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HP Investigates Android TouchPads Delivered With Android

angry tapir writes "HP is investigating how several TouchPads reportedly shipped to end users running Android, instead of webOS. Shortly after HP announced it would stop selling TouchPads and began offering the remaining tablets for US$99, reports surfaced from a few users who say they received TouchPads that run Android instead of HP's webOS software. At the same time, developers have been working on porting Android to the TouchPad, since it's uncertain how much support and development HP will dedicate to webOS in the future."

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  1. Re:Wrong title? by Sockatume · · Score: 2

    HP delivered Touchpad tablets running Android OS (Android Touchpads), but they accidentally also delivered a humanoid automaton (Android) too.

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  2. Previous returns sold as new most likely by erroneus · · Score: 2

    They didn't ship with Android. They likely shipped with WebOS and had Android installed later. Or perhaps someone was hacking with Android behind the scenes and test units got sent out for sale. I would be more inclined to think these were previously returned and repackaged for sale as new.

    1. Re:Previous returns sold as new most likely by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Informative

      The "Android Touchpads" that were delivered were actually in a much more advanced state (e.g. the touchscreen worked) than the Touchpad hacking scene had achieved.

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  3. WebOS Linux or Android Linux? by h00manist · · Score: 2

    Funny how the debate is between Linux-1 and Linux-2. Would be good if most Linux apps ran on most Linux OS's.

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    1. Re:WebOS Linux or Android Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Linux is a kernel, not an application framework

    2. Re:WebOS Linux or Android Linux? by Microlith · · Score: 2

      Google started the debate by taking the Linux kernel, forking it, and dropping an incompatible user space on it. Now the FOSS Linux user space has to compete with a non-FOSS user space, that happens to be backed by the marketing and advertising revenue of Google.

      Google is, unfortunately, the outlier here. And it causes problems for the rest of the Linux world.

    3. Re:WebOS Linux or Android Linux? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Last time I looked, the Android user space is Apache licensed, and the Apache license is FOSS...

  4. Re:So I guess... by wren337 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apparently they have an internal working android port, and the community is requesting the source code (per the license). If it can be shown that HP shipped android, even accidentally, then they need to provide the source on request.

  5. Re:So I guess... by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

    To follow, unless someone can prove that they patched the kernel HP doesn't have to release jack.

  6. Re:Hey! by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

    That really depends on what version of Android it was and whether it contains enough generic Android to have a post-Honeycomb system built upon it.

    The Google Android developers forum thread on the subject does contain comments implying that the Android version shipped may be a version used at the factory to test the hardware. This would imply a heavily customized version, and wouldn't imply anything else (ie it could be pre-Froyo, and could be barely usable.)

    I would want to know more about what was shipped before making any assumptions about how useful the system might be, to me or reverse engineers, or indeed, whether it's a prank.

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  7. Don't add more closed source eh? by fluffy99 · · Score: 2

    The Cyanogen team would be foolish to even look at the dumped ROM from these tablets. It sounds like they really want the drivers for things like the video and bluetooth, which are likely closed source binaries. That would make them no better than any other company violating the GPL.

    It's kind of ironic that they are trying to strong arm HP and Qualcomm using legal tactics into releasing code that they never intended to release. (Yes in many ways using GPLd code is like poisoning your project). Even if it was a compiled driver that they intended to installed on tablets they sold, they are still under no obligation to release anything unless it was based on GPL'd code.

    1. Re:Don't add more closed source eh? by Microlith · · Score: 2

      That would make them no better than any other company violating the GPL.

      Only if they redistributed them. But with Bluetooth it's almost always a firmware issue (which could be had from any existing Touchpad.) You're probably right about the graphics drivers (the disaster there we can thank Google for.)

      Yes in many ways using GPLd code is like poisoning your project

      Bullshit. If you wander into using GPL'd sources for something without knowing what its terms are, you are a fool.

  8. Re:not touchpads by Sockatume · · Score: 2

    They're bought from HP, shipped from HP, come in an HP Touchpad box and are clearly actually HP Touchpads. And you have somehow decided that they are off-brand Android tablets bought from Wal-mart.

    Do you make a game out of drawing conclusions from the most incorrect information possible?

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  9. Damn! How'd that happen? by PPH · · Score: 2

    I guess they'll have to fire the CEO.

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  10. Current status of Android Port by TrueSpeed · · Score: 2

    From the rootzwiki site here is what is working and what is not working. As you can see they are very close to releasing a beta.

    WORKING
    Android USB gadget with adb
    LVM in Android
    Touchscreen with multitouch
    GPU acceleration
    Proper pixel format(color).
    Sound via speakers
    WiFi
    Accelerometer
    Battery reporting

    NOT WORKING
    Video playback via overlay
    Camera
    Bluetooth
    Gyroscope
    Compass