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Fighting Mosquitoes With GM Mosquitoes

doug141 writes "Scientists are releasing genetically modified male mosquitoes that produce flightless female offspring. The male offspring go on to wipe out another generation of females. This is similar to the way screwworms were eradicated in the U.S., except with nature itself making more of the modified males. Field trials are already underway."

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  1. Do I get to say... by migla · · Score: 5, Funny

    What could possibly go wrong?

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    1. Re:Do I get to say... by DRJlaw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The issue for me is that these scientists are, making decisions that should be evaluated well before they act, and not just by them, but by a larger audience.

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  2. Obligatory turd in punchbowl by stevegee58 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry to break up this anti-mosquito party, but don't mosquitos serve a useful purpose in nature?
    Is it OK for us to blindly eradicate them just because they cause disease in humans? It's not like mosquitos are going to kill us off or anything.

    1. Re:Obligatory turd in punchbowl by LoudNoiseElitist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Although I don't immediately know the specifics for mosquitos, not everything in nature serves a useful purpose.

    2. Re:Obligatory turd in punchbowl by LostOne · · Score: 5, Funny

      Although I don't immediately know the specifics for mosquitos, not everything in nature serves a useful purpose.

      Like, for instance, humans. Nature would get along much better without us, probably.

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    3. Re:Obligatory turd in punchbowl by dvice_null · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Like, for instance, humans. Nature would get along much better without us, probably.

      Not quite, there are mosquitoes that need humans as a food source.

    4. Re:Obligatory turd in punchbowl by Taibhsear · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since clearly a lot of people didn't read the article or the link in the article that directly addresses this...

    5. Re:Obligatory turd in punchbowl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I found this on the Internet.

      http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100721/full/466432a.html

      [[Ecology: A world without mosquitoes

      Eradicating any organism would have serious consequences for ecosystems — wouldn't it? Not when it comes to mosquitoes, finds Janet Fang.]]

    6. Re:Obligatory turd in punchbowl by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 5, Funny

      Like, for instance, humans. Nature would get along much better without us, probably.

      My theory is that nature wanted plastics, and since there was no natural way to produce plastics nature created humans to make plastics. Unfortunately for nature this plan has gone slightly had some unforeseen side effects.

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    7. Re:Obligatory turd in punchbowl by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nature wants to survive

      As far as I know, nature doesn't and can't want anything.

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    8. Re:Obligatory turd in punchbowl by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't anthropomorphize nature. It really hates that.

  3. Nature... will find a way! by arcite · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or maybe not. Actually I would be more in favor of releasing wave after wave of bats. Fruit bats preferably, they're cute!

    1. Re:Nature... will find a way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While fruit bats certainly are cute, I don't think they'll be very effective at eating mosquitoes. ;)

    2. Re:Nature... will find a way! by ascrewloose · · Score: 4, Informative

      At least the fruit bats won't starve if we kill all the mosquitoes.

    3. Re:Nature... will find a way! by msauve · · Score: 5, Funny

      "fruit bats certainly are cute, I don't think they'll be very effective at eating mosquitoes. "

      We just need mosquitoes which genetically altered to taste like mangos.

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    4. Re:Nature... will find a way! by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ignorance and superstition. Bats eat insects -- LOTS of insects. They do no harm to society, other animals, or anything else. Little brown bats are insectivores, eating moths, wasps, beetles, gnats,
      mosquitoes, midges and mayflies, among others. You like mosquitos, cockroaches, flies, and moths?

      You wouldn't like your neighborhood without bats.

    5. Re:Nature... will find a way! by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can't stay there. It's a bat country.

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    6. Re:Nature... will find a way! by evil_aaronm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Be careful what you wish for. There was an article - google it - regarding the number of bats killed by wind turbines and the direct cost increase to farmers who had to increase their pesticide usage in response. Food prices, of course, also go up. Just as killing mosquitoes wholesale would be "bad" for the "cycle of life," killing off bats would be about as bad, I'd guess.

      Personal anecdote: one night earlier this summer, my grand-daughter and I watched a flock of bats at dusk and, though they swooped and came close a few times - we were standing near the pool where the bats would dive bomb to get a drink - they never once threatened us. In addition to being a fascinating show, it was a good lesson for her: bats may -look- scary, but are usually harmless; no need to panic. I'm trying to get her - and her grandmother, and her mother - not to be so frightened by spiders, too, though less successfully.

    7. Re:Nature... will find a way! by Anthony+Mouse · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just as killing mosquitoes wholesale would be "bad" for the "cycle of life,"

      I'm not at all convinced that mosquitoes aren't an exception. Most of their "positive utility" is in serving as food for critters higher on the food chain, but in that respect they're pretty fungible with most other insects. If we killed all the mosquitoes, it wouldn't kill all the bats -- they would just eat other insects.

      The primary other thing they do is draw blood from various animals (which has a negligible effect on anything) and spread disease (which is pretty firmly in the net negative category).

    8. Re:Nature... will find a way! by Surt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Umm ... your parent poster complained about bat guano. Which of ignorance or superstition was it to claim that a large number of bats were responsible for his unwanted surplus of bat guano?

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    9. Re:Nature... will find a way! by RulerOf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which of ignorance or superstition was it to claim that a large number of bats were responsible for his unwanted surplus of bat guano?

      We may never know---I suspect he has gone batshit crazy.

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    10. Re:Nature... will find a way! by icebike · · Score: 4, Informative

      Be careful what you wish for. There was an article - google it - regarding the number of bats killed by wind turbines and the direct cost increase to farmers who had to increase their pesticide usage in response.

      Sorry, but that is totally false myth perpetrated by anti-wind power crowd. Modern wind turbines do not kill birds or bats in any great numbers. Ask any farmer who walks around under the turbines on his land. Ask Google.

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    11. Re:Nature... will find a way! by rogueippacket · · Score: 5, Funny

      The bats would be optional then - I'd eat the mosquitoes if they were mango flavored!

    12. Re:Nature... will find a way! by bryan1945 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then you release owls to eat the bats. If the owls get out of control, we'll need to GM a fox into a flying fox to eat the owls. Then GM a flying mountain lion to take care of the flying foxes. Not sure if you can GM a flying bear, though.

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  4. Genocide by wisnoskij · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You would think that some organization like the UN would step in and tell the US that genocide of an entire species is not a good thing.

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    1. Re:Genocide by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It saves human lives. fsck the mosquitoes. Did you complain when they eradicated small pox?

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    2. Re:Genocide by geekoid · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a new disease, so I expect you haven't heard of it: Malaria.

      malaria accounts for 2% of deaths worldwide. most of which are children.

      and secondly:RTFuckingA. the discuss that specific topic.

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  5. Re:Wait a second... by TheCRAIGGERS · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As far as I know, there aren't too many actual horror stories about GM animals messing up ecosystems.

    However, there are hundreds of years worth of horror stories from introducing some species of animal or plant to help control another bothersome species. Plus many accidental, but no less problematic, introductions.

    I'm not saying that GM as a species control is safe, but I am saying we've tried it that your way and it doesn't work well.

  6. That's nuts.... by RobinEggs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Much as humans hate them, mosquitoes constitute a potent food source to smaller vertebrates. Mammals represent massive concentrations of energy, and blood is a high energy substrate. Mosquitoes are a huge power source of fish, bats, etc. when they're caught still full of blood, and they're easy to catch.

    I read in the one of the article links that the ecological impact isn't expected to be a serious problem, but I find that difficult to accept. And there are certainly detractors to that theory in the scientific community.

    Is eradicating malaria, West Nile, etc. really worth the risks? They may be highly threatening to humans, but ultimately we still have to live here after the mosquitoes are gone...

    1. Re:That's nuts.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "The humble mosquito, and the deadly diseases it carries, is estimated to have been responsible for as many as 46 billion deaths over the history of our species. That staggering number is even more frightening in context - it means that mosquitoes are alleged to have killed more than half the humans that ever lived."

      Besides eliminating one species of Mosquito isn't going to affect the others that live in the same places. (like eliminating Chihuahuas won't affect other dogs species much)

  7. Re:How about driving their evolution instead? by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, for instance, we could create a way to selectively wipe out just the one species of mosquitoes that carry these diseases, while leaving other closely related species unharmed. Perhaps we could make it so that their females can't feed or flee from predators.

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  8. Re:Mosquitoes will go the way of the dinosaur! by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Folks, the mosquito could get extinct in a few years. Scary indeed."

    Well, A mosquito species could be come extinct. According to TFA, Aedes aegypti to be exact. This particular mosquito can carry several major human pathogens including dengue hemorrhagic fever, yellow fever, and chickungunya, which are all viral diseases. Ae. aegypti originated in Africa but is now found throughout tropical and subtropical regions including the USA, where it used to be in only Florida and the southeast but has since spread north to New York and Illinois. Especially alarming is the fact that there have been outbreaks of dengue recently (in 2010 at least) in Florida.

    Eradication of Ae. aegypti might not necessarily be that big of a deal environmentally. While mosquitoes are an important part of the diet of many predators, there are over 40 genera comprising thousands of species of mosquitoes. Any reasonably sized chunk of land probably has more than one species of mosquito, for example here in Wisconsin we have not less than 58 species. Even tiny Rhode Island is home to at least 46 mosquito species!

  9. Re:Mosquitoes will go the way of the dinosaur! by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Any reasonably sized chunk of land probably has more than one species of mosquito, for example here in Wisconsin we have not less than 58 species. Even tiny Rhode Island is home to at least 46 mosquito species!

    Hell, here in Louisiana, the mosquito is the fscking state bird....

    :)

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  10. Re:Lets fuck it up. by mark-t · · Score: 4, Informative

    The immediate side effect is that there will not be any mosquitoes.

    No serious negative repercussions are known to exist for such an event beyond that the diet of certain types of insect predators would be affected (fortunately for such predators, their diet is not exclusively dependent on the species of mosquito that this concept intends to render extinct). The net effect upon mankind should be positive, other than possibly causing companies that make mosquito repellent to possibly go out of business.

    But seriously.... did you *NEED* somebody to have to spell that all out for you? They're mosquitoes, for crying out loud... and not some vital part of the food chain on which we ourselves are part of.

  11. Re:How about driving their evolution instead? by s7uar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We need a way to mod someone 'Actually read the article'

  12. Re:Mosquitoes will go the way of the dinosaur! by Scarletdown · · Score: 5, Funny

    Result: Males will find it difficult to find a mate, resulting in fewer mosquitoes all together.

    And then those mateless male mosquitos will either go into IT, become imaginary property lawyers, or become politicians.

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  13. Re:Mosquitoes will go the way of the dinosaur! by Ossifer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will they be mango-flavoured?

  14. Re:Mosquitoes will go the way of the dinosaur! by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 4, Informative

    Male mosquitoes feed on nectar from flowers, in the lab we feed them sugar water. Female mosquitoes on the other hand require a blood meal for the proper development of their eggs. Mosquitoes live in the water as free swimming larvae, which will develop into similarly free-swimming pupae. When development is complete, the pupae floats to the water surface and the adult mosquito emerges. The adult mosquito stands on the water surface while its new exoskeleton and wings dry and harden. The adult mosquito can't swim, and while it can walk on water it only does so when emerging from the pupae and for some species when depositing eggs. It minimizes water walking in both cases and flies away as soon as possible. That's what makes this so cool. The female, and only the female mosquito, is stuck on the water unable to fly and practically motionless. It's a free lunch to any mosquito-eating predator around. The males on the other hand are free to escape and then free to mate and pass that gene on to their offspring--again fatal to their daughters, and no harm to their sons, who repeat the cycle.