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Does Mega Media Control 90% of Content?

smitty777 writes "FastCo has an intriguing article on the vast control of our media by the mega corporations. In the article, Cliff Kuang disputes such claims by the the Frugal Dad that the revenue for the Big Six was over $275.9 billion, and that these companies are in cahoots to control our viewing. Just how much do these companies control?"

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  1. "Cahoots", not "cohorts" by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and that these companies are in cohorts to control our viewing

    ... too bad they're not in cahoots to help improve the use of the English language.

    1. Re:"Cahoots", not "cohorts" by Helpadingoatemybaby · · Score: 4, Funny

      You don't understand -- the companies are in cohorts which makes sense in context of "the fugal dad" -- clearly a reference to a father playing the flugelhorn with his cohorts. It's very high-level stuff here. When slashdot hires editors someday the puns will be even more brilliant.

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    2. Re:"Cahoots", not "cohorts" by pushing-robot · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohort_(military_unit)

      I think the summary is great entertainment. Why do you read Slashdot...to be informed?

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    3. Re:"Cahoots", not "cohorts" by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You want NPR to be less compromised? Contribute more. The Public radio stations make it easy to donate whatever you want.

      Too hard? Oh, I misunderstood. I thought you wanted a solution, rather than just whine.

      For your reference, Public radio stations (at least mine) are approximately 30% compromised by corporations, 8% by the state government, 2% by the federal government, and 60% by the listening public.

      To paraphrase Asimov, to think that corporate media and public radio are equally compromised is to be more wrong than if you'd think just one of them was compromised.

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  2. No he doesn't by esocid · · Score: 4, Informative

    He disputes that there is some big agenda. He admits that a few companies have consolidated almost all media outlets, but like most people, doesn't think there's some agenda to pour out crappy media. Those companies do it just fine independently.

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    1. Re:No he doesn't by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. There's no agenda to put out crappy media, but the vast consolidation gives them an oligopoly. With only five competetitors, and all of them producing dreck, there's no need to produce anything BUT dreck.

      In the end it'll bite them in the ass; the RIAA companies are already obsolete, and as the price of video equipment comes down and the quality goes up, the same will happen to the movie/TV industry.

      Meanwhile, has anybody noticed how more pervasive advertising is than it was before all the consolidation? Three minutes of content followed by four minutes of commercials. It's insane and obscene. I've never seen as much advertising in my whole life as I have in the last ten years. And these people complain they can't make any money? Gomme a break!

    2. Re:No he doesn't by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pretty much. They all play and or show what is most profitable. Thing is that what is most profitable is usually not what is best.
      The other issue are the cable companies. I live in a town of over 200,000 people. We can got only a single network OTA we get about 10 other stations that are religious and or none english but only one network. The reason is that the cable companies are pulling in the network stations from bigger markets near by. Before cable the other stations in my area would have been snapped up to be affiliates. Now the networks see no reason to do that. They get just as many viewers but from fewer stations.
      It isn't some great evil plot other than a plot to make as much money as possible.

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    3. Re:No he doesn't by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In the end it'll bite them in the ass; the RIAA companies are already obsolete

      For one thing, notable record labels provide promotion on commercial FM radio to reach people without smartphones capable of using Internet radio. Not every town has a college radio station that plays all genres. For another thing, even if the RIAA is obsolete, that doesn't mean NMPA, Harry Fox, ASCAP, BMI, and other trade associations of music publishers are obsolete.

      as the price of video equipment comes down and the quality goes up, the same will happen to the movie/TV industry.

      Even with the price of HDTV cameras plummeting, I don't see the price of competent writing, directing, acting, sets, and the like plummeting. Furthermore, a movie needs a soundtrack, and licensing diegetic music for use in movies set after 1922 can exceed and has exceeded (e.g. Clerks) the rest of the cost of the film put together.

    4. Re:No he doesn't by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't see the price of competent writing, directing, acting, sets, and the like plummeting.

      Robert Rodriguez, Shane Carruth and hundreds of others would like to have a word with you.

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    5. Re:No he doesn't by vlm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      With only five competetitors, and all of them producing dreck, there's no need to produce anything BUT dreck.

      You make it sound as bad as domestic car companies. Or banks. Or fast food "restaurants". Hmm. I think we're on to a pattern here...

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    6. Re:No he doesn't by Ihmhi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I know, I'm very happy to be in my mid-twenties during the age where the Internet is really exploding and realizing its power. There's are some *fantastic* people who create entertainment on their own and it comes out way better and more interesting than a lot of the crap on the telly. freddiew and Monty Oum come to mind as a couple of standout examples. Then there's there's loads of fun projects like SMBC Theater and 5 second films. There's even more "Mainstream" stuff (Internet-wise) like CrackedTV, CollegeHumor, and FunnyOrDie making original videos. I think in 5 years we'll really be at the point where the stuff on the Internet is as good as (if not more interesting than) the stuff on television.

      The only barrier that needs to be broken is the duration of videos. Most of these places will put out 1-10 minutes of content a week. There's very little cohesive shows (like sitcoms or dramas) that I've found that can consistantly produce 20+ 22-minute episodes once a year.

      Last recommendation: Next Time on Lonny.

      If anyone else knows of any good shows, dramas, whatever hosted online (I'm particularly fond of stuff like Penny Arcade Television as well), please post them here in a reply. I'd love to check out some new stuff. I've almost entirely phased television out of my life.

    7. Re:No he doesn't by nine-times · · Score: 2

      there's no need to produce anything BUT dreck.

      Worse, there's no *motivation* to produce anything but dreck. When you have a small number of competitors, then everyone is looking for the lowest common denominator, and nobody is really looking for the niche.

      On the other hand, there is some real non-dreck out there. There are shows like "Breaking Bad" and "Louie", which are, in my opinion, amazing. God only knows how "Louie" got on the air.

    8. Re:No he doesn't by eclectus · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The quote from Jobs pretty much sums it up well.

      "When you're young, you look at television and think, There's a conspiracy. The networks have conspired to dumb us down. But when you get a little older, you realize that's not true. The networks are in business to give people exactly what they want. That's a far more depressing thought. Conspiracy is optimistic! You can shoot the bastards! We can have a revolution! But the networks are really in business to give people what they want. It's the truth." - Steve Jobs, Interview in WIRED magazine (February 1996)

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    9. Re:No he doesn't by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Even with the price of HDTV cameras plummeting, I don't see the price of competent writing, directing, acting, sets, and the like plummeting. "

      I do. Actors that get $2.2mill per movie are going away. I see a LOT of indie films that are better than hollywood flicks made for far less and the actors not getting paid obscene amounts of money.

      Padre Nuestro was made with cheap acting and cheap writing and directing.
      Brokeback Mountain was made with cheap acting and cheap writing and directing.
      Requiem for a Dream, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, etc... all for examples of RECENT films made without paying insane money to writes, directors and Actors.

      In fact many of the Best films in history were low budget and not outrageous cost.

      In fact Robert Rodriguez makes some of the absolute best films ever for less than the catering bill for many of the Hollywood "block busters"

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    10. Re:No he doesn't by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The message of consumerism was far stronger and less diluted then than it is now.

      Perhaps you should take a look at what your grandkids and their friends are watching. I have trouble believing that you could push the consumerism message much stronger than this crap:

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV
      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip_girl
      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_the_city
      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN (no, really, this is not just about sports)

      Today's methods of advertising and convincing people to buy things are less overt than they were in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, but they are far more effective. Popular TV shows, and especially shows whose target audience is the 13-24 age, are designed to cultivate a desire to buy things -- clothes, soft drinks, video games, fast food, music, etc. The whole point of MTV, from its inception, was to be a 24/7 advertisement to teenagers, and there has been an effort to maximize the amount of advertising that can be squeezed into every minute.

      Today's message is this: buy things. Period. You are not supposed to be a participant in a capitalist system, exchanging your skills and goods for some other person's, you are just supposed to buy things that other people made.

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    11. Re:No he doesn't by mapkinase · · Score: 2

      Also, I challenge everybody to take 6 top companies in any industry and see how much of the market they control.

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    12. Re:No he doesn't by asdbffg · · Score: 2

      Before we rush to blame big media consolidation for the flood of crappy content, let us consider that "Mall Cop" made more money than "Inglorious Basterds,"District 9," and "Up in the Air ". The Hurt Locker has a box office ranking of #116 for that year. "Star Wars: Episode III" is the top film of 2005. The #2 film of 2010, "Tranformers: Revenge of the Fallen," has grossed over $400 million.

      As long as people keep paying for crap, crap will continue to be made. It's a no brainer.

    13. Re:No he doesn't by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even with the price of HDTV cameras plummeting, I don't see the price of competent writing, directing, acting, sets, and the like plummeting.

      Not to mention the cost for a commercial MPEG license, required for anything you film with that HD camera.

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    14. Re:No he doesn't by kent_eh · · Score: 2

      Indeed. There's no agenda to put out crappy media, but the vast consolidation gives them an oligopoly. With only five competetitors, and all of them producing dreck, there's no need to produce anything BUT dreck.

      The less competition there is, the less work they have to do to compete.
      Which means, the less they have to come up with new ideas. They just default to the same behaviors that all big companies do: playing it safe.
      And in entertainment, that means more of the same.

      More Jersy Shore clones.
      More "housewives of..."
      More fake drama applied to "reality" situations.

      And more fake outrage and opinion force-feeding trying to pass for journalism.
      Bleah
      The last time my cable company increased my rates, I dropped to a smaller package (causing a net reduction in the bottom line on my bill). And I still only watch a couple hours a week max.
      There's just not that much on that can hold my interest enough to sit thru the commercial break(s)

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    15. Re:No he doesn't by Score+Whore · · Score: 2

      MSM is the anglicized name meaning "Mandarin Spaghetti Monster." The non-anglicized, but loosely translated version, is "Flying Lo-Mein Monster" aka FLMM. It's the Chinese aspect of the one true pasta lord.

    16. Re:No he doesn't by tepples · · Score: 2

      Youtube?

      I thought YouTube was for 15-minute (formerly 11-minute) short subjects, like the less than 1-minute "Jesus Christ in Richmond Park", not feature-length films. Once the trailer's on YouTube, where does the feature go? Oh, I get it, one is supposed to start by creating shorts before attempting a feature. And even in that case, how does one recoup costs for a short film distributed on YouTube, which as I understand it is free to watch for anyone with broadband?

      Netflix?

      There appears to be nothing obvious on Netflix's web site about getting an indie film onto the service. This article makes me think it's "don't call us; we'll call you once you've won a film festival."

      Oh, and word-of-mouth still works between me and my friends for music, movies, and what-have-you.

      Word of mouth doesn't help when the film isn't Now Playing In A Theater Near You because a big distributor hasn't picked up the film.

    17. Re:No he doesn't by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      I do. Actors that get $2.2mill per movie are going away. I see a LOT of indie films that are better than hollywood flicks made for far less and the actors not getting paid obscene amounts of money.

      They're already gone. Very few people care about the big stars.

      Check out the cast list sometimes of the big blockbusters. They almost always feature unknown people these days. Maybe one headliner, but that's it. Having a movie with more than one celebrity is getting rarer and rarer. Most sport several unknowns who only become celebrities because of one movie or a wildly popular series (think Transformers which probably raked in close to $3B across all films - the cast was basically all-new actors). And hell, a lot of movies have CG faces replacing the face of whatever actor is there, and it's happening more and more. Expensive actors are pricing themselves out and Hollywood's already saving expense with the vast field of no-names.

      And consumer gear is cheap enough for movie filming - the same gear "the pros" use can be had off the shelf for a few thousand dollars (dSLRs are really popular). Hell, RED's got a $10,000 2K camera coming out soon. And their 4K with "120fps slo-mo" (RED Epic) is only $60k.

      For indies being better - your selection might be the best movies in the lot, but as YouTube shows, there's a ton of crap out there as well. It's just like indie music and indie games - there's a lot of games out there better than the big studios, but there's even more crap. You can see this with the Apple App Store and the Google Marketplace as well - most of the indie stuff is crap, though there are plenty of gems as well.

      The real issue is filtering through the stuff.

  3. Fugal? by Sez+Zero · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fugal should be Frugal and should not link to an advertisement for a Dell laptop coupon.

  4. It's true! by UngodAus · · Score: 2

    Anyone who doesn't believe it, try youtubing from a company other than one of the majors. Moving recently to Germany has highlighted just how little there is that isn't claimed by the big 4. Seriously, 7/10 videos I click through to display "Unfortunately, this -music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights.". In this case, it was UMG. Surprise surprise. On of all things, a Rammstein video. What?!

  5. He's justifying the consolidation, by cmv1087 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    not disputing it. By asserting that profit margins are thin (so the incentive to take risks is lower), that media companies are messy businesses (apparently, he believes organized media output is a myth), and that the corporations listed are so large that controlling all departments is a tall order, he doesn't seem to think the consolidation is anything to worry about. His fact checking is minimal, mostly constrained to making fun of some math gone wrong and telling everyone that his bullshit detector is going off. The infographic itself is pretty neat, but the post criticizing is hardly worth reading, much less linking.

  6. This doesnt surprise anyone, does it? by james_van · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's think about how business works - if there are 10 companies doing a particular thing, at any given time, 1 or more will decide that they want to do more of the particular thing. They will then use leverage/bribery/corporate espionage/collusion/etc to acquire 1 or more of the others. Over time, this will continue until the original 10 are consolidated to the lowest number possible to avoid anti-trust/monopoly actions. And, during all of this time, they will continue to produce whatever thing that the general public will most readily consume. This usually entails things of medium to low quality (high quality is expensive and, in the case of tangible products, has a low replacement rate), dumbed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator and mass marketed with loud, brightly colored advertising. This has been the way of things for many years, this will be the way of things for many years to come. There are a few different models that have managed to squeak by briefly, but theyre rare and often not much better.

  7. turn it off by anonieuweling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You control that TV.
    You can turn it off.
    Online news can be so refreshing.

  8. Misleading title by marcosdumay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The title is misleading, and so is the article. The problem is that (what 90% of people see) is different from (90% of what people see).

    To answer the question (why is it a question? The article states as a fact), yes big media controls 90% of what is actualy distributed as old style media. That is different from saying that it owns 90% of the content, and much nearer to saying that a huge proportion of the people will only see what big media shows them.

    That is still a problem, but a different problem.

  9. Worse in Canada by Droog57 · · Score: 2

    I have no way to get solid numbers, but going by the standard rule of thumb for Canada/USA comparisons (10% of US numbers for Canada), we are in a similar boat on media, except that here there are only three major media corporations, and they also control 90% of Internet access as well. The CRTC (Canadian version of the FCC) has been in bed with these three under the guise of "protecting Canadian content" for over 40 years. And Bell Canada along with Rogers Communications own 90% of the Canadian Cell network and just got together to purchase the most lucrative sports franchise in the world, the Toronto Maple Leafs Hockey Club (worth almost double what the Yankees are worth at 1.3 billion for 75% of the Franchise. So weep not, my American friends, you have it good down there...

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  10. Apologist by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

    Just another corporate apologist trying to convince us that everything is fine and that we should just go on with our lives.

    It is not that these companies are conspiring to make our entertainment crappy just for some lulz. They want to convey a particular message and manipulate the population in a particular way. The major media companies refused to air a commercial that encouraged people not to buy anything for just one day -- even though they were being offered the standard rate for airing commercials. The popular shows are just the cheapest possible way to mold everyone's minds, from preschool through adulthood.

    The conspiracy is this: condition everyone to believe that they should buy as many things as possible, and that the ultimate goal in their lives should be to make enough money to do so. Popular entertainment exists to convey that message, with a few hints about what to buy (MacDonald's, diamonds, cars, video games, etc.).

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  11. This is why by arcite · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I refuse to watch TV channels with commercials.

    1. Re:This is why by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 2

      Which is why I DVR the TV shows I like and watch them later while skipping the commercials. One hour TV shows are like 40 minutes (and getting shorter) now. I would add in commercial skip, but it messes up sometimes. I"ll edit the commercials out for the shows I want to keep.

    2. Re:This is why by TheSpoom · · Score: 2

      Time Warner Cable has begun making it impossible to fast forward through ads on some of their On Demand channels now (the box refuses to fast forward at all on such protected content). Fair warning.

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    3. Re:This is why by TheJediGeek · · Score: 2
      You were making sense until the BS about piracy "robbing the content creators blind." Unless you ONLY get TV content from the internet and/or an OTA antenna, they've got you paying (in a sense) both ways. Cable and satellite services pay the networks to carry their channels. We pay subscription fees AND have to see the advertising. The networks are getting revenue from ad space and from the cable and satellite providers carrying their channels. They are NOT some poor and destitute artists creating these shows on a shoestring budget out of the goodness of their hearts. They're making cash hand over fist. The programming is crap because there's no reason to make anything but crap. If the unwashed masses will put up with it, they'll continue making crap. Some of us may complain about the system, but for every one of us there's thousands that will happily watch Dancing With the Stars with all the commercials and pay Comcast for the privilege.

      Don't try to say that the system is the way it is because they can't afford to change it. The system is the way it is because they're making TONS of money this way and have no financial reason to change it.

    4. Re:This is why by grcumb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      [R]efuse it for long enough, and given the entitled "media should be free" attitude of the last 20 years.. Pretty soon, you should assume there will be no more high quality productions.

      That's just not valid. People have demonstrated time and again that they are willing to pay for content. What they object to is DRM'ed, broken, zone-locked, un-saveable, unusable-on-any-other-device content. So, when the best (or only) alternative is bittorrent, that's what they use. But as soon as reputable players start offering a convenient, easy-to-use service (like Amazon, the App Store or iTunes), they flock to it en masse.

      People hate commercials. People hate DRM. People hate being treated like criminals. People hate anything that stands between them and their enjoyment. But none of those statements mean that people do not ascribe value to the things that entertain them.

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    5. Re:This is why by Omestes · · Score: 2

      Pretty soon, you should assume there will be no more high quality productions. No commercials, and most people completely unwilling to pay for anything because they're somehow entitled to it, and.. You'll have a lot of YouTube reality TV and some random indie projects of mixed quality from people who do it just for the love of it. But all other programming will go away.

      Half in jest: Is that a bad thing? I'm not terribly invested in television though, if it completely disappeared tomorrow I probably wouldn't care too much. No, I'm not putting that forward as a serious suggestion, I just sometimes wonder why it seems so unthinkable to people. The future, in all seriousness, is probably pay-per-view. I would love to be able to just pay a small (sensible) yearly fee for access to a single show. Or even just a "roll your own" solution to cable.

      As it stands I don't watch cable or broadcast television because of the ads. I'll be a year behind and just buy the season on DVD, or wait for it to hit Netflix. I'm sick of ads. I find a scorched earth policy towards them completely reasonable since they have completely corrupted the world. If my refusing to watch ads kills your favorite show, sport (I also gave up on those after the 2001 baseball playoffs, pausing the live, in person, game so the audience at home could watch commercials), or webpage dies because I'd rather not be brainwashed by corporate sponsors... I won't cry.

      Hell, I'd rather not use the internet at all, than use a browser without adblock. Its worth the sacrifice.

      And, for the per-season and roll-your-own solutions, piracy will happen. It's reality. Corporations will just have to live with it, since if they make consuming their content and giving them my money harder than me reading a book or going for a nice walk, they are screwed. Most people don't pirate, some people always will, tough shit. Live with it. I don't care if you get every cent you think your entitled to. So.. My media IS my media. I bought it. I will rent it (Netflix), or I will buy it. That is it. There is no middle ground, since my enjoyment and convenience trumps any corporate profit margin.

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  12. Numbers never lie... But they do mislead. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Simple obvious fact one: The larger company will have a larger market share.
    Simple obvious fact two: The smaller company will have less market share.

    So if some companies are bigger then they will have more Market Share and control then the others.

    So if the top 6 companies (assume they are all equal) own 90% share then each one only has 15% market share. Which is big but no means a monopoly.

    Percentages are a way of summarizing real data. However by grouping and summarizing the summary. And clustering data in a particular way you can prove anything you want.

    Think the 99%ers vs. the 53%ers they both choose different measurements and summarize and group values differently to prove their point.

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  13. Re:turn it off, all of it by Cragen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I could, I would turn it all off. (Being a developer, it's a bit hard.) I got sent overseas 30 years ago for a year. (Pre-Internet! lol) We usually got all non-ridiculous news in 3 - 4 days. So, I kicked my news habit. (There was no English TV either, so I also quite accidentally kicked my TV habit.) So, really, how much does this "news" really affect your life? No much, really. Have a nice day. Cheers!

  14. Quality, not quantity by Stoopiduk · · Score: 2

    It's all very well owning The Sun, the largest newspaper in Europe (or whatever was claimed) but you could fill that whole damned rag with ads and pictures of kittens; as long as you had one story about a football (soccer) scandal and one story about a soap opera, everyone would go about their lives as normal.

    With the internet in its current state, we can rely on educated people to find their own sources of information, check their reliability and make their own conclusions. Yes it would be nice to have the Sun readers thinking for themselves, but it's not about to happen. Let them have their crappy media, as long as they're happy with it. We still have plenty of room to go out and find the information we need. Just because 90% of published media is crap about X Factor doesn't mean I'm spending my 90% of my time reading crap about X Factor, that's for sure.

  15. Trumped-up charges of plagiarism by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, many of us don't like the MSM, and are now getting our news raw and unfiltered.

    Provided they have the time to sit in front of a computer desk. A lot of people have trouble giving up the MSM for video because they don't want to buy another PC for the HDTV or worse yet both buy a PC and replace the SDTV in the living room with an HDTV. Other people have trouble giving up the MSM for music because only smartphones can play Internet radio in the car or on the bus, and they aren't willing to pay for smartphone service.

    I don't care that the MSM controls 90% of the content, because it is the same old crappy content they've always controlled. With the internet, there is a whole new world of content waiting to be discovered.

    Until the MSM starts suing Internet artists on trumped-up charges of plagiarism.

    The 90% of the people can't really appreciate the finer nuanced artistic works, let them have the MSM.

    Are you sure that we'd want that? If 90 percent have the MSM, then 90 percent are letting the MSM tell them for whom to vote and on which issues to choose a candidate. For example, which MSM source has thoroughly covered opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act?

  16. Big Biz is the Default, and We Keep the Default by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's the problem in a nutshell. We have access to information and analysis from gazillions of people, but most of us pay attention only to those who are presented as the default choices. Those who are presented as the default choices inevitably represent the opinions of those who own them.

    This is the herding mentality responsible for financial bubbles -- people follow those who are perceived as successful regardless of the lead cow's intelligence and common sense or lack thereof. (Goldman Sachs. QED.)

    The challenge is to restore diversity in what is heard, not just diversity in what is available to be heard. That, unfortunately, is a distributed problem, and cannot be solved by just adding a few voices.

  17. NEWS by WillgasM · · Score: 2

    the real problem is the news. Almost every news outlet is regurgitating the exact same story handed down from some corporate office. There is no more journalism, because journalists aren't allowed to think for themselves. Their opinions have already been written for them and entered into the teleprompter. If you'd like a laugh, google "conan o'brien push the envelope" and you can watch newscasters from across the country reading the exact same dialogue. Every corporation has an agenda. Be it product placements or rigging elections, those who control the media will use it to their advantage.

  18. Re:But They Control 0%... by masternerdguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually they can. They can have mandatory prescreening of all comments and prevent the first post from being posted.

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  19. Mainstream media, where truth is mere coincidence by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 2

    The only uncontrolled content at the moment can be found on blogs. These will eventually be subverted too, but at the moment, many blogs are not. Zerohedge.com, for all it's sensationalism, does report on real economic events, as does nakedcapitalism.com. Yahoo and MSNBC, of course, are happy-talk propaganda rags designed only to keep consumers/voters distracted from real events and buying stocks and schlock.

    I suggest that anyone who doubts this review these two wiki entries:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_media_ownership
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlocking_directorate

    Bottom line? The same people who own Goldman Sacks and the banks also own the major media outlets, and the messages are tightly controlled. Subtle propaganda is inserted into popular programs (e.g In a recent "House"episode, a man was determined to be mentally ill because he was preparing for social disorder. House calls him an idiot who thinks the world is going to end.) OWS protesters are subtly presented as fools, without ever showing a real discussion. The fact that ousting them from all encampments at the same time required coordination at a national scale is never mentioned. There are endless examples, if you can stop eating cheetos and ignore "Dancing with the stars."

    The only idiots I see are people who believe anything they see on TV or mainstream media news, where truth is merely coincidental.

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  20. There is an effect on coverage by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

    It's only logical that the media outlets will protect their parents' interests. One example, years ago I was watching John McEnroe's defunct news show on CNBC (?) where he interviewed Robert Kennedy, Jr., a big environmentalist. The conversation took an unexpected turn and RKJr dropped a note about GE, NBC's parent corporation and their poor environmental practices. McEnroe shushed him and the show immediately cut to commercial. When they came back from the break, RKJr was nowhere to be seen.

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  21. Re:Liberal media bias, my foot. by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Indeed. Going by the logic of the people who generally put forward the notion that the MSM is liberal, the MSM should actually be wholly conservative. After all, they are owned by profit-making corporations, and therefore should be staunchly for standard conservative platforms: lower taxes, less social welfare, corporate personhood, less regulation, more for the "job-creators", foreign imperialism funded by deficit-spending... but we don't hear that.

    Alternatively, there's the argument that the MSM is not interested in the truth, but just in giving the people what they want. If the MSM is indeed liberal, that means that the majority of Americans are liberal.

    Either way, conservatives are falling over their own logic if they claim the MSM is liberal.

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  22. US propaganda net: Fox-CNN-NPR-ABC-CBS-AP by sgt_doom · · Score: 2
    Five media corporations control the majority of the world's media.

    The fact of the matter is that those six (actually five) corporations which control the majority of the American media are so financially interlocked with the top banks and each other that for all intents and purposes it is really just one monolithic corporation in control.

    Sure, they have their individual and internecine squabbles, but overall everyone tows the line in their psywarfare perpetrated on the rest of us, which was why many of us gave up on the US myth-media long ago (for me, sometime back in the '90s). Turn on Fox, CNN or NPR and you hear the same wannabe stenographers from Murdoch's Wall Street Journal, the trashy NY Times, the same astro-turf outfits erroneously called "think tanks" who give us the future shills to be our Treasury Secretary, etc., etc., etc. and why ANYONE would ever watch the bottom tier propaganda clown acts of ABC and CBS is beyond a sane person's purview.