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  1. Moderation system by tech4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The moderation system seriously needs thinking and redone. It's constantly abused on Slashdot, up to the point where it really has started to annoy people. All the stories are filled with slashdot groupthink comments and it's always clear what kind of comments will be modded up and which down. This especially comes up within certain subjects - anything anti-piracy will get modded to -1, as does anything that says good things about Microsoft.

    This really ruins the comment system as one is supposed to only have certain mindset and he is supposed to do all the same comments over and over again. Then there is the other mod abuse what happens when someone sees a comment he really doesn't like, so he goes on personal war against the poster and downmods all his comments from his comment profile, causing him bad karma and inability to post. Moderation system needs some serious work.

    1. Re:Moderation system by jbeaupre · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slashdot has probably of the best comment systems on Earth. But it certainly is subject to orthodoxy. Unpopular opinions are modded down, turning some comment threads into echo chambers. I'd rather hear stuff I don't agree with than only one side.

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    2. Re:Moderation system by blair1q · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't see it that way.

      Being able to express a contrary opinion while retaining popular support is a skill. Being a dick about it is what gets you modded down to stay.

      Targeted moderation attacks do happen, but it's easy to see when they do, and you can request that your karma be repaired and the offender be dealt with. Mod points link back to the modder.

      I suppose the one change would be that you never get mod privs if you're not contributing otherwise, and the number you get starts at 1 and goes up with karma and participation. And then you can go to the marketplace and buy armor and weapons and potions and spells...

    3. Re:Moderation system by Tsingi · · Score: 2

      The moderation system seriously needs thinking and redone. It's constantly abused on Slashdot, up to the point where it really has started to annoy people. All the stories are filled with slashdot groupthink comments and it's always clear what kind of comments will be modded up and which down. This especially comes up within certain subjects - anything anti-piracy will get modded to -1, as does anything that says good things about Microsoft. This really ruins the comment system as one is supposed to only have certain mindset and he is supposed to do all the same comments over and over again. Then there is the other mod abuse what happens when someone sees a comment he really doesn't like, so he goes on personal war against the poster and downmods all his comments from his comment profile, causing him bad karma and inability to post. Moderation system needs some serious work.

      I agree with what you say. But none of this is a big secret. Your post would be useful if you suggested a fix.

    4. Re:Moderation system by snowraver1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      1) Roll the comments system version back like 6 years. Make it load fast. Make it load all the comments on a single page (according to your moderation score preferences) If i'm browsing at -1, I want to see it all.

      2) Make it load faster. Sometimes pages take forever to load, then when they do load, they scroll slowly. I think this is caused by fancy javascripting or something. Just display the comments. We don't need/want any fancy web 2.0 features.

      3) We need better trolls. The trolls right now are lame. What happened to GNAA? Maybe you should invite them back.

      4) The comment quality is getting worse. Slashdot is now mostly mundane comments. Sure, some are funny, but most lack content.

      5) Take a note from Ars Technica. They are getting better commenters, they have original content (why not have feature stories here). Ars's commenting system sucks, but yet they still manage higher quality comments.

      6) Delete all accounts numbered 2,000,000+. Remove signup. Invite only.

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    5. Re:Moderation system by bky1701 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ever think that maybe people on slashdot are just tired of hearing those poor arguments, not only on slashdot, but from the vast majority of the non-technical population? Holding a discredited view isn't something to be proud of, and people not kowtowing to you for it isn't a flaw.

      If you have an actual argument to make about something, then make it, and see if it flies. Moderation is to some extent the measure of how well this specific community has taken your comment. And that doesn't always fall along political/sect lines, as you seem to claim. I've seen many comments in favor of copyright and in favor of Microsoft get modded to +5. It is just rarer, perhaps because the people who typically make those comments do not share the same values as the slashdot community, or because they're just assholes.

    6. Re:Moderation system by bigtomrodney · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's certainly not perfect, but I'd agree it's one of the best systems you'll find anywhere on the 'net. Look at the results of the vote systems on Digg and Reddit. Formerly sites that had intelligent contribution that have been brought to the lowest common denominator and worse. You do get a certain type of comment being approved frequently here but it's certainly a better trade-off than endless memes being rewarded while intelligent discussion is relegated to the darkest corners.

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    7. Re:Moderation system by bky1701 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It has a single voice if you want it to have a single voice, ie, you already think it does. A whole lot of people claim that on here, but it really is a dead unicorn trope. Why? Because when some story comes up which you would think would cause everyone to fall in line... people start arguing about it. However, confirmation bias works wonders. Funny how people who think slashdot has groupthink seem to disagree amongst themselves as to what, exactly, are the ideas slashdot is groupthinking about...

    8. Re:Moderation system by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you feel strongly that mod points are being misused, participate in meta-moderation. This does two things. First, it calls attention to poor use of mod points, and second, it will get you mod points more often (assuming your karma OK.)

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    9. Re:Moderation system by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      I think when a post which is factually wrong gets modded up to +5 informative, it if fair to moderate as overrated. Does a wrong post deserve +5 informative?

      I also think it is probably fair to mod a vapid post which is on +5 insightful as overrated. Does a vapid post desreve +5 insightful?

      In both cases, it is fair for the moderator to mod them as overrated as they are in the opinion of the mod, overrated. I personally think that modding overrated should only be done to posts over the default level.

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    10. Re:Moderation system by bigtomrodney · · Score: 3

      I agreed with everything you said, even about the trolls...but you can't be serious about removing members or making the site invite only. The moderation system does a fine job of silencing dumb comments.

      The biggest thing to take from this is the old comment system. I really don't know why everything feels so rubbery and unresponsive, I actually did like the graphical side of the site overhaul but the sluggishness kills me. I'd love the old site back for a month.

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    11. Re:Moderation system by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Funny

      snowraver1 (1052510) writes: 6) Delete all accounts numbered 2,000,000+. Remove signup. Invite only.

      Agreed, except that we should start at 1,000,000.

    12. Re:Moderation system by AdamHaun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair, there are a lot of posts that are overrated even at Score:1.

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    13. Re:Moderation system by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's constantly abused on Slashdot, up to the point where it really has started to annoy people.

      Do what I do and read at -1, ignoring all mods. That way it won't annoy you. Yeah you'll run into the occasional goatse/GNAA/epic troll post. So what?

      If any changes are made to the moderation system at least let users like me be able to opt out of the new system, because ANY automated system can be abused by non-automated humans. I'd rather take my chances than miss out on the numerous good posts that never get modded up.

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    14. Re:Moderation system by causality · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slashdot has probably of the best comment systems on Earth. But it certainly is subject to orthodoxy. Unpopular opinions are modded down, turning some comment threads into echo chambers. I'd rather hear stuff I don't agree with than only one side.

      I've found that one can thoughtfully articulate an unpopular opinion in a way that causes others to consider ideas and perspectives they would otherwise be unwilling to entertain. Though they do it for petty and ignorant reasons, that same rigid orthodoxy winds up serving the higher purpose of helping me sharpen a skill that is otherwise more difficult and costly to practice. If they insist on being this way, let them; I will continue to use it constructively despite their narrow-minded intentions.

      If you're going to fix something about this site, you should first identify something that can be easily recognized as broken. What comes to my mind is the JS that drives the comment system. It's unresponsive as hell. Most of the time, I have to click "Preview" and "Submit" multiple times before anything happens. Even then, it often won't update to show me the finalized comment, forcing me to use my browser's Refresh button. Since this is neither consistent nor the intended functionality, I consider it a glaring and obvious bug(s). If I were the developer, I would focus on basic usability and getting fundamental functions to work smoothly before I'd move on to larger ideas.

      Otherwise, it would be easier to view the staff as a group of professionals if they'd take a small portion of their revenues and hire a good copy editor. Even a part-time copy editor would help tremendously. I frequently see mistakes that even automated spell-checkers would have caught. You're telling me an article submitted to an audience of millions isn't important enough to spend a few hundred milliseconds of CPU time to run a spell-checker? That would cost nothing, even if they can't be bothered to proofread anything. The lack of even basic attempts to achieve quality sends the message that these are not professionals who really care about the quality of their work, that they're just mercenaries who are not doing something they enjoy and value.

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    15. Re:Moderation system by fermion · · Score: 2

      I do not think that /. has groupthink. Many of my comments are modded up and down. The lame one tend to stay down, while the ones that appeal tend to move up and down. The only thing I have noticed is that a single people who moderte on the basis on personal belief rather than rational discussion. In many cases, if the mod down early, a good comment can be lost n the din of 0 and 1 moderated comment. The one way that this might be prevented is that anyone who negatively moderates a comment(even overrated and the like) that is then predominately overrated would lose a significant amount of karma, or might otherwise put lower in the moderation pool.

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    16. Re:Moderation system by omnichad · · Score: 2

      While your at it, you might as well have foes' mod points not counted in your view of Slashdot.

    17. Re:Moderation system by Zerth · · Score: 2

      snowraver1 (1052510) writes: 6) Delete all accounts numbered 2,000,000+. Remove signup. Invite only.

      Agreed, except that we should start at 1,000,000.

      Agreed, except that we should start at 100,000.

      Agreed, except that we should start at 10,000.

      No, wait#+++ATH0

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    18. Re:Moderation system by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      Yeah I've seen people complain because (this is the line they use) they "don't have time" to sift through all the comments. To those people I have always said: The good thing about reading is that the more you do it, the faster you get. And usually you can tell if a comment is worth reading in the first sentence or so. And finally if you are reading here on slashdot for anything other than recreation then you are doing it wrong. You don't have to be like Steve Jobs - always driving yourself hard every day. You can enjoy life, too. You only get to live it once.

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    19. Re:Moderation system by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2

      > The moderation system seriously needs thinking and redone.

      Any suggestions? I can't think of any other way to make the rating system more accurate than drawing from a collective of geeks. Besides, moderation "floats" so you don't have the same people all the time modding things to their liking. The task gets spread around a lot of different personalities.

      > This especially comes up within certain subjects

      If your favorite topics gets frequently blasted off the moderation scale maybe that's a sign that your topic isn't what you think it is.

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    20. Re:Moderation system by Magius_AR · · Score: 5, Informative

      1) Roll the comments system version back like 6 years. Make it load fast. Make it load all the comments on a single page (according to your moderation score preferences) If i'm browsing at -1, I want to see it all. 2) Make it load faster. Sometimes pages take forever to load, then when they do load, they scroll slowly. I think this is caused by fancy javascripting or something. Just display the comments. We don't need/want any fancy web 2.0 features.

      Seconded, whoreheartedly. AJAX is the bane of current web browsing -- everyone seems to think it's a "better way of doing things", when in reality it's slower, annoying, and godawful to deal with.

    21. Re:Moderation system by hedwards · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When they changed the meta-moderation system I stopped meta-moderating. I'd be surprised if I were the only one that stopped. The older system of an up or down vote was a lot easier to do, without actually spending huge amounts of time, it's just too hard to figure out what the moderation should have been.

      They could also provide an easier way of reporting abuses of mod points.

    22. Re:Moderation system by anyaristow · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm assuming meta-moderation is why I don't get mod points anymore. I've modded up some minority opinion and I've been punished for it.

      Not that this comment will ever be seen, as I'm also stuck permanently on a score of 1.

      Usually when I have the urge to comment I remind myself it's just Slashdot and posting is a waste of time.

    23. Re:Moderation system by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > he moderation system seriously needs thinking and redone. It's constantly abused on Slashdot,

      Even WITH all the group think, it is _light_ years ahead of Reddit. You can't even hold a civil discussion over there. At least here people can disagree.

    24. Re:Moderation system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Give all logged in users the ability to mod.

      Hell, NO! That's the main problem with Digg. Everybody can moderate, so moderation becomes commonplace. In Slashdot, you can't always moderate, and your possible number of moderations is limited. This makes every +1/-1 more valuable.

    25. Re:Moderation system by sexconker · · Score: 2

      Ever think that maybe people on slashdot are just tired of hearing those poor arguments, not only on slashdot, but from the vast majority of the non-technical population? Holding a discredited view isn't something to be proud of, and people not kowtowing to you for it isn't a flaw.

      The problem is it's all the discredited views that are modded up:
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      Global warming is caused by man and is a problem, and taxing carbon emissions and creating an entire carbon industry whose sole product is regulation and fucking over economies will fix it

      PCs are dying, tablets and phones with shitty touch screens and gestures are somehow more usable.

      Linux is a good OS for more than 0.1% of end users.

      WiMAX actually exists and does stuff.

      Open source results in better, more secure code.

      Android is open source.

      Slashdot is not just shitty idle, reddit clones, and dupes.

      Google tries to not be evil.

      Apple makes quality products that are worth the higher price.

      The European Union was a good idea.

      Democrats are good, Republicans are bad.

      Atheists are better than religious people and aren't even more annoying or obnoxious.

      Libertarians are actually racist anarchists and saying "lol libertopians" is just as good as actually learning what libertarian principles are.

      Whenever something new or interesting happens, it's best to look up a vaguely-similar thing from decades ago and say "already done", "prior art", or "old".

      Democracy is inherently good.

      Software patents need to be thrown out entirely instead of thinking for 5 minutes and overhauling the system.

      Piracy is not theft because I made a copy instead - the original is still there, despite the fact that to the creators, the value of the original is its sales potential, which has been diminished by your piracy.

      It doesn't matter because I wasn't going to buy it anyway, despite the fact that I greedily consume more media than the rest of my block, 99% of which is pirated, and I actively distribute it among my friends.

      Net Neutrality is a good idea so it's best to mindlessly trumpet it and ignore the fact that the actual legislation that passed specifically enables the horse shit net neutrality is supposed to prevent.

      Posting an XKCD comic vaguely related to the subject at hand is obligatory.

      XKCD is not almost always shit and factually wrong.
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      Indeed, about the only valid groupthink opinion Slashdot has left is the fearing/despising/tinfoiling with regards to anything related to the government.

    26. Re:Moderation system by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      As do we all.

      And above average to boot.

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    27. Re:Moderation system by sjbe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      On those cases, I've seen everyone mods "Overrated" a lot. There's someone with a signature on the lines of "'Overrated' is '-1 Disagree'", and I concur.

      I agree that happens but it's not just for honest disagreements. There is no way to explicitly moderate something as being factually wrong. Overrated is the only way to moderate something down that isn't a troll or flamebait. I think we need an "innacurate" or "misleading" mod option. Of course like everything it would get abused some but it would be useful too.

    28. Re:Moderation system by causality · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm assuming meta-moderation is why I don't get mod points anymore. I've modded up some minority opinion and I've been punished for it.

      Not that this comment will ever be seen, as I'm also stuck permanently on a score of 1.

      Usually when I have the urge to comment I remind myself it's just Slashdot and posting is a waste of time.

      If it helps, I mod up unpopular or minority opinions all the time. There is no shortage of cases when an unpopular notion that no one really wants to hear happens to be the fuckin' truth. I'd rather people grow up and work to change any truth they dislike. I won't help them do otherwise, nor should I.

      I don't view it as "just Slashdot". I view it as a way to almost instantly reach a large audience of mostly intelligent people, a technological marvel no one would have imagined just a hundred years ago. Consider for a moment how easy it is to take that for granted. If Slashdot goes away, I'll do this someplace else. They don't have a monopoly on communication. What they do have is a community I appreciate that actually knows a thing or two about reason, despite the highly visible users who don't.

      Eh, even if you don't like a single thing I've said, at least for now your (quoted verbatim) comment is effectively at my +3 score.

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    29. Re:Moderation system by shadowfaxcrx · · Score: 2

      Yes, but we still have the problem that anyone and everyone can moderate as long as they manage to get enough karma. As has already been discussed, it's pretty formulaic if you want to get modded up. Find the right discussion, and plug in the right "thoughts" and you'll be +5 in no time. So with enough formulaic regurgitation posts under your belt, you start getting mod points, and then it's really a matter of luck whether or not you're worthy of them.

      It is possible to have a conventional moderation system in which moderators are picked by the admins for their contributions to the community, and then given guidelines that they are expected to follow, lest they lose their moderator powers. The key is in writing good guidelines and then sticking to them.

      Slashdot's system is too anarchical to be reliable. I've been modded down -flamebait for such infractions as saying the Italian justice system has problems. Well, it does have problems. And who am I flamebaiting? Italy? As I said in the survey (and my sigline) "Flamebait" and "Troll" are Slashdotisms for "I don't agree with you," and that was not their intended use.

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    30. Re:Moderation system by robot_love · · Score: 2

      Here's my suggested fix:

      Move away from rating things +1 Insightful... to a simple "Agree or Disagree". Give a bonus for rating up or down posts that haven't been rated yet.

      Now, and here's the neat bit, allow people to filter the posts according to the best rated posts they agree with, and the best rated posts they disagree with.

      This way people will be presented with argument and counter argument, instead of just group-think.

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    31. Re:Moderation system by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hi. This comment has absolutely nothing to do with your comment, but I'm posting it here so it'll be at the top and more likely to be read and/or modded up.

      This is such a common practice nowadays that 75% of the discussion are all replies to the Frist Post and the whole thing becomes a fragmented mess.

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    32. Re:Moderation system by causality · · Score: 2

      Yes, but we still have the problem that anyone and everyone can moderate as long as they manage to get enough karma.

      My karma is maximized and has been for years now. I get mod points from time to time but not terribly often. I receive them maybe a few times a month. Also, I never receive the 15 points I hear others talk about. It's five each time. I don't consider this excessive.

      As has already been discussed, it's pretty formulaic if you want to get modded up. Find the right discussion, and plug in the right "thoughts" and you'll be +5 in no time. So with enough formulaic regurgitation posts under your belt, you start getting mod points, and then it's really a matter of luck whether or not you're worthy of them.

      If Slashdot is completely immune to determined individuals who wish to game the system, I believe it would be the first in history. When you consider the kind of empty person who would do all of this instead of manning up and telling the world what they really think with no apologies, well, they're pretty damned pathetic and ball-less. Let them have their ten minutes of gratification.

      Besides, those comments are also very easy to deconstruct if you have any kind of skill whatsoever with reason and disputation. You know you've done it well when the person suddenly shuts up and has nothing further to say despite your (non-inflammatory) obvious challenge to them. That's as close as most of these immature people ever come to having the guts to say "I was wrong about that, thanks for setting me straight". Either way, they are their own worst enemies. You probably have some mercy in you, so you likely would not make their existence as empty and pointless as they already do themselves. Consider it a built-in sort of justice.

      There is much to appreciate here. Don't let the childish types ruin it for you. They are quite vocal because they think making a lot of noise makes them right, but don't let that fool you. They are a much smaller minority than they would first appear to be.

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    33. Re:Moderation system by That+Guy+From+Mrktng · · Score: 2

      Hijacking the thread to inform that the form got slashdotted:

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      Been like that for the past 20 minutes.

    34. Re:Moderation system by bky1701 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Global warming is caused by man and is a problem, and taxing carbon emissions and creating an entire carbon industry whose sole product is regulation and fucking over economies will fix it [...]

      The European Union was a good idea. [...]

      Democrats are good, Republicans are bad. [...]

      Libertarians are actually racist anarchists and saying "lol libertopians" is just as good as actually learning what libertarian principles are. [...]

      Net Neutrality is a good idea so it's best to mindlessly trumpet it and ignore the fact that the actual legislation that passed specifically enables the horse shit net neutrality is supposed to prevent. [...]

      Indeed, about the only valid groupthink opinion Slashdot has left is the fearing/despising/tinfoiling with regards to anything related to the government.

      What the hell? You just went and provided a long list of "evidence" (which, by the way, quite gives away your political standing quite easily), only to then claim something that is in direct conflict with half of what you just wrote. How can slashdot believe those "discredited" ideas and still be fear-mongering against the government? 2+2=54373?

      This is exactly why people get modded down on slashdot, and it has nothing to do with groupthink. You claim that scientifically proven statements are false, pervert the English language to support your political positions (look up "theft," in either a legal or normal dictionary, and you will see it is a very specific definition), and then close with a nonsense claim... bias is not the problem in the vast majority of downmods, and their posters thinking that it is doesn't make it so.

    35. Re:Moderation system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When they changed the meta-moderation system I stopped meta-moderating. I'd be surprised if I were the only one that stopped.

      I'd like to know how metamod is supposed to work these days. What's the thing that's actually being measured?

      The pre-AJAX metamod system was relatively simple to understand: "Was the moderator's action of ("Insightful" or "Troll") a reasonable moderation to apply to a given post or not?" Having the "see in context" URL handy was invaluable - a snarky one-liner might be (-1, Troll) out of context, but in context be a clear (+5, Funny)

      The current metamod UI is confusing. "Below are a number of random user comments in our system. You are asked to decide if these are good or bad. Clicking the + and - indicates that you think that a comment is good or bad."

      To illustrate the conundrum, this comment, as made by an AC, starts at (Score: 0). I think it's a good comment, but it hasn't been moderated yet. It could just as easily be a (Score: 1) or (Score: 2) if I'd logged in and/or applied my karma bonus. But it shouldn't be showing up in metamoderation yet, because in none of those three cases has it ever been moderated. Even if it earned a (Score: 5) and if I had mod points I might not choose to moderate it up to 5 myself, I wouldn't click "-" on it in metamod; as it's not a bad comment.

      What does metamoderation actually measure these days? I see a lot of unmoderated comments in metamod (and I still don't know if my mouse clicks are working, even when Javascript is enabled. That might be my browser's fault...), so it's not like metamod can be putting the brakes on abusive moderations...

    36. Re:Moderation system by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree that the moderation system is very good.

      I have several opinions which are not mainstream here; for example, that most open source software is of poor quality.

      When I articulate my views clearly and show illustrative examples, my comments get modded up. At the very least, it stimulates discussion and invites people to post counter arguments. Putting up examples puts the burden on them to counter the argument and also explain why the illustrative examples exist.

      It makes for real discussion, rather than people just posting their position.

      Look at other sites that just allow comments - it's mostly people saying "I feel this..." or "I think that...".

      Having the moderation system forces people to be better commentators.

    37. Re:Moderation system by icebraining · · Score: 2

      Frankly, I don't think training would fix it; the goal of moderating is fairly obvious, especially by the time you get enough karma to get modpoints. We're just naturally biased to value more (especially with the "Insightful" mod) comments which agree with our preexisting beliefs.

    38. Re:Moderation system by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My suggestion would be to make a the "Off Topic" moderation disconnect a post from its parent and make it its own thread, preferably at the end of the list. Eventually the active discussion will shift farther down the page and it won't be necessary, while simultaneously not rewarding users who post before reading TFA.

      As it is, the entire discussion ends up being a reply to the first one or two posts, and those several starter posts tend to be the dumbest.

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    39. Re:Moderation system by Chelloveck · · Score: 3, Funny

      Low UID dickwars are soooo 1999.

      Spoken like a true loser of the Low UID Dickwars.

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    40. Re:Moderation system by adolf · · Score: 2

      I frequently give positive moderation to unpopular opinions that even I don't agree with, if the logic behind them is sane and the human reasoning seems genuine. Especially if the comment also brings new facts to a discussion.

      I cannot imagine that I am the only person with mod points to adopt this behavior.

    41. Re:Moderation system by David+Greene · · Score: 2

      Some way to track and not display what I already read would be nice and would help with this problem. So would e-mail alerts when a discussion or thread I mark or post to gets new comments.

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    42. Re:Moderation system by LWATCDR · · Score: 2

      Forget that. stope at 100,000.
      Actually when I look at other sites compared to Slashdot it is a revelation.
      Compared to CNN, Engadet, and most local new sites, Slashdot's commenters are on the whole much more civil, intelligent, and frankly good natured than most other sites.
      I would not allow AC commenters but I know that a lot of people on slashdot do not agree with that so.
      I would give people to ability to post as an AC but you still take a karma hit. Hey if it is not worth a karma hit to you say it then it isn't worth my time to read it.
      After all low karma on Slashdot does not hurt your job or income so who really cares?

      That and get new editors. They are posting stories that are nothing but pure inflammatory click bait. For example "http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/05/1536214/big-brother-calls-shotgun-in-illinois"

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    43. Re:Moderation system by magarity · · Score: 2

      My suggestion would be to make a the "Off Topic" moderation disconnect a post from its parent and make it its own thread, preferably at the end of the list. Eventually the active discussion will shift farther down the page and it won't be necessary, while simultaneously not rewarding users who post before reading TFA.

      That sounds great at first but people with a partisan axe to grind will disconnect an opposing viewpoint comment to its own thread and thus to obscurity. How would it get back?
      But mainly this works against the write only nature of the slashdot code. Notice there is no 'edit' for your post once it goes in; this is part of the secret to their fairly good response times. Adding the ability to change the reply-to chain would mean the database would need to be updateable and thus slower.

    44. Re:Moderation system by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 2

      Whenever I get mod points I get 15. Yea, my Karma has been maxed for a while, since like 1999 or something.

      I generally get mod points 2-3 times a month

    45. Re:Moderation system by somersault · · Score: 2

      You're right that people would try to abuse the feature, but if say it required 5 off-topic mods, plus individual users having the feature enabled, it wouldn't be so bad.

      It wouldn't require changing the database to implement the feature either really. As the page is being rendered by the perl script, offtopic posts could be held in a buffer and spit out at the end.

      But really, I doubt Slashdot would even blink when shuffling the occasional comment to the end of the line on a story. I know Slashdot is pretty high traffic, but it's not really any worse an operation than just submitting a new comment. The system could just delete the comment and resubmit it, or even just change the post number to latest post+1. Slashdot and all other high traffic sites these days are memcached, so it's not that big a deal.

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    46. Re:Moderation system by mjwx · · Score: 2

      When they changed the meta-moderation system I stopped meta-moderating. I'd be surprised if I were the only one that stopped. The older system of an up or down vote was a lot easier to do, without actually spending huge amounts of time, it's just too hard to figure out what the moderation should have been.

      You dont actually have to pick a reason, but it's better if you do. The way I treat meta moderation is "how would I mod this if I had mod points" rather then trying to guess the way other people modded it.

      They could also provide an easier way of reporting abuses of mod points.

      An easier way to report abuses, will lead to abuses of that.

      Some people get modded down fairly.

      My only complaint about moderation is fanboy mods. This is most prevalent with the "cultists" but I see it happen with the "Hippy's" too (BTW, I lump myself in with the Hippy (Linux) crowd). The group supports each other, modding up posts to +5 insightful that should be modded into oblivion simply because they agree with the troll. I refer specifically to post that are nothing more then baseless, scathing attacks on the other side (Android, MS, Apple et al.).

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    47. Re:Moderation system by symbolset · · Score: 2

      Well whatever this is certainly doesn't work well on my Asus Transformer tablet on any of the three browsers I use. It's barely functional on my Android phone. It works fairly well in the stock Debian browser because I use Classic view. It was painful last time I tried it on the iPad. It works OK in most versions of IE I've tried, but I don't like to fire up a Windows box just to browse /. It seems somehow... wrong.

      It reminds me of the old web interface for some HP bladesystem gear - you needed three browsers and two PCs just to access (or even view) the features of the equipment. Maybe they should just call out what browser combination this thing is validated on so most of us can have a good laugh and go away.

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  2. SHAPE the future? by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always liked triangles. Slashdot needs more triangles.

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    1. Re:SHAPE the future? by deains · · Score: 2

      Once you go dodecahedron, you never go back.

    2. Re:SHAPE the future? by loftwyr · · Score: 2

      The front side and the back side. What were you thinking?

  3. WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make it so I can see all the posts without logging in or Javascript. My usage of the site has gone down dramatically because it's a pain in the ass with the (relatively) new system. I have been reading the site since 1998 and this fucking sucks.

    1. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by Tsingi · · Score: 2

      I agree with this wholeheartedly. My home puter, which has more js restrictions on it, won't let me moderate. So I don't.

    2. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by bky1701 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Account -> Discussions -> Classic Discussion System (D1)

      It isn't as good as the "Interactive" system before the last "improvement," but it does work without javascript. Not sure how you didn't see this, as looking at slashdot without JS offers this to you.

    3. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by Jeng · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If classic mode is ever disabled I will never visit again. I cannot stand the default mode.

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    4. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by SydShamino · · Score: 2

      This. It's really annoying that, when something really interesting comes up, it's a pain in the ass to see all the related comments.

      Sometimes I scroll through the initial 50 comments and decide I want to read more, but the next 50 are dispersed through the ones I've already seen, forcing me to read back through them all.

      Other times I know I want all the comments from the start, but I have to scroll to the bottom of the page, click the "get more" button, scroll again to the bottom of the page because it auto jumps to the top, click it again, and repeat 10 or 15 times. Annoying as fuck. If there's a better way hidden somewhere already let me know.

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    5. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by eexaa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      +1 insightful, but can't really mod you up without javascript...

    6. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by MechaStreisand · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed. It's basically unusable.

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    7. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by poulbailey · · Score: 2

      I feel the same way. The default mode isn't very good.

    8. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by MikeD83 · · Score: 2

      I will concur on the JavaScript. At work my only option is to use an ancient version of Internet Explorer on Windows XP... the site is unusable. Specifically, you can't use the "slide" that allows more posts to appear.

    9. Re:WORK WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT by evrybodygonsurfin · · Score: 2

      I used to be able to get a view of comments in Times on a white background with no superfluous styling at all. I'd like to be able to get back to that.

  4. Improve Slashdot By Rewinding To What It Grew On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stop hitting the web server on my NAT box for ok.txt every time I post.
    Don't assume that any cookies you set will ever be sent back.
    Don't use referer fields at all, just send straight HTML.
    Don't use all this horrible crashy javascript.

  5. article selection by rish87 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some really terrible articles get through sometimes. Articles from some no-name person's blog that contain no or very few external links to anything to back up the crap put forth on their site.

    1. Re:article selection by Nemyst · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This more than anything else.

      I can live with the sometimes dodgy comment system, the abusable moderation, etc. Honestly, it's not perfect but it's far more palatable than 99% of the systems out there like Disqus or flat comment systems without any moderation.

      However, if article selection keeps dropping, the site WILL die. The quality of the submissions is what makes or breaks a site like Slashdot, and even I feel like it's been declining of late (I'm not usually picky on things and hate people with nostalgia overload). Many articles are submitted by employees of the sites they're posted on and are of dubious value overall, often requiring commenters to give better links. If a paper is covered, good luck finding the actual link to said paper. Many times, summaries are incredibly biased and show that the editors plain and simply did not "edit", they simply took the thing from the firehose, ran a spellcheck (sometimes forgetting that step) and put it up on the main page. I find that unacceptable. If the editors are overloaded, which I would find surprising unless they happen to do a lot more work than is readily apparent, then find more editors. Perhaps implement some sort of election system for junior editors, where unpaid or paid members of the community get promoted to editor status. Anything to raise editing quality. I'd rather have a submission rewritten or denied than have horribly biased or even misleading summaries crop up on the main page.

      Slashdot is one of the few sites where I can expect serious, insightful discussions in the comment threads. I wouldn't want this to die because the submissions stop fuelling said discussions.

    2. Re:article selection by weirdcrashingnoises · · Score: 2

      I'd rather have a submission rewritten or denied than have horribly biased or even misleading summaries crop up on the main page.

      This. My number one complaint about slashdot is all the misleading headlines and summaries.

      I'm not to worried about biased summaries as much, to an extent... after all we're a tech/nerd crowd and if we released certain high-rated-insightful comments out into the general public many (most?) of them would be perceived as "very biased" as well.

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  6. Finally, a meta-thread! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Better quality editing.

    Sounds mean but it has to be said. Some of the stories over the last year or two have had blatant errors in the summary (one was even in the title, about some incident at a nuclear plant), I remember at least a few troll stories that got through, it's shameful. It seems like the posters are often putting more effort into the posts than the editors are putting into the articles.

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    1. Re:Finally, a meta-thread! by loteck · · Score: 5, Informative

      I really enjoy the community and the moderation system on Slashdot. The combination of the 2 are working well together, in my opinion, and I told them that.

      I also lambasted the editors for not editing, for headlines that are downright false, and various other editorial issues. One thing that stops me from suggesting slashdot to my friends is that I never know when some story is going to get posted with completely false information in the headline or summary, with a 100+ comment conversation that ensues about information that isn't even accurate.

      When that happens, and it happens often, it makes the site look foolish and by extension it makes me look foolish for having suggested it. Slashdot needs to tighten up the editorial department, for me that is the single biggest area for improvement on the site. I told them as much.

    2. Re:Finally, a meta-thread! by subreality · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I never know when some story is going to get posted with completely false information in the headline or summary

      This.

      Slashdot is billing itself as "news". I'm tired of reading headlines that are spun or outright lying to maximize nerd rage. You're not doing original reporting here, so the bare minimum is the editors need to RTFA and see if the summary and headline are accurate and from a vaguely credible source. Bonus points if you actually fact-check the articles.

  7. I want at least on professional editor by onyxruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All I want is at least one professional editor. Somebody to do basic things like check for dupes, make sure stories aren't wholesale ripped off, basic fact checking, that kind of thing. This is done by almost every other professional news media site out there, can Slashdot please make this /one/ change?

  8. Read your own goddamned bug tracker? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 4, Informative

    How about you read your own bug tracker and actually fix, or at least respond in some way, to the bugs in it?

  9. What do you dislike? by gQuigs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bad stories. Useless stories. Stories that are identifiable after reading the first couple comments that they are in fact non-stories, trolling, or something like that. Stories should be demote-able, so less of Slashdot need waste their time with them.

  10. I think I speak for us all... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bring back Jon Katz!!!!

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  11. This needs to stop by SteveTauber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Articles shouldn't start like this: "Mr Submitter, with his first accepted submission, writes: [summary]". No one gives a fuck.

    1. Re:This needs to stop by brentrad · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I disagree. It is useful information, that tells us that we may need to be slightly wary of the article - did the article poster sign up for a slashdot account just so they could post an article from their own blog? On the other hand, if someone has posted many articles in the past, from that we can deduce that they're probably not an astroturfer, but instead a real actual slashdot regular.

  12. Tech problems make the site less fun.... by sampson7 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I filled out the survey, but I will share my major concerns here as well. I use IE 7. My company mandates its use and locks things down fairly well. I am a lawyer interested in science and tech policy, but with no actual computer skills (i.e., I programmed a few lines of HTML in my youth, but that's about it).

    Over the past few years, my user experience has gone into the gutter, with very few corresponding benefits. Boxes often overlap, and the whole site freezes on a regular basis. Most other sites are fine.

    As a result, I show up less. Sure, I could read it on my home computer, but eh. What's the point if you can't sit on a conference call while reading?

    1. Re:Tech problems make the site less fun.... by StripedCow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Also, logging in is a disaster.

      It often happens that I'm reading a thread without being logged in, and want to reply to a comment. Then, at that point, of course I have to log in, but slashdot of course jumps back to the front page, and I totally lose the point where I wanted to leave the comment.

      It is so stupid, I sometimes just want to break things in my office.

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  13. Easy by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More poines.

    Oh, and more selection on the moderation. -1 Insane and +1 Really Insane and -1 Fanbois and +1 Well Played, Sir

    1. Re:Easy by shoehornjob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      +1 Well Played, Sir

      definitely well played sir.

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    2. Re:Easy by Issarlk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also +1 Troll and I don't know about poines but ponies would be neat.

    3. Re:Easy by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Insightful

      +1 Brohoof

    4. Re:Easy by afidel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      -1 Wrong would be the one I most want, when someone is factually wrong there isn't a good moderation for that except for the catchall overrated.

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  14. SEARCH!!!! by sconeu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The search function completely sucks. If I'm looking for a comment that I *KNOW* was posted in an story, but can't remember the story, good freaking luck finding it.

    I usually wind up with better results by using google ("search text" +site:slashdot.org).

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  15. Slow preview progress circle by Issarlk · · Score: 4, Informative

    In 2011 we shouldn't have to wait 10 seconds after hitting preview for our less than 1kb of text to be checked and displayed back.

  16. A Few Things by nwf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In addition to the moderation / meta-moderation issues noted (confirmation bias anyone?) Changes over the past year have made reading /. on a mobile device (e.g. iPhone) almost impossible. Page loads take forever and it must be trying to calculate pi to 1 billion places for each page load. Plus, clicking a collapsed story to show it will scroll to the top. That's stupid. The "More" links are lame, too. You can keep clicking "more" to get more stories (since it only displays like 5), but when you go into a story to read comments and then come out, all your extra stories are gone. A simple "next page" feature would be far more useful. AJAX is all fine, but /. abuses it to the point where it detracts from site functionality.

    Oh, and more stories about ponies.

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    1. Re:A Few Things by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 2

      It's totally unusable on an Android phone. All the comments are hidden and I can't figure out how to move the threshold bar with a touch screen.

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  17. Edit your posts by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Being able to edit/delete your posts would be favorite. Yeah I know there's the preview button but often mistakes can slip through a quick proof-read. For a further example, look at how many actual submission titles/commentaries are riddled with spelling and grammatical errors... Now imagine the comments.

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    1. Re:Edit your posts by Bucky24 · · Score: 2

      Honestly I'm not sure that's the greatest idea. Sure it could keep us from making stupid mistakes, but it could also lead to abuse of the system. I see this on facebook a lot, where people will post something, someone else will refute them, they'll get into an argument, then one person will just remove all their comments and the second person looks like they're crazy.

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    2. Re:Edit your posts by ideonexus · · Score: 2

      Hear! Hear! Just today I submitted a post titled "Did Alternative Medicine Contribute to Steve Jobs' Death?" I previewed the post, the text of the body looked fine, I hit submit and the title became "Did Alternative Medicine Contribute to Steve Jobs'". WTF??? Maybe the title change appeared in the preview, but I was too busy scrutinizing the body of the post. I cringed, considered resubmitting the post, but decided to skulk away. Nobody's gonna read that.

      I will hand it to the editors though, they have refactored my writing to sound much better at times and provided more logical text-linking when my submissions do make the front page.

      Me talk pretty one day.

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  18. All comments by Telvin_3d · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I want an option to automatically load all the comments on an article. not 250 at a time, everything. Every time. Automatically.

  19. Re: disagree, but Mod Parent Up by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

    Actually I have a somewhat tongue-in-cheek way to help the bias problem.

    Add an actual moderation option "-1 disagree". Have this only lower the post for the moderator himself, and secretly subtract karma from the moderator. Eventually disagreers will no longer be able to moderate. Problem solved.

    And to elaborate... bias isn't a problem with the moderation system, it is a problem with human nature. A way to filter that out would be helpful, but I am not sure how.

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  20. biggest problem by cornface · · Score: 2

    There will be ten firehose entries for the same article. They will sit unposted for days, and then when it finally hits the frontpage it is from the same five people who always get articles posted, the worst link, the worst summary, and often through a spammy blog instead of the source.

    I was happy when the firehose opened up. I thought it would help out a lot. Instead it is just like a cruel joke seeing what could have been posted instead of what did get posted.

    The sad thing is you could move slashdot to a sub-reddit on reddit.com, possibly one of the worst sites on the internet, and it would be an improvement. For something masquerading as a technology site, the current setup is just embarrassing.

  21. More mod options by sjbe · · Score: 2

    Oh, and more selection on the moderation. -1 Insane and +1 Really Insane and -1 Fanbois and +1 Well Played, Sir

    +1 Well Played, Sir.

    I'd add: -1 Inaccurate, -1 Misleading, -1 Citation Needed, +1 Citation Provided, -1 Whoosh!

  22. Re:Moderations for "wrong" needed by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    You post. Posting has more effect than moderation anyway. Most of us don't get all excited about the number, and the ones that do, well, they're all Apple fanbois anyway...

    We also need emoticons. Really.

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  23. There's nothing particularly wrong with Slashdot by guanxi · · Score: 2

    Slashdot works very well. I don't see any problems requiring a major change. Is this a solution (e.g., an editors' ambitions to leave their mark) looking for a problem?

  24. a working survey would help by RobertLTux · · Score: 2

    1 esp for those that have "classic"/D1 style selected DO NOT ADD TEST STUFF (D1 was selected for a reason)
    2 have a -5 (oblivion) rating where you have to have N!^2 mod downs to reach it (you have to be down modded from 0 55 times to reach -5(oblivion)) then if you draw a posting with that rating 1 your ip is banned for 24 hours 2 after your ban you are limited to posting once a day (with an ip block check)
    3 add a function to mod POSTERS/Editors (they get blocked for a week if they reach -1 moderation)

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  25. Temporal Displacement of Comments by Rotag_FU · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the things that I find disappointing is that probably the single largest factor in terms of whether a comment is promoted or demoted is the time after the post hits the main page. It is extremely common to see average posts (i.e. limited informational or insightful quantity/quality) rated very highly (probably too highly) simply because they are submitted shortly (within 1-2 hours, often much less) after the parent post hits the main page. Conversely, insanely high quality posts (i.e. those with tons of useful information or insight) that are submitted after the magic window either do not get voted up or are only voted up to a minor degree.

    I understand why this occurs. A large influx of people are reading the comments shortly after the post and then there is an exponential decay afterwards. The result is that high quality and deserving posts do not get voted up since fewer and fewer people with mod points see them. It is completely understandable, however I think addressing this would have a significant positive impact. I know there have often been times that I would not post simply because I figured it was too late and practically no-one would read the comment so why bother. Unfortunately, I do not know how to solve this problem, just that it is real.

    I do realize that the meta-moderation system does have some limited impact here, but I think it is too limited to be effective.

    1. Re:Temporal Displacement of Comments by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, I do not know how to solve this problem, just that it is real.

      The moderation system needs an overhaul to fix this problem.

      Today, you'll get 15 points to use over the next several days. So, you'll use them as you read normally. Most people go for the newer stuff, so the moderation pattern follows.

      To fix your problem, Slashcode would need to award targeted moderation points to people reading the articles after the magic window. They might only be valid for that one article, for instance.

      The moderation system was a great idea when it was introduced, but here were are, what 12 years later, and improvements have never been made based on learned experience. I'm hopeful the new blood is going to help, and so far that seems like the direction it's going.

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  26. Mod Type Filter by mugnyte · · Score: 2

    If there a filter for mod types? Sometimes I just want to see the Funny.

  27. +1,000,000 by DragonHawk · · Score: 2

    If classic mode is ever disabled I will never visit again. I cannot stand the default mode.

    I have mod points but you're already at 5. They should remove the cap on just this one comment so it can go to a million.

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  28. Problems with Bio and Physics editing by Guppy · · Score: 2

    While tech articles are frequently ok, I've noticed life-science and physics stories especially have this problem. Often they feature sensationalist pieces trying to fluff up absolute garbage. The editors and story-submitters seem to have just enough background in the field to recognize the buzzwords and take the bait; not enough to render good judgement or comment in the header insightfully (in other words, too incompetent to realize how incompetent they are).

    Firehose /moderation doesn't help as much as one might think -- from the comments it's clear this site is full of sharp comp/tech folks, but doesn't quite have nearly enough experienced bio/physics people to balance the discussion.

  29. Re:No FACEBOOK login by couchslug · · Score: 2

    "You might consider adding avatars / gravatars next to people's comments."

    Useless decoration. Have an option to disable.
     

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  30. Slasdot needs... by blahplusplus · · Score: 2

    ... a trusted users system. I know people on slashdot that are intelligent and have reasonable judgement we really need these people to float to the top and given more weight. Trying to test out new systems to have these people float to the top would be nice. Politics usually seems to be slashdots worse subject - you get all sorts of nonsense in posts that are mere repeats of mainstream media talking points that are often false and misleading.

  31. Skins by grrrl · · Score: 2

    I'd like a slashdot skin that looks like, say, eclipse, so I can read at work in way that isn't 100% obvious from the complete opposite side of the room (no privacy in this office).

    =D

  32. Excellent point! by bradley13 · · Score: 2

    If someone can really contribute to an issue, and takes the time to write a thoughtful post, complete with sources. By the time they are finished, the "magic window" has often passed, and their post never gets up-voted... I rarely make substantive comments any more, for exacty this reason: I know that the investment of time required to make a real contribution to the discussion means precisely that the comment will not be seen by most people.

    How to fix this? That's hard...

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