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P2P Traffic Drops 10% After New NZ Law

harryjohnston writes "Following the introduction of New Zealand's new copyright legislation, which we discussed last week, major ISP Orcon reports that international peer-to-peer traffic has dropped 10%. This might mean that the law is actually working to some extent, though experts say the effect will probably only be temporary."

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  1. Nice! by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So 5% got a seedbox in Tonga after all, now the traffic will just be FTP instead of P2P.
    The other 5% switched to Rapidshare and Co.

    1. Re:Nice! by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or 10% are towards the end of their billing cycle and are trying to stay beneath their ridiculous data cap... ;)

    2. Re:Nice! by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Informative

      actually yes. The Germans and other countries have their illegal streaming portals there.

  2. Hahaha. it failed. by unity100 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    if its just 10% drop at the advent of the law, it means it outright failed.

    moreover, they just made piracy 'cooler' and more worthy of doing for a lot of rebel types and kids.

    1. Re:Hahaha. it failed. by nzac · · Score: 4, Informative

      Its worse than that some ISPs are only able to say they noticed a drop and other ISPs report no drop.

      Since no notices are being set as of yet I expect it will recover and then exceed previous levels if no notices are sent.
      The government said they would review the law if it failed to work so the rights holder may want it to fail.

    2. Re:Hahaha. it failed. by nzac · · Score: 3, Informative

      Don't know who your friends are let me assure you that leeching is very much alive (no one seeds at $1-2.5/GB). It does not seem to be confined to one demographic either. The inability for some to stream at DVD def (slow connections) and having to pay for extra bandwith to watch on demand with ads makes torrenting very attractive.

      I get annoyed at people who waste bandwidth re-downloading youtube. I do use this to rationalise the downloading of low quality mp3s.

  3. No notices have been sent yet by nzac · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interestingly the law has yet to be used (or at least no news sites have reported it).

    The 25 dollar charge couple with low chance of actually getting any money back have made the law seem pretty useless. I would think the fines would be around the minimum of 300 or so there is little chance of making a profit or even getting your money back.

    The problem with putting the burden of proof on the accused is that judges will find it hard to award large damages (500+) since the account holder could not lock down his network and does not have the skill or money to prove it did not happen. Getting someone’s net cut off so they can't buy music legally is not the best business model either. If they have to get a friend to do it, there will be high chance of copywrite infringement immediately afterwards.

  4. 10% is weak by Kjella · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Sweden after IPRED it was 30%, after half a year they were essentially back on the same curve as before. Everybody fears a token crackdown, like people speed everywhere but right after they've reduced speed on some road it's very wise to stick to the limit a while because it's always followed up by a bunch of controls on that road. It won't last since everybody knows they don't have the resources to go after everyone, it's just temporary.

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  5. In Sweden... by mmcuh · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...when they implemented the IPRED EU directive which gives the copyright lobby the right to force ISPs to give them the names of suspected filesharers, the traffic dropped by almost 30% on the day the law came into effect. However, it started increasing again almost immediately and a year later it's higher than ever before, and still increasing - just like it has been since the late 90s.

  6. Re:Time Indeed for the Cypher Revolution by Colio-Light · · Score: 4, Informative
    Not since the 80's with David Lange has NZ stood up against Americans with uranium on their breath and truly been able to say they are an individual country.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeHTziiFVx0

    so yes, transparency.org might list NZ as high - but what does't get told much is the relationship between big business and MP's, and the fact that corporate law in NZ is the fastest changing in the world.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/warner-bros-sought-job-law-change-film-the-hobbit-nz-135087

    "Warner Brothers used the threat of filming The Hobbit movies elsewhere to gain changes to New Zealand's employment laws, it was reported tonight. An email obtained under the Official Information Act showed the production company wanted "stability" to film the movies in New Zealand and was worried about "grey areas" of employment law, Radio New Zealand reported."

    http://tvnz.co.nz/technology-news/us-lobbied-nz-over-copyright-laws-wikileaks-cables-4149178

    "The cables also show that the US offered to spend more than $500,000 to fund a recording industry-backed IP enforcement initiative. According to the cables, the US actively lobbied several cabinet members while New Zealand was working through its copyright reform in 2008"

    "A February 2008 cable notes that Consumer Affairs Minister Judith Tizard and Trade Minister Phil Goff were presented with a list of shortfalls to submit as the legislation was being drafted. "Post has presented the list of noted shortfalls in the draft legislation to Minister Tizard (Consumer Affairs), Minister Goff (Trade) and to officials within the Ministry of Economic Development, the agency primarily responsible for drafting legislation and monitoring IP enforcement. "Post remains engaged with Bronwyn Turley, Senior MED Policy Advisor for IP issues to maintain a dialogue to address the needed technical corrections," the cable noted. New copyright laws were passed in April 2008."

    • Total costs: NZ $533,000 (US $386,158)
    • Start-up costs: NZ $78,000 (US $56,510)
    • Salaries: NZ $215,000 (US $155,768)
    • Operating costs: NZ $240,000 (US $173,880)
    • Start-up costs (NZ dollars):
    • Furnishings $25,000
    • IT costs (equipment) $45,000
    • Sundries $8,000
    • Salaries (NZ dollars):
    • Unit head $90,000
    • Intelligence and policy development $60,000
    • Licensing and enforcement officer $40,000
    • Administrative support $25,000
    • Operating costs (NZ dollars):
    • Accommodations (rental, utilities) $55,000
    • IT support $15,000
    • Legal costs (investigation, prosecution)$75,000
    • Training (internet piracy, law) $50,000
    • Travel costs $35,000
    • Employer liabilities $10,000