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Proteins Build "Cages" Around Bacteria

ananyo writes "Research in human cells shows that proteins called septins are able to build cages around pathogens to prevent them from infecting other cells. According to the researchers, the newly discovered defense system could lead to new therapies for diseases. The microbes trapped in the cage are later broken down by the cell."

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  1. Prevention as well by erick99 · · Score: 2

    Perhaps, if this approach ends up working, not only could it be used for treating diseases but possible could be used to prevent diseases by somehow encoding them into genes. Not sure if you would do that just for folks who have a history of a disease or offer such a solution to a larger group much in the way we do inoculation for disease.

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    1. Re:Prevention as well by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, program your genes to build cages around cells. What could go wrong with that?

      Well, except for the fact that the majority of cells in the human body aren't, technically, human at all. There are more bacterial cells than human ones. So, snarky comments aside, that would be extremely dangerous. You might be able to select only dangerous cells, but I very much doubt it. Not genetically, anyways. Anti-bacterial agents need to be targeted specifically, or you can do more harm than good.

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    2. Re:Prevention as well by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have to laugh at you and the grandparent... all I can say is RTFA! :)

      Our cells already use septins to build cages around bacterial pathogens - this research just is the first time someone has observed it in human cells. The talk of new drugs is in how to artificially encourage this behavior.

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    3. Re:Prevention as well by mrxak · · Score: 2

      Certainly an interesting article, but while I don't claim to be an expert, your understanding seems more limited than mine. The bacteria your link discusses are very different than the ones being talked about in TFA. Your bacteria are rather helpful, and they aren't invading human cells and screwing them up. The ones being talked about in TFA are doing significant harm and the cells' natural defense mechanism is what's being researched.

      Actually, the use of these special walls talked about in TFA might have less side effects than broad spectrum antibiotics used today, which go and kill those helpful bacteria living in your guts indiscriminately. Some medicine that encourages septins would probably only target harmful bacteria invading human cells.

  2. Prison by cyachallenge · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I ain't done nuffin! Letme out bitches!"

    1. Re:Prison by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

      "You're my little bacterium now..."

  3. Re:Septins are to Antibiotics as IPv6 is to IPv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now the only thing that stands in the way is government red tape.

    Government is bad, blah blah blah. Nevermind that governments are responsible for much of this fundamental research. Through public schools, public institutions and grants. Blah blah blah, shut up.

  4. Our amazing bodies by wvmarle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Our bodies continue to amaze me. So complex systems, so adaptable and flexible. And the second amazing part is of course that we are able to "see" those molecular processes, can figure out how it happens, and subsequently manipulate it.

    And of course this complexity and flexibility is not limited to the human body but basically all life forms on this planet. The more we learn about life, the more amazing it becomes.

    1. Re:Our amazing bodies by viperidaenz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thats what happens when you're got ~3 billion years of evolution (or 6000 years of creation, if you're moderately retarded)

    2. Re:Our amazing bodies by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      Part of the amazing part is that life managed to start one way or another and that such evolution could take place to begin with. Even the simplest life forms (such as viruses - though I know there is discussion going on about whether they should be classified as "living" to begin with) on earth are already really complex.

    3. Re:Our amazing bodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Our bodies continue to amaze me.

      They continue to disappoint me.

      If you take a single bullet in a seemingly insignificant area and don't receive treatment, you'll probably die. Your teeth are incredibly fragile (brushing too hard is bad, most people get cavities, etc). Your bones are fragile. Everything about the human body is fragile.

      Weak and pathetic. That probably applies to most other creatures as well.

    4. Re:Our amazing bodies by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

      Life just adapts to exploit all possible resources. Viruses have just adapted to exploit living cells. Why do you need to expend your own resources reproducing when you can hijack the resources of other cells?

    5. Re:Our amazing bodies by BlackSupra · · Score: 2

      It is also amazing to see the cellular processes!

      Video of a Neutrophil granulocytes white blood cell chasing a Staphylococcus aureus bacteria by David Rogers, Vanderbilt University 1950s http://www.biochemweb.org/neutrophil.shtml (video mirror http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnlULOjUhSQ )

      This video is taken from a 16-mm movie made in the 1950s by the late David Rogers at Vanderbilt University. It was given to me via Dr. Victor Najjar, Professor Emeritus at Tufts University Medical School and a former colleague of Rogers. It depicts a human polymorphonuclear leukocyte (neutrophil) on a blood film, crawling among red blood cells, notable for their dark color and principally spherical shape. The neutrophil is "chasing" Staphylococcus aureus microorganisms, added to the film. The chemoattractant derived from the microbe is unclear but may be complement fragment C5a, generated by the interaction of antibodies in the blood serum with the complement cascade, and/or bacterial N-formyl peptides. Blood platelets adherent to the underlying glass are also visible. Notable is the characteristic asymmetric shape of the crawling neutrophil with an organelle-excluding leading lamella and a narrowing at the opposite end culminating in a "tail" that the cell appears to drag along. Contraction waves are visible along the surface of the moving cell as it moves forward in a gliding fashion. As the neutrophil relentlessly pursues the microbe it ignores the red cells and platelets. However, its leading edge is sufficiently stiff (elastic) to deform and displace the red cells it bumps into. The internal contents of the neutrophil also move, and granule motion is particularly dynamic near the leading edge. These granules only approach the cell surface membrane when the cell changes direction and redistributes its peripheral "gel." After the neutrophil has engulfed the bacterium, note that the cell's movements become somewhat more jerky, and that it begins to extend more spherical surface projections. These bleb-like protruberances resemble the blebs that form constitutively in the M2 melanoma cells missing the actin filament crosslinking protein filamin-1 (ABP-280) and may be telling us something about the mechanism of membrane protrusion.

              Thomas P. Stossel (Brigham and Women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School), June 22, 1999

  5. Bacterial Lobster Traps by Joe+Torres · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you think this is cool, then you should look up the work of Dr. Jason Shear at the University of Texas (http://jshear.cm.utexas.edu/jshear/). His laboratory designs cages/houses/traps for bacteria. One of his papers that I am familiar with is "Probing Prokaryotic Social Behaviors with Bacterial 'Lobster Traps'" (http://mbio.asm.org/content/1/4/e00202-10.full).

  6. Re:Our amazing bodies - amazingly FLAWED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The limitation of evolution is this: each successive version needs to be a slight modification on the previous version. Some forward and backward compatibility is available.

    Way back, we more or less worked as worms. A two layer set of cells shaped as a tube: one set inside the tube, which specialized in taking food in one end, digesting it, and spitting the waste out the other end, and the other outside the tube, protecting the organism, sensing for sources and danger, and working out which way to point. Bilateral symmetry is great for this: You have an advantage over predators since it's equally likely you'll go one way vs. the other, rather than having an obvious preference for, say, left turns. Why not higher orders of symmetry, say trilateral? Because we evolved in a gravity field, so mutations that take advantage of up and down (top-mount legs aren't that useful) tend to get kept while those that prefer left over right don't.

    So why one trachea? Because when we swam, the gill system worked the best. It was more or less self-balancing and redundant where it needed to be: at the oxygen exchangers. Plus it reused the existing tech of single-intake. If you have two mouths, either you're buying twice as many parts just to eat twice as fast (could you even?) or you just lost the ability to eat larger things. So since there was little benefit in two mouths, it got abandoned. A twin-trachea setup would require a more complex (read: easier to break) epiglottis, and have balancing issues. So it got ditched: it cost too much to get rid of the single point of failure.

    Also, having the mouth route to both the esophagus and trachea as another feature: safety! See, food goes in the opening that leads to the esophagus. Now if the food gets stuck, the folks with the trachea and esophagus routed to the mouth have an advantage: they can use the lungs to blow the blockage free. There are other features: cilia move contaminants out of the lungs to get trapped by nasal mucus and routed down to the esophagus: with two mouths, the breathing one would have to get thing all the way out to the outside by itself, and contaminants that entered via the eating mouth could only be kicked out one way: throwing up. So we'd leave a trail of phlegm and vomit for predators to find. Then there's how the sense of smell augments the sense of taste because they share the airway, which again makes you more survivable...

    All the paired items you name derive from the bilateral symmetry modification. They arose on the sides of the worm, and here we are. The brain is rather bilaterally symmetric itself, and quite redundant. You might have noticed the slot in the middle?

    As for one heart: multiple hearts have been tried! The aforementioned worms eventually evolved to have several hearts. Problem is, they're weak, and put together they won't move the needed blood volume at the needed pressure. The single-heart design is simply more optimized: it's lighter for its capacity and you need no complex regulation system to coordinate them to prevent one's mistiming from blowing out the valves on the other.

    Again, if you were designing from scratch, you could do a better design. Whether it can be packed into 46 chromosomes without being cancer-riddled is TBD, of course. But that's more evidence that evolution is at fault: the "small changes a step at a time" plan won over the "rewrite from scratch so it will be better" way, because you had to survive, even in intermediate forms. A lot like software, really.

    BTW, if one of your trachea gets plugged, don't wait a week. You'll be immediately down half your lung capacity, you'll only have one lung with which to blow the chunk out, you'll have to coordinate both sides so you don't blow the chunk out one and into the other, and all the time you wait the bacteria in there are going to be going to town turning anything of you they can eat into more of them. So yeah, things that encourage procrastination might get you killed (read: make you less survivable).

  7. Re:Our amazing bodies - amazingly FLAWED by cashman73 · · Score: 2
    OK, so why does it have only ONE HEART and ONE TRACHEA?

    I am a Time Lord, you insensitive clod!

  8. Re:Our amazing bodies - amazingly FLAWED by jovius · · Score: 2

    The limitation of evolution is this: each successive version needs to be a slight modification on the previous version.

    I'd add that practically infinite amount of modifications have provided to be unsuccesful - it's a blind process. The strength lies in diversity. The more diverse the gene pool the readier the pool is to confront even relatively sudden changes, because a lot of variations are readily available.

    The ID/Creationists only see the one perfect path because of their religious belief. It would not be right for them to say that god makes 99 wrong decisions per 1 right, because it would degrade the image of an omnipotent entity.

  9. Re:Septins are to Antibiotics as IPv6 is to IPv4 by OldHawk777 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The government over the last 40 years has proportionally cut funding to all theoretical and applied science, medicine, and engineering. If BigBiz-Brother is not interested in the research outcome, then no funding comes from BigBiz-Brother. BigBiz-Brother will fund interpretations and falsifications of research results for more corporate-welfare laws. The cure for big-profit diseases is close to impossible (almost accidental) in the present environment, but treatments for big-profit diseases are very innovative, competitive, and highly profitable.

    Presently it is un-American, when corporate-welfare will be adversely impacted, to cure any big-profit diseases ; Hence, the government is not adding much to the deficit for cures that would disrupt the global economy for the plutocrats.

    I heard someone say that poor-people make much better lab-rats for testing expensive treatments.

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