Swedish Court Finalizes Jail Sentence For Pirate Bay Co-Founder

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Swedish Court Finalizes Jail Sentence For Pirate Bay Co-Founder

Posted by Soulskill on Friday October 14, 2011 @05:47AM from the yes-he-looks-very-dangerous dept.

Mightee sends in this excerpt from TorrentFreak: "The Stockholm District Court sentence against Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Svartholm was finalized today after he failed to appear at the Court of Appeal. Svartholm, also known as Anakata online, did not appear at the appeal trial last year because he was hospitalized in Cambodia and later went missing. The Court of Appeal has now decided to finalize the initial verdict of one year jail time and a fine of $1.1 million."

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...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 05:49 · Score: 0

You run a (profitable) torrent tracker and you take vacations in third-world asian countries?
1. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by amazon10x · 2011-10-14 05:52 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  I don't think they got rich off of TPB.
  "In an investigation in 2006, the police concluded that The Pirate Bay brings in 1.2 million SEK (US$168,885.60) per year from advertisements."
  "In the 2009 trial, the defense estimated the site's yearly expenses to be 800,000 SEK (US$112,590.40)"
2. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 05:52 · Score: 1
  
  Probably went to score some hot ladyboy action.
3. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by icebike · 2011-10-14 05:54 · Score: 1
  
  Why not?
  Its out of the reach of Sweden, and internet close to anywhere.
  
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4. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 05:59 · Score: 0
  
  Or became one
5. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:10 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  Pirate Bay was a lot smaller in 2006 and they had mostly adult ads, not the type of ads they have now. They also didn't employ as good shell company structure with their Seychelles company as they do now.
  
  The income with torrent sites is currently around $50 per 1000 unique visitors, mostly from toolbar (those "download from fast server now"), usenet and vpn provider ads. TPB currently has global Alexa rank #84. Quantcast currently estimates TPB gets 200k unique visitors per day, and that is only US traffic. They get huge amount of traffic everywhere from the world. But just from that US traffic alone, TPB probably makes around 200000*(50/1000) = $10 000 per day.
  
  That translates to $3 650 000 per year, almost four million dollars. And then you also have to add traffic and income from all the other countries apart from US, which probably brings the income close to ten million dollars a year.
  
  Posted anonymously because I have also ran a torrent site. That means, I also know the kind of income such get from ads.
6. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Synerg1y · 2011-10-14 06:10 · Score: 1
  
  There are many ways to start a new life somewhere else though, web admins can work from anywhere with a wire to the www and make money. The whole case is BS though since piratebay is still up and running, what are they trying to prove here? That they can sentence people whenever they feel like it?
  I love how when the courts get bad PR, nothing happens, when a company gets bad PR they go out of business. HMMMM
7. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Tsingi · 2011-10-14 06:10 · Score: 2
  
  I haven't seen him in any of the bars.
8. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by gstoddart · 2011-10-14 06:20 · Score: 1
  
  You run a (profitable) torrent tracker and you take vacations in third-world asian countries?
  Maybe he wanted to see Angkor Wat, maybe he wanted to see unspoiled jungles, maybe because the Cambodian people are really friendly, or because he wanted to try the food and experience the culture.
  There are plenty of good reasons why people vacation in south-east Asia (and, admittedly, some shady ones). I've known lots of people who have been to Thailand and Cambodia and Vietnam for vacations ... I'm just not willing to fly that far.
  Hell, my next vacation is going to be in Cuba ... because it's affordable, and incredibly safe, the people are friendly and the weather is awesome. The most enjoyable and relaxing week of my entire year.
  
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9. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Weezul · 2011-10-14 06:22 · Score: 1
  
  I donno why he moved there, bust most like he's missing because the MafiAA simply put a hit out on him. It's nice they waited till he moved outside civilized legal systems.
  
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10. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Moheeheeko · 2011-10-14 06:24 · Score: 2
  
  Maybe he just REALLY liked Dead Kennedys
11. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:27 · Score: 0
  
  and incredibly safe
  No, it's not. Last time I was there (cooperation project from my government, a company I used to work was a contractor) a boy grabbed-and-run my boss' Nikon camera. Quite a few time people offered to "exchange" some of my personal items (running sneakers, iPod) for other items, some of the offers were done more like a threat than as a offer. I must admit I ventured a little outside of the Havana usual tourist path.
  Might be safe if you stay inside a resort, but anywhere else is then.
  And people were no more friendly than other places in Latin America. Poor people are often friendly. As someone who grew up in a piss poor country, I just fucking hate friendly people.
12. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Capt.DrumkenBum · 2011-10-14 06:40 · Score: 0
  
  Hell, my next vacation is going to be in Cuba ... because it's affordable, and incredibly safe, the people are friendly and the weather is awesome.
  Added bonus #1. It pisses off Americans because they can't go there.
  Added bonus #2. No Americans.
  Excuse me while I call my travel agent.
  
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13. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:48 · Score: 0
  
  And people were no more friendly than other places in Latin America. Poor people are often friendly. As someone who grew up in a piss poor country, I just fucking hate friendly people.
  can't agree more with this.
14. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by SuricouRaven · 2011-10-14 06:50 · Score: 2
  
  Basic intimidation. It's the standard way to enforce a law when there are far too many violators to prosecute even a tiny fraction. Pick a few prominent examples, and then utterly destroy their lives. That will serve to scare many of the others straight.
15. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by SuricouRaven · 2011-10-14 06:51 · Score: 1
  
  Not their style. They don't break the law - they are just experts in using the law to their own advantage. They won't break their own rules.
16. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by LordLimecat · 2011-10-14 07:01 · Score: 1
  
  Its not capitalist, which apparently is a huge draw for many.
  One might wonder that more people havent flocked there, actually. Oh wait, I know why.
17. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 07:02 · Score: 0
  
  That translates to $3 650 000 per year, almost four million dollars.
  $3.65M is not "almost four million dollars".
18. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Elbereth · 2011-10-14 07:09 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  It's very nearly almost four million dollars, though.
19. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by El_Muerte_TDS · 2011-10-14 07:19 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  I ran those numbers by my Hollywood based accountant, and his calculations resulted in a net loss of about $3000 a day.
20. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · 2011-10-14 07:21 · Score: 1
  
  Hell, my next vacation is going to be in Cuba ... because it's affordable, and incredibly safe, the people are friendly and the weather is awesome.
  Added bonus #1. It pisses off Americans because they can't go there. Added bonus #2. No Americans. Excuse me while I call my travel agent.
  As an American who has been to Cuba I can tell you that bonus #1 isn't necessarily true. As for bonus #2, the United States hardly has a monopoly on obnoxious tourists. Last time I was in Cairo a series of Greek tourists were being kicked out for using the museum as their personal climbing wall, and outside a group of Japanese tourists asked to take my picture confusing me (and my olive complexion) as an Egyptian.
  
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21. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by TechLA · 2011-10-14 07:39 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Yep, Cambodia isn't really that safe. It's much safer in Thailand for example. However, I go to Cambodia 3-4 times a year to renew my Thai visa and stay there a couple a weeks, but it always feels kind of unsafe. And last time I was there hundreds of people died on that Phnom Penhs bridge when it got too crowded. If you have to go to hospital, you really don't want to go to Cambodian hospital anyway - every foreigner should try to get to either to Thailand or Singapore in that case, and it's touted everywhere on the web. This is also why I don't think the TPB admin really had to go to hospital.
22. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 07:39 · Score: 0
  
  It's what people say when Americans are banned from visiting.
23. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by jgtg32a · 2011-10-14 07:41 · Score: 1
  
  Buying Lobster dinners for $1?
24. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Killjoy_NL · 2011-10-14 07:44 · Score: 1
  
  I wouldn't put it past them though.
  
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25. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Skarecrow77 · 2011-10-14 07:46 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  It is most definitely not quite four million.
26. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Skarecrow77 · 2011-10-14 07:51 · Score: 0, Troll
  
  That's the good thing about America, we don't need to leave here unless we really want to, we've already got pretty much everything here. Cubans? we've got those. They're in Miami. Iranians? (scuse me, "Persians"), we've got those all over the place. I grew up down the street from two Persian families. Russians? Mexicans? Vietnamese? Sure! Any please in the world that its' not really "safe" (well, for an american) to travel to, we've already got them here, and chances are that there's a major metropolitan area with a section devoted to any given ethnicity.
27. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Coldmoon · 2011-10-14 07:57 · Score: 2
  
  Basic intimidation. It's the standard way to enforce a law when there are far too many violators to prosecute even a tiny fraction. ...
  And that worked out so well during prohibition now didn't it...?
  
  All this does is breed contempt for the law which is evident from both your take on this and the revenue TPB is supposedly getting. When you try to regulate a natural human activity that has been with us since the age of caves or even earlier, you should expect to be both ignored and ridiculed.
  
  And as far as the average US citizen is concerned, you run into good old fashion orneriness where those who would not even have cared about the topic will simply do it just to thumb their noses at the stupidity...
  
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28. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by migla · 2011-10-14 08:22 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  If the founder in question here was making huge numbers off TPB a few years ago (2008, maybe), it didn't show in his wardrobe, hairstyle or choice of place to crash or his mode of transportation.
  I saw him staying with friends in one of the socio-economically crappiest suburbs of Stockholm and taking the subway wherever he was going.
  I'm not saying he wasn't a millionaire, but if he was, it was like some character said in some (iirc) Tzingiz Aitmatov story:
  "I'm just a poor person with lots of money".
  I think this person is a principled person. I might be wrong, but this is the vibe I got from happening to pass him by on the street a few years ago.
  
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29. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by migla · 2011-10-14 08:42 · Score: 2
  
  I'll just go ahead and reply to myself regarding possible ambiguities in my above post:
  By the comparison to the Aitmatov (?) quote, I didn't mean to imply that he came from a poor background, because I don't know about that and since his name is actually Donald Duckishly aristocratic to a swede. What I meant was that I felt he is (or at least was) true to his ... roots as an information freedom-fighter.
  Also, I didn't just happen by him once, but a few times - on the streets of the "ghetto" (as far as we have them) and on the u-bahn.
  Anyway. Histories of current persons in bodies, while perhaps titillating, are not more important than the ideas they put forth. So, you know, whatever.
  
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30. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Synerg1y · 2011-10-14 08:48 · Score: 1
  
  There is an underlying problem to all this...
  when I buy an album, almost no money goes to the person actually making the music. The money goes to the RIAA who are the ones prosecuting people with that same money. Etc, we've all heard this before.
  I'm dead serious though, if the artist made the money, and cds didn't cost $15 a pop (adds up very quick when u want new music, currently at the rate the artists typically make off the media, I can buy enough to last me years for $15 TOTAL), I would consider not supporting what TPB is doing, but since a bunch of assholes in suites who don't know how to play a musical instrument or have any talent are mooching off the industries, TPB has not only survived, it's thriving and the DNS nowadays is pretty hard to get at from my understanding.
31. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 08:49 · Score: 0
  
  I just came back from Cuba 3 weeks ago -first time I visited.
  a) It's not affordable. It's ridiculously expensive compared to pretty much any other third world country, specially considering the crap you're getting -that includes the horrible, horrible food.
  b) It's not safe. Granted, you won't get shot, but each and every Cuban is out to con you.
  c) People are simply not friendly. They actually have that distinct "uncivilized" attitude people from all communist countries get. It's a "I can't get fired, so complain all you want about my bad service" attitude.
  d) The weather is also awesome in Cancun, Bahamas, Jamaica, Dominicana, and other 10,000 places in the world.
  Seriously, it's not a good country to visit, even for a 1 week vacation. Do yourself a favor and don't go. Added bonus is that you don't support a dictator that has been in power since forever.
32. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by TechLA · 2011-10-14 08:54 · Score: 1
  
  It doesn't go to RIAA, it goes to record labels. Those record labels who supported and lend money to the artists to make and record their songs, supported them, advertised them and handled distribution for them. Of course the record label needs to get it's investment back, otherwise they would go bankrupt.
33. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Weezul · 2011-10-14 08:57 · Score: 2
  
  Umm, they frequently break copyright law!
  
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34. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 09:01 · Score: 1
  
  I just took a look at TPB and all I see is low quality filler ads all from the same agency (z5x.net). I can't realistically see them making more than around $0.02 / 1000 page views from those kinds of ads.
  Also, I run a site with alexa rank a little over 10,000 which gets just under 3 million page views and around 100,000 uniques a day, so I doubt TPB gets anywhere close to the guess provided by Quantcast.
  Anyway, if you were making the insanely good ad rates you are suggesting, post links to the advertiser sites -- I am looking for better advertisers.
35. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 09:01 · Score: 0
  
  I am sure that the native americans were saying exactly the same before your ancestors stole their land and exterminated most of them.
36. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by pspahn · 2011-10-14 09:02 · Score: 1
  
  It pisses off Americans because they can't go there.
  Why go to Cuba when you can go to The Dominican, Jamaica, or for that matter pretty much any other Caribbean island?
  
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37. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 09:20 · Score: 1
  
  That's because you're failing to see what actually ads. Take a look at the torrent details pages. The big download button is an advertisement to a toolbar that pays $1-2 per install, and many users install those (either because they're clueless or just otherwise). There's also another "advertisement" to their tube site that is filled with all kinds of ads. That's their main source of income, not those z5x.net ads. Besides, even for those ads the CPM is $2-3 per 1000 page views.
38. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by migla · 2011-10-14 09:27 · Score: 1
  
  You may or may not be under the misconception that we don't also have lot's of people from all over here in Sweden (as an example).
  The ratios of coordinates at which nearby persons parents (or parents parents and so on) initiated their chains of chemical reactions that resulted in the hominidae that are you and me and those around us may differ significantly (like I don't think I've met a Cuban in my hood), but this particular suburb of Stockholm, Sweden is very much diverse. Surely 100 or 150 plus national origins. Only about 15-20 or something % white traditional "Swedes", though.
  Majority/minority culture is interesting. They/we as whites/cityslickers/Americans don't know about the plight of colored/hicks/anyone.
  I'll just go ahead and end this comment right about here.
  
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39. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 09:47 · Score: 0
  
  The toolbar site doesn't have any useful information, just a download which is why I requested information on such affiliate programs.
  As for z5x, I've never seen ads of that quality pay more than pennies eCPM.
40. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Capt.DrumkenBum · 2011-10-14 09:48 · Score: 1
  
  See point #2
  
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41. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by C0R1D4N · 2011-10-14 10:04 · Score: 1
  
  Find one nation in the world that didn't do that sort of shit
42. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 10:12 · Score: 0
  
  It seems to be Zugo which distributes various toolbar components, including Bing and others. I know Bing pays up to $2 for their toolbar, and since they bundle others too they probably get even more. Google seems to have lots of malware results when you search about them and the domain used for TPB toolbar (both the landing page and the domain where exe actually comes from)
43. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by pspahn · 2011-10-14 10:27 · Score: 1
  
  You're not following...
  Why would an American get pissed about not being "allowed" to go somewhere that has perfectly acceptable alternatives?
  Because they're no Americans there? That's like saying, "You know what sucks about not eating Mac and Cheese? The fact that if you don't eat it, you can't complain about how bad it tastes."
  If all you wanted to do was vacation in places where there are no Americans, why not just go to certain neighborhoods in South Florida? Or Texas? Or California?
  
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44. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by sixsixtysix · 2011-10-14 11:09 · Score: 2
  
  the same labels that then deduct those costs from the artists' already small piece of the pie?
  really, for a $15 cd, the people that created it should be getting at least $5.
  
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45. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by TapeCutter · 2011-10-14 11:41 · Score: 1
  
  You run a (profitable) torrent tracker and you take vacations in third-world asian countries?
  Despite Pol Pot, the carpet bombing, and agent orange of the 70's, Cambodia is still a beautiful country where nowadays a millionaire can afford to live like a billionaire.
  
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46. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by TechLA · 2011-10-14 12:41 · Score: 1
  
  Well, it's up to them to make the contracts and not us on slashdot, isn't it? It's not like anyone forces them to join a label. They can choose.
47. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 13:05 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, yes. "Choice," etcetera. It's up to people not to sign contracts that make them into complete slaves. Oh, wait, that's illegal in some (I'd say most) countries. Yes, you can't give up everything by signing a contract, and the government can make some things unenforceable or illegal.
48. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 16:30 · Score: 0
  
  And that suddenly makes it good? Besides, there are many nations in the world that did not resort to genocide to expand. Note I am not talking about war, but genocide. You should do some research.
49. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by sourcerror · 2011-10-14 20:14 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah sightseeing in chinatown. Sounds reeeally fun ...
50. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Xest · 2011-10-15 00:17 · Score: 1
  
  You're thinking of Thailand.
  Cambodia is where you go for kids. Ask Gary Glitter.
51. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Raenex · 2011-10-15 03:11 · Score: 1
  
  If the founder in question here was making huge numbers off TPB a few years ago (2008, maybe), it didn't show in his wardrobe, hairstyle or choice of place to crash or his mode of transportation.
  Maybe he was just playing it smart by not flaunting his money. Either that, or he was dumb and got screwed out of the money somebody else was making. There's no way Pirate Bay wasn't raking in the cash given all their views.
52. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by WNight · 2011-10-15 08:04 · Score: 2
  
  Well, only the ridiculous and useless laws.
53. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by 0111+1110 · 2011-10-15 08:45 · Score: 1
  
  Why go to Cuba when you can go to The Dominican, Jamaica, or for that matter pretty much any other Caribbean island?
  But if he did go to one of those places you'd be asking him the same question. There's no particular reason *not* to go to Cuba. It's a big Caribbean island with its own unique culture. For an American it also has the extra plus of being forbidden by our insane government. Forbidden fruit is always sweeter. It's also the only place in the world that I know of where an ugly geek can rent/lease a girlfriend. At least you used to be able to. You can't even do that in Thailand. There are also not many better places to drink rum and dance, if you are into that sort of thing. Although I think Cuban rum is overrated. It also used to be very safe. Over the past decade it has become less and less safe as the younger generation, weaned on violent American films, has come of age.
  
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54. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by 0111+1110 · 2011-10-15 08:57 · Score: 1
  
  Why would an American get pissed about not being "allowed" to go somewhere that has perfectly acceptable alternatives?
  Have you ever been to Cuba? What would you consider an alternative?
  
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  Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
55. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by 0111+1110 · 2011-10-15 09:27 · Score: 1
  
  a) demonstrably false
  b) true
  c) Actually they are quite friendly, but only in a shallow, looking-for-a-chance-to-rip-you-off friendly. Many people don't see through the false surface friendliness however until they get burned. Of course once you actually live there you can make real friendly like anywhere else. Just never talk to anyone who approaches you first.
  d) Agreed. There is nothing special about the weather. It's the culture that is special, or rather, unique. Not in a good or bad way. Just different. Especially from the places you mention.
  BTW, Fidel has been out of office for years now. His brother Raul has been at the helm. Not that much has changed.
  
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56. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by cynyr · 2011-10-16 02:12 · Score: 1
  
  explain to me how to get a CD on a shelf at walmart with out being on a big label? how about target? sam goody(do those still exist?)?
  
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57. Re:...What was he doing in Cambodia? by Synerg1y · 2011-10-17 05:15 · Score: 1
  
  It might seem absurd to you, but why should the RIAA get a 90% cut for this? They are clearly being a middle man rather than a productive entity, some artists start their own record labels and go that route, they manage to get onto Wal-Mart shelves - the RIAA. What if the system changed enough where an artist can sign a contract to get their cd produced without the RIAA and pay for the cost of production + labor from wherever via contract to sell X cds, etc... Sure you can fail hard at this, but such is life, don't publish shitty music, I'm sure Wal-Mart would QC what gets produced too.
  Also, look around, CDS are 90% dead, digital mp3 is in, and yet the RIAA is still involved. Do you really need the RIAA to post your music to napster by uploading your mp3s? No?
  I have a hard time believing there are still people who think the RIAA serves a legit purpose since they seem to be more focused on enforcing copyright than promoting new artists. Mainstream rock of late has kind of been displeasing to my ears. Then some fag on the radio calls Avenged the next Metallica, yawn.
awol by amazon10x · 2011-10-14 05:50 · Score: 2

Nobody knows where he is. He probably fled the country and will create a new identity for himself.
Here's to hoping, anyway.
1. Re:awol by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 05:58 · Score: 1
  
  Nobody knows where he is. He probably fled the country and will create a new identity for himself.
  Here's to hoping, anyway.
  I don't think anyone really believed he was sick in Cambodia. The only proof we have of that is his mother's word. Seems to me like he knew the end was near and hopefully took his earnings with him to start a new life
2. Re:awol by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:07 · Score: 0
  
  That's not true. He could have gotten an std from a ladyboy companion.
3. Re:awol by TechLA · 2011-10-14 06:17 · Score: 1
  
  That's not true. He could have gotten an std from a ladyboy companion.
  That's bullshit. I've had my fair share of ladyboy fun and generally it's almost impossible to get serious STD like HIV on the receiving end of a blowjob. Of course it's a good idea to have a condom when having intercourse, but if you're just looking for a blowjob then there's no problem. The change of getting serious STD is 0.0000001%.
4. Re:awol by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:19 · Score: 0
  
  He is in Cambodia enjoying all sorts of drugs living in some shithole. True story.
5. Re:awol by GameboyRMH · 2011-10-14 06:23 · Score: 1
  
  That's what I'd do. Heck I'd say it was Cambodia and the flee from there to some other country. A big one with lots of jungles. With a decent amount of cash it's easy to build a nice big house in the middle of a jungle and live comfortably, I've seen it done (including one guy who has a Lotus Elise at his place, and has to drive it a good kilometer or so over a rocky trail to get it to the nearest sorta-paved road, LOL)
  
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6. Re:awol by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:56 · Score: 0
  
  That's not true. He could have gotten an std from a ladyboy companion.
  That's bullshit. I've had my fair share of ladyboy fun and generally it's almost impossible to get serious STD like HIV on the receiving end of a blowjob. Of course it's a good idea to have a condom when having intercourse, but if you're just looking for a blowjob then there's no problem. The change of getting serious STD is 0.0000001%.
  You can get an STD only by intercourse i believe. And there's quite a high chance you might get it, if the ladyboy is from Combodia or Vietnam.
7. Re:awol by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 07:05 · Score: 1
  
  Well, you can spread an STD if the previous blowjob customer had one and the giver didn't wash his/her mouth. (Assuming skin contact)
8. Re:awol by arth1 · 2011-10-14 07:17 · Score: 1
  
  It depends on your definitions of "only" and "STD".
  Which in part is culture dependent. Some diseases like mono is considered an STD in some countries, but not others. And some, like warts, can be transferred without intercourse.
  Keep your thin mucous skin protected, whether it's mouth, genitals or other, and have fun.
9. Re:awol by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 07:49 · Score: 0
  
  An Elise on unpaved roads?
  
  You do realize the Elise is made of balsa wood and uses a 10hp chainsaw engine. It would probably break into a hundred pieces on unpaved roads.
10. Re:awol by GameboyRMH · 2011-10-14 07:53 · Score: 1
  
  You do realize it has a stainless/aluminum unibody, a 200hp+ high-revving 4cyl and can make a decent rally car?
  It's far from an ideal surface, especially with the factory settings, but it can be done. Heck I have to drive my little sports coupe over much worse roads with track-set coilovers to get within a few miles of the track.
  
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11. Re:awol by swb · 2011-10-14 09:47 · Score: 1
  
  Until the local warlord/cop/strongman figures out who the stupid white kid with all the cash is and what he's running from.
  Then they will come asking for larger and larger bribes to keep quiet. Refuse? Why, they might just take it from you, throw you in the local jail with some unpleasant locals, or drop a dime on you to the embassy/consulate of the country looking for you.
  Either way, it's an unhappy ending for you, your fortune and your freedom.
  I think you're better off getting an ocean-capable boat, finding some archipelago or river system you can get lost in for about 5 years. That way you're always on the move, you're seen as just another tourist/traveler, and you might just find a port of call you can settle down into without looking like you don't belong.
  I wanna bet that a person on a deep-water capable cabin cruiser or a houseboat in the US with access to the Mississippi could keep moving at such a low profile that he might never be found. Between the Mississippi and Ohio rivers, the Gulf Coast intracoastal waterway and the Florida intracoastal waterways there are nearly 15,000 miles to get lost in.
  And that doesn't include probably another couple thousand miles of tributaries that are recreationally navigable as well. And much of all of it has plenty of secluded semi-wilderness areas to stay off the grid.
12. Re:awol by Threni · 2011-10-14 10:21 · Score: 1
  
  > Then they will come asking for larger and larger bribes to keep quiet. Refuse? Why, they might just
  > take it from you, throw you in the local jail with some unpleasant locals, or drop a dime on you to the
  > embassy/consulate of the country looking for you.
  Yeah, only you're in the jungle with a gun. What's the first rule of extortion? Never demand more money from someone than it will cost them to have YOU killed!
13. Re:awol by gknoy · 2011-10-14 11:05 · Score: 1
  
  The point was that the local thugs are likely to have More Guns (and come expecting resistance) than Mr. Svartholm (or any of us) -- unless we were to also spend Large Money on maintaining our own private security force. They also have a more extensive foothold in the area (informants, blackmail on local people) than we would which would make it easier for them to get cheaper mercenaries than we can, I expect. Even then, it's still only a cost/benefit analysis away from some local warlord saying, "Hmm, his bounty is X, and it costs me half-X to collect it? OK!"
14. Re:awol by TapeCutter · 2011-10-14 11:58 · Score: 1
  
  No you can't, saliva digests most (if not all) STD's, if it didn't then they would be easily transmitted by food handling.
  
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15. Re:awol by TapeCutter · 2011-10-14 12:03 · Score: 1
  
  A friend of mine had a Lotus, it was so low to the ground that he couldn't drive it over a speed bump without scrapping the undercarriage.
  
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16. Re:awol by TapeCutter · 2011-10-14 12:21 · Score: 1
  
  Were talking about Cambodia, a small nation whose economy is highly dependent on the 2M tourists/yr it draws from rich nations, it's nothing like Somalia or Chicago.
  
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17. Re:awol by GameboyRMH · 2011-10-15 02:05 · Score: 1
  
  He must have either lowered it from the stock ride height (which is close to 7" for S2 and later models) or he drives over some monster speedbumps...
  
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18. Re:awol by 0111+1110 · 2011-10-15 08:48 · Score: 1
  
  Where the hell did you get that from? You are wrong. Very wrong. Someone needs to revoke your medical degree.
  
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P2P by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 05:50 · Score: 0

Centralised -> Decentralised -> Centralised
We're back to where we started.
1. Re:P2P by GameboyRMH · 2011-10-14 06:01 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  There's DHT. Tracker sites are nothing more than a convenience nowadays.
  
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2. Re:P2P by lexman098 · 2011-10-14 10:15 · Score: 1
  
  Tracker sites are required to get the torrent. Trackers are where the convenience lies.
3. Re:P2P by jonwil · 2011-10-14 15:55 · Score: 1
  
  Last time I checked, you dont need a tracker site to get a .torrent file because you can just use a magnet link.
  Although then you have the situation where you need a site to collect magnet links (and its likely that big-movie-studio-favoring courts will consider magnet links just as infringing as .torrent files)
In a hospital in Cambodia?! by MarkvW · 2011-10-14 05:56 · Score: 2

That is one best excuses for not coming to court that I have ever heard!
1. Re:In a hospital in Cambodia?! by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:01 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe he's here taking a "mental health" day.
2. Re:In a hospital in Cambodia?! by blair1q · 2011-10-14 06:56 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe... he was on an island... being a Real Pirate King!
  Does he like lacrosse?
3. Re:In a hospital in Cambodia?! by pinkeen · 2011-10-14 07:29 · Score: 1
  
  +1 for Archer reference
4. Re:In a hospital in Cambodia?! by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 08:07 · Score: 0
  
  Maybe he's just on holiday...
5. Re:In a hospital in Cambodia?! by Archwyrm · 2011-10-14 09:25 · Score: 1
  
  Hurrah for the Pirate King! And it is, it is, it is a glorious thing to be the Pirate King!
  
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Shocking by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 05:58 · Score: 0

I knew he was a pirate, but I was shocked to find out he was a scofflaw.
Swedish Jail? by stevegee58 · 2011-10-14 06:07 · Score: 2

I'd heard they were more like upscale college dorms than prison cells.
1. Re:Swedish Jail? by Osgeld · 2011-10-14 06:13 · Score: 1
  
  depends on your perspective, the US prison cells look like upscale college dorms compared to the ones in North Korea
2. Re:Swedish Jail? by Tsingi · 2011-10-14 06:14 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  I'd heard they were more like upscale college dorms than prison cells.
  forcing someone to live in a college dorm would be inhuman.
3. Re:Swedish Jail? by MrNJ · 2011-10-14 06:16 · Score: 1
  
  Nonsense. I've never heard of college dorm where they clean your room for free.
  
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4. Re:Swedish Jail? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:26 · Score: 0
  
  Plus when you get fucked they always remember to give a reacharound.
5. Re:Swedish Jail? by stevegee58 · 2011-10-14 06:47 · Score: 1
  
  Compared to which ones in North Korea? College dorms or prison cells?
6. Re:Swedish Jail? by colondee · 2011-10-14 07:13 · Score: 2
  
  In the UK (London) our rooms get cleaned. Well not for free, it's included in the rent. That's one of the reasons I don't live in college any more. The cleaner often came in when I was sleeping/drunk, and if I wasn't there, she sometimes knocked over my stuff. My neighbour left some coins (remember, our smallest banknote is about US$8) on his desk and they were gone when he got back. I never noticed my room noticeably cleaner after the maid had come. And one day when I caused a bit of a mess, I asked if I could borrow the vaccum cleaner from reception. They made me wait until the cleaner next came round!
7. Re:Swedish Jail? by Osgeld · 2011-10-14 07:15 · Score: 1
  
  good point
8. Re:Swedish Jail? by PRMan · 2011-10-14 07:41 · Score: 1
  
  2 bedroom houses
  
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9. Re:Swedish Jail? by migla · 2011-10-14 09:57 · Score: 1
  
  True, that. But, you know, punishment is barbaric and didn't ever do anybody any good.
  I know it is in our nature and for example I feel instinctively that want to punish our fascist minister of education with a kick in the penis and/or teeth whenever he lays down his old populist, military anti-academical/philosophical/human bullshit tripe, but punishment, however sweet, is not right. The wrongdoers can not help themselves. As a civilized society we should just prevent them from doing harm.
  Punishment or revenge are not civilized things to do.
  
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10. Re:Swedish Jail? by migla · 2011-10-14 10:00 · Score: 1
  
  Ps. The minister of education I was referring to as an example is the Swedish one (whom I intellectually do not wish bodily or any other kind of harm).
  
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11. Re:Swedish Jail? by jonwil · 2011-10-14 16:03 · Score: 1
  
  In North Korea, prison cells would probably be better than college dorms. At least in prison they feed you (otherwise they wouldn't be able to use you as slave labor for whatever project the "dear leader" wants next)
12. Re:Swedish Jail? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 20:40 · Score: 0
  
  I'd heard they were more like upscale college dorms than prison cells.
  forcing someone to live in a college dorm would be inhuman.
  I've had some killer times in college dorms...
  But true, I never did live there...
13. Re:Swedish Jail? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 22:50 · Score: 0
  
  Sweden's recidivism rate: 35%. USA: 67%.
  Sweden's incarcerations per 100,000: 69. USA: 689.
  Sweden homicides per (100,000*year): 1. USA 5.
  Upscale college dorms they may be, but they're doing a hell of a lot better than us at fighting crime so we probably shouldn't mock them.
14. Re:Swedish Jail? by 0111+1110 · 2011-10-15 09:05 · Score: 1
  
  depends on your perspective, the US prison cells look like upscale college dorms compared to the ones in North Korea
  Actually I'm willing to bet that North Korean prisons are nicer than American ones. Remember that guy who had so much fun torturing innocent iraqis in Abu Ghraib? He used to be a US prison guard. Also North Korean prisoners probably don't rape each other. Even in American prisons sexual assaults are usually a racial thing (black on white or hispanic on white). I've also heard that Swedish jails are actually pretty nice. And rape-free.
  
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15. Re:Swedish Jail? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-17 06:39 · Score: 0
  
  I'd heard they were more like upscale college dorms than prison cells.
  From a US perspective, yes. People in Swedish jails don't loose their civil rights (except their freedom to move), just because they get imprisoned. The food is excellent; you get your own room and a reasonable amount of privacy and exercise; you have the right to TV, newspapers, magazines; you are not forced to do any labour (in lack of an income, you have the same right to get money from the social security as you would outside the walls, which is more then enough for personal expenses); you remain your right to vote in government elections.. The prison administration can't revoke your right to private and personal communication (e.g. internet and telephone line) other then for very limited periods (always as a precaution, never as a punishment), but if necessary from a security point, government official independent of the prison administration, or a court, can restrict those rights. There are very hard regulations about restricting prisoners from spending time with other prisoners, or being denied visits from outside the prison (again, always as a precaution, never as a punishment) . You usually get lots of permissions to ease your return to a civil life. For less serious (non-violent) crimes, you can decide yourself when you want to do your jail time (so that it doesn't mess up your professional and social life), in such cases, you can usually divide your jail time into periods that suits you; there are many sentenced criminals that only spend their prison time during weekends and holidays. Really dangerous people is usually judged to psychiatric care, or drug rehabilitation, with restricted movement (but often also have to spend a prison sentence after they been deemed free from their sickness), this is more feared then prison time by most professional criminals, since then there is no time limit for when to be released from being hold in confinement.
  The punishment is your loss of movement, nothing else (studies have showed, that the kind of "torture" put into place in US prisons, don't add much to the feeling of punishment from restricting someones freedom to move, it just fuck up the prisoners psychological health and the ability to become a law abiding citizen after the prison time). One of the main goal of your prison time is to rehabilitate you to a better citizen. Swedish prison sentences are not designed to fuck up your social and professional life and make life after served prison time hard.
  It is very effective compared to US prison sentences. Almost all people who is put into prison in Sweden, never commit any new crimes after served jail time.
  Unfortunately, there have been plenty of people from other countries with poor economic standards, that have travelled to Sweden and committed crimes, just to get put into prison. There have even been some "travel agencies" specializing in this sort of "vacations" (but it is a stupid thing to do, since you may loose your right to visit Sweden again). Sweden have also been especially targeted by international criminal gangs, because of the "lax" punishment if the criminals get caught. Prison time have also been used as a mean for refugees, afraid to return to their home countries, to stay longer in Sweden.
Cambodia by Spy+Handler · 2011-10-14 06:09 · Score: 2

are you sure it wasn't Somalia?
1. Re:Cambodia by GameboyRMH · 2011-10-14 06:16 · Score: 1
  
  Somalia would be a terrible place to flee to. Any government (or corporation, why not) could come and abduct you with a blackhawk (as long as none of the militias manage to shoot them down) and the little government-controlled compound in the capital won't know shit, and even if they did, nobody cares about their little pipsqueak government.
  
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2. Re:Cambodia by richardellisjr · 2011-10-14 06:44 · Score: 2
  
  I think he was making a Somalia Pirate joke.
3. Re:Cambodia by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 07:19 · Score: 0
  
  Because they couldn't do that in Cambodia? You think the king of Cambodia is going to give a shit about this twerp?
4. Re:Cambodia by GameboyRMH · 2011-10-14 07:21 · Score: 1
  
  Not about this twerp, but perhaps about foreign law enforcement presence on his land...
  
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5. Re:Cambodia by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 07:49 · Score: 0
  
  What is he going to do? Saber rattle and watch as the world laughs at how powerless he is?
6. Re:Cambodia by GameboyRMH · 2011-10-14 07:58 · Score: 1
  
  When Kim Jong-Il or Ahmadinejad impotently saber-rattles, the US takes notice.
  Also it would make the US look like a huge dick and damage foreign relations, although I doubt you care about that part.
  
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7. Re:Cambodia by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 08:43 · Score: 0
  
  When Kim Jong-Il or Ahmadinejad impotently saber-rattles, the US takes notice.
  But he is neither of those people. That's because they have weapons and powerful backers. The king of Cambodia doesn't.
8. Re:Cambodia by shutdown+-p+now · 2011-10-14 10:42 · Score: 1
  
  Not all places in Somalia are lawless. Somaliland, for example, has working government institutions on all of its claimed territory.
9. Re:Cambodia by gknoy · 2011-10-14 11:09 · Score: 1
  
  However, the US (or anyone) waltzing into Cambodia and Doing What They Want makes the world take notice, as then all of their neighbors (or anyone without a nuke program?) wonders what will happen if someone decides to hide in THEIR country. I imagine it'd make a poor diplomatic impression on our friends (or Sweden's friends, in this case) if one were to act in a manner which pretty much explicitly says "We don't care about your sovereignty". We caught flak for that when taking out Bin Laden, and justified it with him being a high-level terrorist; I don't see the same sort of justification being usable for grabbing Mr. Svartholm, should he ever be found.
Its $4.48m by think_nix · 2011-10-14 06:16 · Score: 2

The summary is wrong. TFA:"This means that the Pirate Bay co-founder is sentenced to a year in jail and his share of 30 million kronor ($4.48m) in damages."
1. Re:Its $4.48m by Mordermi · 2011-10-14 06:26 · Score: 1
  
  Divided by 4.
2. Re:Its $4.48m by ThatsMyNick · 2011-10-14 06:38 · Score: 1
  
  The summary is wrong. TFA:"This means that the Pirate Bay co-founder is sentenced to a year in jail and his share of 30 million kronor ($4.48m) in damages."
  Emphasis mine.
3. Re:Its $4.48m by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:52 · Score: 0
  
  No, not divided by 4. 30 million SEK is to be payed in total, it is not evenly distributed.
  If any single one of the sentenced got money, it will be confiscated. He can then sue his companions if he want them to pay their share.
4. Re:Its $4.48m by SuricouRaven · 2011-10-14 06:55 · Score: 1
  
  If he is fleeing, it's more likely fleeing the jail than fine. Rich or not, a nerd is a nerd... somehow I doubt he would do very well in jail, and he probably agrees. Even a Swedish jail, which I imagine is rather less full of beatings than the US approach of cramming people in like sardines to keep costs down.
5. Re:Its $4.48m by mmcuh · 2011-10-14 07:43 · Score: 1
  
  ...which is the only reason why one of the four was prosecuted to begin with, the guy who was a decade of two older and basically just owned the ISP that employed one of the others. He is rich, the other three, who were the ones actually involved with The Pirate Bay, have no money. Guess who will have to pay the damages if the supreme court appeal fails?
6. Re:Its $4.48m by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 07:50 · Score: 1
  
  His share of the 30 million is not 7.5 million. His share is whatever can be extracted from him, until a total of 30 million has been collected from all 4 defendants. This can be between 0 and 30 million depending on how the collection from his mates goes. The verdict does not contain any notion of "fairness" among the defendants, and the court does not care who of them pays.
  For the purposes of calculating his net worth - e.g. for a credit report - the damages will be noted as a debt of 30 million in his name, although this may be erased by the others paying. So if you wish to assign a specific number to his verdict, 30 million is the least inaccurate number.
7. Re:Its $4.48m by Kidbro · 2011-10-14 07:59 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  As a Swedish resident I disagree. While I would certainly not want to go to jail, I wouldn't fear the time there, and I'm a 60kg geek that probably couldn't hold my own against a 12 year old girl.
  A prison sentence is far from a luxury resort, but in general in prison violence is low here. Lacking a decent net connection (and being disconnected would be a terrible thing indeed) I'd spend my time in the library, reading up on what I'm curious about, or simply ploughing through the classics I've missed. I doubt I'd have much trouble with other inmates.
  A million dollar debt though - that would destroy my life.
  I suspect the same is true for Anakata.
  
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8. Re:Its $4.48m by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 08:42 · Score: 0
  
  I doubt he's very rich. Last time I saw him he was sitting at their office/server place in front of a bunch of terminal screens working away. I came to patch my server on-site, and he was a bit paranoid.
  It didn't look too glamorous, but then again I guess he's a nerd like the rest of us. Doing it for the fun of it.
9. Re:Its $4.48m by Kjella · 2011-10-14 09:23 · Score: 1
  
  Guess who will have to pay the damages if the supreme court appeal fails?
  For him there is no appeal now, the verdict is final. Which I think with 99% probability means we'll never hear from him again because he's either dead or disappeared, I won't speculate in which but I'd be extremely surprised if he should ever reappear.
  
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10. Re:Its $4.48m by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 09:40 · Score: 1
  
  "I'm a 60kg geek that probably couldn't hold my own against a 12 year old girl."
  If you DID hold your own against a 12 year old girl, you'd definitely go to prison.
11. Re:Its $4.48m by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 12:27 · Score: 0
  
  A million dollar debt though - that would destroy my life.
  I don't know about Swedish bankruptcy laws, but it can be all over and done with in as little as 3 years and you can start your life again with no debt.
12. Re:Its $4.48m by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 15:07 · Score: 0
  
  I doubt it. With governments, the usual rules do not apply. He might get out from under private debt but the government is going to get its pound of flesh especially in a case like this. Unless he can elude capture of course.
13. Re:Its $4.48m by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-15 01:37 · Score: 0
  
  Maybe the elder pirate bay users should donate to fix his debt. We're all glad he stood up for us , we should stand up for him.
14. Re:Its $4.48m by jago25_98 · 2011-10-15 06:39 · Score: 1
  
  Well said. I wonder how the Norwegian process for debts is. Is it a case of `we take everything you try and earn for 6 years` or worse?
  
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15. Re:Its $4.48m by 0111+1110 · 2011-10-15 09:45 · Score: 2
  
  I've always felt that one of the best ways to judge a country and a culture is by how they treat their prisoners. Sweden is definitely one of the more civilized countries in the world. Too bad about these silly US bought laws.
  
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Lost inside Cambodia by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:54 · Score: 0

They won't see his face again
Afghanistan by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 06:55 · Score: 0

He should have went to Afghanistan where is no such thing as copyright legislation.
1. Re:Afghanistan by Fallen+Kell · 2011-10-14 07:07 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, but there is a nice extradition agreement between there and many countries like the US, EURO block, and elsewhere since they all have their troops there trying to keep the country together. He could try his hand in the autonomous regions, but if you are not a muslim (and of the correct sect), you had better start learning....
  
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2. Re:Afghanistan by couchslug · 2011-10-14 10:14 · Score: 1
  
  "He should have went to Afghanistan where is no such thing as copyright legislation."
  The POTUS can kill anyone at will, and the Dems are the "Party of Disney".
  He'd be as safe in A-stan as Fred Phelps would be in Mecca.
  
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3. Re:Afghanistan by 0111+1110 · 2011-10-15 09:38 · Score: 1
  
  And you think there is copyright legislation in Cambodia? Obviously you've never been to the Russian Market in Phnom Penh. Cambodia is actually a pretty nice place. I wouldn't mind living there. And is there any other place where you can see 2 adults, 3 children, and a dog all riding on the same motorbike? Frankly I envy him. With that kind of money you could live like a king there until the end of your days. The language is hard though. No tones, but lots of difficult phonemes.
  
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Holiday in Cambodia by blair1q · 2011-10-14 06:58 · Score: 1

i have nothing to add about it, it's just hard to work that meme into /. any more
1. Re:Holiday in Cambodia by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 07:21 · Score: 0
  
  i'm glad someone did.
Re:Well, well... by mmcuh · 2011-10-14 07:45 · Score: 1

They are not taken down. The site was down a couple of days after the raid that started the whole thing (back in June 2006!), but has been up ever since with the odd downtime for planned maintainance or technical screwups. It's just run by different people.
Got off easy by synapse7 · 2011-10-14 07:52 · Score: 1

Think if they upheld the same amount that Thomas chic was liable for at $80,000USD per song.
1. Re:Got off easy by DrBoumBoum · 2011-10-14 07:57 · Score: 1
  
  They would have bankrupted the galaxy.
2. Re:Got off easy by Cruciform · 2011-10-14 10:59 · Score: 1
  
  That's a lot of gold-pressed latinum.
missing.... by shoehornjob · 2011-10-14 08:07 · Score: 2

Because he was hospitalized in Cambodia and later went missing
Yeah..... that's exactly what happened Please.. the man has money and no interest in giving it back or spending time in jail. He's long gone folks. Any sane person would have done the same thing.

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1. Re:missing.... by DanielRavenNest · 2011-10-14 08:29 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  So where is the best combination of fast internet backbones, moderate cost of living, and no extradition treaty? I would look there.
2. Re:missing.... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 09:03 · Score: 1
  
  Cambodia??
3. Re:missing.... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 09:42 · Score: 0
  
  Are you kidding me? 1 year in jail and $1.1M is not really a punishment compared to a lifetime in exile.
  If he doesn't have the money it will still only mean a few years in bankrupcy to get back on track with a "clean" slate. It is far better than hiding for a lifetime.
  Any sane person would take the sentance and get a life again in a few years.
4. Re:missing.... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 10:48 · Score: 0
  
  And he keeps his money where? Banks :)
  And who can seize assets including bank accounts? Governments.
  Stop his money and he will come crawling home.
5. Re:missing.... by gknoy · 2011-10-14 11:12 · Score: 1
  
  I don't think that you can use bankruptcy to avoid paying legal judgements. That is to say (IANAL), I don't think you can in the US, and don't believe you can in other countries either. I expect a bankruptcy would still leave him saddled with many years of garnished wages, if anything.
6. Re:missing.... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 11:51 · Score: 0
  
  Costa Rica would be the obvious choice.
7. Re:missing.... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 13:19 · Score: 0
  
  A 3 square meters cellar enclosure in Hong Kong with a cramped bunk bed above a tiny chair and desk with a fat 1GBps line? Don't hit your head on the bed when walking in through the plywood sheet "door". Triads don't extradite customers and/or valued/incongruent workers.
  Or maybe Russia, Russia is huge. Continental China could work too.
8. Re:missing.... by 91degrees · 2011-10-14 19:33 · Score: 1
  
  But a Swedish low security prison for a year isn't going to be a particular hardship. They care about human rights. You get visitors, the other inmates are going to be people convicted of white collar crimes, so aren't going to be particularly violent. I'm sure there's a good chance of getting out sooner than after a whole year.
9. Re:missing.... by Santzes · 2011-10-15 10:28 · Score: 1
  
  I've stayed in Cambodia for about 3+ months, and it's a blast, most likely country I would live if I had the money and a big problem with the law. You can also get Cambodian citizenship for $20-25k in under-the-table -deal, and before that a year long visa is just $250-$275 and nothing else. But how do you get missing there? It's not like there's anybody you could ask if xxx is "really missing" or just having his daily dose of almost-free alcohol.
hospitalized in Cambodia by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 08:33 · Score: 0

King Kong defense didn't work out?
The Pirate Bay Founders are huge disappointments by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 09:05 · Score: 1

If you are going to be a Pirate, then you better have the testicular fortitude to face the consequences. Be a Martyr!
Re:Well, well... by seandiggity · 2011-10-14 10:03 · Score: 1

All of that chest-beating on their site about takedown notices, and when they actually _get_ taken down their co-founder runs off to a foreign country and hides to avoid the consequences, scurrying away from the lights like a cockroach.
Um, those letters on the site make it pretty clear he's a pirate. Pirates pull crazy schemes to avoid jail. Or did you not download Pirates of the Carribean on TPB? ;)

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Re:The Pirate Bay Founders are huge disappointment by rohan972 · 2011-10-14 10:33 · Score: 1

If you are going to be a Pirate, then you better have the testicular fortitude to face the consequences. Be a Martyr!
Either that, or escape with your treasure and live out your days in luxury in an exotic paradise.

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sounds like michael c. film by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 16:05 · Score: 0

was in cambodia, went missing
they should probably sent robert deniro find him
before doin something crazy
10 years by Anonymous Coward · 2011-10-14 17:24 · Score: 0

All Gottfrid has to do now is avoid extradition for ten years (35:8 swedish penal code, article 2-3 swedish statute of limitations) and both jail sentence and damages will be void.
Re:The Pirate Bay Founders are huge disappointment by Xest · 2011-10-15 00:14 · Score: 1

What does being a martyr achieve in this case? It wont unite the pirates.
No, far better to reassert to the authorities that they do not control people in the digital age like they used to, that chasing pirates is laughably futile and that it's better to work with them and provide them with reasonable content at reasonable prices than against them in pointless litigation that's cost them far more pursuing than they'll ever hope to get back from it.