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Google To Shut Down 10 Products

Google announced yesterday that it is closing a number of its current products and merging others into similar services. Many of them will continue to be available in the near future to facilitate the transition. The list of affected services includes Aardvark, Desktop, Fast Flip, Maps API for Flash, Google Pack, Google Web Security, Image Labeler, Notebook, Sidewiki, and Subscriber Links. Google's Alan Eustace wrote. "This will make things much simpler for our users, improving the overall Google experience. It will also mean we can devote more resources to high impact products—the ones that improve the lives of billions of people. All the Googlers working on these projects will be moved over to higher-impact products. As for our users, we’ll communicate directly with them as we make these changes, giving sufficient time to make the transition and enabling them to take their data with them." The link contains brief descriptions of how each service is getting phased out.

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  1. Google is now officially mature company by ge7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The recent developments within Google and their moving to identity servi.. social networking with demands for ID scans if someone reports you for "fake" name, and other general evil stuff just shows Google has matured as a company and is now just like everyone else. It's not a recent development either, it has been going on for several years, but now everyone else is starting to notice it too. They cut down the amount of geeky stuff like work-on-your-own-projects, they go aggressively into markets and they use every evil marketing tactic in the book.

    That is fine. Every company is like that. But slashdotters should stop giving them free passes because they're "google".

    1. Re:Google is now officially mature company by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some experiments succeed, some experiments fail. Google tries a lot more of these types of things than anyone else. Hopefully those who use these services will find something else to meet their needs.

    2. Re:Google is now officially mature company by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

      Note that it isn't necessarily a case of failure either.

      I was surprised to see Google Desktop go away - but it does make sense. Vista+ and Mac both have desktop widgets, and XP+ have a desktop search utility from Microsoft already. I suspect the same applies to Macs. Not to mention that Google sees 'the cloud' as a major strategy, and searching 'the cloud' is more important than a user's desktop.

      So while perhaps Google's offering may have been preferable, there's plenty of alternatives and little incentive for Google to continue its development.

      In fact, the only one that I used and failed, is Sidewiki. Unfortunately, the first result for 'Sidewiki alternatives' yields a piece of SEO scum.

      The idea was sound, but I guess not very liked by webmasters, prone to dickwaddery, and difficult to turn into money.

    3. Re:Google is now officially mature company by bonch · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Microsoft used to get mocked for its constant stream of pointless experiments and go-nowhere products. It seems to be what companies do when they're too big and don't know what to focus on.

    4. Re:Google is now officially mature company by Riceballsan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well the difference here is many of these projects produced some functionality that can be merged into other google products. Just because the projects themselves didn't take off on their own, does not mean they were go-nowhere projects.

    5. Re:Google is now officially mature company by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But slashdotters should stop giving them free passes because they're "google".

      Said it before and I'll say it again- the idea that most Slashdotters are uncritically in love with Google is out of date. It's undeniably true that up until around the mid-2000s there was a borderline fanboyish attitude of indulgence towards Google. However, that's changed quite noticeably in the past five or so years. While it may be argued that Google still gets cut more slack than they deserve, the era of "Google can do no wrong" being representative of most Slashdotters is now over.

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    6. Re:Google is now officially mature company by igreaterthanu · · Score: 2

      At first I was surprised that Google Desktop was going away too, but then I remembered that the cloud is the future and nobody has any need for a desktop anymore.

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  2. never bet on one horse by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Shutdown like this remind that it is never good to rely on one service or company. From all the services closed, I liked Google desktop quite a bit on my linux box a couple of years ago. It could slow down the machine too much at some points and it had also not been clear to me how much and I fell back to rely on good old unix tools or beagle.

  3. "Software as a Service" fails yet again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These are 10 more prime examples of the "Software as a Service" concept failing us yet again.

    It makes no sense for any individual or company to use such "services". It's just too damn risky. The only safe and sensible approach is to insist on real software that you can run on your own systems.

    I have clients who still run software originally developed for DOS, back in the 1980s. Even if they don't have the source code, they can run it just fine on much newer hardware, and they don't have to worry about some other company going under or canceling the product and it then being unavailable to them.

    While it's relatively frequent to see normal software being used for decades after it was initially written, it's extremely rare to see any sort of "Software as a Service" lasting even more than a couple of years.

  4. WOW by Jello+B. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Holy shit they're shutting down products I've never heard of and nobody uses. That's fuckin evil.

  5. Re:Oh fuck off. by ccguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All i can say is it is good that i didnt rely on any of those services. This tells me not to rely on google for any services.

    Well, I guess it's google who would tell you to fuck off them. They offer a number of services, some of them are here to stay, and other are experiments (not necessarily tech experiments, they can be business experiments, too) and if they don't go well, they go off the market - same as every other product.
    Anyway, feel free to ask google for a full refund on whatever you spent on those services.

  6. Not surprising by mkraft · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretty much all of those services haven't been updated in ages or aren't even used. For example I used to use Google Desktop, but uninstalled it about 2 years ago because it was buggy, performance hogging and slowed down my machine.

  7. Re:Oh fuck off. by ccguy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Damn right. Single vendor lockin is never a good idea if avoidable.

    It IS avoidable. You can export all your Google stored stuff (pictures, emails, whatever). It's called Google take out.

    http://www.dataliberation.org/

    Of course most people are lazy and won't do it, then complain if something is lost.

  8. Time for everyone to ... by MacTO · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Give me a break.

    Google is a business. They are out to make money. The fact that they have to axe a few products that you probably aren't using (never mind paying for, since a few of those things were freebies) does not mean that they've decided to follow the path of evil. It just means that they have good business sense.

  9. Re:Google Chrome Machine Install? by brianez21 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you need to set up Chrome in a corporate environment, then you can use the .MSI installer for Chrome ("Chrome for Business"), which is available to download here.

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  10. Re:Oh fuck off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's the corporations, man! They're, like, out to screw the consumer! Boycott the corporations!

    *I don't get the irony of wearing a Che Guevara shirt bought from the gap*

    -Sent from my iPad, from inside a Starbucks.

  11. What next? by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative

    One wonders what Google will kill next. Likely targets are products which lose money, don't provide opportunities for ad insertion, and don't collect monetizable information about users. Take a look at Google's list of products (which, amusingly, doesn't contain "G+"). Google Docs and Spreadsheets, Picnik (Google's photo editor), Google Voice, Google Talk, and SketchUp may be next.

    Google Health has already been killed. Google has stopped digitizing old newspapers. Knol (Google's answer to Wikipedia) was never very successful. Those are likely targets, too.

    Google is no longer worried about Microsoft, which has failed to compete successfully in online services. Google is worried about Facebook and Apple. So all those Google products which targeted Microsoft's business model, but lost money, can be dumped.

    1. Re:What next? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      Picnic will probably go - hasn't gained a whole lot of traction. Sketch will probably stay, if for no other reason than the pro edition has some following among folks who don't need to go whole hog and invest in Autocad (god rot their evil souls, but I digress). The file format is becoming a defacto standard. It's well integrated into Google Earth and Maps and allows them to crowdsource value into both of those products.

      The rest I've never used. I am annoyed that Google Powermeter left - that was a neat product albeit with likely no hope of becoming big enough to matter. Google Health was just an ill advised attempt to chase Microsoft's ill advised attempt to do something in the healthcare arena. Not many people want to key in their medical data. Those that do have already figured out that word processors are useful tools. Dumping raw healthcare provider data into a consumer product was bound to fail - it's way too messy and if you figured out how to do it you would spin the program off and sell it for a small fortune to the health care industry itself.

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  12. Re:Awww by johnny+cashed · · Score: 2

    I won't miss it. I hated the way it interfaced. I'd see something interesting on the google news page within fast flip. I'd click on the article in fast flip to read it. Instead, it opened up into fast flip. I then had to click on the article a second time to read it. Annoying. Granted, maybe if you used fast flip to browse through news, one might like it. I was annoyed at the way it functioned from the google news page, enough so that I removed the whole sidebar. There were other problems I had with the sidebar so it wasn't the only reason for the removal, but fast flip wasn't missed by this user.

  13. Re:Oh fuck off. by jmorris42 · · Score: 2

    Exactly right. If you are going to launch a lot of experimental products you have to be willing to put em down almost as fast when they don't succeed lest you get so many going you can't keep launching new ones and get stuck maintaining a bunch of losers forever out of fear that the few people who did like them will scream loudly on Internet fora. For years everyone made jokes about the beta label Google put on everything, well now ya know.

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  14. To: Google by AllenNg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, I suppose all that talk about our notebooks being safe and always available and respecting the time and work we'd invested in their use was just a lie? This, combined with Chrome's increasingly "We're Google--we can do whatever we want" functionality, is edging me closer to abandoning Google completely. I, years ago, was initially hesitant to begin using Google's products. Really, the tipping point was that there weren't many alternatives to the services that Google was providing. THAT IS NO LONGER TRUE, GOOGLE! You would do well to remember that!

  15. Google pack :( by mystik · · Score: 2

    Google Pack: Due to the rapidly decreasing demand for downloadable software in favor of web apps, we will discontinue Google Pack today. People will still be able to access Googleâ(TM)s and our partnersâ(TM) software quickly and easily through direct links on the Google Pack website.

    Of all these services, this upsets me the most. No where was I able to find a nice installer/packge manager for windows that installed all these packages automatically w/o any cruft or addons, and kept it all up-to-date.

    Also, I seriously dispute their claim of "rapidly decreasing demand for downloadable software in favor of web apps". There are a whole host of benefits that downloadable software give, that web apps do not. (like, when the provider stops supporting the software, you still have access to it .....)

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    1. Re:Google pack :( by Caetel · · Score: 2

      Ninite is a similar product with a wider range of software, although they charge $10 per year for their automatic updater.

  16. I want them to go back to search. by drunkennewfiemidget · · Score: 2

    Their search results are progressively more useless with every passing day. How about they work on the product that got them big in the first place?

    Also, when I read the list of programs that are being cancelled, I went, "never heard of it" to all of them.