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The Pirate Bay Founders Go Legit With BayFiles

An anonymous reader writes "The founders of The Pirate Bay, possibly the best-known BitTorrent tracking service in existence, are going legit with a new file-sharing site which they claim will adhere to all copyright rules and takedown requests. BayFiles, as the new service is named, isn't BitTorrent powered. Instead, the site borrows its method of operation from the likes of Megaupload and RapidShare: a user selects a file and uploads it to the site via their web browser, after which it becomes available for anyone to download, assuming they have the link."

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  1. Adhere to takedown requests by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, basically, if the copyright holder complains, the file will be removed. But, if Rapidshare et al. are any instance, it'll promptly be reuploaded under a different name. Encrypted and password locked so the RIAA won't know it's there unless they manually go out and search all the sites linking to it. Or, in other words, it's just as "legitimate" (I honestly think it is legitimate) as TPB is, just with better ass-coverage, more work required on the part of the copyright cartels, and less chance of downloaders being traced. Perfectly legally, of course.

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  2. Totally Legit, Easily Abused by eldavojohn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Here's what I got from the article. It's registered in South America from Hong Kong company. Once you upload a file, you get a link but there is no way to search across uploaded files. So basically you can share that link out with only your close friends and no one else could possibly know about it and there was no mention of Bayfiles inspecting or fingerprinting these files actively -- only when issued a DMCA from a copyright holder.

    I'm guessing their DMCA officers just wait for requests and then investigate the files and then delete them. Are there even any negative repercussions for the offending uploader? If so, just do it anonymously.

    Sure, it's not possible for everybody to come and get whatever they want but it's quite simple for me to upload a few albums and sent the links over to my friends to get a zip download.

    How is the RIAA (or anybody else) supposed to find files on here that violate their copyright? Sure, you can't post your link in a forum that will be found via Google but for close knit meshes of sharers, this is a dream come true (just like Usenet or even the Dropbox accounts my friends share).

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    1. Re:Totally Legit, Easily Abused by Artifakt · · Score: 2

      OK, I'm picturing Keanu Reeves saying "Moles. Lots of Moles." and then all these shelves full of blind burrowing rodents come flying past. You did that - hope you're happy now.

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    2. Re:Totally Legit, Easily Abused by dada21 · · Score: 2

      I run a print shop and we constantly need to snag installers for old software that is no longer supported by the manufacturers. One example RIP program that we use (and paid over $5000 for, mind you) no longer works with the dongle key that came with it.

      So we traveled over to the dark side of the software world and snagged a great cracked copy. Works wonders. A year later our install was corrupted and we lost the installer, so I went back and downloaded it again (thanks, MegaUpload!). No issues.

      Today, we lost our install again, went back to the forum to grab the link and MegaUpload had nuked it because the copyright owner asked to remove it. Thankfully I found a USB key from a year ago with the installer and we're back in service -- "pirating" software I've already paid $5000 for plus around $3000 for all the annual support subscriptions. The copyright owner, who has little reason to actively attack this old software, still spends time trolling the bootleg forums to specifically find these links.

      And that's how it will continue to be -- companies with high cost software definitely troll the many bootleg forums to report to the content sharing hosts and have the ISOs removed. This said software is probably 10 years old (older?), and is sub-par compared to all the modern apps available. Yeah, I should probably get a new license and upgrade, but we're using it on a 12 year old printer that we run maybe twice a month, and it works just fine with the old software I paid for and want to run.

      Hopefully, TPB does a better job at UX/UI versus MegaUpload and RapidShare, who have some of the most annoying interfaces imaginable.

    3. Re:Totally Legit, Easily Abused by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your fourth paragraph explains: If people can keep on using the old software via pirate source, and it does what they need, why would they pay for upgrades? In many cases, a software companies greatest competitor is themselves from five years ago.

  3. Re:Hey, worked for Napster by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Nap... whatnow?

    Face it, no filesharing service survives "going legit".

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  4. Re:Huh... by TarMil · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nah, that's the protocol. The method is GET.

  5. No torrent, no download by Taibhsear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Which no one will use.

    People (legitimate uploads at least) put their files on Pirate Bay because it offloads the server work and increases their customer base. Almost like free advertising for their software. You go to TPB, see what files are popular and download them. You might download software you could never have heard of since you have no other contact with that company. Can't go download something from a website you never heard of. And since it was torrents, popular files you could get in no time vs going to the company's main website for a direct download which could take way longer if they didn't invest in their servers/connections. Going rapidshare style almost blows the whole point of going to TPB.

  6. Re:So same thing really by lm2s · · Score: 2

    Just that instead of torrents they use filesharing. I wonder why. Would have been interesting to have a torrent site which lets you share your own files without any problems.

    Why? Because with BayFiles they will make money off the files being shared. Simple. But of course that is not their true intent. Truly they just believe there is the need of, yet, another file sharing service, because the hundreds that exist just aren't good enough :)

  7. Re:So same thing really by fbjon · · Score: 2

    I'd say most of those hundreds really aren't good enough.

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  8. Re:So same thing really by Haedrian · · Score: 2

    Never used it for my uploads. Is it as simple as uploading the file and getting a link to share with your buddies?

    For a start you'd probably have to seed it, so not really the same thing.

  9. Re:Hey, worked for Napster by isorox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nap... whatnow?

    Face it, no filesharing service survives "going legit".

    Napster was that company founded by Justin Timberlake

  10. Re:So same thing really by hldn · · Score: 2

    so really, you don't want a torrent site at all..

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  11. BayFiles by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then I shall have to make a webcrawler for it, and I shall have to call it BayWatch. Surely that name is available?

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  12. Re:Hey, worked for Napster by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

    I remember, from when the relaunched Napster legal-download site was closed down. Taking with it the DRM licence servers, and thus destroying the music collections of all those who had purchased music from the service. I remember, because that was when I felt the feeling of smug 'I told you this would happen' satisfaction.

  13. Why not Amazon S3 ? by DalDei · · Score: 2

    What purpose does this serve that Amazon S3 doesnt ? Is it the "free" part or is there a category/search/index to help find your "legitimate" files ? Amazon S3 even supports torrents. No takedowns required. Push files, make them public. Sit back. Oh you pay some $ ... but very little.

  14. Re:So same thing really by spazdor · · Score: 2

    Cosigned. If I have to twiddle thumbs at another jinkety-ass homescript "countdown before I'll give you your download link" page I'm going to gore myself to death with a Jolt can.

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