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BMW Working On Laser Headlamps

MrSeb writes "LED headlamps are only just trickling onto the market — mostly on high-end cars — but now it seems a certain German automaker has plans for laser headlamps. 'Laser light is the next logical step in car light development ... for series production within a few years in the BMW i8 plug-in hybrid,' says BMW. Lasers have the potential to be simultaneously more powerful, more efficient, and smaller than other headlamp types. Before you get too excited, though: the output of laser headlights will be modulated for safety."

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  1. Ah wonderful by Osgeld · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its not like the HID lamps fucking blind you enough as it is, we need LASERS! so we can be blinded up to 2 miles away

    1. Re:Ah wonderful by barlevg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They can say all they like that they'll be "modulated for safety," but the truth is that THIS GENERATION of LED headlights are too bright. My car is low to the ground, and I don't have the best of night vision, so on more than a few many a dark, rainy nights, I've been nearly blinded by the LED headlights of the SUV behind me to the point that it took several such incidents for me to realize these assholes didn't just have their high-beams on.

    2. Re:Ah wonderful by mcvos · · Score: 3, Informative

      Its not like the HID lamps fucking blind you enough as it is, we need LASERS! so we can be blinded up to 2 miles away

      My thoughts exactly. Biking in the dark and rain, oncoming headlines make it impossible to see anything other than painful light surrounded by a lot of dark. I'd like to see headlamps toned down a bit.

  2. sharks are optional by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

    Beamers always looked nice, now with the optional tiny sharks inside the headlamps they'll be simply irresistible.

    What would PETA say?

    1. Re:sharks are optional by nschubach · · Score: 5, Funny

      Lasers give new meaning to "Beamer".

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      Every time I start to have faith in humanity, I ruin it by driving to work between 7 and 8 am.
  3. Re:Yeah thanks..... by Fnord666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And as they stated, the LEDs are bright enough.. WTF we need lasers?

    Among other things, laser light is a lot more energy efficient. According to the article, BMW is getting 170 lumens per watt as compared to 100 lumens per watt for LED lights.

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    'The tyrant will always find pretext for his tyranny.' - Aesop's Fables
  4. Re:why lasers? by barlevg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    (what's the word for non-laser?)

    incoherent?

  5. Re:why lasers? by otis+wildflower · · Score: 3, Interesting

    incoherent light?

    IMO I'd rather see laser 'sparkplugs' first, I know Ford is working on them..

  6. Car Analogy + Lasers + Sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Put them on the Hyundai Tiburon.

  7. Re:why lasers? by jittles · · Score: 4, Informative

    The laser plugs aren't to save electricity. The laser burns so hot that you get a much better "spark" if you will. In other words, more complete combustion and therefore more power, less gas fumes in exhaust, and (I am no expert but I imagine) less CO as well.

  8. Re:Excellent by badbart · · Score: 3, Funny

    Forever more I will be stuck with the image of Bullwinkle in a lab coat, saying "watch me pull a spectrum out of a hat!"

  9. Re:Yeah thanks..... by Solandri · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because they are more efficient for the same brightness levels, which is especially important for electric cars, since they'll be less of a drain on the batteries.

    The typical sedan needs about 20-25 hp to maintain highway speeds. That's 15-19 kW. Car headlights are about 50 Watts each. If as a post above says, laser headlights represent a 70% improvement in efficiency, that means you could replace 100 Watts of headlights with about 60 Watts of laser headlights - a 40 Watt savings.

    40 Watts is 0.2%-0.3% of 15-19 kW. If you take the Nissan Leaf which has a nominal 70 mile range at highway speeds, saving 40 Watts will get you about 800-100 feet (240-300 meters) in additional range on a full charge compared to regular halogen headlights. So they represent a trivial amount of energy savings which nobody is going to notice, even on an EV.

    That said, BMW is a luxury brand (in the U.S.). So they'll probably be able to sell enough of these to rich people (early adopters) to justify the R&D costs, and it'll help improve the state of the art for everyone. But don't make the mistake of thinking that this will result in any significant energy savings for EVs.

  10. Not Laser headlights by jklovanc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Read this sentence from the last paragraph of the article; "Importantly, therefore, before the light from the tiny laser diodes is emitted onto the road, the originally bluish laser light beam is first of all converted by means of a fluorescent phosphor material inside the headlight into a pure white light which is very bright and pleasant to the eye." Therefore no lase light escapes the headlight. This is in effect laser stimulated florescence. The one number they miss in the article is what is the conversion ration between the light incoming to the phosphor and the light given off by the phosphor. It could be 100% but I don't know. After this conversion the light is probably no longer coherent and will disperse like a headlight should.