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Apple Loses Tablet Battle In Australia

New submitter harmic writes "The Australian Federal High Court has denied Apple's appeal against the earlier decision that overturned the ban on sales of the Galaxy Tab. The Samsung Android based tablets should be in the shops in a matter of days. Apple had attempted to appeal an earlier court ruling overturning the ban."

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  1. What an appalling title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Apple loses appeal to ban Samsung Galaxy Tab in Australia" - beyond your abilities to write that?

    Appalling title.

    1. Re:What an appalling title by errandum · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How so? It's a fairly accurate description O_o.

      You're kind of nitpicking here, in my opinion.

    2. Re:What an appalling title by kno3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not in my opinion. It is an appallingly misleading title. The tablet battle definitely implies the sales battle. This title would almost always point to Apple not being as popular as another brand. Most people reading that title would not expect it to mean they loose a court ruling.

  2. Also lost iPad trademark in China by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm surprised I've not seen this posted yet, but a few days ago Apple lost control of the iPad trademark in China after a dispute.

    http://www.macworld.com.au/news/apple-loses-trademark-in-china-no-longer-called-ipad-41378/

    1. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by horza · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's interesting. Shenzhen trademarks the iPad back in 2000, then Apple launches the iPad in 2010 and promptly tries to sue Shenzhen for trademark infringement. Apple now cannot even call their tablet the iPad in one of the world's largest markets China. Their wildly illogical lawsuits, turning them into one of the world's most hated companies, are really starting to backfire everywhere.

      Phillip.

    2. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by PaladinAlpha · · Score: 4, Informative

      Article detailing the lawsuit here. Apple did, in fact, sue the local business asserting a stronger claim to the trademark.

    3. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by Colourspace · · Score: 4, Funny

      In communist China Slashdot is powered by your submissions..

    4. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apple are so gay

      There's nothing wrong with their being gay, but increasingly they are changing from the cool, Neil Patrick Harris/John Barrowman kind of gay into the evil Saddam Hussein/Satan kind of gay.

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    5. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by jrumney · · Score: 4, Informative

      Shenzhen sold apple the international trademark to "iPad" back in 2006.

      The city of Shenzhen never held the iPad trademark. Proview Technology (Taipei) sold the trademark that they held in a number of countries, but Proview Technology (Shenzhen) chose to hold onto the trademark in China.

    6. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by jrumney · · Score: 4, Informative

      The "fact" as quoted is incorrect, as Proview (the company) sold its rights to another company, which sold them on to Apple in 2009.

      Probably the other company didn't care that their deal excluded China as they had no intention of doing business there, and when Apple bought it, they mistakenly believed they were buying the rights for the whole world, because the company name of the holder recorded for China matched the previous owner of the trademark they were buying apart from the city in which the company was based.

  3. denied with costs? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Googling it returns this news story, does it mean Apple will have to pay Samsungs legal costs or even what Samsung is going to claim they have lost because of it?

    Apple case isn't looking good, they are getting thrown out all over the world and the small wins are for trivial stuff Samsung can and has worked around. Meanwhile Apples reputation has taken a nosedive not being helped that Jobs epitaph seems to consist of "prick in a turtleneck". Screwing your partner out of a few hundred when he will one day make you a billionaire is just sad.

    I still wonder what Apple was thinking. Yes, the Samsung tablets and for that matter anyone elses look a lot alike. And? I tried it at a local super store. Gosh, they are indeed very similar. Then I wandered over the washing machine department. Talk about copy cats. Really, take a LOOK someday, they are ALL the same. Even the place you the soap in. I couldn't find a single model on display where the soap didn't go in on the left. Even the order of pre-wash, wash and fabric softener is like that, from left to right.

    And don't even get me started on fridges. white boxes the lot of them. About the only exception are the american models which ALL have the water dispenser in the LEFT door which is narrower then the right door.

    So maybe Apple was the first to copy the design from a prop maker. Was it worth it Apple? We who are not fanboys now have fresh ammo to slap your buyers around with now that the one-mouse button joke has gotten a bit stale (mind you, tablets do have only one mouse button... old jokes never die it seems, they just get re-used on slashdot). Injunctions thrown out, might have to pay whatever Samsung is going to claim as damages and you made a Korean mega-corp many times larger and closely tied to a not-so-democratic regime that has taken thousands up on thousands of western job as the sympathetic underdog.

    Maybe here is a hint for Apple, next time the lawyers suggest a strategy. Hit them!

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    1. Re:denied with costs? by stainlesssteelpat · · Score: 4, Informative

      down here loser pays, they lost with costs.

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    2. Re:denied with costs? by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not quite. Joo Joo was released March 25th 2010, whereas iPad was announced January 27th 2010.

      Joojoo was announced before the iPad. And it was released before the iPad. But it wasn't released before the iPad was announced.

      Note also that there's a qualitative difference between the Joojoo announcement and the iPad one. With the Joojoo announcement, there wasn't even a final look to the device for which they could show a picture. With the iPad announcement, the actual device was demonstrated live on stage.

      Joojoo was released 5 days before the iPad, but the look of it dated from after the iPad was demoed.

    3. Re:denied with costs? by chrb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "If people had understood how patents would be granted when most of today’s ideas were invented, and had taken out patents, the industry would be at a complete standstill today." - Bill Gates

      It wasn't that patenting wasn't allowed, it was just that nobody really understood how generic and obvious patents would be treated in the future. If I could time travel to 1995, I could tell myself to patent connecting a GPS receiver to a laptop and having it query a database running on a secondary server. That would now be called mobile geolocation services, and the patent would be worth billions of dollars. Similarly, at some point in the 90s, I had the idea of transferring executable objects as part of a client/server display. That would now be called a web applet, and again the patent would be worth billions.. If I had only known that adding the suffixes "on the web" or "on a mobile device" was a valid way to create new patents, then I would have patented "telephony... on [the web/mobile device]", "video... on [the web/mobile device]", "instant messaging... on [the web/mobile device]". But, back then, who knew that the system would turn out to be so crazy?!

  4. Would be funny if by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple wastes a gazillion dollars trying to get the Galaxy tablet banned, and fail... only to find out later that Samsung kills the product themselves due to slow sales, a la HP Touchpad and RIM whatever

    1. Re:Would be funny if by Xest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It'd be even more funny if that happened after Apple had been made to pay for millions in lost sales caused by the ban they requested.

  5. Re:Isn't it about time Xerox sued Apple? by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nice rewrite of history.

    Apple paid for the use of Parc's innovations. They later had "seller's remorse" when they decided they should have asked Apple for more than what they got, but in classic style they didn't see the value in what they had, but felt entitled to try and change the terms of the deal afterwards.

    There was no "ripping off" of Parc technology - it was all shared in exchange for money/shares/compensation.

  6. Re:Its not me rewriting history by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Xerox were "kindly" allowed to buy apple stock in return for letting apple engineers visit their research centre. Apple never directly paid for any of the innovations they used.

    Kindly allowed to buy at a reduced price. And if they hadn't sold the stock, it would be worth several billion dollars today.

  7. Re:Isn't it about time Xerox sued Apple? by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "PARC was a ripoff of Engelbart's demo at SRI. "

    Englebert didn't invent the GUI and his demo didn't have one. Just the mouse. Which is hardware, not software.

    No idea. I don't know anything about that demo.

    "Linux is a ripoff of UNIX."

    Thats exactly what it is and its the reason I use it.

    "GNOME is a ripoff of Windows."

    Pretty much. So is KDE.

    "Nearly everything in computing is an incremental improvement from something else"

    There's incremental improvement and then there's direct copying. Its not the same.

    "Apple massively improved the desktop metaphor with the Lisa and Mac."

    Did they? Have you seen any Xerox Star demos? They're on youtube if you're interetsed.

    "WHICH APPLE PAID XEROX TO USE."

    NO THEY DIDN'T. Xerox *PAID* apple to buy apple stock. BIG difference.

    "This historical rewriting that occurs amongst Apple-haters"

    Ah , you're a fanboi. That explains the blinkers.

    "It paints you as a blinded zealot."

    Now there's a nice bit of irony. Perhaps the turtleneck is too tight and is cutting off blood to your brain so you can't see it.

  8. not funny at all by khipu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given how fast the Android market is evolving, Samsung only had a few months to make a profit on the 10.1. Apple killed that window of opportunity with their injunction. Now, newer and better tablets are already out.

    Apple lost the case but they hurt Samsung badly. Apple should be made to pay for the harm they did to Samsung. And Apple may have opened themselves up to similar claims against them in the future, as other companies will now start to take out silly design patents as well and use them against Apple product launches.