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The Ups and Downs of Being a Twitter Fraudster

Barence writes "PC Pro has a feature examining the psychology and motivation of people who create fake or parody Twitter accounts. The feature reveals how people behind some of the most popular parodies — such as @MrsStephenFry — have gone on to earn commercial success, while others are altogether more sinister. The man behind @Lord_Credo managed to convince many that he was a personal adviser to British Prime Minister, David Cameron, and wormed his way into political circles. He allegedly conned some out of money, took advantage of the hospitality of others, and left the professional reputation of at least one 'in tatters.' He even fabricated a malignant brain tumor, leaving one young member of the group 'utterly distraught.'"

101 comments

  1. That's what happens when... by webanish · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...you don't sign each other's gpg keys!

    1. Re:That's what happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      A very typical nigger thing to do, stealing all that money. I bet the fucking niggers are responsible for all this bullshit.

    2. Re:That's what happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that what kids are calling it these days?

    3. Re:That's what happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Michael Jackson begs to differ.

    4. Re:That's what happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moderation -1
      70% Troll
      30% Insightful

      Alright, which one of you did this?

    5. Re:That's what happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      "portending"

      This word ... I do not think it means what you think it means ...

    6. Re:That's what happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      "Niggers aren't capable of portending to be white you fucking dumbass."

      Are you that Nigerian Prince whose money I'm waiting for?

    7. Re:That's what happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *sigh* You're not even trying anymore, are you?

    8. Re:That's what happens when... by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Yeah everyone knows, if you want a +5 Troll, you get it by adding underrated mods, not labeled positive mods...

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  2. Fraudsters? by Talence · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uhm, it doesn't seem very fair to lump actual fraudsters in the same group as relatively innocent parodists. Once you start making people part with their money, it's a completely different situation.

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    1. Re:Fraudsters? by 1s44c · · Score: 2

      I plan to plan Dutch course in The Hague [taaltaal.nl]

      Err, what?

      Ok, it's a tagline but it's more entertaining than the story anyway.

    2. Re:Fraudsters? by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Well to be honest, this is /. where people can't tell the difference between someone being a troll, and someone being funny.

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    3. Re:Fraudsters? by PPH · · Score: 4, Informative
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    4. Re:Fraudsters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #SarahPalin God will get U 4 That!

    5. Re:Fraudsters? by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Uhm, it doesn't seem very fair to lump actual fraudsters in the same group as relatively innocent parodists. Once you start making people part with their money, it's a completely different situation.

      One guy apparently scammed his former gf for 15k. That's not parody.

      On a more remarkable note ...

      He even fabricated a malignant brain tumor

      Did he submit the plans so other makers can copy it?

    6. Re:Fraudsters? by Uhyve · · Score: 2

      That's the point. It seems weird that the article (or just the summary, I don't care enough to read the article) is lumping parodies in with actual fraudsters (such as the one you pointed out).

    7. Re:Fraudsters? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      I personally believe it's because people only read the words in front of them, not the context of the entire discussion at hand. Poe's law is fine and all that, but even someone like me who has the sense of humor of a 27,000 year old dessicated corpse can tell the difference.

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    8. Re:Fraudsters? by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mind you, it's very much possible to be a parodist and make someone part with their money (such as by buying your wonderful book on a certain noodly heavenly father). It's really a matter of whether or not you do it ethically.

    9. Re:Fraudsters? by mkiwi · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hell, people can't tell the difference between Funny and Insightful, either.

    10. Re:Fraudsters? by Pf0tzenpfritz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
      Church Of SubGenius

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    11. Re:Fraudsters? by crossmr · · Score: 1

      If it's not obviously a parody, it's fraud.

    12. Re:Fraudsters? by Hentai · · Score: 1

      Poe's law makes this distinction pragmatically impossible.

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    13. Re:Fraudsters? by Uhyve · · Score: 1

      Man, a world without subtle humor, that must be a sad place to live in. And now I just realized that you may be parodying the writers of the original article... hmmm...

    14. Re:Fraudsters? by formfeed · · Score: 1

      Hell, people can't tell the difference between Funny and Insightful, either.

      Ha, that was rather funny!

      Or insightful?
      Are you trying to confuse me? Stupid troll!

    15. Re:Fraudsters? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      From the article:

      The man behind @Lord_Credo managed to convince many that he was a personal adviser to British Prime Minister, David Cameron, and wormed his way into political circles.

      From the comment:

      Uhm, it doesn't seem very fair to lump actual fraudsters in the same group as relatively innocent parodists. Once you start making people part with their money...

      It also doesn't seem very fair to lump those in "political circles" with actual people.

      Remember, these are folks who probably consider themselves part of the ruling elite and they were taken in by bogus TWEETS. They're smart enough to run the world but not smart enough to pick up the fucking phone and actually confirm before they start writing checks and getting freaked out about brain tumors? Jesus wept.

      I really think we ought to keep this in mind when thinking about how much trust we should put in anyone in any position of leadership, or who seeks to be in a position of leadership. They are the caliber of people who will make life decisions based on tweets.

      Maybe this should be a question asked at political debates. Make it multiple choice: "You read a tweet from a political leader that you work for saying, "I am dying of brain cancer, please paypal $10,000 to derpaderp69@hotsmail.ru. Do you, a) send the money right away, b) start grieving and pick out a suit with a nice red tie for the funeral since it will be on television, c) do a victory dance and fist pump saying "Good, I hated that fucker" or d) make a phone call to see if it's real?"

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    16. Re:Fraudsters? by crossmr · · Score: 1

      There is a difference between subtle humour and trying to impersonate an individual, even if you think it is a joke.

    17. Re:Fraudsters? by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      They're smart enough to run the world but not smart enough to pick up the fucking phone and actually confirm before they start writing checks and getting freaked out about brain tumors?

      Smart people do not run the world. Democracy ensures that liars run the world.

  3. Sigh by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is why you shouldn't believe everything you read on teh interwibbles.

    Second thoughts, s/everything/anything/

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    1. Re:Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interwibbles? Ugh. I'm willing to sacrifice karma to voice my objections to seeing that term again.

  4. Its disgusting by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why can't they behave like us on slashdot, where everyone is exactly who they say they are?

    1. Re:Its disgusting by Nidi62 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why can't they behave like us on slashdot, where everyone is exactly who they say they are?

      Would have been a lot funnier if you had posted this AC

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    2. Re:Its disgusting by PPH · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You forgot to check the AC box.

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    3. Re:Its disgusting by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I'm on to you Chrisq, and my elite team of helicopters will be at your house shortly.

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    4. Re:Its disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      For a moment I thought your reply was of epic proportions, when I misread your account name as "Christ".

    5. Re:Its disgusting by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      You're modded as funny, but sometimes there's a reason to remain semi-anonymous. I signed up for Slashdot a long time ago when I didn't think twice about using my real name in online communications. When I signed up for Twitter, though, I decided to use a pseudonym. Now, I find myself under assault by someone who claims I'm the made-up identity of someone else. I could reveal my real name, but that won't really help. This person claims God told her about my "fraud". You can guess how successful presenting facts would be when the other person is arguing that their knowledge comes straight from God.

      Meanwhile, I'm happy to be hidden behind the pseudonym because she won't know my real name and real location. She can't track my family down and take actions in person.

      (I'm being vague enough in my post here that I'm comfortable that she won't track down this post and connect the two.)

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    6. Re:Its disgusting by nhaines · · Score: 3, Funny

      (I'm being vague enough in my post here that I'm comfortable that she won't track down this post and connect the two.)

      Sure, until God rats you out again. ;)

    7. Re:Its disgusting by Smallpond · · Score: 1

      God is too busy providing 4th quarter miracles to Tim Tebow.

  5. Raise your hand by koan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you're sick of the verb "tweet".

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    1. Re:Raise your hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *raises hand*

      Though, it's a close second to "cloud"

    2. Re:Raise your hand by SomePgmr · · Score: 2

      Cloud doesn't actually bother me like it does most people. I think it's years of seeing those boring presentations to clients where the Internet was represented by a little visio cloud. Or at least, it bugs me less than some of the more cryptic little nicknames and acronyms we've used over the years.

  6. Re:u should deceive those u can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think you're above the "trash" but couldn't write a correct sentence if your life depended on it.

  7. Lord_Credo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    What a pity, he sounded like a guy you could believe in.

    1. Re:Lord_Credo? by wisnoskij · · Score: 2

      That is the first thing I thought. It looks like, because of his name, that he just started out as a very obvious parodyist. He was probably very surprised when people actually believed him.

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    2. Re:Lord_Credo? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I don't trust him. I just get the feeling he's going to turn into some flying supernatural creature and we'll need to fight with giant swords.

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  8. Re:u should deceive those u can by PPH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On a somewhat related topic: In the book The Big Short (about the derivatives crash), Lewis describes a fund manager that suffers from Asperger syndrome. A very smart guy, but not susceptible to the back-slapping and other bullshit typically used to push questionable investment products in the industry. He kept asking for numbers to back up the bankers' claims. When note were forthcoming, he did his own research and, as a result, shorted many of the derivative products on the market. He earned billions of dollars for his fund.

    Sometimes, a touch of Asperger helps. Or at least one can step back and observe the social interactions*.

    *I hang around with a group of behavioral psychologists. When we go out to a bar, its funny to sit and watch them observe and classify social interactions around themselves as if they were watching a cage with a bunch of chimpanzees in an experiment.

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  9. Re:u should deceive those u can by zugedneb · · Score: 1

    yes, that is by default. but in my experience, the trash considers me garbage, so i can't see the problem...

  10. Re:u should deceive those u can by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    u can not decieve a matematician, surgeon, musicist or any other who work in practical fields that require a rational head and vigorous study.

    lol Whoever told you that, DEFINITELY deceived you. This is social engineering, not parametric equations.

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  11. Re:u should deceive those u can by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Funny

    u can decieve the trash that live entirely in "people space": many politicians, psycologists, theatre people, generally "social sciences" kind of people... why?

    Other people can. You couldn't. A minimum level of literacy is required.

  12. Re:u should deceive those u can by fsckmnky · · Score: 3, Funny

    as if they were watching a cage with a bunch of chimpanzees in an experiment.

    Isn't this exactly what a behavioral psychologist is trained to do ?

  13. Unless it's David Cameron & Friends by Rix · · Score: 1

    Then it's a public service.

  14. Re:u should deceive those u can by zugedneb · · Score: 0

    wery well then. let me see u "worm ur self" in to a a circle of educated people... yeah, like make me belive that u are a guru on combinatorial algorithms, hmm? make me believe that u are some big military tactician, can u? a botanist? fucking relativistic retard

  15. Re:u should deceive those u can by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, I am one of that small, elite, circle of people who knows how to capitalize my sentences. Work hard, and someday you too may enter this elite group.

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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  16. Sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There have been documented cases of impostors who've been able to pose as e.g. doctors/surgeons(!), airline pilots (etc.) for years and years.

    Those are certainly fields which require "a rational head and vigorous study".

    The easiest people to fool are those who think they cannot be fooled... such as yourself.

    1. Re:Sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  17. Re:u should deceive those u can by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

    Give me access to your keyboard and I'll be able to capitalize your sentences too.

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  18. Re:u should deceive those u can by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2

    *I hang around with a group of behavioral psychologists. When we go out to a bar, its funny to sit and watch them observe and classify social interactions around themselves as if they were watching a cage with a bunch of chimpanzees in an experiment.

    Whoah dude. That's seriously meta, right there.

  19. Re:u should deceive those u can by phantomfive · · Score: 0

    that u may not respect me is by my design, but if u care to answer please stay on topic.

    Truly I don't respect you, but only because your words aren't respectable. If you chose to write in an unrespectable way, it's probably as a psychological cover for that fact that no one respected you in the first place. So now you can blame that on your method of writing, instead of on the actual words.

    now, i am fucking imploring u with this task: pick a fucking field, and make me belive that u are som hotshot in it. this is tha topic, yes?

    Maybe I can't, maybe you will choose to believe nothing. Which is sad. But I am in fact, easily in the top 5% of programmers. I can disassemble other programmer's binaries in cases when I can't get the source code, and I can write a compiler, if I chose to. I've worked on high profile projects which you've heard of, but I feel no compunction to brag about those to a person who can't even write a complete sentence.

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  20. Re:u should deceive those u can by The+Askylist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Scene: a mathematical conference.

    First Mathematician: Who's the spacker in the tin-foil hat over there?

    Second Mathematician: Oh, that's just zugendneb, our tame lolcat. We keep him because he can sniff out social engineers and destroy them with his wit and repartee. He can't write English worth a shit, but his texting skills are a legend in his own lunchtime.

  21. Dangerous by Hentes · · Score: 1

    If you sign someones key you are actually revealing yours.

    1. Re:Dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The horror! They could send me encrypted messages or verify messages signed by me. Really dangerous.

    2. Re:Dangerous by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      If that is really your belief, then you seriously need to go back and RTFM.

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    3. Re:Dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you sign someones key you are actually revealing yours.

      You seem to be confused about the difference between symmetric and asymmetric encryption. When you sign someone's key, you are only revealing your public key (which you do anyway if you want to make use of key-pair systems like gpg to send and receive and sign stuff), not your private key.

  22. Re:u should deceive those u can by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Funny

    I will then assume that you are indeed the respectable expert that you claim to be, and speak to you accordingly.

    HA! I tricked you! I am not actually a programmer, I just play one on Slashdot.

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  23. Re:u should deceive those u can by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

    *I hang around with a group of behavioral psychologists. When we go out to a bar, its funny to sit and watch them observe and classify social interactions around themselves as if they were watching a cage with a bunch of chimpanzees in an experiment.

    This is actually more common to people in general, rather than just behavioral psychologists. I love people watching. Go to the local mal or McDonalds early on Sunday, and you will see a bunch of older folk, planted at a bench/seat, doing just that. It also used to be a popular past time at the airports, back when you could do such a thing.

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  24. Re:u should deceive those u can by PPH · · Score: 1

    This is actually more common to people in general, rather than just behavioral psychologists. I love people watching.

    So, what do you consider to be a proxy for poo-flinging?

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  25. Re:u should deceive those u can by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is actually more common to people in general, rather than just behavioral psychologists. I love people watching.

    So, what do you consider to be a proxy for poo-flinging?

    Tweeting

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  26. Re:u should deceive those u can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When we go out to a bar...cage with a bunch of chimpanzees in an experiment.

    Whoah dude. That's seriously meta, right there.

    Been a while since you've taken a real hard look at the humanity around you - if you've ever looked at all. Its really not so meta after all - if at all.

  27. Not the best example by dnewt · · Score: 1

    @MrsStephenFry is possibly not the best example, since it's quite possible that it is, in fact, the great Mr Fry himself. He'd never admit it of course, since that would spoil the fun.

  28. Re:u should deceive those u can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... as if they were watching a cage with a bunch of chimpanzees in an experiment.

    Umm... I think that's exactly what they're doing.

  29. Re:u should deceive those u can by garyebickford · · Score: 1

    One time a bunch of us software and hardware geeks were sitting in the company cafeteria, and some were rating the ladies going by. One of us remarked, "Hah - I just realized, this is a bunch of 3s and 4s, rating 6s and 7s!" :D

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  30. Re:u should deceive those u can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's quite likely the reason they said 'u' (colloquial shorthand for 'you') instead of 'I.'

  31. Ridiculous by adockery · · Score: 0

    It is crazy, all these people posing as someone else. What is the point? I don't get it.

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  32. Re:u should deceive those u can by moortak · · Score: 1

    Robin Sage

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  33. My experience with a parody account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having seen no comments yet from anyone who's actually done this...

    I run a fake twitter feed, lampooning a guy known in several wide social circles known for his... lets say "interesting" personality. He's not exactly widely loved or widely hated (maybe polarizing though), but he can be counted on to have an unexpected viewpoint on basically anything. (It might be Aspergers, we don't know.) The actual guy doesn't seem to mind, because I take care to not say anything mean.

    The account has turned out to be a decent hit among the people that know him. The people that love him immensely and hate him immensely both like it similarly. Also, it gives me an outlet for some creativity and humor. Finally, there is a very small rush from "pleasing an audience," even if it is only 80 or so people, and only a small fraction of those 80 knowing it is me on the other end. ...And that's about the extent of it. No commercialization, no defrauding anyone of their money, not even 100 followers. But it makes 80 people's lives, and mine, an iota better.

    1. Re:My experience with a parody account by Bucky24 · · Score: 1

      But it makes 80 people's lives, and mine, an iota better.

      Without making anyone else's worse. And that, I feel, is the important distinction.

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    2. Re:My experience with a parody account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      @FakeDanShoop right?

  34. Brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He even fabricated a malignant brain tumor

    Guess you'd have to have a brain first - else it would just be a scull cavity tumour.

  35. FTFY by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but that's incorrect. Here's a picture to clear it up for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Public_key_signing.svg

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  36. Re:u should deceive those u can by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

    You see, I come to this forum to read the posts of low UID users

    Are you f'in crazy?

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  37. Re:u should deceive those u can by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

    Whoosh. Also does semi-insulting random strangers on the Internet make you feel better about yourself?

  38. Re:u should deceive those u can by PhinMak · · Score: 1

    For the win!

  39. Re:u should deceive those u can by oreiasecaman · · Score: 1

    It's been some time since I've actually laughed to tears, thank you :D

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  40. Re:u should deceive those u can by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    Incidentally, with my last post, I didn't mean any offense. I really think you'll have a better time if you present yourself as competent on Slashdot. Yeah, you'll attract trolls, but you'll also attract people who are not trolls as well.

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