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Pledge Asks Chinese Hackers To Reject Cybertheft
angry tapir writes "Two prominent Chinese hackers have released a convention calling for the rejection of cybertheft and are asking their peers to support it, as China is increasingly seen as the source of international hacking attacks. The two hackers, Gong Wei and Wan Tao, released their 'Hackers' Self-Discipline Convention' to the Chinese media and posted its contents on the Internet. The hackers declined to offer further comment, but the document presents itself as a moral code that outlines appropriate hacking activities. The document states that hackers will not obtain money through stealing from the public. Hacking groups will also not spread knowledge or tools that are meant to take income. 'The public's privacy, especially that of children and minors, will be protected,' the document says. Any activity to buy or sell people's private information is considered inappropriate."
They will now be executioned
American infrastructure instead.
Sounds like someone's finally made the distinction between "white hat" and "black hat" hackers.
Amazing! Why couldn't anyone have come up with this idea before?
lacking a better translation, here is one from Google:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chowngroup.com%2Fconvention.html
this is like the n:th re-incarnation of such pledgers.
it's just common sense 1-2-3 - except with the viewpoint that they, as "hackers", are the new gods. fuck 'em, it's just chinese propaganda from another angle.
and that moral code of theirs is lacking, as it can be twisted to ban modchip creation etc(it takes income from game sellers).
(it's also a pledge to get away from being prosecuted for some what seems pretty minor defaces)
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
err, I mean Hacker's Cant.
C'mon, treaspassing is illegal. So, these guys are hackers with a conscience. Oh boy! I can appreciate the value that hacking can bring, but it should always be at the behest of those who own the property that will be hacked. Otherwise, hacking is criminal. If you are going to be a criminal, then this agreement is a handicap. A prosecutor is not going to do a litmus test to see whether you are a unconscionable or ethical hacker. I wonder if they will have a Thieve's Cant. The only way this code means anything is if it can be enforced. Are we going to see hacker wars as the good fight the bad?
White hat hackers will sign it and stay good.
Black hat hackers will sign it and stay evil, with the benefit of appearing good.
Perhaps the chinese should re-introduce the evil bit.
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should never go together.
Inasmuch as it shows that there are ethical people in China. We need reminding that good people can be found in China - not all of them are evil, which is the impression you get from news.
It is good that someone is pushing it for the Chinese, and who knows, maybe some kids will notice there is still a line (fuzzy that it might be) that separates those who are simply criminals from those who do it for an ideology that is more deep than "for the lulz" or simply "to make me some easy money".
Whatever.
Long ago, "hacking" was a synonym to ethical acting.
One used the word "hack" as a self-humbling designation; a way to dimnish one own's virtues to avoid being called a genius -- instead claiming to have achieved things thru hard work.
Alas, today big corps and media tycoons have successfully qualified inquisitive people as criminals; no wonder there's a "first to file" patent method: being creative now is getting to the USPTO first.
Anyway, my point is being humble didn't come alone, there was a lot of Ethics hackers used to have. Do people really need a script on how to act decently?
More importantly, will it help? Should it be enforced? You know, being forced to be honest is not the same as being honest voluntarily...
they should pledge not to make crappy plastic shit (while trying very poorly to rip off the design).
That would get them sweating.
Chinese me: All right, I pledge I will not produce any more crappy plastic sh-- wait a minute not produce ANY more??? Um... Yeah, okay, you can have my "pledge".... I'll send it in the mail -- sends them a beautiful cast-iron plaque : "I will not produce plastic crap." Well...it's cast-iron coated...
What's that? Copping a feel online?
The "cyber" thing really needs to be dropped.
Is this kinda like the abstinence pledge?
China is increasingly seen as the source of international hacking attacks
correction: China is increasingly caught as the source of international hacking attacks
China is stepping up the the attacks but only more recently have they been repeatedly caught and "called out" on it on an international level.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
I signed up and did all of that even though I'm not a Chinese hacker.
Someone sent me an official looking email and all I had to do was put my WoW user name and password in it. It didn't let me log in the first couple times so I entered it in a few more times for consistency.
lol
"China is increasingly seen as the source of international hacking attacks"
We should ask ourselves who also is top of the State Departments shitlist, is there a correlation?
This is like pedophiles pledging to restrict their attentions only to children who want it.
If you manage to convince people that you're a (relatively) good guy who is outside the law, then you can become classed as a rebel with a cause. Such people are often seen as heroes (like Robin Hood). If you pull that off, then you might get off the hook while getting others to be chased instead.
Asking the Chinese peoples to reject cybertheft is as useless as asking Philadephian peoples to stop butt fucking their dogs.
They just will not stop.