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Reader TheodoreQSwiss breaks onto the page with this question: "The independent school where I serve as Dir. of Technology is in the middle of reworking their employee handbooks and would like to include a section on ownership of the intellectual property produced by employees of the school while doing work for the school. Ideally, both the school and the creator(s) would be able to retain rights to the use of the product. Do you have any recommendations on licenses that would support both parties involved?"

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  1. ask a attorney or the school legal contact by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    ask a attorney or the school legal contact.

    1. Re:ask a attorney or the school legal contact by rtfa-troll · · Score: 2

      Attourney's cool useful and all that. However, you probably want to have a vision of what you want to achieve. The right attourney will then be able to help you do it.

      Schools should be about developing and spreading open knowledge. Things like the CC-BY-SA and AGPLv3 licenses are probably very suitable for this. However, in some areas you will find that you want to collaborate with others. You will want flexibility to change from the default when required.

      On the other hand, look at the story of NCSA Mosaic, where NCSA invented the web browser but then was forced out of the market by closed systems such as Netscape and Microsoft Internet Explorer. Insisting on a strong copyleft license is quite important to ensuring that future derivatives of the work continue to be fully accessible to your school.

      Probably what you would want to do is allow CC-SA-BY for texts and AGPLv3 for software by default and allow other licenses as agreed exceptions.

      Your lawyer can now tell you how to make an agreement between the School and it's employees which will support that aim.

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  2. Re:The School owns it, generally by gandhi_2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And what of the tax-payers who funded it?

    If you created it while on the clock for the public, the public should own it.

  3. Re:First CC! by Roger_Wilco · · Score: 2

    Creative Commons *is* a copyright license.

    This is how you copyright a work: write it. Done!

    Now no one can distribute it without your permission (except as allowed by fair use). You can give them permission to use it in certain ways using a new or pre-existing license, like CC (or GPL). There is no "conflict" between copyright and creative commons; quite the contrary, CC depends on (C). The GPL does too, as RMS has pointed out more than a few times.

  4. Creative Commons Licenses by chato · · Score: 2

    If you think big money can be made for the school and the creators by selling copies of this work (which is often NOT the case), then my recommendation would be to have the school be the copyright owner (it will be by default given that its employees are doing a work-for-hire), that the school enters with the employees a contract for sharing the royalties (meaning that e.g. if the school sells the rights for printing a book, it will give a certain fraction of the royalties to the author), and that the school releases the work under a Creative Commons Non-Commercial (CC-BY-NC) license.

    If, on the contrary, you believe no one will make much money by selling this work, then you can have the author release the work under a Creative Commons (CC-BY) license indicating that the attribution should be given to both the creator and the school. This will allow wide dissemination of the work, will allow others to build upon it, will prevent others from making profit at your expense (someone can print and sell copies, but anyone else can do it, so if copies are sold that would be at near-cost prices), and will make sure the employee and the school get due credit.

  5. The handbook comes later by AmElder · · Score: 2

    There's a legal question here and an administrative one. Either way, this isn't a decision to be made and announced through the employee handbook. It's great though how you set out just to write a bit of documentation and you end up in a legal a philosophical minefield.

    The legal question is who has the right of ownership over intellectual property, such as lesson plans, that teachers produce or use on the job. I imagine the precedents vary by your jurisdiction. Your school should look it up. The way you phrase the question, it sounds as if there aren't any explicit provisions in the teacher contracts that establish who owns what. Maybe it's time for the school to include a clause in the contract that makes the expectations and the legal situation clear.

    But really the more important issue is that, again from the way you phrase your question, it sounds as if the school administration seems to expect to dictate terms of intellectual property ownership to its teachers. Regardless of whether they have the legal right to do that, it's just plain bad policy, a great way to pick an unnecessary fight. The administration should do what you're doing now, do some research and decide on a good model for a policy. Then they should bring the issue up at a faculty meeting, ask faculty what they want, give them a chance to go away and read about it, and then come back with their own proposal. Ideally, if you've got good administrators (sounds like they/you have good will, at least) who can negotiate well with faculty based on interests and not positions, then everyone leaves the room happy.

    The wrong way to do it is for you, the Director of Technology, to make the decision, present it to the rest of the administration who accept it by default because they don't have any better ideas, and let the faculty know who owns their lesson plans by putting a handbook in their mailboxes at the start of the next term. The value of the intellectual property is either too small to be worth alienating employees or too valuable to approach sloppily.

    The usual disclaimers: I'm not a lawyer or a teacher.

  6. Re:Public Domain? by xlr8ed · · Score: 2

    The second word should help you out....""The independent school"

  7. Wrong question - contract trumps copyright by gilgongo · · Score: 2

    If students sign a contract with the school to say that both parties assign full rights to one another in works that they create, then it doesn't matter what copyright law says. Contract trumps copyright. That's how the music industry works, for one thing.

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  8. Obviously GPL by houghi · · Score: 2

    Not only does the school AND the creators retain the rights to use the product, but so would anybody else. Other schools can then benefit and you can benefit from their input.
    As an added bonus, nobody will be able to take away your rights to use it.

    Unless your core business is selling software (not software related business) it should be the only option.

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