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Earth's Core Made In Miniature

ananyo writes "A 3-meter-tall metal sphere full of molten sodium is about to start work modeling the Earth's core. The gigantic dynamo, which has taken researchers ten years to build, 'will generate a self-sustaining electromagnetic field that can be poked, prodded and coaxed for clues about Earth's dynamo, which is generated by the movement of liquid iron in the outer core.'"

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  1. Re:Woohoo! by durrr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Next step is to drop the content of the sphere into a lake surrounded by high speed 4k cameras with hardened storage units.

  2. Craving by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    Suddenly I'm having a craving for a Cadbury Cream Egg.

  3. Re:How they know... by sslayer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do you know what happens with practice and theory? In theory, they are both the same. In practice, they are not.

  4. Re:That doesn't sound right... by Megahard · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, you could check. Melting point of sodium is 97.72 C.

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  5. Now work can begin... by Saishuuheiki · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...on our doomsday device to stop the earth's core from spinning.

    Small scale tests first before we build the full-size model.

  6. Re:How they know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Be cause none of the theories, Magneto Hydro Dynamics (MHD), the Vlasov Equation, etc... are correct. The equations are two complex to solve so they have to make approximations. You need experiment to understand what terms are important and what terms are wrong. Plus a lot of times theorists use rediculus scaling parameters such that these phenomena can never happen in nature.

    In science nobody believes the theory except the theorist and everybody believes the experiment except the experimentalist.

  7. Yawn by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yawn! Wake me when they have a dual-core earth.

    The single-core model is bound to revolve to slowly!

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  8. Re:How they know... by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And this distinction is noteworthy because you can measuring what happens in practice, find where it doesn't meet the theory, and revise your theory. This is how science gets done.

  9. Re:How they know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Plus a lot of times theorists use rediculus...

    Wow, and here I am thinking calculus was hard.

  10. Re:How they know... by JosKarith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Calculations showed powered flight to be possible - why did Orville & Wilbur build the Flyer?
    Why was the first atomic pile built? Why the first moon shot?
    Because we can. Because theory is all well and good, but to actually have the thing in reality confirms (or disproves, usually dramatically) the theory.

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  11. Re:How they know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine if it was three complex!

  12. Re:How can this produce accurate results? by athmanb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A team of physicists has worked 10 years on this, writing hundreds of pages of papers to coerce funding out of federal institutes but you can spot the flaw in their plans after 30 seconds of thinking and writing an Internet comment?

  13. Re:Woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    what?

  14. Re:How can this produce accurate results? by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being able to answer that question, and not merely ask it, is why these people get to play with 3-metre balls of molten sodium for a living.

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  15. Re:That doesn't sound right... by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sodium != salt, which is probably what you are thinking of (seems to be the trend in the comments around yours). Sodium is a metal, not a salt (NaCl is common table salt, which melts closer to 1000C or something).

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  16. Re:Just starting? by schiiz · · Score: 5, Informative

    The experiment was previously filled with water in order to resolve the fluid flow. Water and Sodium have very similar viscous properties so long as you have the temperatures correct. Sodium is also opaque so you can't use lasers and are limited to a combination of ultrasound and flow tomography (basically, backing out the flow from the induced magnetic field), so its somewhat common practice to do a water model of sodium experiments. Lathrop's Water part of the experiment lasted 4ish years? (I think, perhaps between 2 and 4?) because he encountered some interesting hydrodynamic effects. I saw Dr. Lathrop speak at a conference about 3 weeks ago and they were about halfway thru the fill process then, so this article lines up quite nicely with what would have been a reasonable completion time.

  17. Re:Woohoo! by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 5, Funny

    No highspeed cameras, but here you go - disposal of a couple of 1000 pounds of sodium metal by dumping it into a lake. Old newsreel footage from a time when men were men and chemists were the most manly of them....

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