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New Mac OS Trojan Produces BitCoins

angry tapir writes about an interesting use for malware. From the Techworld article: "A newly identified Mac OS X Trojan bundles a component that leverages the processing power of video cards to generate Bitcoins, a popular type of virtual currency. The new Trojan was dubbed DevilRobber by antivirus vendors and is being distributed together with several software applications via BitTorrent sites."

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  1. Joke's on them. by MrQuacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Scamcoins arent worth anything anymore....

    1. Re:Joke's on them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I would imagine that they're being mined because they have value.

    2. Re:Joke's on them. by phungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The mining difficulty has been dropping in relation to the number of miners that have been leaving the network. This is exactly how the system was designed, and it's a good thing, because now I'm making more coins than I was before. :-)

      Lots of folks have mining hardware that was paid off in the $30 days and now they still run for free at work or wherever. Not everyone is paying for electricity.

    3. Re:Joke's on them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they're stealing electricity from their workplace to do pointless busywork for bitcoins, that seems like a net loss for society. Unless they work for Holocaust Enterprises LLC. or something.

    4. Re:Joke's on them. by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2

      ...that seems like a net loss for society.

      Yes. Too bad it's become unfashionable to care about that.

    5. Re:Joke's on them. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      ...from the Rossi cold fusion project! And then you spend the carbon credits to offset your mining rigs and the circle of bullshit is complete.

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  2. "...the processing power of video cards..." by willoughby · · Score: 5, Funny

    As an owner of a Mac Mini let me just say, "Thank God, I'm safe!".

    1. Re:"...the processing power of video cards..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Look at the comment you replied to. Now look at the one that that was in reply to. Now go wooosh yourself.

    2. Re:"...the processing power of video cards..." by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      Spammers have ways to automagically create accounts. Usually the spam accounts only create one message.

  3. Just works! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I use MACs because they just work!

    --A virus writer.

    1. Re:Just works! by meerling · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are very very few new viruses anymore, it's been like that for years. The problem is the media calls bloody everything a virus, even program glitches on occasion.
      But it is malware, and it's a lot more than just a trojan. It's also backdoor, and phisher. It's a nasty little package, especially for anyone that thinks macs are immune.
      Didn't see any mention of it having and poison pill functions if someone tries to remove it.

    2. Re:Just works! by CapuchinSeven · · Score: 2

      That's because the type of crap Microsoft let walk all over it's operating systems in the 90's was just that, viruses.

    3. Re:Just works! by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      except on the windows platform. There are still plenty that can infect without the user running it as administrator because of crapware called MS office and Adobe Reader that do not run sandboxed but run so that when they overflow they give the code root level access.

      Again, it's the craptastic security model of Windows.

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    4. Re:Just works! by SharkLaser · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Except on iPhone, which are remotely rootable via exploits where you only need to visit a website to gain root on the device. But for some reason the fanboys have turned this into a good thing (yay, jailbreak!)

    5. Re:Just works! by Graham+J+-+XVI · · Score: 2

      That hasn't been true since 4.3.4.

    6. Re:Just works! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      LOLWUT? Adobe Reader is a top infection vector, right up there with Flash and the JRE, and MS Office apps are still relatively popular targets.

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  4. A perfect storm of trolling by alostpacket · · Score: 4, Funny

    A Mac Trojan and a Bitcoin story in one! Quick someone tie this into global warming!

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    1. Re:A perfect storm of trolling by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A Mac Trojan and a Bitcoin story in one! Quick someone tie this into global warming!

      What's there to tie into global warming...? Of course the production
      of bitcoins uses processor or GPU, which uses electricity, which
      pollutes the atmosphere cause it's the electricity from the coal plants
      ONLY and not from the nuke plants... but the nuke plants are just
      as bad cause they are all susceptible to tsunamis, even the inland
      ones.

      So, yeah, I added global warming AND nuke, there!

      -AI

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  5. Follow the Trail by igreaterthanu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As BitCoin transactions aren't anonymous, in fact they are completely public, it would be trivial to follow where the BitCoins end up - hopefully to catch the malware author.

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    1. Re:Follow the Trail by Rinisari · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not perfect anonymity, but there are ways to stay safer by using multiple BTC addresses and such.

      https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity

    2. Re:Follow the Trail by BitZtream · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I was doing this, I would have done it just to be a dick, not to profit. That means I'd make it run on a Mac just to go along with the 'macs don't get viruses' meme, and I'd do bit coin mining for no reason other than to devalue it into oblivion because I'm sick Of seeing silly arguments over fiat currancies versus gold backed ones.

      Not everything is about monetary gain. Sometimes people are just dicks.

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    3. Re:Follow the Trail by throwaway18 · · Score: 2

      Applying more computer power to bitcoin mining won't devalue bitcoin any more than it will anyway. The software adjusts the difficulty of generating blocks so that it generates approximately 7200 BTC every day for the next year, fewer after that. More computing power applies to mining just means that individual people mining get a smaller share of the coins being generated.

    4. Re:Follow the Trail by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      There are no gold backed ones, so an argument is one person who believes in a fictitious currency, vs one who believes in a currency with fictitious value.

    5. Re:Follow the Trail by DrXym · · Score: 2

      And if the trojan's CPU power represents a significant % then the coins go to the trojan operator. The trojan operator is likely to sell them and the currency devalues even further. That's the point.

  6. Re:Unnecessary Definition is Unnecessary by PessimysticRaven · · Score: 2

    that leverages the processing power of video cards to generate Bitcoins, a popular type of virtual currency.

    At that rate, summary might as well have said: ""

    Well, hell. One day, the summary is too terse and doesn't explain enough.. The next day, the summary explains a single term (that, truthfully, no one pays attention to), and suddenly, that's too much?

    Fickle bastards, we are.

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  7. Re:You laugh, and we profit. by jjohnson · · Score: 2

    How much have you actually pulled out in dollars or gold? i.e., converted to a stable currency that's reasonably guaranteed to hold its value steadily instead of fluctuating a lot. Assuming that bitcoin mining is a good investment, bitcoin's volatility makes it a poor store of value over the longer term.

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  8. Re:You laugh, and we profit. by Khyber · · Score: 2

    Seems like you're totally incapable of doing day to day trading.

    Oh well. Not my problem. I've made my money, 6-700X what I invested.

    Perhaps you should stop listening to Austrians and Keynesians for economic advice.

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  9. Re:Hahahahaha by thoughtfulbloke · · Score: 2

    Didn't you read the summary?

  10. Re:New Trojan produces Quantitative Easing by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because bitcoins want to be free! And, and, they're like... BEER! And... noone accepts them for anything, so you can save a LOT of 'em without being tempted to spend 'em! An... an... they keep you from having to do Real Work! "Honey, don't bother me, I'm minting bitcoins!"

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  11. Re:Hahahahaha by mcmonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    They make GPUs

  12. Not popular, not currency by GrandCow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bitcoin is in a lot of trouble at the moment.

    It is not popular, since the speculators have mostly disappeared at this point. They got in on the market upswing, moving the price to almost $30 per bitcoin for a brief moment. As soon as the speculators reached their plateau, the sell-off began. Bitcoins are selling for 5-10% of what they were selling at their peak. You can expect to get between $1.50 and $3.00 per bitcoin at this point. The true believers still claim that it's coming back, but a single look at any price graph shows that in the end, anything you put into bitcoin is a lost cause. The price continues to drop as more people get out and sell what they have, plus the people "mining" bitcoins selling at whatever the current lowest price is. ALL of the major exchanges have been "hacked" at some point. I say this in quotes because there has never been any proof that the owners of each exchange didn't just decide to take the money and run, which they could have done at any time with ZERO repercussions. One of the larger exchanges was blatant enough to take everything but offer 49% back of what you lost if you'd just use them again (but accept the service fees), as opposed to the others that just delete the website and sell the coins on other markets.

    The reason that this is all possible is: bitcoin isn't a currency! It is the same as trading rocks with numbers painted on them to say how much they are worth; this means there is no regulation. It's not anywhere near any other currency in the world because it doesn't have a government backing up it's value. As much as the different sites claim that it is going to change the world, bitcoin itself is being challenged in court and both results are bad for it. If it is declared a currency, the regulations alone will destroy it. If it is declared not a currency (which it is not), it will be destroyed by all sorts of fraud charges.

    Stay away from bitcoin at all costs.

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    1. Re:Not popular, not currency by DrXym · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course it is in trouble. It's always been in trouble. It's naively implemented, the client software was insecure, many of the exchanges were insecure, it faced (and still does) huge regulatory questions, it was a magnet for scammers, hackers & drug dealers, it was hyped through group think into a huge bubble which has since collapsed, people hoarded coins rather than spending them and are now panic selling, and the system itself has many of the characteristics of a ponzi / pyramid scheme. I'm sure some people profited from it, and many more didn't. It's a broken system and this much has been obvious for a long time.

    2. Re:Not popular, not currency by subreality · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some of us are glad to see the price drop. I just want to send money to people without PayPal taking a cut or getting a say in who I can send it to. As such, it makes no difference to me what the price is - I can send 3 coins worth $10 or 10 coins worth $3, and it's all the same.

      The price drop has crushed the "get rich quick" crowd, and good riddance. Hopefully they learned their lesson and will stay gone so the rest of us can get back to actually trying to USE Bitcoin for something, and see what it's good for.

      Even if it still has terminal problems, it's a damned interesting experiment. We've already learned some important things - like, don't set your currency up so it can turn into a pyramid scheme. Hopefully that's burned itself out, and we can see what the next problem will be. The more we learn, the better Bitcoin2 will be.

      A few quick debunks:

      No, not all the exchanges have been hacked. MtGox (the big one) got hacked, but had adequate second-line defenses in place to contain the problem, and it didn't affect customers. Bitcoin7 was a bunch of incompetent dorks from the start. We told that to the world, but hey, some people don't listen. MyBitcoin was a wallet service run completely anonymously... I still find it unbelievable that people would give their money to some anonymous guy who promises to be really careful with it. I guess we needed the example to teach people the hard way? Those are all black eyes, but there are far more services that have been running smoothly.

      Bitcoin is different from painting numbers on rocks. Anyone can paint numbers on rocks and devalue the rest of them. Bitcoins are generated in fixed quantities (500 per hour, decreasing to 250 per hour in about a year, with further decreases in the future), resulting in a small and predictable amount of inflation.

      It is a currency: you can trade it for things. It might not have the same properties as some currencies you're used to, and it's quite possible it's not a good currency depending how you want to use it, but it is most certainly a currency.

      Declaring it a currency doesn't destroy it through regulation. There are many non-federal-government-issue currencies operating in the United States without problem.

      There IS a lot of fraud occurring. That's largely because people are used to electronic transactions being like PayPal or Visa - highly traceable and reversible. Bitcoin is much more like cash - don't give it to someone unless you trust them! That's an inherent tradeoff, but not necessarily a design flaw. Like I said, I don't want PayPal looking over my shoulder, telling me I can't send money for porn or WikiLeaks, and taking a cut for the privilege. I want something that works like cash, and I accept the responsibility that securing my cash requires! When (if?) people learn to see it that way, the fraud will decline. Again, it's not for everyone and everything, but I think it has a place.

    3. Re:Not popular, not currency by petermgreen · · Score: 2

      Some of us are glad to see the price drop. I just want to send money to people without PayPal taking a cut or getting a say in who I can send it to. As such, it makes no difference to me what the price is - I can send 3 coins worth $10 or 10 coins worth $3, and it's all the same.

      But what do you do with those coins when you receive them?

      If you keep them then you are exposing yourself to the massive price volatility and general decline of bitcoin's value.
      If you sell them and keep your money on the exchange you will likely be hit with fees for the trade and you are putting your money at risk of the exchange going tits-up.
      If you sell them and withdraw your money you will pay even more fees.

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  13. Re:You laugh, and we profit. by SharkLaser · · Score: 3

    Yep, Bitcoinica offers shorting and leverages.

  14. Re:New Trojan produces Quantitative Easing by throwaway18 · · Score: 2

    Anyone can mine bitcoins, you don't have to be a politically connected bankster to participate.

    The creation of new BTC is predictable and publicly documented.
    Participation is voluntary. Anyone can read about how it works, see that the the amount of BTC in circulation is going to more than double in the next five years, see that the level of commerce with BTC is low and decide if they want to hold any. (Personally I think holding BTC is a bad idea and will be for a years unless commerce increases considerably.)

    Having your fiat currency devalued to cover the deficit spending of long retired spendthrift politicans is not voluntary.

  15. Re:You laugh, and we profit. by tehcyder · · Score: 2

    Not my problem. I've made my money, 6-700X what I invested.

    The people who get in near the beginning of a pyramid scheme often make money. But hopefully, it gets confiscated when they're sent to prison.

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  16. Re:Imagine in real life by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2

    For those times when my wife decides to cook. It is either burned or still needs to be killed. This is why I cook. Plus a hammer works wonders on tough meat to tenderize it, this is why I also do the grocery shopping now as well.

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