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Whither the Portable Optical Drive?
"The MacBook Air and the Ultrabook come without a piece of hardware that's been a mainstay in laptops for a long time — the optical drive," says a piece at CNET. "Maybe because they really aren't that necessary anymore." I would have thought otherwise a few years ago, but traveling in the meantime with a small netbook was certainly handy. Since that machine died, I think I've used the optical drive in its low-end laptop successor a grand total of once, which was to test its wireless compatibility with a Live CD Linux distro.
There are a lot of situations in which people need to use optical drives on laptops. The uses range from gaming to application installs, to backup.
Only having to use your portable with alive cd to 'test wireless compatibility' tells me that you are a sysadmin, or another i.t. professional. chances are high that you rarely do what normal people do with that portable but work. let me break the news about common people to you - people still move data on cds.
Read radical news here
and that's about it
How do you get software on a laptop without an optical drive?
Most of that stuff is still sold on cd/dvd...
You filthy pirates are downloading it right... We need more laws!
I have a DVD writer for my laptop, but my laptop as a whole benefits a lot more from the extra battery.
I do keep the writer, and a couple of blank dvds and cds with my in my bag though, along with
* an external hard drive
* empower + ac adapter, with anything-to-anything plug adapter
* 5 port netgear switch
* a few cables
* gaffer tape
* leatherman
* cable ties
And after a particularly problematic experience in Gaza, I've added a tiny USB keyboard to the list. Trouble is, the bags getting a little heavy, and the CD drive is the only thing I don't use on a regular basis.
from the hard drive, or a USB stick... duh!
Gaming in markets with broadband? Steam. Application installs in markets with broadband? Mac App Store, Ubuntu Software Center (which has paid repos now) or whatever Windows has. Moving data from one PC to another? USB flash drives. On-site backup? External hard drives, especially if your data is over the 4.something GB limit for DVD-R or DVD+R media.
But this still leaves several uses for optical discs: 1. operating system installations, 2. application installations in places that can't get DSL, FTTH, or cable Internet, 3. burning music CDs for people who don't already own and use a suitable PMP, or 4. burning DVDs for the large number of people who own a DVD player that happens not to have a USB input and don't already have a home theater PC. I admit most of these can be done on a USB burner kept at home, and that's what I use with my 10" Dell.
Optical drives should be external. They cost $30.
For that price, you could throw one in your laptop bag, and plug it in when you need it.
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=420&name=External-CD-DVD-Blu-Ray-Drives
I don't believe in built-in optical drives; I use them rarely. They're useless dead weight. Much prefer that the space they took, be replaced by more battery... which is always useful. Or leave both off and make the laptop lighter and slimmer.
I use the portable optical drive for:
1) Reading documentation manuals that come with hardware (like printers) on CD format
2) Listening to CD's
3) Watching some DVD's
4) Occasionally rescue CD's come in handy when a root password is forgotten.
No I don't think they are going away. My guess is that Apple doesn't think their users care about #1, and they don't like the fact that #2 competes with iTunes.....
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Handbrake it to MP4 before I leave. And more likely than not, copy it over to a tablet that's easier to hold and watch in cattle class than breaking out a full blown laptop.
Why would I want to waste battery spinning a DVD around?
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Games these days are being purchased more and more on Steam, Origin, and the likes.
Unless you live somewhere where typical home broadband plans cap your monthly download in the single digit GB range.
How do you get software on a laptop without an optical drive?
By going home, pulling out your external USB burner, plugging it into the side of your laptop, installing the software, and unplugging the burner.
Yeah, optical drive is useless for me. I hardly ever use the optical drive on my desktop, let alone on my laptop. Optical drives are useless for professionals who know what they are doing, but for computer novices optical drives are still a necessity. If you ever buy a game or an application it comes on an optical media. You even need to have it in the drive to use the software.
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For now, it is cheaper to ship software on optical media instead of some kind of read-only usb drive. There are huge benefits to that though, first of all, a microsd card takes up much less space and weighs a lot less than a dvd. So, maybe one day we will see software that comes on usb drives instead of dvd. That day will mark the death of the optical media, except perhaps for long term archival, stuff i never want to see again but can't get myself to delete i burn on a dvd and throw the dvd into the basement.
Netbooks and ultraportables don't have optical drives? What's next, cellphones without mechanical number pads? How do people come up with this stuff?
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Reading documentation manuals that come with hardware (like printers) on CD format
I'm assuming you don't carry a printer around with you (unless it's one of those new Polaroid products or something). Leave a USB disc drive where you leave your printer. Before iTunes Store, iTunes software was specifically for doing exactly this.
Listening to CD's
If you can stop by home, you can copy the CD to your computer with an external drive and music library software that has come with just about every home computer since 2002.
Watching some DVD's
If you can stop by home, you can copy the DVD to an MPEG-2 file on your computer with an external drive and VLC media player.
Occasionally rescue CD's come in handy when a root password is forgotten.
Which are ideal for USB flash drive. Any machine from the past decade that's new enough not to have a floppy drive is probably new enough to boot from USB mass storage as easily as it boots from a hard drive.
Step 2 needs a dvd drive
Which need not be inside a laptop's case. It can be on a desktop PC or on a USB port.
You have a DVD drive on your home PC of course. The discussion is about whether they're needed in laptops. And if you only own a laptop, I'm sure you could get some USB DVD drive to use at home.
And FYI, DVDFab can remove the crap, shrink the file size, and output in different formats. There's no real need for steps 3 & 4.
My first "netbook" without an optical drive was a Sony Vaio Picturebook - like this one: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press_Archive/199809/98-085/index.html. I used it happily on the road until about 2003, when I upgraded to a Victor Interlink - like this one: http://www.kemplar.com/jvc_741.php.
Both still work, and the Victor with Linux still puts most netbooks to shame.
Take a Linux CD ISO and extract it to a FAT32 USB drive (7-zip can do that). Delete isolinux.bin and rename isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg. Then grab syslinux.exe and run "syslinux.exe -mifa [drive]:"
You can still use the drive for storage.
There are also many tutorials out there for installing Windows 7 from a thumbdrive.
Uses for Optical Drives:
1. Ripping CDs to Itunes, whatever you use (Rhythmbox, Amarok) to manage your MP3s. A lot of people still buy CDs, or have some to rip.
2. Recording LPs to HD, burning CDs to play in stereos, etc. A lot of folks still have stereos they'd like to use.
3. Watching Netflix / Redbox DVDs, not everyone wants to watch em on a big screen. Or rip the DVD (takes a long time). Sometimes you just want to watch it and be done.
4. Guaranteed boot unlike sometimes iffy USB Flash drives.
5. Archival backup, cheap and easy. Great for weblogs, code base, important docs etc.
6. Commercial software, upgrades, etc. This is particularly true for naive users who tend to delete stuff they should not (like their download, say). Non technical users know to save the install CD/package, they'll often delete the download.
7. Burning Library Audiobooks to CDs, and then ripping them via Itunes, RubyRipper, Soundjuicer whatever. This is good for a number of reasons -- a lot of non-technical folks have CD players they like to use to listen to audio books and don't have or want to use MP3 players, burning the CDs also allows you to rip them to MP3s without time-limits etc. You can do this with both the Overdrive Media downloads, and the regular CD audio books (just copy the CDs).
I love having an optical drive, I consider it mandatory for any serious computer not optimized for light-weight. Netbooks have their place, but for anything serious and regular use I want that optical drive. I use it all the time.
Please let me know how you are going to play back movies etc while in an airplane at 30,000 feet.
I suppose if you want to watch in a manner which drains your battery dead the fastest, you could go that way. Personally, I prefer carrying and watching my movies in a more portable form, such as data files stored on a HDD, my iPad, or flash media.
Yaz
Some laptops such as Sony Vaio PCG_GRT don't have floppy disk drives, nor do they have USB boot capability. The only way of OS update is via DVD or CD.
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If you install grub onto your USB stick, then you can have a whole collection of live CDs, which can be accomplished by copying the iso to the USB stick and adjusting the grub configuration file. See for example http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB
If you travel with a high resolution camera you are going to want an optical drive to back up you photos.
Years ago, back in 2001, I had a nice Dell laptop with a modular DVDRW drive. However, you could hot swap out the optical drive for a second battery pack. I pretty much ran with this second battery pack in all the time, and it was awesome. It added an extra 60% or so of extra battery time to the laptop and I could go a real-world six to eight hours of use before the power ran out.
My new MacBook pro has a DVDRW drive in it and it's just complete wasted space. The battery life for this MacBook Pro is already pretty good, but it would be very awesome if I could put a modular battery in there. FYI, I have one of the first generation of unibody MacBook Pros, so I can very easily get to the battery and hard drive. I loath the fact that they un-did this feature of the MBP in later models. Jerks!
so where does the source come from ? Unless you download it from bit torrent
Newsgroups. Oh wait we're not supposed to talk about those. ;)
I really think that Android needs to support external DVD drives and watching DVD movies. Yes I know downloaded videos are the future, but during this transition time when lots of people have both physical DVDs and downloaded videos, it would definitely help ease the transition.
Then all you need to do is burn a bootloader like PLoP to a CD and use it to boot the USB drive.
Magic! Or butterflies! Take your pick. :-)
Ripping an entire season of some show is not that much of a burden. Although admittedly there aren't really any good "shiny happy" GUI tools for this. It's something that's easily automated once you get past the "metadata" hurde.
Of course this requires having a little Script Fu.
Admittedly, your average Windows or Mac user isn't.
So yeah, the mundane case here will be a bunch of spinny disks and some device capable of dealing with them. All of us geeking out about our highly geeky solutions (even Handbrake qualifies here) isn't terribly relevant to the market at large.
Plus spinny disk media takes up a lot of space. Even compressed, it's perhaps not something you want crufting up your tiny SSD on a MBA with.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Chicken, meet egg.
Yes but TFA is specifically talking about new machines like netbooks. i have to say that I too thought I would need one when i switched to a netbook, even bought an external USB case for the DVD burner that was in my old laptop....and I've never plugged it in past testing that it worked.
Once I picked up a 16Gb flash drive I've found I don't hardly need DVDs anymore. for my older games there are disc images and Alcohol 52% and for newer there is Steam. Frankly the ONLY ones who haven't joined the new way of doing things is the damned MPAA who won't simply sell you an AVI file, nope you got to have a DVD burner to rip it and transcode it. Is it any wonder TPB is so popular?
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Just get a USB optical drive. They use two USB ports to legitimately get enough power, although you can usually just use one plug. They're basically just a laptop optical drive in a box and work just fine for almost everything, even installing an OS from scratch usually works. And you don't need to have it inside the computer for the 99% of the time you don't need it.
Whither the Portable Optical Drive? FTFY.
Hither came the Portable Optical Drive, black cased, laser eyed, CD loaded, a ripper, a reader, with gigantic data capacity and gigantic IO, to store the information of the Earth on its removable media.
Hoist Number One and Number Six.
I'm sorry but that's just plain wrong. If you're travelling with a high resolution camera the LAST thing you want is to backup to optical drive. You're typical CF card is 16 or 32 GB, many people travel with multiple cards.
So am I going to go home at the end of each day of my holiday and sit down for an hour or two and burn 8 or 16 DVDs? Hell no. Not when I can just plug in my usb HDD to the laptop click copy and then disappear downstairs for a meal instead.
My last holiday generated 400MB of images. My USB harddisk is thinner than 5 DVDs, It's lighter than 15 DVDs, There's no way I'm going to be dragging 100 of the things on my holiday. Not to mention that it is far less likely to cause problems by some customs agent wondering what I'm doing returning from Thailand with what looks like 100 bootlegged movies.
Build a standalone DVD drive with a USB/Memorycard slot.
When the user pops in a DVD-ROM, the drive copies an image of the disk onto the memory card. When the memory card is popped into a computer, an exact copy of the disk shows up!
Of course this would have problems with copy protected media but for software installs it could be useful. Most importantly it is simple enough that your grandmother could use it.
backing up data you own is in the law in the US
see 'are emulators legal' on gamefaqs.comhttp://www.gamefaqs.com/features/help/entry.html?cat=24
that pertains to software and movies are software(yes they are they can't be played back without decryption which is done in hardware or software thus requiring code to run)
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Sorry. Your "external USB burner" is still an optical drive.
I am aware of that. Though one still needs to use an optical drive with a laptop, one rarely needs to carry an optical drive with a laptop.
The computer maker will put it there for us. Dell and HP know what is best! They will choose the holy OS for us all!
Nerds will use a paperclip in a usb port to enter it in a serial binary format.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Wow, if you can't figure that out, this may not be the site for you. Maybe your lost your way from knitting patterns for men?
I try not to buy things that don't come on disk. Old habits die hard, but I can't keep myself from thinking about wanting to play some game 10 or 20 years from now, and wishing the company that made it hadn't gone under for whatever reason.
I still play Diablo, Diablo II, StarCraft (and the Broodwars expansion), Quake2, Quake3Arena, and many other "old" games... and I have multiple disks of a couple of them, for retro-gaming LAN parties. I won't buy StarCraft II because I can't be sure it will work next week, next year, or a decade from now - who's to say Blizzard will still be around (and won't have deactivated the activation server)?
Installation from physical media, without a requirement for an internet connection at any step of the process... it makes me happy to know that I can play these 10 and 15 year old games without worrying about whether the companies that produced them will go under.
As another example, how will we (legally) install Windows, when Microsoft shuts down the activation server for the unsupported version?
There's still nothing "wrong" with XP, despite the Vista/Win7/Win8 hype.
I have a huge collection of DVD/VHS movies, despite having digital versions of almost all of them (I'm still in the process of format-shifting them). Physical media says I never have to contact an "activation server" to "acquire and authenticate" media that I already paid for, even if my home file server dies in a fire, flood, or other major disaster (yes, many of my physical copies of my movies are stored offsite).
Another (possibly irrelevant) example: I have iso images of Linux operating systems dating all the way back to 1996, "just in case". I also have images of my Windows install media through the years. Yeah, I collect some weird data. I've just gotten into the habit, over the years, of making backups of everything.
My point is that physical media, unencumbered by DRM, means that the content of that media is accessible in most cases, years or even decades later.
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