Oh, I'm sorry, do you think the NCA, Mossad, Al-amn al-Watani, Ministry Of Intelligence and Security, State Security Department, etc., don't spy on their own citizens too?
The NSA got caught. That's the distinction here. Not what they're doing. Everyone else is doing the same damn thing, they just didn't leave a cheeky 20-something unattended in the server room of their security archives.
"Everyone is doing it, so it's all fine and dandy"
Why not carry around with you a significant power source, that will last potentially billions of years? Sure there could be better or faster ways, but I'd think the star itself would be a precious asset while going out of galaxy!
Yes but this whole thread is about the US invading countries, and if war is justifiable. So, I thought it would add to the discussion citing that Afghanistan has significant resources on their land just sitting there, unexploited.
"It is believed that among other things the country holds $3 trillion in untapped mineral deposits.[1] In December 2013, President Karzai claimed the mineral deposits are actually worth $30 trillion."
Not all of them. I still have childhood friends around, and I'm no youngster anymore (32 years right now). Of course, we don't hang out all the time as during our childhood time, but we regularly meet, knock a few at the bar... And I've made good friendships as an adult too, not as deep as the childhood ones, but very good friendships nevertheless. Maybe you just were unlucky, because I doubt I'm the only one around here like that.
I wouldn't go so far as to call what's done here "market socialism", Brazil is very, very different from China. We are capitalists too -- means of production are not in gov't hands but in private hands instead. And it's true that our gov't is levying far more than their fair share in taxes, for what is being provided in exchange... I remember reading about Belíndia (sorry but apparently there's no English version!). Belíndia was a local economist's parody of what Brazil was (and mostly still is), with taxes and laws from Belgium and standards of living of India. The worst issue is, we end paying up for things we should have for free, for those things are poorly provided by government... public hospitals suck, so we must pay up private hospitals. Public schools sucks, so we must pay for private schools for our kids. Streets and roads are terrible, so gov't hand them over to corporations who charge tolls... But as I said those things are slowly improving for some time now, IMO.:)
So do you agree that their policies are not Keynesian as the paper I provided shows?
I have to concede that I'm not an economist so I may be wrong, but the policies are sorta-Keynesian, involving government spending to stimulate the economy. And that spending is mostly social welfare projects, like the Bolsa Familia.
Can you provide a source for the improving wealth disparity you claim? Wiki shows this as steady, just like continued problems with corruption and taxes that target the poor.
My claim of the wealth disparity improving is not mine at all, you can look yourselft at the link you provided, Gini index has gone from ~0.6 to ~0.55 in one decade, a substantial improvement IMO. Corruption and taxes affects mostly everyone, not just the poor, and despite the cynism and bias of our media, I think we are slowly improving on that front too.:)
There is very little middle class in Brazil to my knowledge, maybe you have a data source that I can't find.
The current left-wing party in power took over in 2002, take a look again at your own sources using that time frame. Unemployment fell from ~12% to ~5%. Wealth disparity has been steadily decreasing too. Concerning GDP growth rates, I'm forced to agree with you, were somewhat mediocre but managed to avoid recession despite the multiple crisis that blew up since then.
Further, it is using false data to draw their conclusion. Look at Page 4 you will see that their claim simply denies facts. Show me where total poverty has been decreased under Keynesian economics. Show me where the median income vs. inflation has improved. Show me where wealth disparity has improved. You won't find any such thing, yet this is what is assumed in order to move right on the graph and the paper assumes incorrectly that those programs lead to the right. It's rubbish!
Slashdot Mirror
Absolutely useless for me
FTFY
That law is only applicable to roughly 5% of the planet.
I plead guilty to not knowing Chile's trademark laws. Somehow I still doubt it'll fly in TWGC (the world's greatest country)
Kazakhstan?
Oh, I'm sorry, do you think the NCA, Mossad, Al-amn al-Watani, Ministry Of Intelligence and Security, State Security Department, etc., don't spy on their own citizens too?
The NSA got caught. That's the distinction here. Not what they're doing. Everyone else is doing the same damn thing, they just didn't leave a cheeky 20-something unattended in the server room of their security archives.
"Everyone is doing it, so it's all fine and dandy"
Yeah, kill those fucking hipsters!!
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Discriminate someone basing on this is still as shameful as racism IMO
Yo dawg
You really must be an expert, because I haven't understood a damned thing by reading your explanation...
But I can guarantee you they didn't have Tony Stark on their team!
Well... Stars are fusion power plants
Why not carry around with you a significant power source, that will last potentially billions of years? Sure there could be better or faster ways, but I'd think the star itself would be a precious asset while going out of galaxy!
...or she might become a harsh mistress
Yes but this whole thread is about the US invading countries, and if war is justifiable. So, I thought it would add to the discussion citing that Afghanistan has significant resources on their land just sitting there, unexploited.
Not only oil has value, you know
"It is believed that among other things the country holds $3 trillion in untapped mineral deposits.[1] In December 2013, President Karzai claimed the mineral deposits are actually worth $30 trillion."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Afghanistan
And I think that Finland and Sweden are probably going to be pretty cold also, despite being third world countries.
lolwut?
At least your data can be downloaded anytime you want
Lack of freedom
Not all of them. I still have childhood friends around, and I'm no youngster anymore (32 years right now). Of course, we don't hang out all the time as during our childhood time, but we regularly meet, knock a few at the bar...
And I've made good friendships as an adult too, not as deep as the childhood ones, but very good friendships nevertheless. Maybe you just were unlucky, because I doubt I'm the only one around here like that.
Marrying someone who dodges responsibility doesn't seem very smart to me
I wouldn't go so far as to call what's done here "market socialism", Brazil is very, very different from China. We are capitalists too -- means of production are not in gov't hands but in private hands instead. And it's true that our gov't is levying far more than their fair share in taxes, for what is being provided in exchange... I remember reading about Belíndia (sorry but apparently there's no English version!). Belíndia was a local economist's parody of what Brazil was (and mostly still is), with taxes and laws from Belgium and standards of living of India. The worst issue is, we end paying up for things we should have for free, for those things are poorly provided by government... public hospitals suck, so we must pay up private hospitals. Public schools sucks, so we must pay for private schools for our kids. Streets and roads are terrible, so gov't hand them over to corporations who charge tolls... :)
But as I said those things are slowly improving for some time now, IMO.
Streisand effect FTW
So do you agree that their policies are not Keynesian as the paper I provided shows?
I have to concede that I'm not an economist so I may be wrong, but the policies are sorta-Keynesian, involving government spending to stimulate the economy. And that spending is mostly social welfare projects, like the Bolsa Familia .
Can you provide a source for the improving wealth disparity you claim? Wiki shows this as steady, just like continued problems with corruption and taxes that target the poor.
My claim of the wealth disparity improving is not mine at all, you can look yourselft at the link you provided, Gini index has gone from ~0.6 to ~0.55 in one decade, a substantial improvement IMO. Corruption and taxes affects mostly everyone, not just the poor, and despite the cynism and bias of our media, I think we are slowly improving on that front too. :)
There is very little middle class in Brazil to my knowledge, maybe you have a data source that I can't find.
Not true at all . And Brazil's middle class has actually expanded during that last decade too.
The current left-wing party in power took over in 2002, take a look again at your own sources using that time frame. Unemployment fell from ~12% to ~5%. Wealth disparity has been steadily decreasing too. Concerning GDP growth rates, I'm forced to agree with you, were somewhat mediocre but managed to avoid recession despite the multiple crisis that blew up since then.
Further, it is using false data to draw their conclusion. Look at Page 4 you will see that their claim simply denies facts. Show me where total poverty has been decreased under Keynesian economics. Show me where the median income vs. inflation has improved. Show me where wealth disparity has improved. You won't find any such thing, yet this is what is assumed in order to move right on the graph and the paper assumes incorrectly that those programs lead to the right. It's rubbish!
Brazil
+1 Hilarious