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A Custom Objectionable Word List Ate My Homework

theodp writes "Among the first three schools using Chromebooks for Education is the Merton Community School District, which decided to go Chromebook after the Wisconsin Dept. of Public Instruction (WDPI) issued a news release (created using PDFMaker for Word) announcing that all Wisconsin schools can have access to Google Apps for Education by simply downloading a Google Consent Form (Microsoft Word format, oddly) from the WDPI website, completing & signing it, and submitting it to Google. And to help get the schools going, a separate Wisconsin Google Apps for Education website aims to jumpstart things with weekly webinars, the first of which — Getting started with the Google Apps for Education Control Panel — shows school officials how they can sandbox 'Naughty Students' and filter objectionable content. While Google illustrates how a list of 'custom objectionable words' can be used to flag and/or block students' e-mail with some cute examples — different spellings of 'booger' and a regex to block variants like 'b00g3r' — things get considerably nastier in the real world, as this NSFW custom objectionable word list used by the North Canton City Schools shows."

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  1. What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can someone cut the extraneous crap and useless hyperlinks of this story and also re-edit so this is actually readable? I have no idea what the story is here.

    1. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by The+Snowman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have no idea what the story is here.

      Schools are censoring students using Google Docs. If you click the last link and log in to your Google account, you will see the list of words:

      anal [...etc etc...] whore

      I can understand the school's desire to maintain a certain level of maturity, but this needs to be the job of the parents and teachers, not the technology. As a father of two boys, I want them to have the opportunity to act stupid, so I can correct them and tell them what is and is not appropriate. I don't want a computer enforcing that for me.

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    2. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by Thiez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Odd that a school would block words like penis and vagina, it seems to me those words would prove quite useful for biology lessons.

      Perhaps the students should just start communicating in Spanish.

    3. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by Muros · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can understand the school's desire to maintain a certain level of maturity, but this needs to be the job of the parents and teachers, not the technology. As a father of two boys, I want them to have the opportunity to act stupid, so I can correct them and tell them what is and is not appropriate. I don't want a computer enforcing that for me.

      I am of the opinion that such censorship maintains immaturity. Everyone curses. Learning where it is appropriate and where it is not is a part of growing up, and school children should be able to figure out for themselves where it fits. Certainly I would expect to see many of those words appear in any kind of creative writing homework.

    4. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by BetaDays · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with you. When people are not allowed to cuss to words that other people find objectionable they start making up words. Just look at how "Frack" is so nicely used now since a TV show started using that instead of what we know it to mean. Also I remember how this one person kept saying "oh Fudge" when they made a mistake. So I think having these Lists only cause more fragmentation of the language in the long run since people will always make up words to get around the "word police".

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    5. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by NatasRevol · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or use fun words - cock is a male rooster, pussy is a cat, bitch is a female dog, ass is a donkey. Make sure to work them into your essays thoroughly AND appropriately.

      As I walked through the farmyard, the pussy kept rubbing up against my legs, looking for a treat. I finally came to the chicken coop and saw a very large cock on top of the house. Later, I put on my leathers and got my bitch to round up my ass so I could go for a ride.

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    6. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "screw" is on there too.

      As are serious words like "rape"

      Sexuality themed words are in there. pube, vagina, homo, anus, dildo, orgasm, clitoris. It sounds like some unimaginative school board operator just did a mind dump of every word he or she could think of. Some therapist should have a chat with them.

    7. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Steven Fry once said (in Paperweight I think) that if we really wanted to stop people using "swear words" we should just use the words for their intended meaning instead of trying to cover our embaressment by using ridiculous flowery language. Eg. just say fuck instead of "making love", say shit instead of "going to the bathroom", etc. The words only have power because we avoid using them.

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    8. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by blue_teeth · · Score: 5, Funny

      Heh, reminds me of a joke:

      A Bus stops and two men get on. They sit down and engage in an animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them ignores them at first, but her attention is galvanized when she hears one of the men say the following:

      Emma come first, then I come.
      Then two asses come togeder.
      I come once-a-mora.
      Two asses, they come togeder again.
      I come again and pee twice.
      Then I come one lasta time.

      "You foul mouthed swine" says the lady, "in this country we don't talk about our sex lives in public!"
      "Hey, coola down lady" said the man "I'm a justa tellin' my friend how to spella 'Mississippi' "

    9. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by BrokenHalo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I object to here is that the reader is required to log in to a Google account in order to read the list in question. For a summary, that is just plain damn stupid.

      However, some of these words should cause all sorts of innocent amusement. For instance, the word "ejaculated" will not be unfamiliar to readers of Enid Blyton, just as the word "bastard" would be equally recognisable to anyone who has studied the lineage of various royal families.

    10. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

      Some therapist should have a chat with them.

      Hehhh. Hehhhh. You said "the rapist".


      Luckily, I see "fucktard" isn't on the list, so we can still accurately describe the list's author.

    11. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      However, some of these words should cause all sorts of innocent amusement. For instance, the word "ejaculated" will not be unfamiliar to readers of Enid Blyton, just as the word "bastard" would be equally recognisable to anyone who has studied the lineage of various royal families.

      "Ejaculated" as a synonym for "said" has pretty much left the language except for historical use and in bad-writing-contest entries.

      It's hard to see how they can censor "Dick," on the other hand. Some students just can't put their name on homework?

      And several of these words have other uses-- "dike" and "cock," for example. (So, in the New Testament, Peter denies Jesus before a bird-that-can't-be-named crows twice?)

      Hope none of the students write about Dick van Dyke!

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  2. Re:Is this the "American Freedom"? by Ashriel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh, "freedom" is just a marketing slogan here in the U.S. It gets us lots of immigrants that will work for less pay and fewer benefits. The illegal ones are especially beneficial, since they'll work for next to nothing with no benefits.

    When politicians use the word, they mean economic freedom - e.g., the right to screw other people out of their money.

  3. Sorry, looks like a reasonable list to me. by dpbsmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This doesn't look like a case of censoring the Venus de Milo, or blocking email from someone named Scunthorpe, or anything like that. Nor are there obvious political or religious overtones.

    Context matters--what happens to a student who actually uses a "bad" word in an innocent context--"It was a bitch and she had the purtiest coat. I said to the feller owned her, ' When she finds pups,' says I, 'I'd like one.'"--Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings, "The Yearling." Or someone who quotes the F-word passage from "The Catcher in the Rye." Or someone who just barely crosses the line in, let's say, a creative writing piece that too-accurately reports the colloquial language of her peers. The actions the school takes matter. But the list itself, as a trigger for action, seems pretty sensible.

    One could easily write an essay on eroticism in Walt Whitman ("I sing the body electric,") or Shakespeare playing to the groundlings ("Spake ye of country matters?"), without violating the list.

    This list doesn't look like ludicrous overreaching to me. I enjoyed my giggles from reading it as much as anyone else, and am amused by its being available in an open Google Docs document. But it doesn't reflect poorly on North Canton schools.

    Any high school student who uses these words in a piece of schoolwork is either committed a mistake--a mistake that could potentially cost them a job if their adult life--or they're engaged in a breaching experiment. Either way, it is perfectly appropriate for the school to take some kind of action.

  4. Sorry, looks like an unreasonable list to me. by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any high school student who uses these words in a piece of schoolwork is either committed a mistake

    Oh yeah? How about an essay that contains something like this:

    Although it is less relevant in the modern world, the Bible does contain a prohibition on beastiality (sic, the list doesn't spell this word correctly), which indicates that such practices were known among ancient near-east cultures...

    Yeah, it is really a stretch to think that a student would use one of the words on the list in their schoolwork. Many of the words on that list could easily be used in an academic context even at the high school level. A student might be talking about dog breeding and use the word "bitch" appropriately, or might write a report about the history of the gay rights movement which contains various slang words.

    The actions the school takes matter. But the list itself, as a trigger for action, seems pretty sensible.

    It is sensible if your goal is to condition students to believe that censorship is normal and that if you are going to discuss certain topics it must be under the supervision of an authority figure. What do you think reaches students at a deeper level: a class about the US government which happens to cover the bill of rights, or a censorship system that the students must submit to every day? How much respect for freedom of speech do you think these students will have, after spending years dealing with this sort of censorship?

    On the one hand, we criticize the Chinese for doing these sorts of things, we criticize Cisco for providing the necessary equipment, and we encourage people to run proxies and Tor exits. On the other hand, we engage in exactly the same behavior when it comes to our schools and students, we use the same equipment, the same sort of policies, and we discourage students from circumventing the censorship apparatus. What are teachers supposed to say when they teach about current events?

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  5. I am the author of the spreadsheet in question by nccstech · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hey everyone, I am the author of the "bad word" spreadsheet being discussed. I got an email from a slashdot users letting me know about the discussion, so I wanted to share what I can from my perspective on this topic. As usual, there is always a lot more to the story than you will get from just looking at one piece of information (the spreadsheet) and hopefully I can help explain that. You certainly may not agree with what our school is doing (that is fine) but I at least want to make sure you have the full story. Note: In posting this I am not speaking officially for my school district, but am simply trying to explain the situation from my personal perspective. First, it is important to realize that the spreadsheet you see is a work in progress. Up until January 2011 our students did not have school-issued email accounts. This is still a brand new venture for us, and we have been and will continue to modify our policies. I really appreciate the feedback many of you have provided. You have lots of good points that I believe will help us as we continue to develop this. So, first question... how did we come up with this list? We wanted to give students email accounts to help increase communication and collaboration. However, this was something new for our district so we had to be careful when rolling it out. We developed the student email guidelines through meeting, surveys, and discussions with teachers, administrators, guidance counselors, students, parents, community members, and our board of education. The list of what resulted. For the launch of our email system the consensus was to have some sort of word filter, and to keep email sending with out district. Over time I hope we can open up email so students can send outside of our domain as there are obvious benefits for them to be able to communicate with people in businesses and other schools around the world. However, we felt it was best to start out more restrictive, and the work toward more openness over time. Change in a public school system is like steering a large ship with a little rudder. It takes time. There are a lot of people involved and we need to help people along with these changes. Anyway, we made the actual list of "bad words" by working off several other lists provided to us from other schools and organizations that have been doing this themselves for years. We combined their lists and edited it down to what you see. We removed loads of words that did not seem reasonable to filter (you would be amazed at what was on the original lists). We continue to revise the list (again we have only had this for about 8 months) and will certainly run through the suggestion many of the posts here have brought up. Yes, we realize that a filter list is not going to stop inappropriate words. Students can use all sorts of variations. However as a school providing email to children, the consensus of our community to to provide some level of filtering. More than that though, we have added the topic of responsible use of technology to our curriculum so we can help our children work through this topic. Again, thanks for your feedback, and feel free to ask me additional questions. Eric

    1. Re:I am the author of the spreadsheet in question by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Informative

      you would be amazed at what was on the original lists

      I am amazed at what remained on your list. What were you thinking? Not only did you block large numbers of works used in a typical biology textbook, you even managed to block words that would be relevant to bible discussions.

      However as a school providing email to children, the consensus of our community to to provide some level of filtering.

      So you are training your children to accept censorship and to run to authority figures whenever they need to discuss certain topics? If your school district were in a country like China or Myanmar, this policy might make sense.

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    2. Re:I am the author of the spreadsheet in question by IICV · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If that's what you're worried about, then you would be far better off having some method by which students can report e-mails that they receive as being threatening or harassing.

      Your current system is, in itself, threatening and/or harassing, without providing any benefit at all. The bullies will quickly figure out which words are on your concern list, and stop using those words - while the students who are merely talking to each other about personal issues will have their conversations snooped on by the school administration.

      I mean, who do you really think is going to be caught by this concern filter? Albert, a perfectly normal gay student who is just sending his best friend an e-mail about being afraid of telling his parents that he's gay, or Billy the bully, whose goal is to not come to the attention of the school administration, and thus probably has some sort of knowledge about the concern filter and will use words like "ghey" or "ponce" or some school slang you've never even heard in his email?

      And that doesn't even consider the fact that there's a plethora of free e-mail providers out there! After a couple of run-ins with the law, Billy the bully's not even going to be sending his evil e-mails from his school account; he'll be logged in to a free Hotmail or Gmail account he set up at the local library. Sure, your system might report these incoming concerning e-mails, but what are you going to do about it? They're pretty much untraceable without a court order.

      Basically, your school is wasting their time and money for what amounts to a false sense of security.

    3. Re:I am the author of the spreadsheet in question by SPrintF · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Um. Dude. Paragraphs.

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