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Windows Phone Unlock Tool Goes Official

judgecorp writes "A tool to unlock (or 'jailbreak' if you like) Windows Phone devices is now available with Microsoft's blessing. ChevronWP7 Labs was withdrawn at Microsoft's request a year ago, but is back now, allowing users to run any app on their phones for a cost of $9."

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  1. I would have had first post by dyingtolive · · Score: 2

    But Microsoft withdrew it a year ago.

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    1. Re:I would have had first post by grcumb · · Score: 2

      Shit, I actually got first post. I guess I get downmodded now, right? :(

      No, but you owe us $9.00.

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    2. Re:I would have had first post by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

      you are about to be sued by apple for use of "app" and "store" in the same sentence with out the words apple, ios, mac, or itunes fallowed by a (TM).

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  2. Seriously? by masternerdguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's sad when Microsoft is more forward thinking than Apple isn't it.

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    1. Re:Seriously? by nepka · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Microsoft has always been. Windows is practically open platform and the mobile versions have always been too. Not in the open source sense, but users are free to install and do what they want. Apple is the only company that wants to control that.

    2. Re:Seriously? by Desler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why? WinMo allowed you to install what you wanted without having to use an app store and to create apps you could use anything language that could be used for regular windows development. Apple's marketshare and app store success is the reason wp7 is more locked down.

    3. Re:Seriously? by nepka · · Score: 2

      Well, isn't that similarly true for every app? On mobile phones and desktop too.

      Microsoft does actually have their own version too, it's what developers buy and it costs $99/year. It does come with extras, like the right to publish your apps in the store.

    4. Re:Seriously? by h4rr4r · · Score: 3, Insightful

      BullFuckingShit. Very few android phones have unknown sources blocked and all those can have apps installed in other ways.

      When I can do a git of the Windows phone code, then it is starting to get close.

    5. Re:Seriously? by nepka · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Losing to what? Windows market share has been really stable for like 15 years. OSX has gained some market share, but even that is tiny compared to Windows (especially outside US). Linux market share has always been around 0.5% and isn't changing anytime soon. Windows has so large market share (over 90%) that they really cannot get it much higher.

    6. Re:Seriously? by lexman098 · · Score: 2

      Microsoft has been losing market share over the past decade or so precisely because it was not forward thinking! If you disagree, what other explanation do you have?

      "Forward thinking" doesn't necessarily translate to "ability to predict what's most profitable". So what if they couldn't predict that people wouldn't give a shit if a device was locked down and expensive as hell as long as it was shiny and hip? They're "forward thinking" in the sense that they're open to people using their software in unintended ways.

    7. Re:Seriously? by imric · · Score: 2

      Cyanogen isn't using Android?

      What next, you going to claim they are stealing the code?

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    8. Re:Seriously? by MrHanky · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah, losing market share. What I find funny is that Windows 7 caught up to Windows XP's user share (according to StatCounter) in just six months more than the iPad used to catch up with Linux's (both happening pretty much at the same time, around these days). That's with Microsoft supposedly losing and the iPad supposedly heralding the post-PC era. I'd love to be losing like Microsoft.

    9. Re:Seriously? by MrHanky · · Score: 3, Informative

      Christ. Here's the Git repo and download instructions. Google did ask CyanogenMod to stop distributing its Google apps (Market, etc.), but not Android itself. You can download those apps separately, and I'm sure Google could restrict those devices from using Market if they tried. Perhaps your mother should have taught you not to lie.

    10. Re:Seriously? by errandum · · Score: 2

      Actually, I saw some study on why the growth of mac os x didn't mean the decline of windows... Most people that own a mac still boot into windows sometimes and/or have a windows machine somewhere that they use to do those things mac os x can't (like play games or open highly formatted word documents).

      I'm a prime example, in my houshold we own 3 macs, but I'm currently typing from a windows machine (:

      So, yeah, I agree that windows isn't loosing it's spot anytime soon, unless they decide that windows 8 won't be backward compatible and a closed platform at the same time (or something like that).

    11. Re:Seriously? by Imbrondir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a horrible day for software freedom in general when Microsoft gets applauded for charging you 9$ to install applications on a device that you already own.

    12. Re:Seriously? by jbolden · · Score: 2

      Microsoft has been losing market share over the past decade or so precisely because it was not forward thinking!

      I suggest you spend some time at research.microsoft.com

      If you disagree, what other explanation do you have?

      It is hard to maintain a near monopoly. Earnings per share are up about 5x in the last decade. They ain't doing too bad.

  3. Wow, I would not have believed this a decade ago by Superken7 · · Score: 2

    I would not have expected this sort of news from Microsoft a decade ago. Then again, maybe we are getting too used to Apple.

    I think this is a nice move by MS :)

  4. It's a scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You pay the $9 to run your own apps on the phone, right. But only atmost 5 of them. Yes, there is a limit on the number of apps you are allowed to run on your very own phone. And you have to pay for that. Pathetic.

  5. Re:Worst Possible Option by nepka · · Score: 3, Informative

    1) App market works just like before
    2) The $9 price tag isn't from Microsoft, it's from the guy who made the unlocker. He is selling it.

  6. A note about the group that worked on it by gcnaddict · · Score: 2

    Rafael Rivera generally tends to hold a good deal of trust and clout amongst Windows enthusiasts (shock and awe that there's such a crowd, I know) in that he's known specifically for thoroughly investigating a product. He always produces a high quality service, product, workaround, etc. for whatever his project happens to be, and has provided many of the safe patches that unlock hidden functionality during previous Windows alpha and beta releases.

    His involvement in this project and in other general Windows reverse-engineering gigs in the past leads me to believe that ChevronWP7 is a solid and safe release. The fact that Microsoft endorsed this is not at all a surprise.

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  7. Re:Worst Possible Option by Sir_Sri · · Score: 2

    Without threat of him being shut down by microsoft, and presumably if they're sanctioning it there's some trick on the corporate side or something. They can probably sell a US government version where the unlocker won't work or things along those lines.

  8. Re:Wow, I would not have believed this a decade ag by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You would not have expected Microsoft a decade ago to release an open operating system while Apple released a vertically integrated and closed down market?

    Microsoft is many things, but bending over backwards to let anything run on their systems (including malware) has been one of the greatest strengths and weaknesses since the beginning.

  9. Re:Wow, I would not have believed this a decade ag by Riceballsan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microsoft has never been the direction apple is. While shutting out competition was always a strong stance of theirs. Preventing competition from running on their OS or any devices they run has never been a high priority. I do have to admit, Xbox is probably the most independent developer friendly console (out of the top 3 competitors of course), Microsoft has never attempted to discourage people from using any software on windows. That is kinda how MS kicked apples ass back in the day. (Macs were strongly against allowing competition to design hardware, Microsoft encoraged a huge compeating pricewar to drive down hardware prices and boost software sales.)

  10. Re:What does it not do that the previous version d by cbhacking · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately, there's a barrier in Mango (whether you use the marketplace developer account dev-unlock, which has been available from day 1, or ChevronWP7 Labs which is essentially the same thing from the phone's perspective) that prevents apps from getting high-permission access (specificlaly, prevents opening a handle on a driver, which is the standard way to break out of the low-privilege app sandbox on WP7). To do this, an app needs to specify the "INTEROPSERVICES" capability in its manifest, and by default Mango blocks installing or running non-marketplace apps with this capability. NoDo and below did not - that's how people were able to do file browsers, registry editors, tethering apps, and so forth - but this restriction is part of Mango.

    You can still run some homebrew apps, including native code, but only with low permissions. While it's useful to know there's limits on what an app can do, I'd really like to be able to remove those limits on apps I trust. A webserver that demonstrates access to the full socket API, including TCP server sockets (the official API only has client sockets) is cool, but there's a lot more that you could do.

    Fortunately, there's a way around this restiction also built into the OS. The process of removing this restriction is called "interop-unlock" by the guys who discovered it, and is possible easily on LG phones (change the MaxUnsignedApp registry value to 300 or more using the built-in registry editor), possible on Samsung phones (instructions and app here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963), and difficult if possible at all on HTC phones (requires rolling back to pre-Mango, which isn't possible on new devices). No solution at all for Dell, Toshiba, or Nokia yet.

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  11. Re:Wow, I would not have believed this a decade ag by Microlith · · Score: 2

    This isn't an "open" system by any stretch of the imagination. It's basically charging people $9 for the ability to sideload software, something Android enables via a checkbox. The security systems remain 100% in force.

    I'd be impressed if it put the user in control of the security systems, rather than let Microsoft retain that control (oh, and if it were free and not $9.)