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New Study Finds People Remember More Than They Think

An anonymous reader writes "A new study has shown that people subconsciously retain information about things they've seen even if they can't consciously remember. From the article: 'Luis Martinez of CSIC- Miguel Hernandez University in Spain and his team "read minds" with the Princess Card Trick, an act invented by magician Henry Hardin in 1905. Participants in the study mentally picked out a playing card from a group of six cards, which then disappeared. When a second group of cards appeared, the researchers had amazingly figured out which card a person had in mind and removed it. Very few people caught the trick: All of the cards in the second set were different, not just the card that people had chosen. This trick is well-known to confuse the masses, even via the Internet a magician's sleight of hand can make it seem as though he/she legitimately "read your mind" A few moments after viewing the two panels of cards, volunteers were asked which of two new cards was present in the first set of cards. None of the volunteers could actually recall which card was present. Despite claiming that they had no idea, when they were forced to choose, people got the right answer around 80 percent of the time. “People say they don’t know, but they do,” Martinez said. “The information is still there, and we can use it unconsciously if we are forced to.”'"

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  1. "Selective" Memory by Pastor+Jake · · Score: 5, Funny

    This doesn't surprise me at all. God chooses for us what we can and can't remember, and it is through His will that our memories come to us in the time we need them most. Yours in Christ, Jake

  2. My friends have selective memory by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

    They remember me when they need a ride to and from the airport, but they can't remember to pay me back the money they've borrowed.

    1. Re:My friends have selective memory by roman_mir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, now with this study, now you can be certain - these 'friends' are just assholes :)

      What you do is, next time they call you from the airport, tell them you are coming, but don't. When they call you later all worked up, say: oh, I forgot. Will be right there.

      Don't show up again.

      That solves both of your problems.

      The 'friend' and money problem and whatever else, I forgot.

    2. Re:My friends have selective memory by saleenS281 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think what you meant to say was that this solves all three problems. The friend, the money, and uh... uh... the EPA?

  3. Re:Pretty useless by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He did, He evolved some of us into computer makers, administrators, and software writers. the rest that didn't evolve we call users, sucks to be them.

  4. Re:Pretty useless by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's possible that you have much more stored in your brain than you realize. Could you imagine the chaos in your head if it were to provide you with all of your brain's knowledge and wisdom on-demand? The Hollywood version would be cool because you'd be like a genius, but the downfalls to that ability are described in the Star Trek: TNG episode Tin Man. That guy who was born "gifted" was miserable, barely functional, and unstable because his telepathic mind had a low signal-noise ratio.

    Take into account your dreams. How many of your dreams feature the most mundane, forgettable events you experienced that day? Do you believe that your psyche would delve into chaos if every little ass-wiping thoughout your life were constantly percolating to the surface of your conscious mind?

  5. Re:Pretty useless by chromas · · Score: 5, Funny

    It gets hashed and stored in a table. When there's a collision, a DejaVu exception is raised.

  6. Re:nanoseconds by jd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ok, found it. Neurons operate at 200 Hz, not 10. That gives a brain speed of 24 THz.

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  7. Radiolab - Falling by dbIII · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Radiolab show on "Falling" had a bit on this. The "time stands still" experience you get from near death experiences is because later you can consciously remember far more than normal.

  8. Re:should be by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    from the new-study-finds-already-known-stuff dept.

    I'm still trying to figure out how they do the trick.

    How do they pick the right card again?

    I wish they would do a study on what a vodka and grapefruit juice after a long day does to my cognitive abilities.

    Can someone please explain the trick to me? Is he picking the right card, or a card that looks like the right card? I mean, if you showed me six cards and I pick one and then you show me a different six cards, I'm going to remember what my card looked like, unless all twelve cards are very similar.

    Oh crap, now I'm going to have to either go read the article or just call it a day and go to sleep. The wife's already in bed reading and it's 28 degrees here in Chicago, and the bed and wife are more beckoning than the article. Add this to the list of things I will probably never know.

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  9. Re:Are they really remembering? by wvmarle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Repressed or hidden memories are a physical impossibility based on the understanding we presently have of memory.

    Yet many people tend to completely forget things, only to recall it later.

    Recent example, of one of the US president hopefuls: "the government departments that I want to close are a, b, and euhm..." and a while later he remembered it again.

    The memory was obviously still there, yet for a while couldn't be recovered. I have similar experiences myself, you surely have too. Like standing in front of an ATM and drawing a blank on your decade-old PIN code... try an hour later and it's back no problem. Why was that memory suddenly gone? How come later it's back again?

    This sounds to me like "hidden memories" that need some kind of trigger to recover. And as you rightfully remark, impossible based on our current understanding of the workings of the brain. It's so mighty complex, our understanding of how it works is probably just the very beginning.

  10. Re:should be by _0xd0ad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can someone please explain the trick to me? Is he picking the right card, or a card that looks like the right card? I mean, if you showed me six cards and I pick one and then you show me a different six cards, I'm going to remember what my card looked like, unless all twelve cards are very similar.

    The trick is that the magician, without ever knowing which card you picked, seems to have "magically" taken it out and replaced it with a different card. It relies on the fact that you won't remember the 5 cards you didn't pick, or else you'd notice that all of them were replaced.

    However, the point of this study was determining whether you unconsciously did remember which cards were in the first set, even though you could only consciously remember the one you had chosen.

  11. Spanish proverb by srussia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They remember me when they need a ride to and from the airport, but they can't remember to pay me back the money they've borrowed.

    "Ante el vicio de pedir, la virtud de no dar."

    My English try: "When asking becomes a vice, not giving becomes a virtue."

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