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Wikipedia May Censor Images

KiloByte joins the ranks of accepted submitters, writing "To appease 'morality' watchdogs, Wikipedia is contemplating the introduction of a censorship feature, where images would be flagged for containing sexual references, nudity, 'mass graves,' and so on. At least in the initial implementation, it is supposed to be 'opt-in.' However, with such precedents as the UK censoring artistic nudity, Turkey censoring references to the Armenian genocide or China's stance on information about the Tiananmen massacre (note that any sensitive photos, like the Tank Man, are already absent!), I find it quite hard to believe this feature won't be mandatory for some groups of readers — whether it's thanks to an oppressive government, an ISP or a school."

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  1. In principle it's not too bad by Jack+Malmostoso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The way I understand the problem is that some articles show explicit pictures, which may offend some people. Honestly it has happened to me sometimes to see pictures of illnesses or war crimes which did upset me (granted, I have a very low threshold for these things).
    I don't see how it would be bad to hide these pictures by default, with a little button "view" next to the caption.
    Of course, if the goal is to delete these pictures altogether, then I'm all against it.

  2. Opt-in to censor out fair use by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    Letting people opt-in to censor images in Category:All non-free media has been discussed for a while, if I remember correctly.

  3. Oh good, let's have a debate by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Censorship is teh evil!!!

    But it's better to get SOME content than NO content...

    But censorship, it's evil!

    We go through this with Google and China every so often. What I worry about isn't having stuff blocked, with a nice big notice that something was removed, but about having content replaced, so that when you go look at stuff about Chinese unrest from the USA it says "chinese know all about this stuff" and when you look it up from China it says "everything is wonderful".

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    1. Re:Oh good, let's have a debate by mirshafie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Choice is not censorship. As far as I can tell, Wikimedia is considering to add the option for users to block images that have been flagged as potentially offensive. Since Wikipedia covers many aspects of humanity, some of them scary, it makes sense to enable users to filter some of the more graphic aspects of this. Remember, the articles themselves will not be blocked. I think this would make Wikipedia more useful for kids that might not have the tools to deal with looking straight into another person's guts just because their reading up on surgery.

      Many other sites, such as DeviantArt, block nudity by default, and to view it you must register an account and turn the filter off. Even though this is opt-out and a bit extreme, calling the practice censorship is ridiculous.

  4. may? by rbrausse · · Score: 3, Informative

    the referendum was not about "should we add a filter" but "how should a filter implemented".

    the resolution "controversial content" was approved 10:0 in May 2010

    We ask the Executive Director, in consultation with the community, to develop and implement a personal image hiding feature that will enable readers to easily hide images hosted on the projects that they do not wish to view

    The foundation wants a filter, the community has no way to stop such a feature.

  5. Let's not go overboard by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I got the email for the referendum. Let's not say "OMG slippery slope!" quite yet, ok? If this continues to be voluntary, I have absolutely no problem with it. I won't personally turn it on because very little offends me, but if someone else doesn't want to view pictures of genetalia on their respective articles, I can understand that.

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  6. Tank Man photo not censored by China by Sparklepony · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just thought I should point out it's not China that's responsible for the Tank Man photo being missing from the Tienamen Square massacre article. It's good old western copyright law. The Tank Man photo is copyrighted and not freely licensed so Wikipedia can only include it as fair use. Fair use on Wikipedia is held to very strict standards; fair use images can only be used on articles where the image is otherwise indispensible. So you can find it over at Tank Man, which is specifically about the photo.

  7. NSFW by aahpandasrun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wikipedia definitely needs a NSFW or Not Safe for School feature at least, unless it's hidden somewhere. Certain articles like defecation go a little over the top.

    1. Re:NSFW by Kvasio · · Score: 4, Funny

      But this filter should work both ways, so one could choose to see ONLY the NSFW articles :-)

  8. In principle it's very bad by Kvasio · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It may end the "Endless (human anus) image contention" dispute.

    Damn, this was the most entertaining section of wikipedia.
    ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Human_anus#Endless_image_contention )

  9. Not censor, an opt-in filter by ediron2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I took several minutes to read this 2 days ago when I first saw the news (2 days... slashdot, what's happened to you?) and it actually looked damned uncontroversial and careful.

    First, I'd say calling this censorship is a red herring.

    Censorship = removal of information without recourse or alternative.

    Opt-in filtering = giving parents and the squeamish a way to preemptively hide images, with user-controlled overrides.

    The categories sought for filtering is also intended to be peer-managed within wikipedia, which should prevent this from becoming a tool for governmental / corporate / ISP censorship. IOW, if users guide the categorization of data (tagging images as sexually explicit, violent, etc) then a gov/corp/ISP can't 'sneak in' the censorship of an article on Turkey, Israel, Net Neutrality, Codomo, China-vs-Taiwan, China-vs-Tibet, Egyptian unrest or whatever.

    The call for comments generated by Wiki* also discussed their desire to make whatever they do overridable.

    (disclaimer: I think I've edited wiki* a few dozen times, but doubt it was anything censor-worthy).

  10. It's not censorship by iteyoidar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't want to see hi-res photos of Wikipedia editors' genitalia or nasty skin diseases at the top of an article (when an illustration would suffice) for the same reason I don't want to Wikipedia to change over to magenta text on a lime-green background. There's an issue of aesthetics and readability here.

  11. FFS. by McDutchie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cut it out with the reactionary rhetoric already. It's an opt-in filter that allows people who so choose to read about "controversial" subjects without being confronted with graphic images of hardcore blood, gore, pornography, etc. - and there will be categories of filters, so it may even allow Muslims to read about their prophet without having to see depictions of him, without depriving others of access to those images. This seems like a good thing.