Linus Thinks Virtualization Is 'Evil'

Front page first-timer crdotson writes "Linus said in an interview that he thinks virtualization is 'evil' because he prefers to deal with the real hardware. Hardware virtualization allows for better barriers between systems by running multiple OSes on the same hardware, but OS-level virtualization allows similar barriers without a hypervisor between the kernel and the hardware. Should we expect more focus on OS-level virtualization such as Linux-VServer, OpenVZ, and LXC?"

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Re:Some might argue

[h4rr4r]

You forgot to click the Post Anonymously button this time. Nice to see you are again wasting your time trolling me.

Re:Some might argue

[hairyfeet]

Uhhh...dude? 16 bit apps are more than A DECADE AND A HALF old okay? And you can STILL use them with DOSBox trivially. How well does 15 year old Linux apps run? try not at all. BTW I just got done playing some No One Lives Forever, that is 1998 vintage gaming on windows 7 X64. That is 13 YEARS worth of playability.

One thing you can NOT complain about with MSFT is backwards compatibility, hell I'd say more than half of the patches released for Windows 7 so far have been more shims for compatibility to make even more old programs run.

BTW did you know that you too can write shims to improve compatibility? And unlike Linux there is ZERO CLI involved, nor need for scripting? All you need is the Application Compatibility Toolkit and MSFT is even nice enough to provide several Technet videos to walk you through making your own shims. this is how dedicated gamers have gotten games like the Star Wars VS TIE Fighter to run.

So I really don't see how you have ANY leg to stand on when it comes to BC. With Windows you have DOSBox and XP Mode for 16bit, you have incredible support for 32bit in 64bit Windows with NO recompiling bullshit, and they even give you tools that you can use to make your own shims if the ones included don't work for you, and it is all easy peasy beautiful.

No compare that to Linux. Every 6 months? Driver borkage thanks to Linus going Goatse on the kernel, need to run old apps? Well you better have the correct kernel for those old apps or be ready for a recompile friend! And don't say LTS because currently the LTS has less time to EOL than XP does, and I DARE you to try to go from the previous LTS to the latest without having to start over thanks to borkage.

The simple fact is Linus don't give a shit about users, or consumers, the only person Linus gives a shit about is Linus. He still acts like it is 93 and the kernel is his personal science project, free for him to scratch itches wherever and whenever he wants, fuck everybody else. You mark my words less than 6 months after Linus retires Linux WILL have a stable ABI and the constant kernel Goatse bullshit will end. But as long as he is the head of the kernel team he is the worst enemy of his own creation.

Re:Some might argue

[hairyfeet]

So lets see, your response is...suckup suckup suckup, bullshit bullshit bullshit and finally "Fight teh powerz!" am I right? Sum it up?

I don't give a shit if in 1979 he invented the fucking takeout pizza okay? WTF does what he did in the past matter now? does that give him a "be a douchebag free" card? I guess it does as far as you're concerned.

And what are you fucking smoking? What corp in their right mind would be running 16 bit apps nearly 15 YEARS after support ended? Security hole much? hell why not just put some Win98 machines on the network while you're at it. Anybody who actually needs code THAT old has these wonderful things called "VMs" maybe you've heard of them? because nobody in their right mind is gonna let a gaping security hole like 16 bit crapola run on a modern desktop. Oh and how does that 16bit code run on 64bit Linux? Oh that's right IT DON'T.

And I'm about as jealous of Linus dumbass Torvalds as I am of any other cult figure, that is NOT AT ALL. If anything all I feel is pity, pity that otherwise sane people (I assume you're sane, can't tell by your post) would bend over backwards to kiss his ass and take the big steaming turds he hands you and say "Please sir, can I sniff your asshole?". FACT-It has been TWENTY YEARS and Linux is NO FURTHER on the desktop than when it started 20 YEARS AGO. FACT- OSX, BSD, Windows, hell even OS/2 have an ABI and guess what? the DRIVERS WORK which is more than can be said for Linux. But why am I wasting my breath, maybe you'd enjoy some nice copypasta where I point out what a TOTAL FAILURE LINUX IS? As for why it pisses me off, it pisses me off because it COULD be good, if it weren't for assholes like Torvalds and suckups like you. Enjoy

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandw