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A Custom Objectionable Word List Ate My Homework

theodp writes "Among the first three schools using Chromebooks for Education is the Merton Community School District, which decided to go Chromebook after the Wisconsin Dept. of Public Instruction (WDPI) issued a news release (created using PDFMaker for Word) announcing that all Wisconsin schools can have access to Google Apps for Education by simply downloading a Google Consent Form (Microsoft Word format, oddly) from the WDPI website, completing & signing it, and submitting it to Google. And to help get the schools going, a separate Wisconsin Google Apps for Education website aims to jumpstart things with weekly webinars, the first of which — Getting started with the Google Apps for Education Control Panel — shows school officials how they can sandbox 'Naughty Students' and filter objectionable content. While Google illustrates how a list of 'custom objectionable words' can be used to flag and/or block students' e-mail with some cute examples — different spellings of 'booger' and a regex to block variants like 'b00g3r' — things get considerably nastier in the real world, as this NSFW custom objectionable word list used by the North Canton City Schools shows."

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  1. What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can someone cut the extraneous crap and useless hyperlinks of this story and also re-edit so this is actually readable? I have no idea what the story is here.

    1. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by The+Snowman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have no idea what the story is here.

      Schools are censoring students using Google Docs. If you click the last link and log in to your Google account, you will see the list of words:

      anal [...etc etc...] whore

      I can understand the school's desire to maintain a certain level of maturity, but this needs to be the job of the parents and teachers, not the technology. As a father of two boys, I want them to have the opportunity to act stupid, so I can correct them and tell them what is and is not appropriate. I don't want a computer enforcing that for me.

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    2. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by Thiez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Odd that a school would block words like penis and vagina, it seems to me those words would prove quite useful for biology lessons.

      Perhaps the students should just start communicating in Spanish.

    3. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by BetaDays · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with you. When people are not allowed to cuss to words that other people find objectionable they start making up words. Just look at how "Frack" is so nicely used now since a TV show started using that instead of what we know it to mean. Also I remember how this one person kept saying "oh Fudge" when they made a mistake. So I think having these Lists only cause more fragmentation of the language in the long run since people will always make up words to get around the "word police".

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    4. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by NatasRevol · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or use fun words - cock is a male rooster, pussy is a cat, bitch is a female dog, ass is a donkey. Make sure to work them into your essays thoroughly AND appropriately.

      As I walked through the farmyard, the pussy kept rubbing up against my legs, looking for a treat. I finally came to the chicken coop and saw a very large cock on top of the house. Later, I put on my leathers and got my bitch to round up my ass so I could go for a ride.

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    5. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "screw" is on there too.

      As are serious words like "rape"

      Sexuality themed words are in there. pube, vagina, homo, anus, dildo, orgasm, clitoris. It sounds like some unimaginative school board operator just did a mind dump of every word he or she could think of. Some therapist should have a chat with them.

    6. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Steven Fry once said (in Paperweight I think) that if we really wanted to stop people using "swear words" we should just use the words for their intended meaning instead of trying to cover our embaressment by using ridiculous flowery language. Eg. just say fuck instead of "making love", say shit instead of "going to the bathroom", etc. The words only have power because we avoid using them.

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    7. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by blue_teeth · · Score: 5, Funny

      Heh, reminds me of a joke:

      A Bus stops and two men get on. They sit down and engage in an animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them ignores them at first, but her attention is galvanized when she hears one of the men say the following:

      Emma come first, then I come.
      Then two asses come togeder.
      I come once-a-mora.
      Two asses, they come togeder again.
      I come again and pee twice.
      Then I come one lasta time.

      "You foul mouthed swine" says the lady, "in this country we don't talk about our sex lives in public!"
      "Hey, coola down lady" said the man "I'm a justa tellin' my friend how to spella 'Mississippi' "

    8. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by BrokenHalo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I object to here is that the reader is required to log in to a Google account in order to read the list in question. For a summary, that is just plain damn stupid.

      However, some of these words should cause all sorts of innocent amusement. For instance, the word "ejaculated" will not be unfamiliar to readers of Enid Blyton, just as the word "bastard" would be equally recognisable to anyone who has studied the lineage of various royal families.

    9. Re:What an Unreadable and Horrible Summary by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

      Some therapist should have a chat with them.

      Hehhh. Hehhhh. You said "the rapist".


      Luckily, I see "fucktard" isn't on the list, so we can still accurately describe the list's author.

  2. Sorry, looks like an unreasonable list to me. by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any high school student who uses these words in a piece of schoolwork is either committed a mistake

    Oh yeah? How about an essay that contains something like this:

    Although it is less relevant in the modern world, the Bible does contain a prohibition on beastiality (sic, the list doesn't spell this word correctly), which indicates that such practices were known among ancient near-east cultures...

    Yeah, it is really a stretch to think that a student would use one of the words on the list in their schoolwork. Many of the words on that list could easily be used in an academic context even at the high school level. A student might be talking about dog breeding and use the word "bitch" appropriately, or might write a report about the history of the gay rights movement which contains various slang words.

    The actions the school takes matter. But the list itself, as a trigger for action, seems pretty sensible.

    It is sensible if your goal is to condition students to believe that censorship is normal and that if you are going to discuss certain topics it must be under the supervision of an authority figure. What do you think reaches students at a deeper level: a class about the US government which happens to cover the bill of rights, or a censorship system that the students must submit to every day? How much respect for freedom of speech do you think these students will have, after spending years dealing with this sort of censorship?

    On the one hand, we criticize the Chinese for doing these sorts of things, we criticize Cisco for providing the necessary equipment, and we encourage people to run proxies and Tor exits. On the other hand, we engage in exactly the same behavior when it comes to our schools and students, we use the same equipment, the same sort of policies, and we discourage students from circumventing the censorship apparatus. What are teachers supposed to say when they teach about current events?

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  3. Re:I am the author of the spreadsheet in question by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Informative

    you would be amazed at what was on the original lists

    I am amazed at what remained on your list. What were you thinking? Not only did you block large numbers of works used in a typical biology textbook, you even managed to block words that would be relevant to bible discussions.

    However as a school providing email to children, the consensus of our community to to provide some level of filtering.

    So you are training your children to accept censorship and to run to authority figures whenever they need to discuss certain topics? If your school district were in a country like China or Myanmar, this policy might make sense.

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  4. Re:I am the author of the spreadsheet in question by IICV · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If that's what you're worried about, then you would be far better off having some method by which students can report e-mails that they receive as being threatening or harassing.

    Your current system is, in itself, threatening and/or harassing, without providing any benefit at all. The bullies will quickly figure out which words are on your concern list, and stop using those words - while the students who are merely talking to each other about personal issues will have their conversations snooped on by the school administration.

    I mean, who do you really think is going to be caught by this concern filter? Albert, a perfectly normal gay student who is just sending his best friend an e-mail about being afraid of telling his parents that he's gay, or Billy the bully, whose goal is to not come to the attention of the school administration, and thus probably has some sort of knowledge about the concern filter and will use words like "ghey" or "ponce" or some school slang you've never even heard in his email?

    And that doesn't even consider the fact that there's a plethora of free e-mail providers out there! After a couple of run-ins with the law, Billy the bully's not even going to be sending his evil e-mails from his school account; he'll be logged in to a free Hotmail or Gmail account he set up at the local library. Sure, your system might report these incoming concerning e-mails, but what are you going to do about it? They're pretty much untraceable without a court order.

    Basically, your school is wasting their time and money for what amounts to a false sense of security.