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Sesame Street Begins Teaching Math and Science

An anonymous reader sends in this excerpt from ABC News: "This season of 'Sesame Street,' which premiered today, has added a few new things to its usual mix of song, dance and educational lessons. In its 42nd season, the preschool educational series is tackling math, science, technology, and engineering — all problem areas for America's students — in hopes of helping kids measure up. ... This season, 'Sesame Street' will include age-appropriate experimentation — even the orange monster Murray will conduct science experiments in a recurring feature."

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  1. Right on! by gman003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This alone will probably do more to improve education than the entire No Child Left Behind Act. Provided, of course, that it actually teaches the purpose of experimentation and science, teaches kids to ask "why?" and devise experiments to test ideas. All too often, "kid science" is "do this, then this, and now look at the pretty (green goo|flames|shiny), followed by a lecture on what went on. I'm hopeful that this will be one of the ones to get it right.

    1. Re:Right on! by migla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have no kind of inkling about the first sentence of the previous poster, but the part about 'teaches kids to ask "why?"' I'd like to amend: Hope it teaches them to want to ask "why?".

      (Or maybe that would obviously be implied?)

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    2. Re:Right on! by Cryacin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Shut up. Not now. I'm busy.

      These are words that should never be uttered by a parent to a child. Why? Because it promptly snuffs the flame of curiosity. Most parents don't even realise they're doing it. They're just too absorbed in whatever they're doing to notice what they've just said to their curious 3 year old.

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    3. Re:Right on! by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Probably because NCLB was an unfunded mandate which had bench marks set via standardized testing of a rather elaborate nature. Also due to the stakes it tends to crowd out significant portions of the year when teachers are theoretically supposed to be teaching.

    4. Re:Right on! by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They only get #1 spots when they talk about the 10,000 year old space aliens that built the pyramids or the coming apocalypse(s)... Which may explain the bulk of their modern programming...

      Sarcasm aside... I've found the BBC far more interesting and informative lately.

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  2. This will lead to nothing but confusion by Master+Moose · · Score: 5, Funny

    What about when they get to E=MC2

    Because last time i checked, C is for cookie, thats good enough for me

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    1. Re:This will lead to nothing but confusion by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      Eat=Me*Cookie^2

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    2. Re:This will lead to nothing but confusion by vux984 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because last time i checked, C is for cookie, thats good enough for me

      You, like me are too old.

      Cookie Monster has been castrated. Cookies are a "sometimes food", and he mostly eats vegetables now.

      And Elmo is the antithesis of all that was ever good about the show.

    3. Re:This will lead to nothing but confusion by spitzak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Cookie Monster has been castrated. Cookies are a "sometimes food", and he mostly eats vegetables now.

      This is a right-wing lie/urban legend:

      http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Cookie_Monster_now_the_Veggie_Monster%3F

      It was Hoots the Owl who sang "A Cookie Is a Sometimes Food" to Cookie Monster. At the end of the song, Cookie Monster declared, "NOW is sometimes!" and gobbled the cookie anyway.

  3. Sounds great to me by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Sesame Street helps reduce the frequency of math-phobes in our young population, I will be eternally thankful. Too many people have escaped learning math due to being afraid of it; if they are introduced to it at a young age they might not develop an irrational fear of it.

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  4. Re:Combustion by Phizital1ty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    St. Elmos Fire?

  5. Re:Today's episode... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can see the Count now: "The number of the day is 3, Point, 1, 4, 1, 5, *ha ha ha*, 9, 2, 6, 5, 3, *ha ha ha*, 5....."

    Much, much later in the episode....

    Count (very tired): "... 2... 8... 1.... 3... ah, I quit!" (collapses from exhaustion)

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  6. Re:Alarming amount of propaganda by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's an alarming amount of pro-liberal, pro-government and pro-business propaganda on Sesame Street in addition to the lessons of childhood. I wouldn't trust it any more than late Soviet propaganda.

    No there isn't. I'm fairly well attuned to these things and watch Sesame Street with my kids.

    Prove me wrong with five examples.

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  7. Some(?) are on YouTube already. by antdude · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check the latest uploads in https://www.youtube.com/user/SesameStreet ... They even have two major The Big Bang Theory actors in it!

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  8. Re:Maybe it can help me by jasomill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I still don't understand math. I can manipulate the symbols but I don't understand what the symbols represent.

    Spoken like a true algebraist! "The symbols" represent anything you want them to, subject only to whatever "ground rules" the desired algebraic manipulations require.

    I believe that as a student in any discipline, understanding the things that the symbols represent is far more essential than being able to decode the symbols without comprehension.

    I'd go further and question what it means in the first place to "learn" something without understanding it. In this sense, what one needs to "understand" is that the value of algebra is precisely that the symbols are "meaningless." This extends directly to C.S., and, for that matter, bookkeeping — using one set of symbols and procedures to enumerate, say, sheep, and another for, I don't know, ice cream cones, would be a major PITA.

    Sure I have basic concepts down such as whole numbers, but more complex functions are completely lost on me.

    If you take a nonzero complex number to be a positive "scale factor" and an angle (i.e., taking "polar coordinates"), you can think of them as geometric transformations, namely, rotation and uniform scaling about some fixed point in the plane. Then "complex multiplication" is simply "composition of transformations," which, as you can easily see from the geometry, happens to be commutative. Incidentally, quaternions are heavily used in computer graphics for similar reasons in three dimensions.

    And addition of complex numbers is just "vector addition" in the plane, a.k.a. "adding arrows," a.k.a., adding pairs of numbers "componentwise." But you can do that in exactly the same way for triples, quadruples, quintuples, . . ., n-tuples of numbers; what's special about complex numbers is that they also have multiplication that follows the exact same rules as "ordinary" multiplication. And again, what they "represent" is entirely up to you — they're often used in physics and engineering to represent a great variety of phenomena. What do these phenomena have in common? The simple and seemingly bone-headed, but nevertheless true answer really does seem to be, "similar equations." This is no different, conceptually, than what counting sheep and counting ice cream cones have in common, namely, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, . . . whatever these "mean."

    I would be ever grateful to a math educator who could teach understandable concepts first, followed distantly by symbolic notation. Now that you understand what I'm taking about, I'll give this concept a name: "numbers vs numerals"

    Highly recommended reading.

    While I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments, I tend to feel the problem is less one of "notation" per se and a more fundamental one of poor communication — funny symbols are just shorthand for (lots and lots of typically tedious and quite repetitive) words, after all. The main purpose of mathematical speech, including, without limitation, the sort used in the classroom, is communication. While this is no different than any other subject, I'm amazed at the number of students and teachers, "good" and "bad" alike, who seem to think it is.

    In an unrelated nod to the article, how is this "news"? I'm 33 years old, and the Count has been around for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 years longer than me! (cue laughter and lightning)