, if you want to talk about what GPS has done to the kiddie's compass and map-reading skills, go right ahead; but a highly accurate coordinate reference system is a boon to discoverers. Those poor guys undertaking the Great Trigonometric Survey would likely have happily given a testicle for access to GPS fixes...

    2. Re:"How can we discover 'the new' in an age when by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      I'm a GPS addict and managed on more than one occassion to out-orienteer an Army Ranger Orienteering instructor. It's not just being able to use a compass, but to "feel" the lay of the land to sense where the contours on the map are under your feet so that you can make minute corrections with no external references. Following the explicit rules without taking the bigger picture into your head will leave you lost with a very accurate path of how you got there. GPS and extensive use of digital maps don't hurt the "art" of finding your way. They just make it much more safe if you ever do get actually lost (not the "oh no, I have to back-track 100 yards to that srtream and follow that for 30 yards to the road" lost that panics an army ranger trying to show off his trade).

    3. Re:"How can we discover 'the new' in an age when by nospam007 · · Score: 2

      It also changes they way my money is spent.
      I always use my GPS because it beeps if I'm speeding. Since my gov. introduced point-based licenses, too much speeding tickets get your license revoked. Also >50% overspeeding is now a crime that gets you jail time.
      So I don't have to watch the speedometer all the time to avoid paying up when the cops install a speed trap.
      It also warns me of the fixed radar speed-traps, that get moved around a lot.
      I didn't get a single speeding ticket since I used this.
      I always wondered why the Navigators don't have an option to set the maximum speed on the cruise control automatically at every speed change, instead of forcing me to do it manually.

      I also noticed that even if your choice is 'shortest route', that it tries to avoid residential areas as much as possible, so if everybody used this, we'd all sleep better because there's less traffic where you live that way.

  2. Obvious... by msauve · · Score: 3, Insightful

    at least to me.

    I've broadened by navigational horizons. First, by turning on "Avoid Highways," which exposes you to side roads. Secondly, I've found that GPS can show you shorter routes you might never have found/taken because you chose the simple/easy route.

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    1. Re:Obvious... by rolfwind · · Score: 2

      My GPS takes longer, side roads rather than the shorter/faster routes without me even asking for it. In this one area, it even gets off the main road and backs up into a side road and takes 3 extra turns, just to get where the main road would have taken me in 1/3 of the time and straight ahead. Another "helpful" routing was that rather go 1 more exit on the highway and be at that destination, it cuts it short and takes me through town's main street with a light every 50 feet. A five minute trip turned into a 45 minute one.

      Of course, it's a crappy 5 y/o Garmin rather than Google Maps.

    2. Re:Obvious... by PPH · · Score: 2

      Avoiding highways and using side roads raises the ire of the locals. Now, instead of sitting in a traffic jam, we can (without fear of getting lost) cut through the adjacent neighborhoods.

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    3. Re:Obvious... by bgat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If we could get past the obvious privacy implications, seems like Google Maps et. al could incorporate the route you ACTUALLY took into future requests for similar routes. It always irritates me when I get an obviously sub-optimal route from Google Maps, but it's never clear to me how to actually fix the problem. If Google took feedback from where I actually drove instead, over time the problem might fix itself.

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    4. Re:Obvious... by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

      That's what I do when I just want to drive around - though I take it one step further and just let it calculate the shortest route between a few random towns I don't recognize. If it warns me there's unpaved roads - all the better!

      It's taken me past more windmills than I knew even existed around here, it's taken me to a little harbor town that looked like it should be a tourist trap but there was barely a soul in sight, it took me past two camels doing the procreation dance (note: I'm in western Europe, and no.. there wasn't a circus in town), it's taken me to back roads that were widened for agricultural traffic but were absolutely dead and going 180km/h was safe and nobody around to say otherwise and cite me, just as it's taken me to back roads that could hardly be called roads and all and required me to crawl along at 5km/h, zigzagging my way through what seemed like the path least likely to get my car (not a 4x4) stuck.

      Some of my best 'just driving around' I owe to the GPS. I would rarely have ventured into random roads myself, as many of them here are traps into one-way mazes, or lead into housing areas where that very road is the only entry and exit road, but you'll never find it again once you're in the middle of the area.

      More recently, I drove through the California mountain range at night. The GPS (on an Android phone) was a great help in anticipating what the road was going to do - especially in the Arizona/desert side where there's long straight roads that go up and down like a rollercoaster.. at least you think they go straight until you go up a hill and- oh hello, bend.

      And in another instance, I very much appreciate GPS coupled with other information systems to get me to my destination as quickly as possible when I'm not traveling for the scenery, and the device can tell me to take a different road if it knows the one I'm on is congested and the alternate will get me there faster.

    5. Re:Obvious... by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Avoiding highways and using side roads raises the ire of the locals. Now, instead of sitting in a traffic jam, we can (without fear of getting lost) cut through the adjacent neighborhoods.

      Not necessarily.

      When people planned trips with gas station maps they never left the freeway. Biggest risk they would take is a US Route.
      When the freeway bypassed small towns those towns died.

      Now with Nav units, and Google maps people will actually choose (horrors) State Highways (yup) when traveling. Recently we were delighted to find some great little towns with nice shops along our route when we deliberately set the the GPS to take us off the freeway via US routes and State routes. The distance was shorter, the view better, and the total time ended up about the same, because there is so little traffic and fewer traffic cops.

      Folks in the restaurant in this one out of the way little berg in eastern Oregon said they saw a lot of people who found the place via Google maps or their GPS, and business had actually picked up since Street View car mapped the entire route. They were glad to have the business as was the local hotel.

      When see the type of highway you will be driving on the back routes are far more fun, and the GPS makes sure you don't end up sleeping in the car.

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    6. Re:Obvious... by adolf · · Score: 2

      It always irritates me when I get an obviously sub-optimal route from Google Maps, but it's never clear to me how to actually fix the problem. If Google took feedback from where I actually drove instead, over time the problem might fix itself.

      Interestingly enough, they do: Google Map Maker. It was (somewhat negatively) covered here on Slashdot awhile back, but I can't be bothered to find TFA just now.

      It's not automatic, but then I don't know that it should be: A lot of what's wrong with a routing system (any of them) are factual errors which in turn lead to incorrect routing.

      I've fixed/added/deleted a number of things around my own town, and have had every change (that I didn't screw up myself somehow) be accepted. (Rejected edits came with feedback to improve the submission.)

      In particular, Google had some completely bizarre and/or plainly impossible routes to get from my house to the nearest interstate, which made trips out of town very annoying whenever I'd actually take the time to set a destination before leaving.

      For instance: I know the right and proper way to get to the highway; but the bitch inside my phone always insisted I was doing it wrong and that I should both drive around the block and use an entrance ramp an extra mile away for no good reason.

      It turned out that some intersections were described improperly, with wrong-wayed streets leading to them, and incorrect turn restrictions. A few edits later (and some passage of time), and it's working fine.

      Map Maker is a crowd-sourced moderator-based system, apparently including some concept of karma/reputation: Your edits are reviewed by your peers (and if not, eventually by Google), and if they're sane, they're applied. And if you have enough sanity in your edits, eventually it gets get easier/faster to have your edits "stick."

      Previous to Map Maker they had a system on their regular Google Maps web interface where you could describe what was wrong (ie: complain) and they'd try to fix it themselves if you bothered to fill out the rather non-complicated form...but I only had about 50% luck with that actually producing correct results.

    7. Re:Obvious... by adolf · · Score: 2

      This, exactly: "Avoid highways" sometimes is almost always shorter, and usually just as fast in the real world. The change from 65-90MPH divided highway driving to "look at that," or "let's stop at this diner" is refreshing and makes trips far more enjoyable whenever time is not of the essence (and sometimes, even when it is)...and the food is better. :)

      But sometimes, I wish my GPS had more than an "Avoid Highways" setting; maybe even "Avoid US route" and "Avoid state routes" toggles.

      "Avoid Highways," both on my Droid and my Garmin, still tends to keep me pretty well on the beaten path: It seems happy to pick a 2-lane US route and stick with it for an eternity, and that's just boring.

      Even for work, when I might drive 2 hours to get to where I've got to be, I often don't want to take the same route back home. I'm already wore out from one moderate drive and a day's work; the last thing I want is to see the same scenery again on a straight section of 2-lane road that seems to never end, as that would only add to my fatigue.

      The Droid will allow me to choose from a variety of alternate routes, but those invariably consist of the most major "non-highway" roads it can come up with: Generally, a choice of longer routes consisting of the same boring shit. And that's not what I want: I want stop signs. I want little towns. I want curvy roads, ups and downs, and scenery. I do enjoy generally enjoy driving, but I want anything but the dangers of this.

    8. Re:Obvious... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      What we have in my area is retarded signage. On a 55mph road you'll have a sign saying 35 on a turn on which you can easily do 45 even in the rain, followed by a turn which says nothing on which you should be doing 25. It would be nice if the GPS could notify you when you're coming up on something like this (which happens ALL THE TIME on CA Highway 175, for example.)

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  3. GPS creates two extremes. by BlakJak-ZL1VMF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) Smart people who know how to take GPS information and couple it with some commonsense / a genuine interest in being a little self sufficient and a little clever about navigation.

    2) People who don't care to know any better, and will simply treat them as a tool that prevents them from having to think. These are the kinds of people who will follow their GPS into a river / off a cliff / the wrong way on a one way street / etc.

    When navigating in a foreign country or in a city i'm utterly unfamiliar with, the GPS is golden. But having only had a personal one for the last few months i'm working hard not to let it dilute my head-for-direction, by continuing to look at flat maps, find points of reference, and continue to let the 'relationships' between geographic locations build in my conciousness, particularly in my home city.

    I've also found that GPS's don't always make smart navigation decisions; for example I don't believe that adding an additional 40% in distance for a theoretical 10% saving in time is actually smart driving, esp when that time saving is based on projected speed limits and doesn't deal to traffic, traffic lights, road works...

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    1. Re:GPS creates two extremes. by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's certainly not black and white as you make it out to be. If I want to learn a particular area, I learn it, and the GPS becomes a learning aid. If I'm somewhere on business and just want to function in the region without worrying about where everything is, I'll often let the GPS do all the navigation. I'm not a retard, and don't take illegal exits or carpool lanes just because the stupid box thinks it'll get me there; I just don't need to learn the city. I'm not there to memorize their quirky stripes of concrete, I'm there to meet people and take care of business.

      I've also found there's a wide variety in the quality of the various mapping tools. Some nav units are pretty good (Garmin), some are pretty bad (Sync), but none of the self-contained boxes I've used are as good as Google Maps at finding optimized routes. And none of the nav units is worth crap as far as parsing addresses. Having to type the number independently from the street is awkward. Having to pick a particular stretch of road based on street number (Sync) is a maddening exercise. Google just figures out how to parse whatever I throw at it, and it does a great job of it.

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    2. Re:GPS creates two extremes. by BlakJak-ZL1VMF · · Score: 2

      Oh c'mon, it's nothing new.
      Just ask anyone in emergency services who has to implement road closures due to an accident or similar.
      This has a tendency to turn some motorists into melonheads because you've taken them off the one route they know about that gets them from A to B. Even when A is home and B is the same workplace they've commuted to for years.
      Taking away people's need to think leaves them utterly without option when they're taken out of the comfort zone - say, for example, when the GPS fails.[1]

      At least pre GPS folks actually had to look at a map, plan their route and were at least peripherally aware that alternatives existed. And heck, maybe they'd even carry their map in the car to consult if a road was blocked/closed?

      Yes of course my comment was a generalisation. However I do think that the bell curve is being flattened by GPS.

      [1]Ironically the one thing the GPS is good at, is 'rerouting' and giving you an option that doesn't require you to stop and consult a map. But my point stands. It actually reminds me of the difference between catching someone their fish for dinner, and teaching them to fish...

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  4. GPS kills by danbuter · · Score: 2

    At least a few people every year die because they go out into the boonies with a GPS and no map. The GPS puts them on some kind of goat trail, they get stuck, and then found a month later, dead.

    1. Re:GPS kills by cptdondo · · Score: 2

      Well, yes. I just went through this a couple of weeks ago on a hiking trip. We hiked on snowed-over unmarked trails. Without a GPS it would have been impossible. OTOH we had compasses and maps to back up the GPS and constantly referred back to the printed maps and got a bearing by compass so we knew at all times which way to bail if the GPS died.

      But the USFS was busy recovering people from the same area who went in with a GPS and no maps, and then got totally lost when the GPS died. From what I gathered, 2 rescues / day.... These were unhurt parties who lost their way. No business being out there in the first place.

    2. Re:GPS kills by plover · · Score: 2

      Bullshit. Stupidity kills those people, not GPS.

      GPS shouldn't get the blame because someone was capable of buying a unit and following it to his doom. That's like blaming the gasoline in his tank for taking him to the middle of the desert.

      I am so fucking tired of people trotting out these stupid examples, and blaming the technology. Stupid people are always going to find novel ways to remove themselves from the gene pool. If you think they deserve any attention at all, then celebrate them -- read about them winning Darwin awards and have a laugh. Read about them in Fark (the Florida tag is good for lots of them.) Watch an episode of the Worlds Dumbest <blank>. But just as you don't blame the alligator for biting the guy teasing it with a fish, you don't blame the GPS for showing someone a road that doesn't have services on it. That's just amplifying the stupid with your own comments.

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    3. Re:GPS kills by plover · · Score: 4, Funny

      One of my favorite scenes from the movie "Rat Race" was when Whoopi Goldberg followed Kathy Bates' instructions to the freeway without buying a squirrel from her. As they're plunging down the embankment to land in the pile of wrecked cars, they pass a series of hand-lettered signs:

      You
      Should
      Have
      Bought
      A
      Squirrel

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    4. Re:GPS kills by nick0909 · · Score: 2

      From my experience working on a Search & Rescue team I must say someone having the knowledge of how to navigate with a map and compass is pretty rare. Congrats on always having a backup, that is what will save you. I have rescued people that were out on a million dollar snow cat with space-aged GPS and laptops with moving maps, it all turned in to a huge pile of useless crap when it slid sideways down a hill and got stuck against some logs. They had no backup, no other plan. Technology won't save you, knowledge and planning will. Oh, and I was a bit shocked at first... "recoveries" are for dead bodies, "rescues" are for live ones. I hope the USFS wasn't busy doing recoveries all day...

    5. Re:GPS kills by cptdondo · · Score: 2

      Get the book "How to Stay Found" and practice it. My kids and I went out on a practice hike across broken backcountry (no trails, volcanic rock, very broken terrain with collapsed lava tubes, lots of obstacles.) My 13 year old daughter led us with a map and compass for 2 hours. My 10 year old son brought us back. At the end of 4 hours, we ended up about 100 yards from where we started.

      It's not brain surgery. But you have to have a clue and you have to practice.

      Sorry about the misuse of the words. "Rescues", not recoveries.

    6. Re:GPS kills by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      The GPS puts them on some kind of goat trail, they get stuck, and then found a month later, dead.

      Well, yes. I just went through this a couple of weeks ago on a hiking trip.

      I must say, you're looking rather well, all considered.

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  5. Discovery is easier when it's harder to get lost by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    To the contrary, GPS and live maps are an amazing tool for discovery. Not only can you see potentially interesting things around you, but you feel more at ease going to see them because you know it's easy enough to find your way back to the main path...

    That said, I wish makers of navigation software would make it easier to define many possible side paths you were interested in ahead of time.

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  6. Business trips by Cimexus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well I don't usually use GPS much when I'm on holiday, or when I'm in my home country, since I know most of it pretty well after 30 years. But for me the biggest benefit of ubiquitous GPS (first on separate GPS devices, then on phones) is on BUSINESS trips.

    The boss sends you to some random city/country you've never been to before. You land there at 8pm and the taxi takes you to a hotel somewhere. You have a meeting first thing tomorrow morning - how far away is the place you're going? Walking distance or will I need to get a taxi? Is there a train line near the hotel?

    I'm feeling a bit hungry, I wonder if there's a convenience store nearby where I can buy a snack. It's 11pm, most things are shut and I'm in a strange city. I could wander around aimlessly until I find something or I could type in "7/11" or whatever on my phone and see all the nearby locations on the map in relation to me.

    Even more importantly: argh - I'm out of cash, and this stupid shop doesn't accept card payments under . Where's the nearest ATM in this bloody city? Previously, a pain in the ass. Now, no problem at all.

    Basically having GPS in my pocket at all times has made my business trips far less stressful!

    1. Re:Business trips by mcrbids · · Score: 2

      Basically having GPS in my pocket at all times has made my business trips far less stressful!

      For me, it's ALL kinds of trips! Even towns I kinda know are more pleasant when I can just get to the nearest bank branch, grocery store, fast food joint, hotel, or whatever. It lets me get the inane stuff out of the way without worry, so I have more time and physical/mental energy to enjoy the experience itself.

      Also, a drive is much more pleasant when I can queue up an impromptu TED talk or stream something I actually like when I'm stuck in country-music-and-spanish-only radio station territory on a long drive.

      And then, when I get a nice shot next to the Bay or under the airplane wing, I can instantly share it with my family and friends. This, too is often a nice way to enjoy the experience even further.

      My Android smart phone/GPS isn't just nice, it's a game-changer.

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  7. Re:It's making us too dependent on technology by Charcharodon · · Score: 2
    Those "street sign" thingies don't exist in an organized fashion in England and other European countries I've visited where the roads and the locals have been their 700+ years before you showed up who really never put much thought in the fact that most of their streets had no signs.

    Often I found myself driving around a village or town lost, unable to find the side street I was looking for only to find it on the way back out of town realizing it was on a wall or house that was only viewable from the street going in one direction.

    GPS elimintated alot of that nonsense.

  8. There ARE places by Psychotria · · Score: 2

    There still are places, believe it or not, in the world where humans have never (or very rarely) trodden. Even in those places where humans have trodden, there are many that are poorly documented, explored, or studied. I don't think that GPS changes us very much at all. The majority of people still stay at home or close to areas that they know. There are people who rely on GPS to tell them where to go, and what streets to follow. Then there are other people, probably a minority, who go where they need to go to find out something interesting, or research something where there probably aren't any streets; in those cases GPS coordinates are merely extra metadata. I, personally, don't care about the people in cities who need a GPS to find a post office or whatever. For those people doing real work, a GPS is merely a more accurate and modern system of identifying (and recording) coordinates of interesting things.

  9. Re:Rogaining by jamesh · · Score: 2

    Doing a bit of rogaining was he best thing I ever did to improve my ability to navigate.

    So how does growing hair help? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogain :}}

    It keeps the head warmer and working at optimum temperature, obviously.

  10. GPS Doesn't Solve Any Problems by rocketPack · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to have to ask someone where the nearest this or that could be found. I used to have to ask how to get from A to B. Local landmarks used to be paramount in navigation and route finding. Now we can haplessly ignore the locals and find our own way straight to the restaurant we chose based on Yelp reviews. Word of mouth is not very useful anymore, at least not in the traditional sense. What I'm getting at, is that smaller cities/towns lose control of their identity. It's the internet that decides which restaurants and hotels are the best, and how to get around town. I'm not trying to commend on whether or not this is better or worse, but it's hard to find one piece of technology which has contributed so much to this trend.

    GPS has removed the need to "memorize" local street patterns or common routes. Why bother to remember how to get to your favorite vacation spot when GPS will "always" be there to guide you? (Again, this is stripping local landmarks of their significance)

    In another sense, GPS (GNSS for those of you modern enough to embrace foreign constellations) has really complicated the idea of "location." The instability of consumer-grade GPSr observations and the steep price curve for more accurate instruments has created a rather cluttered mess. Everyone seems to think that their coordinates are better than the other guy. I'm in the land surveying/geomatics field, and even at that level GPS is rarely brought up in legal disputes because it's just not an acceptable replacement for good old fashioned direct measurements (or acceptable substitutions, like EDMs).

    In my opinion, GPS/GNSS has not solved *any* issues in the civilian world. It has (over)simplified and depersonalized navigation (non GNSS alternatives exist and have worked wonderfully for centuries), created clutter and confusion, and in conjunction with the internet helped to strip local societies of their identity.

  11. Video games had already changed our thinking by javakah · · Score: 2

    A few points:

    Q. How do we discover the 'new'?
    A: We are more likely to discover the new BECAUSE of GPS. Without GPS you are much more likely to stick with major routes to your destination. With our (perhaps over-) confidence in the guidance of GPS, we are more prone to take out of the way routes as suggested by the GPS. This is how we can discover the 'new'. Additionally with confidence in GPS, I know that I am a lot more willing to try to even go to new places that I haven't been before. I can tell you from personal experience that just going with printed Mapquest directions and a map or two does not lead to marital bliss and made me not want to go to new places nearly as much. It's far better going to new places now that we have GPS.

    Q. Is it damaging our navigational ability?
    A: Does the use of a compass also damage our navigational ability? You could argue that the GPS in fact can help our navigational ability by showing us how distorted our own viewpoint can be. You find the same thing though with a compass.

    Q. Is it changing how we think about travel and explorations?
    They point to the need for more multi-tasking skills, etc. This may be a change for Baby Boomers, but I would argue that it's actually moving navigation into sync for the younger generation. We are used to multi-tasking. Additionally, when I first got a GPS, it felt EXTREMELY comfortable. Suspiciously so. Then I realized that it was a real-life mini-map! I was tremendously used to navigating in less familiar (albeit virtual) environs with the help of a minimap, while keeping most of my attention on the new environs, after all, if I didn't pay attention to where I was going in the world before, I could run into some nasty dragon, etc. The younger generation is already thinking about travel and exploration in the way that GPS pushes us, due to video games.

  12. GPS does not equal mapping. by Whatsisname · · Score: 2

    From the summary:

    My own experience is that GPS has made me much more aware of location, by showing me the bird's-eye view, and letting me instantly compare alternate routes.

    You apparently don't know what GPS actually is, because GPS has nothing to do with bird-eye views nor comparing alternate routes. All GPS does is tell you the time and where on the planet you are.

    Routing and mapping are not exclusive to GPS.

  13. My experience on exploration by tanveer1979 · · Score: 2

    I use GPS quite heavily, but most of my usage is moving map apps, which do not try to route for me. They show me a map, where I am, and where I am headed, Its upto me to chose the route and explore.
    Now maybe 5 years ago, when I did not have any GPS, I would have never dared to explore a 200km long salt flat.
    But today, I can leave the main road, drive in the flat laying down my GPS track. If I am unable to find an exit point, all I do is retrace my track.

    I has also helped me explore some high altitude himalayan deserts. No roads are marked, just a black space showing me my "track". By looking at the compass, and having a town on the other end as my "destination" I can plan my route by hit and trial.

    For example, I recently went to a lake system called Kyun Tso in the himalayas.
    As I left the last village, the track bifurcated into multiples. I took the vehicle up the wrong track and ended up on a 4700m high flat plain.
    But no panic, we took some pics, admired the view, and then followed our track back to the fork, and then took the other one.

    So we could actually "explore" without fear of getting lose 5000m above sea level.
    Considering, some locals do this once a week or even less, if you get lost up there, help can be days away.

    But GPS allows you the freedom to be an explorer.

    I quickly have mapped all that on openstreetmap, and future offroaders can follow my tracks easily.

    Then there is the dark side.
    When I am in US, I am tempted to let the navigation app to do my routing, and often I end up on roads I do not want to be on. For example, a freeway 20kms long can be cut short by a 5km path within the town, the app chooses that, and I end up spending 1 hour in traffic jams.
    So yes, its good, and bad.

    Last but not the least, there was a story some time back "Death by GPS".
    This is what you get for blindly trusting your navigation app.

    So best way is to use your GPS as an informer, or a walking stick, not as your crutch.

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  14. As a man... by stretch0611 · · Score: 2

    Thanks to GPS, I truly don't need to ask directions...

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  15. Re:Durr by buchner.johannes · · Score: 2

    We must GPS space!

    If only we had satellites there, then we might be able to triangulate just like on earth!

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  16. I almost don't use it by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 2

    I spent about 15 years in the boy-scout movement, and I learned pretty well how to walk in the world using maps, compass, sun and stars for finding my way to home. Furthermore, it is about 35 years I practice mountain hiking and climbing, often alone, and never got into troubles when I had to find my path. This experience has been fruitful also when it comes to driving: it is quite surprising how easy it is to find your road, when you have the ability to think in terms of cardinal points, notable references and you have in your mind a rough image of the territory you are crossing. So I never use a GPS in my daily activities, but I rescued twice people in the mountains who were into deep troubles, because they had neither map nor compass, but only a GPS with all the waypoints loaded in the memory, and a empty battery.
    However I do have a small GPS tracker, and I use it when I go around in the woods picking up mushrooms and truffles: if you combine your findings with coordinates using geostatistics you get very interesting maps. And no, I am not going to publish them on the web!

  17. No kidding by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On the surface of the Earth, there is no "discovery" if you are talking about finding new lands or something. The whole surface is mapped, with quite a bit of precision. It is all known. The age of discovery, in that sense of the word, is dead.

    Now of course if you want a thrill of personal discovery, you still have that option. You can go exploring any area you like and not use a map, GPS, etc. You can personally enjoy finding out things for yourself, without having looked it up first. You just know that it has in fact been mapped by humans.

    All GPS does is let us know where we are much better than ever before. It is an easy to use tool that makes precise geolocation a reality everywhere except maybe densely forested areas or underground.

  18. I have noticed two types of GPS hiker by Chrisq · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Some hikers keep the GPS in their backpack as a backup, look at the tracks and paths on a map, and as the parent poster says look at the contours and lie of the land. They will probably look at the map once or twice per mile in open country. If they intended to walk along the top edge of a wood, but find they reach it at a path entering the middle, a quick check of the map and on they go - they can join their original track at the other side. Often their GPS will show coordinates only, and will be used in an emergency referencing against a paper map.

    Other hikers have a GPS with a detailed walking map added. They will look at this every few hunderd yards. You will sometimes see them backtrack 20 yards after a fork in a path and take the other one, rather than angling across country to join it. If they expected to walk along the top edge of a wood and reach it at a path entering the middle they would probably bactrack or find a marked path round the edge. Entering woods can bring you into dangerous territory where you lose the signal. If their GPS failed or ran out of charge they would probably be on their mobile calling rescue services. If they didn't get a signal they would not want to head for higher land if it meant leaving the track.

    To me the second type doesn't sound fun and is a liability to themselves and the rescue services.

    1. Re:I have noticed two types of GPS hiker by jonamous++ · · Score: 2

      We get the same thing in aviation. You have the folks that regularly use pilotage (visual landmarks checked against a sectional map) and dead reckoning (course calculation, etc) who have a GPS there just for situational awareness (e.g., ensure that they don't wander into a Class Bravo or Class Charlie airspace without permission).

      Then you have the guys who have no idea what a VOR is for and probably couldn't find where they were using a sectional, and they just use the "Direct To" button on their GPS to get to where they are going.

      Everyone has to learn method 1 to get their ticket, but not everyone keeps current with it and people end up forgetting/being out of pratice/getting lazy and using #2. I would feel very nervous relying entirely on a GPS for aviation navigation.

    2. Re:I have noticed two types of GPS hiker by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      You will sometimes see them backtrack 20 yards after a fork in a path and take the other one, rather than angling across country to join it.

      Uh, wait. That's because that's what courteous people to do avoid creating new paths, because foot paths are damage. Your argument against GPS users is that they are doing what is in many cases required by law? Try another.

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  19. The human brain & mind is quite powerful, flex by Qbertino · · Score: 2

    Was navigating a car from the backseat, back from a night out. It's a town I don't live in and we often use a 'Navi' (german layman term equivalent of 'GPS' in the U.S.). However, the Navi was packed away, since I knew the way from the venue to where we were going. But I was chatting with the lady next to me and we missed a turn. It's been ages since, but I instantly went into 'landmark, neighbourhood and general direction' mode and we got to the destiny with barely any delay. And that was across a river, with another river nearby and on the other side of town.

    I'd say navigating without artificial assistance is a skill like bicycle riding. Once learned you won't forget it. It's a also a lot about taking calculated risks. And I do remember turning pages in huge road atlases, cursing every time about how tedious the task of connecting one double-page to an adjacent is, and thinking up better methods. Alas, back then we did know the concepts, didn't we? But the technology just wasn't there or cheap enough. I figure you could build a decent Navi on my DOS Pocket PC from the early 90ies - only they weren't widespread enough for it to be feasable. Mercedes Benz had only started working on digital roadmaps, smaller flywheel compases and stuff a few years earlyer.

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