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Army Plots Its Smartphone Strategy

gManZboy writes "What kind of smartphone should a soldier have? Ahead of the impending expiration of two communications contracts, the Army's 5th Signal Command is prepping for the possibility of buying thousands of mobile devices. An RFI asks for BlackBerrys, 'emerging smartphones included but not limited to 4G devices such as Androids [and] iPhones,' tablet computers, and wireless broadband access devices. Also in the Army mobile vision: an apps marketplace."

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  1. iPhones win by default by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Blackberry - designed by untrustworthy Canadians
    Android - based on Linux which was written by communists
    iPhone - designed by Apple in California

    1. Re:iPhones win by default by Jimme+Blue · · Score: 5, Funny

      Blackberry - designed by untrustworthy Canadians
      Android - based on Linux which was written by communists
      iPhone - designed by Apple in California

      I think by this logic it's going to have to go to Microsoft (unfortunately):
        - Blackberry => Canadians => socialists => communists
        - Android => Linux => communists
        - iPhone => Apple => California => communists

        - LatestMicrosoftPhoneSoftware => Microsoft => Washington => Confused With Washington, DC => Pentagon => DoD => Command Driven Economy => Shit.......Never mind.

      iPhones win by default!

    2. Re:iPhones win by default by ProfM · · Score: 3, Informative
      The US military has already embraced Linux.

      Army National Guard Using Linux

      My guess is that they'll go Android, simply for the fact they CAN change and update the OS to be more secure than it currently is.

    3. Re:iPhones win by default by a.phoenicis · · Score: 4, Informative

      Clearly, you don't know much about the iOS Dev environment. Under Apple's current development terms, organizations can already set up and deploy to their own privately managed App Distribution systems for their own privately signed devices. This would be no different.

    4. Re:iPhones win by default by GauteL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also Apple is very unlikely to agree to make custom military units with whatever requirements the military has. It's just not their thing.

      They'll be better served customising Android and should have no trouble finding a hardware vendor.

      As a side note, knowing the military the requirements will be decided by committee, resulting in something in that weighs 5 pounds to satisfy all the criteria.

    5. Re:iPhones win by default by Macrat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Also Apple is very unlikely to agree to make custom military units with whatever requirements the military has. It's just not their thing.

      Apple already makes custom builds of laptops without cameras per 3 letter agency security requirements.

    6. Re:iPhones win by default by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Clearly he doesn't know much about the DoD or Apple either. This kind of conversation usually goes something like this:

      DoD: Hello, we have a basically unlimited pile of money.
      Apple: Hmm. Money, you say? We collect that stuff, can we have some?
      DoD: We'd like a hundred thousand iPhones, a signing key that allows us to deploy any software onto them, and the source code for review.
      Apple: Yes, yes, whatever. How much money were we talking about?
      DoD: A really big pile.
      Apple: Will a signature in blood be okay? We have some new interns...

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  2. Vastly increased battery life required by DarkFencer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whatever they get, they need to have vastly increased battery life over the consumer versions.

    Possibly a physical switch to turn off all transmissions as well (so it can be QUICKLY turned off).

    1. Re:Vastly increased battery life required by chrb · · Score: 3, Informative

      On the contrary, the technology that the ordinary troops use is dated, heavy and expensive. Everything is custom-built and procured by a single buyer in a pretty non-competitive tendering market. Example: handheld GPS receiver, $2000 per unit, low resolution grayscale LCD, heavy on batteries etc. If it was released on the consumer market nobody would buy it. The only advantage it might have is being rugged, but its MTBF is listed at 5000 hours which isn't that great, plus consumer units like the Garmin Vista series are quite rugged and waterproof and have many other advantages.

    2. Re:Vastly increased battery life required by mjwx · · Score: 5, Informative

      On the contrary, the technology that the ordinary troops use is dated, heavy and expensive.

      And meets the very specific requirements of the military.

      The army wont be taking this stuff around suburbia in big aircon'd SUV's. They'll be taking it to the worst places on earth, 45 C heat, minus 20 C cold, mud, torrential rain, sandstorms and that's on a good day. The equipment will need to survive being dropped, thrown, sat on, fell on and manhandled by an organisation who doesn't have the word subtlety in it's vocabulary.

      Above this, it needs to work, first time, every time after being dropped in the mud, blasted by sand, trod on and thrown. This is why a simple GPS unit weights 3 KG. Also it needs to be deadly accurate, the Garmin units just aren't that accurate, They rely on a lot of guesswork to plot your position and their sample rate is crap compared to a professional Trimble GPS unit. An expensive Magellan unit off the shelf costs $500 and has an inaccuracy of 3-5 metres, a Trimble GeoXH or GeoXT has an inaccuracy of 10-50 CM but they start at $3000 each (start at, they go past $7500). Trimble's are what we use for professional field work, where we need to record it down to the nearest metre or more.

      Consumer units are neither rugged enough, nor accurate enough for military, hell, most wont survive a day with a geologist, let alone a marine.

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  3. A mil spec N950 by Teun · · Score: 3, Interesting
    A final chance for the best phone ever, the mil spec N950ms.

    And I always thought MS stood for unreliable...

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    1. Re:A mil spec N950 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Definitely. Nokia definitely cares about construction and build quality. They subject their phones to rigorous abuse. There's a youtube video somewhere of their quality testing. squished on a press repeatedly, dropped repeatedly.

      I searched for the official Nokia Labs one from a year ago but couldn't find it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HicdXV_47V8

        Giz (sorry!) also has a story about it. http://gizmodo.com/5094602/a-look-at-the-nokia-damage-test-labs

      An n950 is already the pocket equivalent of a Panasonic ToughBook. They may not be running quadcores and have the most beautiful screens ( or whatever the spec nerd are going crazy for this week) but a Nokia is guaranteed to be built like a tank.

      Contrast that to a flimsy samsung/motorola android or an iphone that is absolutely destroyed when it gets dropped onto some rocks. It should be no question if you're looking only at durability in a mass produced consumer smartphone.

      None of that matters though. The decision on what the military uses will always be decided on what state the money will go to, or what lobby payed the most for someone's campaign. So, it will probably be something from AT&T. probably an iphone with a frickin' bumper.

  4. Re:Newfangled gadgets by hedwards · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not if they lock it to approved apps and court martial anybody that's caught sideloading. I'm guessing the bigger problem is going to be the apps that are approved themselves.

  5. None by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They can be tracked complete with GPS and can be used to record sensitive information.

    I have been reading Al Jazeera with the news of Libya last summer and cell phones were a problem. Basically loyalist spies would txt the GPS specs to Loyalists in Walid and Sirte, and whenever they went in the enemy was already there ambusing the rebels.

    Even not I wonder how easy it is to hack them. China has a keen interest and have the best hacking elite group in the world that have inflitrated Los Almos and even satelites.

    With Army equipment you know who made it and the ins and outs compared to a cell phone with knows what abilities it has obscured away.

  6. Android is out of the running, at least for now. by wkcole · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Due to a design flaw, the Android root CA trust database cannot be changed without reflashing the phone in currently available versions of Android. Given the way the military handles their PKI, this makes existing Android devices infeasible. Android 4 is supposed to address this.

  7. Re:Android is out of the running, at least for now by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There isn't a single phone on the market that runs "Android" - there are dozens of different models that each run some OS that is 99% android and 1% something else (if nothing else device drivers - the open source version of Android can't actually run on any production phone).

    Apple is a bit different since they sell a phone, and not an operating system.

    When the Army puts this out for bid it won't be to an OS vendor - it will be to a phone vendor (yes, I know Google owns Motorola). Whether or not Android 4 addresses this issue out of the box you can bet that vendors responding to the bid will factor in the need to address this feature if it is in the RFP.

    When the Military standardizes it won't be on iOS or Android - it will be on Vendor A model B. I suspect that even if they picked Apple they wouldn't be buying the consumer product per se.

  8. Can't wait to see how they screw this up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every single attempt the Army has made to give its soldiers the same capabilities as a 13 year-old girl with an iPhone in 2007 has produced hilarious results. There was Future Force Warrior, Future Soldier, a dozen versions of Land Warrior, which were rolled into half a dozen versions of Nett Warrior. Nett Warrior -- the most recent attempt to waste gobs of taxpayer money -- is notable for producing this marvel of design elegance.

    I give you, the Nett Warrior End User Device :

    Believe it or not, that's the smallest, lightest, and most elegant system the Army has come up with yet. It's the first device to break with their tradition of attaching as many awkwardly shaped objects as possible to the soldier's head.

    I can't wait to see how our brilliant and effective military contracting system interprets the smartphone.

  9. Touchscreen? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It might just be me, but a touchscreen-only phone seems like it might be less than ideal for a soldier. I would think that actual buttons would be a better idea for people who might be wearing various types of hand gear in varied conditions.

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  10. Army reality check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As a former soldier I can tell you this: there is no coherent strategy. This is almost certainly 80-90% fail.
    For non-deployed soldier, there is no need for a government issued smartphone because, just like everyone else, soldiers own personal smartphones already.
    Unless of course, the phone is used only for official business and the government doesn't trust your personally owned phone with it.

    While you're deployed it's different, mainly in that your own phone probably won't work, since there are no cell towers around and/or the towers are incompatible.
    So, for any of this to work at all, either the Army has make its signal units run their own movable cell basestations, or they need to buy phone service from the host country.

    Also, the phones will be so stuffed with Army bloatware and locked down with security and overbuilt big and heavy for ruggedness that they will be essentially useless.
    And then after purchasing them, the Army will try to keep using the same crap phones for a 5-10 year lifecycle while the rest of the phone world marches on with Moore's law.

    And since the purchasing contract system makes things really expensive they will probably try to save money by only buying enough for the high-ranking officers and NCOs, and for the elite units, but none for the normal soldiers. And on the off chance that your unit does get enough to go around, your commander will keep them locked in a container to prevent loss, damage and theft, because they're too expensive to risk actually using them.