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The Genetics of Happiness

Hugh Pickens writes "Studies comparing identical twins with non-identical twins have helped to establish the heritability of many aspects of behavior. Recent work suggests that about one third of the variation in people's happiness is heritable. Jan-Emmanuel De Neve has taken the study a step further, picking a popular suspect — the gene that encodes the serotonin-transporter protein, a molecule that shuffles a brain messenger called serotonin through cell membranes — and examined how variants of the 5-HTT gene affect levels of happiness. The serotonin-transporter gene comes in two functional variants—long and short and people have two versions (known as alleles) of each gene, one from each parent. After examining genetic data from more than 2,500 participants in the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, De Neve found that people with one long allele were 8% more likely than those with none to describe themselves as very satisfied with life and those with two long alleles were 17% more likely of describing themselves as very satisfied. Interestingly enough, there is a notable variation across races with Asian Americans in the sample having on average 0.69 long genes, white Americans with 1.12, and black Americans with 1.47. 'It has long been suspected that this gene plays a role in mental health but this is the first study to show that it is instrumental in shaping our individual happiness levels (PDF),' writes De Neve. 'This finding helps to explain why we each have a unique baseline level of happiness and why some people tend to be naturally happier than others, and that's in no small part due to our individual genetic make-up.'"

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  1. Black people happier? by coinreturn · · Score: 2

    So the summary implies that black people are expected to be happier. Is that what is observed in the wild?

    1. Re:Black people happier? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Baseline happiness can arguably be negatively correlated to competitiveness, drive and success. You are naturally happy, so you don't worry about making things better for yourself or your children, you just go with the flow because things are pretty good the way they are.

      Check out the decisions of people before and after they go on an SSRI. The small sample of SSRI users I know tend to fall into a complacent, ultimately self destructive, state when they are on the pills for too long (6 months or more). It's not something I've seen widely published in the literature, just personal observation shared between myself and other non-SSRI users about SSRI users we know.

    2. Re:Black people happier? by coinreturn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Baseline happiness can arguably be negatively correlated to competitiveness, drive and success. You are naturally happy, so you don't worry about making things better for yourself or your children, you just go with the flow because things are pretty good the way they are.

      Check out the decisions of people before and after they go on an SSRI. The small sample of SSRI users I know tend to fall into a complacent, ultimately self destructive, state when they are on the pills for too long (6 months or more). It's not something I've seen widely published in the literature, just personal observation shared between myself and other non-SSRI users about SSRI users we know.

      I somewhat agree, though without the "self-destructive" part of your statement. I have been on SSRI and have seen my own complacency reduce my drive.

    3. Re:Black people happier? by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A possible factor here is that if they recruited test subjects from the student population (not uncommon for university studies), the black subjects would be more likely to be exceptionally motivated and happy people just to get into the school in the first place.

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    4. Re:Black people happier? by HopefulIntern · · Score: 2

      A friend, as well as myself, struggle with anxiety disorders. I considered going on SSRIs but he warned me against them. His experience was, yes it evens out your extremes, so no difficult periods of crippling anxiety. However, you are equally incapable of being very happy, the drug mainly working to, quite literally, level you. He said after months of use he felt like he was just going through the motions, everything was routine. He was not upset, sad or anxious, but he also never enjoyed anything. I decided against going on them. The alternative is to get a prescription for Valium or something like it, which has fewer such dramatic effects, though you will experience the onset of anxiety before you take them, so there is that, plus they are addictive so they must be taken with caution. I remain unmedicated, as I am trying to work it out without drugs for the time being.

    5. Re:Black people happier? by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Drive and happiness seem pretty much opposed to me. Not depression obviously which tends to kill drive entirely. But if you are "happy" getting Bs you aren't going to work harder to get As. The idea of "baseline happiness" is that you are stuck with it too, I think anyway. So a better paying job or better results in school will make you happier but only temporarily and soon you'll revert back to the baseline. So those who are the most "naturally unhappy" will have a greater urge to increase their happiness which means continual improvement due to the reversion to baseline. They are also destined to die unhappy since at some point (for most people who don't die young anyway) you'll peak in all the metrics and it's downhill all the way after that...

    6. Re:Black people happier? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      A few years after purchasing my convertible car, I read that driving fast with the top down in the sunshine can release a significant quantity of seratonin compared to driving a sedan, sedately, with the windows rolled up. I also read (in a completely unrelated article) that excess levels of seratonin can lead to involuntary clenching of the jaw muscles and grinding of the teeth. For myself, these two observations appear to work (blast home over the I-195 causeway with the top down, get a case of lock-jaw at the light on Biscayne Blvd, observed both before and after reading the articles.)

      I imagine there are many things you can do, besides swallowing a pill, that have similarly profound effects on basic brain chemistry.

    7. Re:Black people happier? by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Baseline happiness can arguably be negatively correlated to competitiveness, drive and success.

      Or not, because people who are depressed feel like it doesn't matter what they do, life's going to suck anyways. They may also respond to their constant unhappiness by looking for artificial mood boosters, which can lead to alcoholism or drug use. They frequently also fail to recognize the value of their accomplishments. By contrast, a happier person is more likely to trigger their brain's reward mechanisms when they do something productive, so they're likely to repeat the behavior.

      And it's also worth noting that it's unclear to what degree "drive" and "competitiveness" has to do with "success": The best predictor of a person's level of educational attainment is their parents' educational attainment. The best predictor of athletic success is genetic advantages like height, eyesight, and weight. Artistic success has a fair amount to do with whether a kid's artistic efforts were encouraged or discouraged early on. Most of the really wealthy people in the US inherited a significant amount (Paul Allen is the exception on this front, not the rule).

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    8. Re:Black people happier? by HopefulIntern · · Score: 1

      Sadly not an option for me at the moment :( This economy is not so kind to graduates.

    9. Re:Black people happier? by clickclickdrone · · Score: 1

      My doc put me on SSRIs /because/ I had no highs and lows. No wonder I noticed no difference.

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    10. Re:Black people happier? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Sadly not an option for me at the moment :( This economy is not so kind to graduates.

      My convertible is a 1991 Mazda Miata - decent ones go for about $1500 these days.

    11. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the summary implies that black people are expected to be happier. Is that what is observed in the wild?

      Yes, it is. Once you domesticate them, they're far less happy, and frequently break into blues music.

    12. Re:Black people happier? by Hatta · · Score: 2

      Compare Southern Baptist services with Lutheran and you tell me.

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    13. Re:Black people happier? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Baseline happiness can arguably be negatively correlated to competitiveness, drive and success.

      Or not, because people who are depressed feel like it doesn't matter what they do, life's going to suck anyways.

      Like I said, arguably. The morbid joke around depression treatment circles is that ECT works because you forget that your life sucks, as soon as you remember (typically in 6 months or so), you're depressed again.

      Swing too far in any direction and things usually don't go well, in a population of billions there are plenty of exceptions, but mostly, it's a bad idea to get really happy (like opium users), or really depressed.

    14. Re:Black people happier? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      My convertible is a 1991 Mazda Miata - decent ones go for about $1500 these days.

      Add another $1500-$2K to that and put on a turbo or supercharger..and you will REALLY start to feel better. Those little cars souped up can REALLY be screamers. You sure can surprise people in mustangs, or even the lower end vettes with a tweaked miata.

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    15. Re:Black people happier? by Metabolife · · Score: 1

      I think it's finally safe to say it. Black Americans really do have longer alleles. And Asian Americans have tiny ones.

    16. Re:Black people happier? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Well obviously, this study is horribly racist!!

      I mean, the nerve of these scientists trying to propose that possibly there are genetic differences between the races. We all know that this is not the case, that all races and people, of both sexes (and hermaphrodites) are completely and 100% equal on all bases.

      I mean, what the hell? Haven't we progressed beyond this discriminatory scientific findings thing YET?!??!

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    17. Re:Black people happier? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      My convertible is a 1991 Mazda Miata - decent ones go for about $1500 these days.

      Add another $1500-$2K to that and put on a turbo or supercharger..and you will REALLY start to feel better. Those little cars souped up can REALLY be screamers. You sure can surprise people in mustangs, or even the lower end vettes with a tweaked miata.

      Careful there - I went down that road, $5K for a turbo+ECU with intercooler and free flow exhaust, another $5K for limited slip differential, brake upgrades, etc. I got plenty of lock-jaw before the turbo went on (though I get it much easier since...)

    18. Re:Black people happier? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I think it's finally safe to say it. Black Americans really do have longer alleles. And Asian Americans have tiny ones.

      Maybe it is another case of "growers vs showers"?

      :)

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    19. Re:Black people happier? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Nice...!!!

      I went the route of getting one of the '05 Mazdaspeed miatas, already with factory turbo, suspension upgrades, anti-sway bars..etc.

      I'm looking to drop about $1600 or so, to get rid of the factory air restriction...using the Flyin Miata upgrades...basically the little enchilada...to get to about 200HP true rear wheel horsepower...which will be pretty fun.

      I'll likely keep it at that, and use this for my ragtop, and possibly get one of the new 580 HP ZL-1 Camaro that should come out some time next year...to get my 'muscle car' jones taken car of.

      Lots of good serotonin between those 8 wheels.

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    20. Re:Black people happier? by HopefulIntern · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah those can be picked up for £500 here. But insurance is another £2000 a year, so that is a no-go. I spend most of my expendable income on monthly train passes anyway. Whoopee.

    21. Re:Black people happier? by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      I imagine there are many things you can do, besides swallowing a pill, that have similarly profound effects on basic brain chemistry.

      Yeah....like exercise.

    22. Re:Black people happier? by justin12345 · · Score: 1

      Miatas really are a pretty good deal, happiness/money wise. I'm on my second one. So far the only things that have needed to be replaced on the second one (2002) are tires, brakes, and oil.

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    23. Re:Black people happier? by Toonol · · Score: 1

      But if you're 'happy' studying, you'll be happy studying more. Enjoying the process can lead to success, just as much as enjoying the results.

    24. Re:Black people happier? by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      Studies have shown that discussions about happiness tend to morph into miata threads.

    25. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The people with the pills are (supposed to be) the ones who used to have similar experiences, but when they do them now, they feel nothing but the empty hole where their happiness used to be. Could you imagine doing your car thing in perfect conditions and not feeling anything similar to joy? If not, you're not quite empathizing with the person you're handing advice to.

      It's like these two armless guys are chatting about the merits of differenet prostetics, and you walk up and give tell them that lifting things is easier when you lift with your legs. I mean, yes, that's true, but it's ignoring an underlying problem that they ain't got no hands to lift with.

    26. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have no idea if this is sound advice, but I want to congradulate you on your choice to go clean. I have my own personal views on what it means to be alive and the thought of changing myself through chemistry to be someone else is similar to suicide and death. It's the easy way out. It's giving up on the self-improvement struggle. Now, if you absolutely need to have/be/do X, then you really don't have an option. You can't ignore the real world. If you need to hold down a job, and it ain't going to happen without the get-to-work pills, then you do what you have to. But if there's a chance for self improvement, that would be a better option. Real self improvement, not with a crutch.

      Personally, I'm addicted to caffeine. With mountain dew being my poison of choice. As far as addictions go, this is pretty damn manageable. After a week, withdraw is only a moderate headache for a little while. Maybe some sleep issues. I know that I could be a better person if I kicked this habit, and I maybe kinda sorta tried to cut back once upon a time. And it was hard. There's little motivation and it was easy to go back.
      So I keep this little vice as a reminder that if I ever got into something deeper I'd be royally screwed. The happy pill would be a one way road for me. It'd be giving up.

    27. Re:Black people happier? by RCC42 · · Score: 1

      Due to anecdotal reasons I have to agree with the parent.

      SSRIs make 'bad' situations seem 'fine' so there's no drive to get out of them. Whether that be a bad relationship, bad living arrangements, bad job, etc. Sadness and dissatisfaction can be powerful motivators to improve your life. Of course they can also become crippling when people are unable or unwilling to make changes and end up stuck in that unhappy place for too long. SSRIs make that unhappy place a normal place... so why change?

      Kind of sad. But SSRIs are very useful for helping people out of depression... though proper support from friends and family would probably do the same thing if done properly.

    28. Re:Black people happier? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      My turbo was an early FM unit, late 1996! I'm hoping I can afford the FM V8 treatment by the time this engine is used up.

    29. Re:Black people happier? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      I imagine there are many things you can do, besides swallowing a pill, that have similarly profound effects on basic brain chemistry.

      Yeah....like exercise.

      Sacrilege! Next you'll say it can help you lose weight too.

    30. Re:Black people happier? by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      And donuts... don't forget donuts....

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    31. Re:Black people happier? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Studies have shown that discussions about happiness tend to morph into miata threads.

      Cheaper, safer, and probably more effective than retro-viral genetic therapy.

    32. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe being "happy" doing my work means I will actually do it instead of slacking off and wasting time on other shit.

    33. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone responds differently to medication. Because your friend responded one way does not mean you will respond the same. I for one prefer not to live my life with unannounced episodes of crippling anxiety, as does my brother who suffers even worse panic attacks than me. I've been using SSRIs (changed to a different kind recently after 15 years on Prozac and now am taking Celexa). Both my brother and I have discussed how we feel now as opposed to before taking SSRIs and we agree that we are happier, more fulfilled and less fearful in general. Yes, the complacent thing can be a problem but it's far far better than the way I used to feel and I find the motivation when I need it.

    34. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not what racism means. Racism is saying that there are different groups of people, and some of them deserve more privileges because they are better.

    35. Re:Black people happier? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      Check out the decisions of people before and after they go on an SSRI. The small sample of SSRI users I know tend to fall into a complacent, ultimately self destructive, state when they are on the pills for too long (6 months or more). It's not something I've seen widely published in the literature, just personal observation shared between myself and other non-SSRI users about SSRI users we know.

      I believe this might also be the case with non-SSRI anti-depressants like Wellbutrin (which is really more like a serotonin production booster than something that keeps it from being removed from the system). I think this is a very good point and I'm glad you mentioned it.

      I wonder how much of our great art would never have been created if these concentrated anti-depressants were invented centuries ago.

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    36. Re:Black people happier? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      That's not what racism means. Racism is saying that there are different groups of people, and some of them deserve more privileges because they are better.

      Trouble is, that's not the context which most people that scream racism use it in...hence my sarcastic posting.

      If you imply that there are any differences in race these days.....someone will shout racism.

      Hell, it doesn't take even that much these days...just say your don't like one of Obama's policies and someone will pop up and try to brand you a racist. The term is so overused these days...that it really is losing its meaning...it is now just more of a conversation stopper than anything else.

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    37. Re:Black people happier? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      My turbo was an early FM unit, late 1996! I'm hoping I can afford the FM V8 treatment by the time this engine is used up.

      FM V8 solution???

      I'd not heard of that one...I need to go check the site again!!!

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    38. Re:Black people happier? by riT-k0MA · · Score: 1

      Caffeine withdraw's nothing. Next time you go off of Mountain Dew, try kicking all sugar. You'll be surprised at how clearly you can think once you've been through 3 weeks of sugar withdraw.

    39. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The alternative is to learn to meditate. Do this. Every morning for five then 6 then 8 then 10 then 12 then 15 then 20 minutes get up, sit in a comfortable chair and listen to the sound of your breathing. When you breathe in, just listen very carefully to the sound and feel of your breath, as if you were a cat watching a mouse and very little instant of it was interesting to you. Do the same for breathing out.

      When you find your mind has wandered, bring it back to your breath. Don't chastise yourself for your wandering attention, just bring it back to the breath.

      At first it seems like an exercise in pointlessness, but if you do this twice a day every day the anxiety in your life will just go away.

    40. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that can be very valuable and help hugely with anxiety, but I'm not sure that it will always be enough for those with a genuine serious anxiety disorder, as opposed to, say, even the anxiety experienced by someone without an actual disorder, but who is very anxiety and worry prone. There are, no doubt, some people who are able to manage anxiety disorders this way--I just think it should be stressed that it may not be possible for everyone, even with much effort, and that this isn't a failure on their part or reason not to seek other treatment.

    41. Re:Black people happier? by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      But that's not what baseline happy is. It's how happy you are by default - so when not studying too. Whether you enjoy the process of studying is independant of how high your starting happiness is.

    42. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Baseline happiness can arguably be negatively correlated to competitiveness, drive and success. You are naturally happy, so you don't worry about making things better for yourself or your children, you just go with the flow because things are pretty good the way they are.

      Check out the decisions of people before and after they go on an SSRI. The small sample of SSRI users I know tend to fall into a complacent, ultimately self destructive, state when they are on the pills for too long (6 months or more). It's not something I've seen widely published in the literature, just personal observation shared between myself and other non-SSRI users about SSRI users we know.

      Totally WRONG! Depressed people have VERRRY low baseline happiness - if at all, and are they so competitive? Driven? "Personal observations" have zero value, FYI - everybody is prone to finding proofs (or "proof") of their beliefs wherever they look...

    43. Re:Black people happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no such a thing as "working it out" without being medicated Mr HopefulIntern, as simple as that... Your friend experienced SSRI induced anhedonia - rather known "feature" of SSRI-s, but these are neither the only, nor the very best long term anxiety killers - valium & Co are definitely not, although some sorts do require chronic administration... Good luck with your antiscientific approach - those who now commend you for staying "antidepressant free" will ridicule and mock you as soon as very first adverse effects of your decision appear...

  2. If everyone was happy by GeneralTurgidson · · Score: 2, Funny

    We wouldn't have a republican party

    1. Re:If everyone was happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, we wouldn't have politics at all.

    2. Re:If everyone was happy by JoeMerchant · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Interesting test (party affiliation vs allelle composition), doubt we could get government funding to run a publicly published study though. I bet there are private studies already in the works for the various "political think tanks."

    3. Re:If everyone was happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean, we wouldn't have people who are so unhappy that they feel the need to take from the people who worked for what they have (and would like to keep it), and give it to the people who haven't/don't.

      There... fixed that for you.

    4. Re:If everyone was happy by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Why would you say that?
      I have seen a lot of very happy republicans, especially when they are not around democrats, democrats like to put a downer on everything, Oh how many trees died so we can have are playing cards. Oh look the public access posting has a misspelling it is because we are not funding our schools. Oh no we wont go to that because we have to give money to a huge company... Really Democrats are really a downer, even when they are not with Republicans.

      Republicans only seem to get pissed off when the democrats put a downer on them doing things they want to do.

      The Core value of the Modern Republican is try to keep things the way they use to be. So in essence they are happy with the way thing were. Democrats want to change everything so they are unhappy with things.

      Now I am not saying we should just follow the Republicans just because they are happier with the way thing are/were because they are ignoring a lot of serious problems. But in terms of happiness Republicans are happier on the average then Democrats.

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    5. Re:If everyone was happy by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      The Core value of the Modern Republican is try to keep things the way they use to be.

      What decade do you live in?

    6. Re:If everyone was happy by rinoid · · Score: 1

      If you really think everyone "works" for what they have then you haven't been in the workforce long have you? Jesus.

      Furthermore, if we are talking about the 1%: these guys aren't the risk takers, they aren't the job creators, they aren't the innovators. They are like Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan since 1995. He's seen his overall compensation between 9 million and 30 million all the while returning what to shareholders? Nothing. JPM the stock, which joe worker might rely upon either as a single equity or as part of an index fund has remained absolutely flat returning a paltry dividend only.
      No, the likes of the good ol' person networked CEO is that they are glorified, overpaid managers. They are not the people who have worked hard for what they have.

      Any talk of raising taxes today in the US probably does not affect you. I can say this with reasonable assumption only because it's a small percentage who make that kind of money.

    7. Re:If everyone was happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We wouldn't have a republican party

      Correct.

      You and other people like you would work very hard so that the government can tax the hell out of you, taking away more than half the fruits of your labor, and give it to folks like me while I sit on my ass surfing the web all day long, collecting welfare & unemployment because I don't want to work for any job at all unless it pays like a banker (with hours to match). Oh and by the way, keep up all your good hard work because I need a new iPhone 4S and my contract ain't up yet, and I'd also like to get some new leather furniture from the rent-to-own place and a new subwoofer amp for my car.

    8. Re:If everyone was happy by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      The Core value of the Modern Republican is try to keep things the way they use to be. So in essence they are happy with the way thing were.

      Man, they must have been suffering ever since the steam engine started to change things, and change has only been accelerating since then.

    9. Re:If everyone was happy by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      Now I am not saying we should just follow the Republicans just because they are happier with the way thing are/were because they are ignoring a lot of serious problems. But in terms of happiness Republicans are happier on the average then Democrats.

      I saw a documentary about happiness a few weeks ago. In it, an American doctor confirmed exactly that: Republicans are far happier than Democrats, because they believe the world is good as it is and nothing is worth changing.

    10. Re:If everyone was happy by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, if we are talking about the 1%: these guys aren't the risk takers, they aren't the job creators, they aren't the innovators. They are like Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan since 1995. He's seen his overall compensation between 9 million and 30 million all the while returning what to shareholders?

      And my thought is..."SO WHAT?"

      It shouldn't matter or you or I...or anyone else how much this guy makes for doing nothing...except the stockholders of JPM.

      If they're idiots to pay a guy for doing nothing, well, then...that's their problem.

      Hell, I know I'd jump at the chance to get a 'job' that required me to do very little in return for an astronomical salary. I don't know many people on the face of the earth that would turn down that opportunity.

      If it means that much to you...try to buy some stock and organize the rest of the shareholders and either lower his salary or fire him.

      Aside from that...who really has a reason to bitch about how much anyone makes?

      Strangely, I don't see anyone standing in line to protest the ungodly amounts of money that professional sport persona are making these days in the NFL, NBA, baseball (whatever professional letters they have) or golfers.

      Are those guys really worth multi-million dollars a year? What do they produce that is useful? Is playing a fucking GAME really contributing that much to our society and the common working man?

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    11. Re:If everyone was happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's the opposite. I know a lot of Republicans, and, while it's unfair to generalize, many of them can be described as unempathetic: they're happy and healthy and can't imagine that anyone else wouldn't be unless it's through a fault of their own. Of course, when they get sick or lose their job, it's the liberals or bad luck or whatever, whereas if someone else is on hard times (sometimes even if they were born into them), it's their fault and speaks badly of something about them (race, creed, attitude, etc.).

      There was a TED talk pointing to a worldwide tendency along these and other lines, of liberals to be empathetic and conservatives to be unempathetic.

      So, while we all respond differently to stress, and not everyone develops a sense of empathy out of their own hardships, I think if we were all happy all the time, fewer people would have a sense that others legitimately need help sometimes.

      See also the relative rates of charitable giving between poor and rich (bearing in mind that most rich and poor people, even in the US, were born into it). Poor people understand how hard it can be not to have money, and how, even when you do your best to prepare for hardships, you are still vulnerable.

    12. Re:If everyone was happy by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, if we are talking about the 1%: these guys aren't the risk takers, they aren't the job creators, they aren't the innovators. They are like Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan since 1995. He's seen his overall compensation between 9 million and 30 million all the while returning what to shareholders? Nothing. JPM the stock, which joe worker might rely upon either as a single equity or as part of an index fund has remained absolutely flat returning a paltry dividend only.

      You have fully epitomized the problem with class warfare - you've decided that the wealthiest 1% are all like the wealthiest 0.00001%!

      Here's a wake-up call for you. The vast majority of the "1% 'ers" you hate are hard workers, and provide a huge benefit to the economy. It's too bad they actually don't make the kind of money you think they do, because if they did then their income alone would put the GDP of the US at about $51 Trillion - almost 4 times the actual GDP.

      So let's tax the hell out of the top 1% so the Federal government will be awash in cash. That would be good for all the poor and middle class, right? Balance things out, wouldn't it? Well, no. The ones that would actually benefit from that would be those 0.00001% like the JPM CEO, and the Goldman Sachs execs, (including the ones that now have powerful administrative positions in the Federal government), and all the others at the very top that you keep confusing with the actual working people that float in and out of the "top earner" category. Because it's not going to shift the power down, it would shift it even further upward.

      This is how the US fascist system works. People really need to get a clue about this, because those 3.4 million people in the US working hard and succeeding are the only ones hampering the total control of the entire system that the 5,000 or so elitists at the very top would really like to have.

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    13. Re:If everyone was happy by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      So we should call them the party of buzzkill?

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    14. Re:If everyone was happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? The complainers and protesters are 99% of the time liberals.

    15. Re:If everyone was happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It shouldn't matter or you or I...or anyone else how much this guy makes for doing nothing...except the stockholders of JPM.

      Except that I AM a stockholder. Or could be. I don't really know. I had about 6 options when it came to my 401k investments and I imagine they all invest in similar things, including indexes and mutual funds which spread out the risk. Which means with the interconnected web of the stock market, that the actions of Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan, has a real meaningful effect on my future well being.

      So, since our society is all interconnected and when one market goes up or down it effectively helps or hurts everyone, it IS my problem.

      Now, you could say that it was my option to invest in the stock market. Except that the 401k is the only non-retarded, non-full-time-job method of retirement investment for the average joe. Well, the average joe with a decent job. The pension is a thing of the past, and sticking it under the bed is generally considered a stupid thing to do.

      Finally, I think professional sports are retarded. Not only for the salaries that go around, but for the massive distraction that they cause for universities. I saw a couple of people get really excited about getting a football scholarship... and then they just played football there. I mean, they picked up a degree like English or History, but their main focus was football. One of them was a real estate agent last I heard, and I don't know about the other. And I saw a lot more kids that DIDN'T get that scholarship.

    16. Re:If everyone was happy by rinoid · · Score: 1

      A. Wake up call? I NEVER said I "hated" them.
      A1. Maybe there was some generalization there, but, I still support a 1%'er tax hike - period. Hard work yes, but those extreme compensation examples do not happen all by themselves. We pay for too much military, police and fire personnel with lifetime handsome livings, good highway systems, clean water, etc... Not a single 1%er did anything alone.
      A2. I agree that fairly taxing 1%ers will not shift power down. Nothing will but it's a completely separate problem of lack of actual democracy. The irony of the US "democracy" persists. The actual sort of plutocracy/oligarchy persists.

      B. You don't know fascism.

      C. Economic feudalism is more like it. I come from a very humble background here in the US. I put myself through two degrees, served in the military, and have been fortunate. I am the only one in my family to go to college. I see many of my nieces/nephews awash and adrift in a place that doesn't really have a place for them.
      Ca. As much as I want to shoot laser beams at Rick Perry, one thing he has proposed is the $10K degree. Now academics mumble that you get what you pay for, you can't get an education for this amount, blah blah blah. But what RP is kind of calling for is not a liberal arts education but a trade tract for individuals. You get a trade or occupation after a 10k investment. Period. It's a great idea to have thrown out there. Love it. We should acknowledge and help people find paths more and this would do it...

    17. Re:If everyone was happy by rinoid · · Score: 1

      I am definitely a JPM individual stockholder and very likely through one of the index funds in my 40x plan.

      Being a common stockholder really holds no water. The networked board makes the decisions no matter what. I'm not saying I'm powerless, but, we are powerless.

      Things like sports keep people interested in something else. Entertainment in general keeps people happy, it's a diversion. And I am one who rails against the high salaries of entertainers, kingly sums really. But I only rail so far because what's it get me? I'd rather enjoy life and so far things are good.

      As a 10%er I'm concerned.

    18. Re:If everyone was happy by Antisyzygy · · Score: 1

      Class warfare is already happening against the middle and poor class. The top 10% are mostly sheltered from this shitty economy the top 1% created out of greed, to make themselves richer. The top 10% are awash with hard workers, the top 1% are not. We are talking about people that have connections through Harvard or other institutions and already come from money, then make ridiculous salaries 500 times that of their hardest working employees. There are plenty of people in the lower 90% that could achieve a Harvard or other Ivy League degree, its just inaccessible for them unless they happen to suck the right cock for a scholarship.

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    19. Re:If everyone was happy by Antisyzygy · · Score: 1
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      That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
    20. Re:If everyone was happy by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      You've just perpetuated exactly the same false equivalency I pointed out in my post, without even addressing anything I said.

      And if you think there are 34 million people in the US sheltered from the shitty economy, you're completely full of shit. Nor is there anywhere close to 3.4 million people making 500 times the amount of their workers, that's bullshit.

      There are plenty of people in the lower 90% that could achieve a Harvard or other Ivy League degree, its just inaccessible for them unless they happen to suck the right cock for a scholarship.

      I guess Obama sucked the right ones, then, he was certainly in the lower 90% during his college years. I guess he's still doing it, too.

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    21. Re:If everyone was happy by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Your post is full of nothing but Democratic talking points, so I'm not sure why I would even respond to it.

      You say you "still support" a 1%'er tax hike, without any justification for why (envy?). Your statist talking points don't even address the fact that the 1% pay about 30% of the federal taxes while earning 18% of the income.

      I'm not impressed by anybody's plan for better and more efficient slave factories.

      The US is NOT a democracy - it's a democratic Republic. It actually works very well everywhere except at the Federal level, because the Federal government has entrenched (yes, FASCIST) policies and far too much power both over its own people and in foreign relations. I can't support ANYTHING that will supply even MORE power to it.

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    22. Re:If everyone was happy by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      Pleeeeeease .... someone mod this up.

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  3. So how long ... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    So how long until the protein the long allele encodes is produced and sold as happiness drug?

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    1. Re:So how long ... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      So how long until the protein the long allele encodes is produced and sold as happiness drug?

      A long, long time, they've got maintenance pills that do that - why would you spend money to develop a one time treatment when you can sell people daily pills for the rest of their lives instead?

    2. Re:So how long ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You mean prozac? Allthough it doesn't produce any additional serotonin, just inhibits it's reuptake into the presynaptic cell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI

    3. Re:So how long ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would that be a one time treatment? You would need gene therapy to make it permanent.

    4. Re:So how long ... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Likely depends on whether the effect is continuous, or whether the major difference is made relatively early in development, by pushing the system onto a different trajectory than it otherwise would have followed.

      We already have scads of SSRIs that tweak the seretonin system in what is supposed to be a positive direction. Those, as a class, manage to have clinically significant effects in a reasonable percentage of people with major depression; but (despite broad, fairly easy, availability) have attracted pretty much zero interest as recreational mood-enhancers among the population at large.

      I assume that there will be some research interest in the long-variant transporter protein as a successor to, or supplement to, SSRIs; and it might end up being a hit in the antidepressant market(if it turns out that regulating membrane transport is an important part of, or better than, futzing with extracellular concentration); but it is hard to imagine it taking the world of either cheap, widely available, socially lubricating, soft drugs(booze, pot) or potentially quite hazardous; but really-grabs-you-right-by-the-pleasure-center hard drugs(amphetamines, coke, etc.) by storm.

    5. Re:So how long ... by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sounds like you didn't understand. He wasn't talking about inserting the alleles into cells after the fact (something which isn't attainable with current technology, although some retroviruses show promise), but rather synthesizing the compounds which those cells with the aforementioned alleles would be producing to mimic the effect without the genetic machinery. That would in fact have to be a regular and recurring treatment, though I'm not sure that it would be all that different from existing treatments relating to seratonin production and management.

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    6. Re:So how long ... by RustyShackleford007 · · Score: 1

      Given past drug events; I wager a little over a year.

      It's all about who has the money and paying who. It's not about the overall success rate.

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    7. Re:So how long ... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Even if we assume that all drug developers are a cartel(rather than a set of entities competing with one another to produce blockbuster drugs; but in agreement that drugs really ought to be expensive), developing a one-time treatment makes total sense if it is sufficiently expensive vs. a maintenance drug.

      The net present value of a patient on a maintenance drug is lowered by the fact that future sales to them are time discounted($50 today is better than a promise of $50 a year from now, though exact discount rates vary) and discounted due to uncertainty(the patient could die, recover, become too poor to remain a customer, switch drugs, etc. so, at a population level, the probability that a customer today implies a payout at a given point in the future becomes lower as time goes on). For those reasons, the net present value is substantially lower than $prescription profit/month*months of patient life.

      There are also the transaction costs: it isn't free to have the doctor write the script every month or three, and to have the pharmacy stock the stuff and hand it out, and for the customer to drive over and pick it up, and remember to take it every day. All those costs either bite into the producer's profit, or the consumer's willingness to pay.

      If you have a one-time cure, on the other hand, its net present value, per patient, is equal to the profit at which you sell it. No discounted future payments, no future uncertainty, cash-in-hand. Plus, the customer is willing to pay more because there is no more daily pill, no more pharmacy pickups, no more doctor to write the script every so often, no feeling like shit if you mess up the logistics and miss a dose.

      Consider, by way of analogy, the way that laser eye surgery was not actually crushed by the Glasses Industrial Complex. It is a comparatively 'premium' priced product, compared to a basic pair of glasses every so often(based on breakage or prescription change) for life; but it offers good immediate-cash-in-hand profits for the producer and is valued by consumers for its great longterm convenience.

    8. Re:So how long ... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Happiness drugs are illegal in the United States.

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    9. Re:So how long ... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you didn't understand.

      True. Probably due to my personal crusade history and lack of deep though this morning. I have, on occasion, advocated for development of the retroviral type treatments for much more limited / controlled treatments, and the most common reaction I got was "that's science fiction, we're at least 20 years out from even seeing that work reliably in mice" - this was in 2004ish. The treatment I was advocating (increase local neural photosensitivity to replace electrostimulation with photostimulation, increasing safety and possibly efficacy of implantable neurostimulators) is now well proven in animal models, and even developed to an on/off type switch controllable by the color of light used.

      The problem with commercializing anything more complicated than a pill is the immensely profitable nature of pills. If the protein can be stabilized and delivered in a pill, then I bet somebody in some drug company is already studying the problem.

    10. Re:So how long ... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Consider, by way of analogy, the way that laser eye surgery was not actually crushed by the Glasses Industrial Complex. It is a comparatively 'premium' priced product, compared to a basic pair of glasses every so often(based on breakage or prescription change) for life; but it offers good immediate-cash-in-hand profits for the producer and is valued by consumers for its great longterm convenience.

      Alcon, a major manufacturer of laser eye surgery machines and eyedrops, loses money on the machines, they make it all in the eyedrops.

    11. Re:So how long ... by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      I doubt that the world would benefit from everybody being happy all the time. Happiness is in the path, not the destination. You should do things that make you happy, instead of just be happy and idle.

    12. Re:So how long ... by Toonol · · Score: 1

      Funny how all the people I know that take happy pills end up unhappy.

    13. Re:So how long ... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Almost certainly never. Transporters are big proteins that have to be folded correctly and inserted into the membrane and trafficked to the right place on the neuron. The pharmacology involved in getting an exogenous transporter into the right places just boggles the mind. Can't be done.

      Now using the DNA that encodes the long form of this protein, that might be thereputically valuable.

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  4. hrumpf by sgt+scrub · · Score: 1, Funny

    I was told it isn't length that makes happy. It is width.

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    1. Re:hrumpf by nedlohs · · Score: 0

      She lied. Oh and you aren't wide either...

  5. If you're interested by aBaldrich · · Score: 1

    There is an excelent Stanford course in youtube.

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  6. delusional? by nitefallz · · Score: 1

    Did the study differentiate between "Happy" people and delusional people?

    1. Re:delusional? by rinoid · · Score: 1

      I have met these ... and those with pollyannaish tendencies (a different vector of delusion really). In the US, a lot of people tend to like folks such as these, take them on as subordinates, and promote them to their peter principle level. Not many adults enjoy the truth I've learned.

    2. Re:delusional? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      What's the difference?

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  7. Will wonders never cease by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

    and that's in no small part due to our individual genetic make-up.

    I know this is a semantically pedantic rant, but when I see comments like that, it just makes me want to face palm. Of course our genetic make-up determines who we are. Whether we're happy (as in this study), the color of our eyes, male/female/miscellaneous (Hindu! There are 700 million of us!), how tall we are or whatever, it is our genes that, almost without exception, determine who we are.

    To say otherwise, or feign surprise, is just stupid.

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    1. Re:Will wonders never cease by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Given the observed sensitivity, especially but not exclusively neonatal, to environmental influences, and the whole field of epigenetic study, it is neither obvious, nor obviously true, that our genetic make-up determines who we are.

      Thanks to twin studies and other convenient test populations, we've been able to determine that some things are extremely heritable; but that others are surprisingly minimally so. There are even a number of factors(mostly metabolic and neurological stuff that is laid down in utero) where the developing embryo takes enough chemical cues from mommy that a practically Lamarkian pattern of 'inheritance' is seen.

    2. Re:Will wonders never cease by DrgnDancer · · Score: 1

      Except that there's a lot of question about the environmental factors in many areas of development. Behavior is definitely one area where it has at least some effect. If I'm born genetically predisposed to mild depression, but I have a great family who support me, live a relatively "good" life, and maybe take up some sort of meditation practice, it's less likely that I'll be regularly depressed. I'll still be more inclined to it than someone without the genetic predisposition, but chances are I'll be happier overall than someone with my similar predisposition born into more unfortunate circumstances. The question isn't "do genetics impact happiness", of course they do. The questions are "how much do genetics impact happiness in the normal range of people" and "how precisely do they do so." Other studies focus on the first question, this study seems to focus more on the second.

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    3. Re:Will wonders never cease by delt0r · · Score: 1

      It is well known that a lot of what you are is *not* genetic. For example even this study showed that happiness is 60% not heritable. Your genes don't code for all the connections in your brain for example, there is simply not enough genetic material for that. More plain examples are iris patterns and fingerprints. But the list goes on. General Health, exercise and eating habits matter for a lot of things like happiness.

      The problem with its all genetics is that you are required to ignore a lot of data that just as many traits are not from your genes.

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    4. Re:Will wonders never cease by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      I know this is a semantically pedantic rant, but when I see comments like that, it just makes me want to face palm.

      Go ahead. Maybe you'll smack some sense into yourself.

      Whether we're happy (as in this study)

      You mean as in this study where the genetic factor was 30%, leaving 70% non-genetic?

      it is our genes that, almost without exception, determine who we are. To say otherwise, or feign surprise, is just stupid.

      Yeah, almost without exception, except the myriad exceptions that you yourself could probably spend all day reciting if you weren't determined to pursue the "Yawn, I am not surprised at this outcome" line even though your feigned non-surprise is completely stupid in this case.

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  8. we haven't really seen the real drugs yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how long before we make sense of it all, and are able to influence endogenous levels of dmt (happiness drug)-which binds to these 5-HT receptors

  9. heritable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a word you don't see every day. I wonder why they didn't just say hereditary? Perhaps they didn't think they could spell it?

  10. You need both sides of the coin. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If everyone was happy it wouldn't mean anything, not having been contrasted with sadness.

    1. Re:You need both sides of the coin. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      That's the sort of tosh that sounds very poetic; but is really nonsense.

      Moods don't "mean" things: they are physiological states, not symbols. Further, "happy" isn't something you infer by playing compare-and-contrast, it's the immediate introspective impression of a certain state(just as certain sensations on the skin are pleasant per se, not by contrast to being on fire.)

      Our present knowledge of psycho-pharmacology and neurology is blunt enough that shooting for permanent happiness is not a particularly good move; but that's a technological problem, not some sort of issue in epistemology.

    2. Re:You need both sides of the coin. by Toonol · · Score: 1

      I think you're too quick to dismiss the importance of relative moods. Pain or pleasure is often relative to a normal baseline, and if somebody never experiences pain, they will be terribly hurt by a small trauma. Similarly, a small bit of happiness in a miserable life can be transforming.

      I agree that all states aren't relative. I'd offer 'contentment' as an example. It's a wonderful feeling, and it doesn't really fade. You have it or you don't.

    3. Re:You need both sides of the coin. by Migraineman · · Score: 1

      "Happy" and "sad" are a bound pair - you can't have one without the other. If you were happy all the time, never experiencing sadness, the term "happy" would be meaningless. You would just "be."

      Your tongue rattles around inside your mouth all the time. Plenty of contact sensations there, the vast majority of which are ignored because they are always there. Munching a strawberry is pleasant; munching your tongue is unpleasant. So your tongue-contact state space decomposes into "pleasant," "unpleasant," and "meh." Pleasant and Unpleasant are a duality pair - eliminate one and the other goes with it. You're just left with "meh" at that point.

  11. Without you whiny demo-libtards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the contrary... we'd be partying non-stop.

  12. Hindu? by alexander_686 · · Score: 2

    They found a Hindu gene? Can you cite? And how close are they to fiinding the pentecostal gene yet?

    1. Re:Hindu? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Research suggests that pentecostalism, or "Episodic Parham's Aphasia", is environmentally induced, rather than genetic...

  13. Americans - not Black by alexander_686 · · Score: 4, Informative

    2 points.

    First - Yes - it has been obsered in the wild. That was the point of the study.

    Second - and this is imporant - they were testing "Black Americans". African gene are the most heterogeneous - which is what one would expect from the cradle of mankind. "Black Americans" genes are much more homogeneous since they were drawn from a limited pool. So while we can say this is true for Black Americans but it does not say anything about Africans in general.

  14. scrambled eggs in the bleacher seats by epine · · Score: 1

    Mob psychology is the echo chamber of common sense. And that's the good outcome. Even worse is nature/nurture where there was never much common sense to begin with.

    Yes, there are correlates on both sides despite one or more mixing rounds of bent functions.

    How does one perform medical epidemiology on an encryption block your kid sister wrote? Let's say your kid sister is Judit Polgar and she's almost smart enough to get this right (having not actually majored in math or computer science), but then you truncate to two rounds, so it's more like scrambling eggs with a spatula rather than an egg beater. This is a good model for the human nature/nurture system.

    Permute the keys bits holding the block bits constant. Permute the block bits holding the key bits constant. Throw this into a powerful statistics whizinart, then press "publish" to gasps and wows from the bleachers of humanity who are slow to grasp that their common sense on this matter is six feet under.

    Yeah, you can probably partition into dozens of sub-regions of statistically significant linearity manipulating the input bits on either side. There's many discernible chunks of white and yolk in the spastic scramble.

    Even if you take major features of culture (such as our universal 12 year educational system, which represents about a millisecond of our 80ka recent history) and correlate genes most amenable to this, there's a wide span of orbital radius as experienced by any particular member of the population.

    If a trillion dollars worth of epidemiology tells you less about a person on a quick reading of their gene chart than you get from an astute five minute introductory conversation, what exactly has all this research accomplished?

    What we will find eventually are a few genes or gene complexes which correlate strongly with the effectiveness/ineffectiveness of proposed interventions (such as reading assistance). The exact fractal coefficient on little peaks of signal exploitation is certainly a quantity of interest moving forward. I'm pretty sure it's bounded from above by log (panacea).

    We'll all become a tiny bit better at playing to strength. And most of the rest of the signal will fall below the noise floor of messy human affairs.

    Here's the surprise twist: astute assessment is thin on the ground (the sap to syrup problem) and nearly impossible to institutionalize. So unless our machines become astute ASAP (as some predict), we'll probably press forward with the institutional seal club of genomic aphorism.

    1. Re:scrambled eggs in the bleacher seats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's time for you to stop smoking whatever you were smoking when you wrote this.

    2. Re:scrambled eggs in the bleacher seats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, is this a joke?

      Not a single thing you said made sense. I have never seen so many rambling disconnected ideas together at once. It's like looking the writings of a schizophrenic person.

      Please tell me this is a joke or you have some kind of profound mental illness. It bothers me to think a regular person who thinks the way you do could really be out there amongst us.

    3. Re:scrambled eggs in the bleacher seats by psydeshow · · Score: 1

      I'm one of the dozens nodding my head, great comment.

      Play the enlightenment game to its logical conclusions and we *do* get to tease the yolk and the whites apart someday, if we aren't fixated on much more important problems by then. In the meantime, the someone will figure out how to use these studies to make back all the money that went into them, and more.

    4. Re:scrambled eggs in the bleacher seats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, is this a joke?

      Not a single thing you said made sense. I have never seen so many rambling disconnected ideas together at once. It's like looking the writings of a schizophrenic person.

      Please tell me this is a joke or you have some kind of profound mental illness. It bothers me to think a regular person who thinks the way you do could really be out there amongst us.

      How does one perform medical epidemiology on an encryption block your kid sister wrote? Easy using 3D trap itself generally consists of two hyperbolic metal electrodes with their foci facing each other and a hyperbolic ring electrode halfway between the other two electrodes. The ions are trapped in the space between these three electrodes by AC (oscillating, non-static) and DC (non-oscillating, static) electric fields. The AC radio frequency voltage oscillates between the two hyperbolic metal end cap electrodes if ion excitation is desired; the driving AC voltage is applied to the ring electrode. The ions are first pulled up and down axially while being pushed in radially. The ions are then pulled out radially and pushed in axially (from the top and bottom). In this way the ions move in a complex motion that generally involves the cloud of ions being long and narrow and then short and wide, back and forth, oscillating between the two states. Since the mid-1980s most 3D traps (Paul traps) have used ~1 mtorr of helium. The use of damping gas and the mass-selective instability mode developed by Stafford et al. led to the first commercial 3D ion traps.[3]Linear Ion Trap at the University of Calgary
      The quadrupole ion trap has two configurations: the three dimensional form described above and the linear form made of 4 parallel electrodes. A simplified rectilinear configuration has also been used.[4] The advantage of the linear design is in its simplicity, but this leaves a particular constraint on its modeling. To understand how this originates, it is helpful to visualize the linear form. The Paul trap is designed to create a saddle-shaped field to trap a charged ion, but with a quadrupole, this saddle-shaped electric field cannot be rotated about an ion in the centre. It can only ‘flap’ the field up and down. For this reason, the motions of a single ion in the trap are described by the Mathieu Equations. These equations can only be solved numerically, or equivalently by computer simulations.
      The intuitive explanation and lowest order approximation is the same as strong focusing in accelerator physics. Since the field affects the acceleration, the position lags behind (to lowest order by half a period). So the particles are at defocused positions when the field is focusing and vice versa. Being farther from center, they experience a stronger field when the field is focusing than when it is defocusing.

    5. Re:scrambled eggs in the bleacher seats by Hythlodaeus · · Score: 1

      That post was art.

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  15. The opposite of that... by Moridineas · · Score: 2

    Not that I put much store in such things, but studies and surveys show your statement is totally backwards--republicans (or, more specifically, conservatives) tend to be happier than democrats (liberals):

    http://www.freakonomics.com/2008/04/23/conservatives-are-happier-than-liberals-discuss/

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=BABCDEA5-D180-499B-094168CBE5442468

    On a purely anecdotal level, I would say that I would categorize more of my conservative friends as "happy people" than I would my liberal friends. There are of course dozens of exceptions, and, like I said, I don't put much store in this stuff anyway (especially non-scientific anecdotal).

    1. Re:The opposite of that... by Toonol · · Score: 1

      Republicans have a higher proportion of married people and parents than democrats. That might contribute to their higher happiness levels.

      Another might be the urban/rural split. Urban dwellers are more likely democrat, and also more likely miserable. I noted a while ago that democrats are more likely to launch into profanity on a bulletin board than republicans... I eventually decided that it has nothing to do with politics, but just a side effect of democrats being generally more urban and younger.

    2. Re:The opposite of that... by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Republicans have a higher proportion of married people and parents than democrats. That might contribute to their higher happiness levels.

      On slashdot I've previously been cited statistics that show parents are actually -- at all stages of life -- unhappier than non-parents. I'm a new parent (2-year-old) and that doesn't match my experience, but again, anecdotal...

      Another might be the urban/rural split. Urban dwellers are more likely democrat, and also more likely miserable. I noted a while ago that democrats are more likely to launch into profanity on a bulletin board than republicans... I eventually decided that it has nothing to do with politics, but just a side effect of democrats being generally more urban and younger.

      I've always thought city dwellers seem miserable, but apparently some people like the urban lifestyle. I would mostly agree about profanity / getting really upset on messageboards seems dominated by leftists, but have you noticed on news sites that now use facebook for comments? It's unbelievable how racist, classist, sexist, hateful, etc people will be -- on the record with their real name and picture! It definitely spans the political spectrum too. Unbelievable.

  16. Doesn't seem right. by xyourfacekillerx · · Score: 1

    I have depression and have had it since I was 16. My parents don't. My brothers don't. No one in my family on either side suffers from it. And yet, SSRI's work for me, not NRI's, DRI's or MAOI's. I wouldn't associate it with genetics based purely on subjective observations.

    1. Re:Doesn't seem right. by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      I've been told I'm "abnormally happy" by a few folks over the years, and it has made me wonder - my mother was bi-polar, my oldest sister is also bi-polar, my second oldest sister has schizophrenia, and the third oldest sister is chronically depressed. Is chronic happiness also a mental illness? I have occasionally bouts of sadness or anger, but they never last more than a few hours and I can usually sleep it off. I always thought I had just inherited my father's stoic personality, but sometimes I wonder if "chronic happiness" is as much of an inbalance as chronic depression. Even my husband doesn't understand why I'm so chilled out, even if there are things I should be worrying about.

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      Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
  17. Postmodernist philosophers went wild reading that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am certain dozens were nodding their heads in fervent agreement.

  18. So my genes aren't any good? by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

    That's so depressing. :(

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    Please do not read this sig. Thank you.
  19. I'm Skeptical by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

    Here's the caveat in the actual paper:

    We nd evidence of signicant association in both data sets,
    suggesting that the SLC6A4 gene may play a role in explaining subjective
    well-being. While we do not claim that SLC6A4 determines happiness, nor
    do we exclude the possibility that several other genes may also play a role,
    we do think that the results suggest at least one possible causal pathway
    able to account for the inuence of genes on happiness

    Here's a quote from The Economist describing the paper:

    Recent work on both these fronts suggests that happiness is highly heritable . . . so, presumably, the tendency to be happy or miserable is, to some extent, passed on through DNA.

    "Suggests" is a scientific weasel word that can be improperly read by morons as "concludes." Or intentionally misconstrued by journalists because a study that doesn't conclude anything and merely provides a data set that may be useful in the future isn't that interesting and they want clicks. Doing more studies may show a regression toward the mean. A more nuanced classification of the participants may suggest something else. Call me a skeptic - I'll take it as a compliment. Skepticism is logical. Drawing conclusions from this study is not.

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    "From the depths of my skeptical and rationalist soul, I ask the Lord to protect me from California touchie-feeliedom."
  20. Where have I heard this before...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    African Americans with the most long alleles, whites in the middle, and Asians with short alleles. I'm Asian and my alleles are just fine, thanks!

  21. Nope by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    "Black Americans" genes are much more homogeneous since they were drawn from a limited pool.

    Not after two or three generations of 'Massa' creeping out for some action in the slave quarters (and occasionally dying of pneumonia during Virginia winter visits, ahem).

  22. William Blake by BilliamBlake · · Score: 1

    Every Night and every Morn,
    Some to Misery are Born.
    Every Morn & every Night,
    Some are Born to Sweet Delight.
    Some are Born to Sweet Delight,
    Some are Born to Endless Night.

    - William Blake

  23. Does This Explain Socio-Economic Conditions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe this can explain socioeconomic conditions as well. Perhaps this is why American blacks don't seem to have as many overachievers and mostly live in poverty (even with the huge amount of opportunities they have compared to the rest of the world). Even though they complain about being downtrodden, because of this happiness genetics they are already a bit more naturally happy than the next guy, so don't have as much of a driving force to get out of the ghettos. It might also explain why poor Asians arriving from crappy countries manage to get themselves and their families in general out of poverty quickly, raising doctors, lawyers, and engineers. Most boat people type of immigrant Asians start out at the same poverty level as many American blacks (or even lower), but given the same opportunities as blacks and that the Asians are never naturally happier, they try to achieve happiness through work and competitive success (e.g. making money) in the workforce. And white folks who seem to be in the middle in this study, are in the middle in this way as well. Sure this is a generalization, but that is what statistics are, and why they reflect real life. I just hope American blacks don't see this as making an excuse, since as a group and as individuals they are in reality just as capable as the next person when, like everyone else, they get moving (and given that other poor peoples broken out by ethnic group don't seem to allow themselves as a group to feel or be trapped in poverty like the American black). Except everyone else gets moving sooner since they aren't as able to feel happy wherever they are any given moment in their life. Posting A/C since the politically correct here will likely hate this open dialog.

  24. Or is it Memetically Heritable.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems most studies of heritable traits do not differentiate between genetic and memetic heritability. Memetic is transference by meme, as opposed to transference by gene. Criticisms of memetics focused on their instability as being too much to be meaningul, in evolutionary terms. I agree so long as they are referring to the focus of most past memetic research on memes like in pop culture and in contemporary advertising, such as "got milk?" and all its variants.

    However, memes straddle a broad progression of stability levels from the extremely stable like concepts in language, to mid-level stability such as trades, cultural values, and commonly held beliefs, to the highly unstable as I mention above.

    What memetic factors might influence happiness? How about a culture of optimism verses pessimism? What about value of not being a quitter? How about being a diligent worker, being socially hostile, or just socially different and thereby not well accepted like many readers of slashdot?

  25. Re: SSRIs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone with a severe anxiety disorder who's on a fairly high dose of an SSRI (or, more accurately, a SNRI--though I have taken two different SSRIs previously), I have to say that it has massively improved my life, by making the anxiety I experience pretty much that of an ordinary person, and I've neither lost any of the highs or lows, nor found myself more complacent (and the same is true for the SSRIs I took previously). I've been on this SNRI for many years now, and during that time, far from being complacent or lacking drive, I've moved halfway across the world to pursue a PhD (which is going well!), and undertaken numerous new and demanding projects. I've also had periods of great sadness and worry, and feeling extremely down (though in a 'normal', rather than unmanageable way, as I would feel off the SNRI), and also experienced complete elation and periods of enormous happiness. People tend to react very differently to the various SSRIs and SNRIs--which is why it may take some difficult trial and error to find the right one for you at first. And, it is possible that none might work for a given person; but, I would hate for anyone to suffer untreated through the hell of an anxiety disorder on the mistaken assumption that they would necessarily lose the normal ups and downs of life on any SSRI they took. I did experience that 'flattening' on one SSRI, but I stopped taking it right away and found a far better option for me. Good luck!

  26. How do you feel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I feel like 5HTT!

  27. SSRI Myths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Baseline happiness can arguably be negatively correlated to competitiveness, drive and success. You are naturally happy, so you don't worry about making things better for yourself or your children, you just go with the flow because things are pretty good the way they are.

    Check out the decisions of people before and after they go on an SSRI. The small sample of SSRI users I know tend to fall into a complacent, ultimately self destructive, state when they are on the pills for too long (6 months or more). It's not something I've seen widely published in the literature, just personal observation shared between myself and other non-SSRI users about SSRI users we know.

    There are lots of myths about anti depressants out there. Some by the "Say no to drugs" types or the crazies (Tom Cruise).

    I definitely disagree with the self destructive part.

    I take anti depressants and have been for years. They make it possible for me to be happy. I still have bad days. I have happy days. But without the ADs, I would be unhappy/depressed all the time. It's just like someone saying "Without my prevacid, I'd have acid upset all the time" or "Without my metformin (diabetes drug) I'd have high sugar all the time and feel awful".

    Some things that are true:
    They have a ramp up/ramp down time. Most take 6 weeks before you can tell it's working. There's a wash out time too. If you switch medicines, you have to ramp down and up. You will go through depression again. Imagine if you had to do that with antibiotics?

    If you don't take them every day, you will not get the full effect. I take mine morning & night. If I forget one, I will get a headache. Just like if I skip my morning coffee I get a caffeine headache. It's a withdrawal symptom.

    Everyone is affected differently. Some might do well with paxil, some might not be affected at all. It's not like penicillin where it has the same affect on everyone that takes it. It takes awhile to find the right one.

    They have side effects that vary per patient. Zoloft made me zone out. paxil made me grind my teeth. Other patients will be affected differently. You might have to search for the right one for you.

    If you stop taking them, they might not work when if you start up again. I tried St. John's Wort (9 weeks before it takes effect, 3 times a day too) and it worked. I stopped 6 months later. After 3 months, I got depressed again. It no longer worked on me and I went to the pharmacuticals with my Dr. I had another AD stop working and had to switch.

    Imagine if you were taking amoxicillian and it wasn't working. So you ramp down, get your infection back stronger, switch to zitromax and that works. And next time you took amoxicillian it no longer worked.

    FWIW - people break into pharmacies to get Oxycodin. They don't do that for antidepressants because they don't make you high.

  28. Happiness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://ceomagazine.biz/hrmproverbs/happinessproverbs.htmh