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US Government Probes Huawei and ZTE
judgecorp writes "Two leading Chinese telecoms companies, Huawei and ZTE, are under investigation for possible spying in the U.S. A government committee says the companies may be stealing U.S. economic secrets, and use of their equipment might open U.S. infrastructure to espionage."
The Chinese government is not in charge of Gundam!
I would have used a spying int, but that's just me.
Huawei is a Chinese government funded company. I'm sure the funding isn't charity.
I would've thought after Huawei was caught stealing cisco tech (http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/Cisco_Mot_for_PI.pdf), that they'd be blackballed for any government network deployments.
The best way to compete with China is probably to give them all the secrets to our current economy and hope they use them.
US Government Probes Huawei and ZTE On Spying Char
IS that a new brand of Chinese tea "spi ying char"
The US might be doing this for honest reasons but then again they might be doing this because US based communications manufacturers are unhappy with companies like ZTE undercutting them using the free and Open Source Android OS.
I bet US based companies can find tons of patents that Chinese companies are infringing. But then again many of these patents are overly broad and are largely being used in an anti-competitive way.
Plus the whole accusation of spying, unless shown to be true, I read as akin to "buying from China isn't patriotic." If the US had evidence of ZTE spying on them you sure as hell would be reading about it right now.
It was free with our ISP, so don't judge me. (We're with TalkTalk in the UK ... ok, do judge me.)
It used client-side validation only to determine whether or not I was entering a valid port to forward to. By copying the admin page to my local machine and updating the target, I was able to remove the validation and set up my port forward to .255 ... I managed to resist the urge of setting up a forward to something actually invalid, in case the router completely died on me.
If the guys that made my router are spies ... they're not very good.
The People's Republic of China is a totalitarian state and most of its "private industry" is a facade for their civilian government or military. They routinely get caught with massive espionage operations in other countries. Whatever good that can from theoretically lower prices are negated by everything else that'll come with their increased role.
Even if the federal government so thoroughly separated itself from the telecommunication system that the NSA spy scandal was not even remotely possible, letting China get its tentacles deeper into our country's workings is asking for a lot of trouble. If in time they establish a backbone connection to Asia, you can bet your ass their spy agencies will be tapping it harder than a keg of top grade beer at a college party.
Huawei and ZTE have not done any industrial espionage that we know of (or espionage of any kind, for that matter). Nor is the investigation by the House of Representatives’ intelligence committee, in fact, concerned with any espionage done by either Huawei or ZTE. Also, it should be noted that Huawei have opened their hardware to inspection by the British government. Inaccurate post titles like these come at the expense of discussion, since less and less people are actually reading the stories posted here. As was previously posted, the concern here is what malevolent capabilities a Huawei network would give groups like the People's Liberation Army with whom they have alleged ties to.
Everyone acts like China invented industrial espionage. Well, they didn't... they're just really bad at it, which is why everyone is noticing them. First rule of effective espionage: Don't suck.
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This sounds like a preface from APPLE'S playbook.
FTFY.
Everytime I hear a story about the Chinese spying I want to smack the shit out of someone. The U.S. has caused itself so much harm in the outsourcing of every fing thing ever manufactured. The outsourcing of Electronics manufacturing is by far the most damaging thing the U.S. and companies who have looked for cheaper and lax regulatory laws on everything from pay scale to EPA violations.
I won't even get into the discussion of Labor Unions.
I don't want to hear anymore stories about Chinese spying. They have infiltrated just about everything in the U.S.
Where is most of this high tech computer security gear manufactured? Cisco gear is all made in China and don't think they don't have spies working in those other factories that are strewn all over Asia.
The U.S. ships all our used comuter gear all the way to China and then they have people removing the chips and sorting them and then reselling them to other companies namely U.S. contractors who are cheating the system and selling off the shelf chips as hardened components to be used on military systems.
China has taken a 20 to 30 year jump in just military technology alone. They have done this in less than 15 years. Thier submarines, thier Aircraft and now thier Satellitle technology is on par if not better than U.S. systems.
No More Spying Stories!
I used to work for Ericsson in Sweden, and it was a well know fact that Huawei stole a lot of research material from the company. There was a case were a Chinese employee was caught hard copying (-as in Xerox) several research papers (I don't remember all of it, but I think even the Chinese embassy was involved).
One of the few things Ericsson has going for them is their research (since their services division is a joke and doesn't bring any substantial revenue for the company), but if this continues they will be dead on the water in 10 years time.
Funny thing about all of this is that Ericsson has a research center in China, from where they bring those 'employees' who end up getting the info for Huawei.
To even compare the US with China on these grounds does nothing but make them look less evil by comparison. It's like telling someone who spanks their children a little too much to "clean up their own house before passing judgment" on someone who beats the ever loving shit out of their kid on a weekly basis.
The Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) put out a notice in 2010 claiming that Huawei is involved in spying for the Chinese government.
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2010-05-07/news/27580384_1_chinese-telecom-huawei-technologies-ren-zhengfei
Huawei has been asking for some time for a public inquiry about these alledged ties with the red army, istead of being stonewalled in their initiatives with what they call excuses.
Having said that, be carefull what you wish for, now they have the govt probe they requested, if the allegations are found to be true, all hell will break lose.
The probe is not only to see if chinese makers are spying, but also to see if the relevant intel agencies in the us are capable of detecting the spionage, as well as countering it.
Full idsclosure: I worked in Huawei for a year.
Clarification: Not many people know, Huawei does not trade in any stock exchange (so, less scrutiny and compliance burden, they have IIRC KPMG auditing their stuff, but the stuff is never published), but, allegedly, there is no govt participation in it. On the other hand, ZTE trades in some exchanges (mainly shangai), so there is more transarency, but the chinese govt. owns something along the lines of 20~30% of the shares.
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I have it on good authority the chinese shall soon be seeking to propogate an order 66 TLV throughout BGP after which control of the minds of the entire worlds population are instantly placed under direct control of the chinese empire.
TSMC has been secretly injecting mind control antennas in a secret metal layer of every chip they've stamped over the last decade just waiting for the command... Huawei, ZTE and Lenovo are just the tip of the iceburg. We are already doomed..their antennas are in every recent device with a processor on the planet. All of the tools that can be used to detect them were the first to have been compromised.