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US Blocks Huawei From Building LTE Network
An anonymous reader writes "The U.S. government has cited national security as a reason not to let Chinese company Huawei build an LTE public safety network. They're worried about Huawei's close ties to the Chinese government and the threat of any devices Huawei manufactures being bugged. Of course, whoever gets the contract is going to be manufacturing their devices in China anyway, but it looks like a Chinese company won't be allowed to deploy the infrastructure."
... for advertising with a lot of important and big customers' "success stories" (such as TGV) that were in fact never real customers of Huawei/were never worth a success story. Guess they really are trying hard to set foot 'here'. (http://www.automatiseringgids.nl/nieuws/2011/41/%E2%80%98huawei-jokt-over-europese-klanten%E2%80%99)
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/tinfoil hat
Would be "The Fed wants to maintain its monopoly on cellphone snooping".
Makes you wonder sometimes why the US gets so suspicions of other nations some times! You need to look at an accusation sometimes and figure out if this is telling you more about the accuser than the accused!
Good, then it will be harder from them to copy them.
Even if we assume they're both tainted with devious Chinese spyware (and I'm not sure that China would want to harm such a huge and valuable debtor, by the way) which of these sounds like a bigger threat:
1. A large Chinese-built wireless network which the government can monitor or shut down with relative ease.
2. A vast semi-regulated sea of Chinese-built devices of all kinds flowing into the US, too many to be effectively controlled or destroyed, many of them used by emergency and government workers.
Come on, people. Maybe China is a threat to us and maybe it isn't, but if there's a problem, at least attack it in a logical way.
We're worried about the Chinese (perhaps understandably), but we can't prevent our own companies from interfering with the military?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LightSquared#Interference_issues
I swear they give me mod points to shut me up.
it's ok for the U.S. govt to *actually* have warrantless wiretapping, but it's not ok to have china *maybe* doing warrantless wiretapping?
Under US laws? Yes.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
Difference is, Huawei notoriously counterfeited hardware for years. Highest profile example was Huawei v Cisco, Huawei basically ripped off the hardware and the software 1:1, hex edited their name on to the OS. Huawei does not deserve to be in our market at all.
How did you get modded up? If we do wiretapping of telecom networks ESP. SECURED networks, in another nation, that would be called .... SPYING. And NO nation sees that as being legal.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
I've dealt with Huwei wireless gear on and off and have constantly found it to be absolutely awful. That is unless you expect things like 3G data adapters to tweak out after 5 minutes because they overheat or IP Phone boxes that drop connections like it's a sport. Seriously, I'd trust tin cans and string with my life before a Huwei product.
Duh? You believe the Chinese government would voluntarily allow the us government to spy on its country?
It would have been more diplomatic for the U.S. to have stated that Huawei was denied because of its "Convection" to a prior "cost cutting" business model. Also, I believe that there is a requirement for products that are used for Emergency or Military Communications to be manufactured in the U.S.. Not all things, but definitely Communication Package Systems. In that case, anyone outside the U.S. gets a "red flag" regardless of nationality. From a global point of view, Huawei can peddle its comm. gear anywhere on the planet. And from a U.S. perspective, U.S. Trade Balances are so far in the "red" that saying, "no" to other venders outside the U.S. is a help to those of us in the U.S. that can't swap sovereign boundaries like, um, a Bidet.
The intelligence services of a few countries have found ties between Huawei and the Chinese military and intelligence services. Currently, the Chinese are the biggest spy threat to the US. Not allowing this company to build our communications infrastructure sounds like a reasonable, safe decision.
"costs to feed and transport this border protection force would be on the scale of a major war."
Given just the cost of transporting fuel in Afghanistan moving the troops there to the Mexican border would probably be on the scale of a minor police action and not a major war.
Move some bases down there and do boot camp on the border.
Tunnels can be detected (to a point where they'd have to dig too deep to be practical) if anyone bothers to put the devices and manpower in and flights over the border would make for cheap gunnery practice.
As for people starving, NPR interviewed a tomato farmer all upset that his illegals were fleeing some new laws, illegals that had skills the local work force lacks, hmm, sounds like the job for a work visa, of course, they wouldn't be cheap illegals then.
In England, we're actually encouraging them into our 4G networks:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/10/cornish_lte/
after stuxnet? :)
Totally feasible, would slashdot feel better if they were excluding muslims rather than the Chinese? :)
Moving goods/people to AK and through Canada back to the US wouldn't be cheap for the ne'er-do-wells either.
Don't need to lock down the entirety of the borders, just the ones profitable enough to violate. Alaska would work much like the bulk of Russia, let the land itself be the defenses.
We seem to be up for supporting multiple foreign fronts in under developed areas. Pull the bulk of the troops out of foreign theaters and what standing army we have can be standing in Roman style border posts.
And at the time it was true of the Japanese products. And before that it was the Germans supplying the low-quality junk products. Today it's China, and tomorrow it will be someone else.
Also show me evidence of governmental espionage through Huawei's products. I kept hearing accusations against Huawei for years due to prejudice.
2000: I accuse you for stealing! ... um a thief!
2001: I accuse you because of the earlier accusations in 2000!
2002: I accuse you because of what the other guys say in 2001!
2003: I accuse you because you are
There is no stealing at all. Just a total paranoa.