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Virginia May Help People Pay For Space Burials

PolygamousRanchKid writes "Want to be buried in space? Virginia would help pay for it under proposed legislation that aims to boost the Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport. The bill, which the General Assembly will debate next year, would provide a Virginia income tax deduction up to $2,500 a year for such burials. Proponents hope the measure will provide revenue for the spaceport, which is expanding because NASA decided to cancel the space shuttle program. The facility, which describes itself as a 'full-service, FAA-licensed spaceport,' is located at Wallops Island on Virginia's coast."

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  1. This is a terrible idea by For+a+Free+Internet · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they are in space then they will become space ghosts because GOD can't get to them there, like it says in the BIBLE GOD does not exist outside of the Ionosphere that is the line of the Italians who will drink all our water from space with dead people. Besides, they smell and PASTA need I SAY MORE!!!!

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  2. Idiotic plan by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They want to encourage development of the space port. That's a reasonable goal I guess.

    Doing so by subsidising what is surely the most pointless reason to launch something into space and also the most wasteful way to dispose of a human body is just stupid.

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    1. Re:Idiotic plan by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Funny

      the most wasteful way to dispose of a human body.

      Pfft. Hardly. When it's time for me to kick the bucket I plan on piloting the Burj Khalifa directly into the Louvre.

      I'm still working out the details.

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    2. Re:Idiotic plan by Stormthirst · · Score: 2

      I find it sad that you don't consider healthcare to be a need. Personally I find it liberating to know that if I get sick or have an accident (neither of which by definition I have anyway of predicting) I won't have to sell my house in order to pay my medical bills. You want freedom? It's right there.

    3. Re:Idiotic plan by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 2

      It must be interesting to live in your world. Here you have encountered a person that respects the power of the individual human, and all you see is pure evil. Am I on your list of persons that must die, as the New World Order is created?

      You do not know me, but you already hate me. I do fear "loosing" [SIC] my job, getting sick, or anything of the kind. I live paycheck to paycheck these days, already lost my house and renting a much smaller space. I work as many hours as I can when I can get the work. One kid in college I'm trying to help - the only option he has for paying for it is government loans - at much higher terms than the big banks (even the foreign ones) can get. He will be enslaved by that burden for many years. It saddens me.

      Other people even worse off than myself sadden me, too. There are several busy areas in town these days with people panhandling on every corner. I'm kind of a sucker for a hard luck story and can't help but pass on some cash when I have it. Some are fine doing this and would rather stand on the street than anything else (it pays about the same as minimum wage), but many are truly in a bad place and making efforts to improve things for themselves and/or their families. I've had them do some yard work for me at my rental, and it means I'm not making any money that day, but at least there's 2 of us working, so that seems better to me.

      What saddens me worse are people like you so indoctrinated in the world of collectivist, big government ideology, you can't see how the elites are taking control of every aspect of life, and plan to put us all into poverty, working for their enrichment. You actually trust the globalist oligarchy to create the utopian vision of the world you dream about. It's not going to happen, because they don't care about me, and they don't care about you. You're going to have to learn to do some critical thinking - something that they steered you away from in the government schools.

      Yes, "free is not really free" - but the important distinction that has gone over your head is that money is not really money. That is, money of every major type in the world today has no value whatsoever. It's a ruse. And what's running out is resources. It doesn't matter how much money is printed by the EU and the Federal Reserve, it can't create essential resources that actual humans need to live and thrive. But so many people have missed that connection that they think the government can just run an economy and make the resources appear.

      We dont need people like you who think they are entitled to everything because they worked for it.

      You don't need people that work? I think you're sadly mistaken, there. I do happen to think I'm entitled to what I work for. Why wouldn't I? Who has a better claim to what I work for than me? I certainly don't go around telling other people that I'm entitled to what they work for. I'd have to be some kind of a looter or thief to do that.

      When its your turn to beggar, I hope you keep your attitude and pride and don't take from other beggars.

      I'm not sure what you're trying to say, here - "don't take from other beggars." - you're not making sense. Beggars generally don't have anything to give (although I've met many who are willing to share what little they have). But, frankly, I always just hope people will treat me like I treat them. And they usually do. And I think I'll be fine in that case. Because I do whatever needs to be done, and don't expect anyone else to hand me a living.

      I've quoted this somewhere else in this thread, but I think it's appropriate here:

      "SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting o

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    4. Re:Idiotic plan by Stormthirst · · Score: 2

      Except that Health Insurance is out of the price range of so many Americans - around 16%. That's 45 million people who have no coverage.

      As for who provides it - government, or a private company they both have their faults. I'd rather it *were* provided by government, not some money grabbing corporation whose *only* concern is making money from my misfortune. They are a company after all and there to make a profit, not serve the needs of their clients. Sure they serve the needs of some of their clients, or they'd soon go out of business. But when they employ teams of lawyers and doctors to ensure they don't give the coverage I've bought and paid for, it just demonstrates how morally bankrupt such organisations are, and pushing up the price of healthcare in America beyond the reach of many of it's citizens. Please explain to me why healthcare costs twice what it does elsewhere in the first world, when the quality is arguable no better. Even the World Health Organisation said as much.

      Despite asking this question several times on Slashdot, no one has come up with an answer.

  3. Re:No please. by anlag · · Score: 4, Informative

    Perhaps if you'd taken the time to RTFA before rushing to get first post, you'd have realized they're cremated first.

  4. Re:No please. by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Funny

    Screw that. I want my meat-sack like body launched whole into space when I'm dead!

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  5. Re:No please. by cvtan · · Score: 2

    My father was cremated and was buried next to my mother who was not. Can't be that unusual. Maybe.

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  6. Interesting and all, but by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I haven't found a state or province that will allow my family to burn my body on a traditional pyre. I have written the specifications for how the funeral pyre is to be constructed and the protocols to be observed.... yet, all of it, should it be played out can only be done in secret... possibly in the deserts of california (we're working this out as I type.)

    1. Re:Interesting and all, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The solution is to label yourself a magician, then have the stunt go "horribly wrong."

    2. Re:Interesting and all, but by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Informative

      There's apparently an organization in Colorado that's gotten permits to perform open-air cremations on a funeral pyre.

  7. A more accurate title might be... by Bartles · · Score: 2

    The people of Virginia may be forced to waste their money on a stupid pork project.

    1. Re:A more accurate title might be... by yotto · · Score: 2

      It's been proven by mid-level bureaucrats that spending money on expensive vanity projects generates wealth and jobs!

      Heck, at the end of my block the city used federal stimulus money to build a dog park. It created a fourth of a dozen part-time jobs (running the toll-booth thing) paid for by money the city doesn't have. A win all around!

      Could be worse, they could have only hired a sixth of a dozen, or even a twelfth of a dozen.

    2. Re:A more accurate title might be... by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 2

      The people of Virginia may be forced to waste their money on a stupid pork project.

      You're using it wrong. A tax deduction is not "pork" - that's actual revenue earmarked for supporting only a small constituency. All states provide tax deductions for spending on some business or another that brings jobs and revenues to their state. This one is no different than the Michigan tax deduction that Michael Moore took advantage of for filming one of his movies in the state. Well, actually, it is different, because this is a $2,500 deduction from gross income, whereas what Moore got was a refundable credit of up to 42 percent which could amount to millions of dollars, and it's payable even if he ends up with NO tax liability at all.

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  8. Re:No please. by TarMil · · Score: 2

    And how exactly does this make them not space junk?

  9. 2500 per year? by ThreeGigs · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who gets to make the tax deduction? And if it's on the dead guy's estate, why per year? I mean, how many times to they expect a person to die in Virginia, anyhow?

  10. Per year? by PetiePooo · · Score: 5, Funny

    "$2500 a year" it says. Just how many times will they allow a dead person to be shot into space?

    "Today, we say farewell to Uncle Bob's left arm. We're all thankful knowing it will be joining his torso and the rest of his limbs in heaven. Amen"

    "Psst! Aunt Sally, no more tax breaks, please. We're all sick of driving out here to see yet another funeral/blast off."

  11. Re:No please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Great, lets release hundreds of thousands of bits of dust and small particles into space.
    At nearly 30,000kph its still more than enough to ruin space craft.

  12. Texas lets you do that by pem · · Score: 2

    A friend of mine helped with just such a pyre.

  13. Re:No please. by InterGuru · · Score: 3, Informative

    Even fine cremation ashes at orbital velocity can damage satellites.

  14. Also, if you don't want to DIY by pem · · Score: 3, Informative
    The Crestone End of Life Project

    Are you sure you've researched this? You seem to have missed a lot.

  15. bad precedent by eyenot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's like saying it's okay to junk-up our orbit with space debris. "It's just for a little while", yes, then, people will pay more and expect justice from their government when they demand to be put into a stable orbit. "You condoned it for them, so me, too!" Burial in space should necessitate being put on a tracjectory that would actual take you into OUTER space, not in orbit around the Earth.

    Okay, I would accept one stipulation: your container has to be highly magnetized. Whilst in orbit with the rest of the junk, you will have to do some sweeping up and junk collection on behalf of a grateful Earth. Then, when you re-enter, you can bring the junk in with you and you can all incinerate together.

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    1. Re:bad precedent by gman003 · · Score: 2

      IIRC, most space burials are sub-orbital - they re-enter and burn up after 90 days or so, becoming a pollution non-hazard.

  16. Re:No please. by justforgetme · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I want to be cremated by the very atmosphere that sustained me!

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  17. Subsiding what? by DaveGod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Support for a budding enterprise might be worthwhile, but what socio-economic benefit is there from disbursing cremated ash in space? If I was a VA taxpayer I'd be wondering what I'm paying for.

    Presumably the spaceport is primarily for putting up satellites, which can be useful infrastructure.

    Why subsidise a frivolous use of rocket fuel instead of satellites?

  18. Perhaps they shoud subsidise retarded summaries? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    would provide a Virginia income tax deduction up to $2,500 a year for such burials.

    I can just about comprehend dead people paying taxes. But the thought of them coming back to life and, umm, redying on an annual basis has got me confused and a little disturbed.

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  19. Re:No please. by khallow · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article doesn't talk about it, but such cremated remains are encased in a small capsule.

  20. Red state shenanigans by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 2

    So, this is how a former blue state, now red, looks at fiscal responsibility?

  21. Re:No please. by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

    Realeasing the ashes is worse than having them in a container, a tiny fleck of paint once punched a hole 3 inches deep into the space shuttles 4 inch thick windscreen.

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  22. Re:So let me get this straight... by shibashaba · · Score: 2

    Correction, they're gonna use it for deporting illegal aliens.

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