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Dual-Core Android PC Now Comes On a USB Stick

absolut.evil writes "FXI Technologies has taken a dual core smartphone-esque computer and put it into a little USB stick. Neat. This allows you to plug into anything with a screen, USB port, and input device and run your own instance of Android. It weighs 21 grams and contains 'a dual-core 1.2-GHz Samsung Exynos ARM CPU (same as in the Galaxy S II), 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, HDMI-out and a microSD card slot for memory.'"

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  1. !Now by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Consumer pricing has not yet been established, but product is expected to be available in volumes the second half of 2012.

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    1. Re:!Now by s0litaire · · Score: 2

      If it's over $25 then it's a no go...

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    2. Re:!Now by ksd1337 · · Score: 2

      Well, the specs are better than Raspberry Pi. It really depends on the target audience.

    3. Re:!Now by jduhls · · Score: 5, Informative
    4. Re:!Now by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd say even then its kinda pointless unless you are developing Android apps. I mean what is the point of firing up an entire computer only to run ANOTHER full computer in a USB form factor? talk about "Yo Dawg, i heard you like computing so I put a computer in your computer so you can compute while you compute"!

      I still think the better way to go is Expressgate/SplashTop. you have a single chip that plugs into a USB port on the motherboard and you have an instant dual boot that works at the BIOS level. no extra CPU, no extra RAM, just use what the machine has on it to run a fast stripped down web environment.

      The fact that they are running dual core and only say "it is expected to run under $200" makes me think this thing will be $199 PLUS the cost of whatever device you run it on. hell at that price you could just buy a real Android device!

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    5. Re:!Now by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Informative

      I mean what is the point of firing up an entire computer only to run ANOTHER full computer in a USB form factor?

      I'm beginning to understand why you seem to be trolling all the time. It might help if you slowed down a little and read TFA (yeah, I know...)

      Here, this might help:

      "When connected to an HDTV, it uses the HDMI port for video, the USB for power, and Bluetooth to connect to a keyboard, mouse, or tablet for controlling the operating system."

      Just slow down a little, understand what you're commenting on, and you'll come across as a much nicer person. I'm sure you're a good bloke at heart.

      Personally, I'm looking at these things and thinking Amarino. If MIT can get it's act together and make it possible to include Amarino events in App Inventor, toys like this could really fire up home robotics. Imagine being able to use the voice control and face recognition in Ice Cream Sandwich to control real interactions!

      These things are very cool, and they'll only get cheaper.

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    6. Re:!Now by Required+Snark · · Score: 2

      This device raises an interesting question: can the Raspberry Pi be used as an Android host? It seems inevitable that someone will try that out.

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    7. Re:!Now by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Informative

      Whoosh. You completely missed the point of my post.

      I think you're the one missing everybody else's point.

      Maybe it's different in the US, but virtually every HDTV sold over here already has at least one USB port. This thing would turn those TVs into a usable computer.

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  2. Angry Birds by ForestGrump · · Score: 3, Funny

    Good. Now I can play Angry Birds on my computer at work.

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    1. Re:Angry Birds by blair1q · · Score: 2

      If you can get the Chrome browser on your work computer, you can do that already.

    2. Re:Angry Birds by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 2

      What if your work standardizes on IE6?

      Then it is time to find a new job. :)

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    3. Re:Angry Birds by mollymoo · · Score: 2

      Do you think my work computer would be running IE6 and Firefox 3.5 if I could install my own software? Shit, I can't even fire up Task Manager to kill an errant app.

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  3. Developers by bjb_admin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can understand developers would like this, since the android emulator in the SDK is slower than molasses in (northern) December. I suppose ICS would not be an issue to get on this for the future.

    But $200 seems a little steep since a real tablet can be purchased for that price range (although with perhaps with less CPU/RAM). $50-$100 would probably be the sweet point.

    Actually this reminds me of something I thought of when Siri came out. How long is it going to take for someone to come out with a screenless / keypadless phone that is pure voice recognition (built into a headset like a BT headset??)? Same thing for GPS units (rather than being distracted by a map you just have to listen to the directions, much like having a person reading you directions "like in the old days"). That would extend battery life, reduce costs, although would also reduce it to the basic functionality (sorry no angry birds).

    1. Re:Developers by jeffmeden · · Score: 2

      I can understand developers would like this, since the android emulator in the SDK is slower than molasses in (northern) December.

      I suppose ICS would not be an issue to get on this for the future.

      But $200 seems a little steep since a real tablet can be purchased for that price range (although with perhaps with less CPU/RAM). $50-$100 would probably be the sweet point.

      It appears that this is not to be thought of as some sort of substitute phone (or other mobile device) but a way to take the effort into mobile development (Angry Birds, ultra low power graphics, etc.) and plaster it on a big screen. $200 might be a little steep for a set-side box (as we can see with the trouble Google TV and Apple TV have had) but if the price comes down or if there is a particularly killer app (portability is already a wow factor) then this might be a popular little gadget. I can picture a streamlined version (skip BT, right size the CPU/GPU) and you could have a highly portable media player that can be remotely controlled via a smartphone app. It would be nice to have a highly portable content streamer that was like a smartphone but wasnt actually a smartphone (having to stop your movie to take a call is a deal breaker.)

    2. Re:Developers by SkimTony · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure that would stop them. Can you imagine all the people on the train playing angry birds by voice command!?

      It's a good thing my headphones are sound isolating. I'd hate to have to listen to that.

    3. Re:Developers by martin-boundary · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can you imagine all the people on the train playing angry birds by voice command!?

      Large metropolis, 7:30 Monday morning, a train heading towards the CBD:

      Commuter1: "Caw"
      Commuter2: "Caw-caw"
      Commuter3: "Caw-caw, caw-caw"
      Commuter1: "Caw-ca-caw-caw"
      Commuter3: "Caw-caw-caw-caw"
      Commuter1: "Caw-caw, Damn, hey Commuter3, keep it down will you? I'm in the middle of a game!"
      Commuter3: "Shut up Commuter1, you stupid loser, Caw-caw-caw-caw-caw-caw....caw!"
      Commuter2: "Hey guys, stop arguing, it's interfering with my game"
      Commuter1: "Fuck you Commuter2, I just lost the high score, want me to come over there and help you? Caw-Caw! How d'you like them birds?"

      ???

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    4. Re:Developers by optimism · · Score: 2

      $200 seems a little steep since a real tablet can be purchased for that price range

      Similarly, $1/GB seems steep for a USB flash drive, since hard-drive space can be purchased for less than $0.05/GB.
      Size and convenience do, in fact, matter.
      However, it's a moot point since the gizmo in TFA is vaporware, unlikey to be produced in any mass-marketable quantity.

      How long is it going to take for someone to come out with a screenless / keypadless phone that is pure voice recognition (built into a headset like a BT headset??)? Same thing for GPS units (rather than being distracted by a map you just have to listen to the directions, much like having a person reading you directions "like in the old days"). That would extend battery life, reduce costs, although would also reduce it to the basic functionality (sorry no angry birds).

      I doubt you'll ever see this device.

      Voice recognition & response are horribly inefficient compared to visual input & output. We've had the ability to do it in consumer products for about 15 years, but it hasn't caught on for this very reason.

      Voice support is extremely helpful when your eyes are busy doing something more important. For most folks, that means driving.

      But for most purposes, a smartphone with tactile input and visual output (e.g. a touchscreen) is much more useful, so you carry it anyway. If you want to go voice-only to save battery life, you can just turn off the screen. So...why would you carry a smartphone with a display (for most usage) AND a voice-only device (for a subset of the stuff that the smartphone can already do).

      The only answer I can think of is: for ultra-minimal carrying. Same as carrying a tiny money-clip, instead of your larger wallet, when you go out on the town. But the economics still aren't there. This voice-only device would have to cost less than $50 (and work with the same account as your everyday smartphone) before it would make sense for many people.

  4. Re:Website /.ed by OakDragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perhaps they're using the device as the server?

  5. Re:donotwant by blair1q · · Score: 2

    Well, okay, but the non-luddites are going to be playing Angry Birds on every flat-panel TV in town without you.

  6. Why Android? by lucian1900 · · Score: 2

    This device could be much more useful if it shipped with a desktop linux distro, like Ubuntu or Fedora.

    1. Re:Why Android? by metalgamer84 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Though the current prototype runs Android 2.3, Borgar told us that the ARM-based hardware can run Ubuntu Linux currently and future versions should be able to run the ARM version of Windows 8.

      With Ubuntu installed, the Cotton Candy can even be turned into a mobile file or web server!

      RTFA next time.

    2. Re:Why Android? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 5, Funny

      Though the current prototype runs Android 2.3, Borgar told us that the ARM-based hardware can run Ubuntu Linux currently and future versions should be able to run the ARM version of Windows 8.

      With Ubuntu installed, the Cotton Candy can even be turned into a mobile file or web server!

      RTFA next time.

      RTFA? RTFA?!?!?!

      THIS - IS - SLASHDOT!

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  7. Re:America kicks your ass! by DanTheStone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're missing John Barrow (D), Karen Bass (D), John Conyers (D), Howard Berman (D), Ted Deutch (D), Ben Lujan (D), Adam Schiff (D), William Owens (D), Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D), and Melvin Watt (D). Surely if we're going to support the (R) candidates we should support the (D) candidates with the same beliefs.

  8. "Any" is not "Any" by markdavis · · Score: 3, Informative

    >"plug into anything with a screen, USB port, and input device and run your own instance of Android"

    *WRONG*

    The word "anything" could not be more WRONG. It specifically says in the article that you have to run "special software" that is MS-Windows or MacOS *only*. That is not "anything" with a screen. Exactly how would plugging that FXI "computer usb stick" into my Mandriva Linux desktop machine, Xoom Android tablet, my Fedora Linux laptop, or my RHEL server going to give the FXI access to my keyboard, mouse, network, and monitor without very specialized and deeply-rooted software to support it?

    Then, even if it is an MS-Windows or MacOS machine, that doesn't mean it will be able to or allowed to run such alien software.

    The article says it has WiFi, Bluetooth, and HDMI on the FXI, so it has a LOT of possibilities, is fascinating, and really cool. I don't know why the article and the summary have to step out of bounds with such sensationalist stuff like "anything with a monitor".

    1. Re:"Any" is not "Any" by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Informative

      The word "anything" could not be more WRONG. It specifically says in the article that you have to run "special software" that is MS-Windows or MacOS *only*. That is not "anything" with a screen. Exactly how would plugging that FXI "computer usb stick" into my Mandriva Linux desktop machine, Xoom Android tablet, my Fedora Linux laptop, or my RHEL server going to give the FXI access to my keyboard, mouse, network, and monitor without very specialized and deeply-rooted software to support it?

      The special software in question is only used when you want to run this (and see the output) on top of an already running OS, in a window. It's basically like VNC or RDP. However, they also support standalone operation - from TFA:

      "When connected to an HDTV, it uses the HDMI port for video, the USB for power, and Bluetooth to connect to a keyboard, mouse, or tablet for controlling the operating system. "

      Which basically means that you need to also have an HDMI cable handy.

  9. Re:donotwant by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    But how else do you patent "remote control of a computer" and sue everyone out of business if not by first introducing your own product which you can claim is being harmed by those conniving thieves out there.

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  10. Re:America kicks your ass! by poetmatt · · Score: 2

    absolutely. This is a bipartisan rape of people's rights, it's not specific to republican or democrat. It should also be noted that Tea party and libertarians were in full support of SOPA via various political figures too.

  11. 21 grams by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

    or about the mass of a human soul.

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  12. Scandinavians again. by unity100 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Again scandinavians with an innovation. after first osmosis power plant, wood chip power plant, and many more. not to mention software (linux).

    behold how social democracy (Called socialism in u.s.), govt. funded education, social security etc leaves a nation behind in development and innovation.

    ............ not. that is despite compared to u.s. and the resources, riches and population it has, scandinavia is not even comparable. in total they dont even amount to good 10 mil+ population. resources - almost none. colonies and satellite nations - none. nothing. nada.

  13. Re:donotwant by causality · · Score: 2

    What's to not understand? They don't want to be compatible because then they have no leverage over the tech. On the other hand they can, as in this case, patent the tech and lock you in.

    I'm not the one who questioned it. Pretending that I am is another fail.

    My point in the initial response to you was that you either failed to comprehend or chose to trivialize the question the other poster was asking. Both are useless.

    Anyway, as that other poster implies, not using a proprietary technology and being more compatible may increase the usefulness of the device. That, in turn, might be another way to increase sales. I suppose he was wondering what reason they have to believe that proprietary lock-in is more profitable than this.

    Isn't that more useful than restating the obvious by saying "it's not one of their goals"? Clearly it is not, or else they would act accordingly. The constructive thing to do then is to move past the obvious that we can all observe and look into why it is that way and whether it could be done differently and how viable that would be.

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  14. Re:HDMI, how quaint! by Miamicanes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because you'd have to transform the display into a MPEG-2 data stream with maximum bitrate of 19.2mbit/sec, then modulate it onto an 8-VSB carrier (to work in the US) and COFDM (to work in most other places). It's nontrivial. 8-VSB, in particular, is a bitch to do. The wireless video modulator ALONE would have added a MINIMUM of $50 to the manufacturing cost, and THAT'S if they dusted off the Zenith chipset DirecTV was planning to use before the MAFIAA killed their plans for using 8VSB for whole-house HD video distribution over existing 75-ohm cable to keep the development costs down to a minimum.

    Furthermore, 19.2mbit/sec MPEG-2 would utterly suck for high-contrast "computer-type" applications where you're displaying things like windows and rendered text at high resolution and framerates. If you buffered it to take advantage of predictive frames to increase the effective bandwidth, you'd end up with annoying lag. If you tried to do the whole thing with I-frames, your text would be a fuzzy macroblock-ridden mess.

  15. nope by Chirs · · Score: 2

    It looks like it's got a male usb connector on one end and a male hdmi connector on the other. Just stick it into the hdmi port on the TV/monitor.

    1. Re:nope by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      My understanding is that you still need to plug the USB end somewhere to power it. So you need either a USB extension cable, or an HDMI extension cable.

  16. Expensive, unnecessarily overpowered by pond0123 · · Score: 2

    This isn't a new idea, it's a "me too". What, suddenly nobody on /. has heard of Raspberry Pi?

    http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=raspberry+pi
    http://www.raspberrypi.org/

    A 1.2GHz dual core CPU is all very nice, but you can run full-on Desktop Linux with considerably more frugal resources and produce a device that's considerably cheaper as a result. It seems bizarre to have over-specified the hardware and under-specified the software stack.

  17. my money, you can has it by K_Bomb · · Score: 2

    OMG OMG OMG.... daddy wants!

  18. Dear FXI, WTF? by sgt+scrub · · Score: 2

    Use info from Cherry Pi for hardware, snag an OS from the open source world, then attach a bullshit proprietary interface "FXI’s patent protected Any Screen Virtualization Protocol"? Interesting.

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  19. I think this would be classified by Stan92057 · · Score: 2

    I think this would be classified "For the Geek who has everything category" lol

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  20. Smartphone Revolution by sonicmerlin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder... does anyone else realize this could be used to create upgradeable smartphones? You would have a phone with touchscreen and battery, with a recessed USB port. Then just slide this device in, and in a couple years when you want to upgrade buy a new usb stick PC. If they could fit the baseband radio in this device that would be truly revolutionary.