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Iran Wants To Clone Downed US Drone
PolygamousRanchKid sends this quote from the LA Times:
"The Obama administration has sent a formal diplomatic request asking Iran to return the radar-evading drone aircraft that crashed on a CIA spying mission this month, but U.S. officials say they don't expect Iran will comply. 'We have asked for it back,' Obama said Monday at a news conference in Washington with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki. 'We'll see how the Iranians respond.' His comments marked the first public confirmation that the RQ-170 Sentinel drone now in Iranian hands is a U.S. aircraft, though U.S. officials privately acknowledged that in recent days. Iran has claimed it downed the stealthy surveillance drone, but U.S. officials say it malfunctioned. Capture of the futuristic-looking unmanned spy plane has provided Tehran with a propaganda windfall. The government announced that it planned to clone and mass produce the bat-winged craft for use against its enemies."
Iran has also demanded an apology from the U.S. for the drone flight in its airspace.
The Obama administration has sent a formal diplomatic request asking Iran to return the radar-evading drone aircraft that crashed on a CIA spying mission this month
Getting caught and then asking to return their spying device, lol.
But let's face it, it just ain't happening.
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Iran simply does not have the ability - the technical knowledge and manufacturing ability - to "clone" these aircraft.
More likely is that China and / or Russia have already sent a team to take it apart and learn its secrets.
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Oh, give me a drone where the camels all roam
Where the Sikhs and the Sunnis all pray
Where often is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are dusty all day
Clone, clone of my drone
Where the Sikhs and the Sunnis all pray
Where often is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are dusty all day
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Iran has also demanded an apology from the U.S. for the drone flight in its airspace.
As they should. If I found some stealthy character in my backyard looking in on my wife, an apology is the LEAST I would demand.
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I'm sure their clone will be almost as good as mine, but probably not actually as good.
The important technology in the device is embedded in chips that are the most tamper resistant devices on the planet, they'll be utterly destroyed and unusable for reverse engineering well before they get anywhere near the tech.
The optics I'm sure are impressive, but not so much that they'll get some giant leap.
The encryption keys were worthless before the aircraft hit the ground.
The paint and fuselage material are the most important things on it that they can gather data from that isn't already something they can get their hands on through other channels.
Its just silly for anyone to think they have a snowballs chance in hell of doing anything it it. It would be hard for US to reverse engineer it, let alone Iran.
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When will Iran apologize to humanity? You know, for things like sentencing Salman Rushdie to death?
I used to suffer from insomnia. But Salman Rushdie has helped me achieve a better sleep. Every time I pick up one of his books, I find myself dozing off rapidly...
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Probably the same day the U.S. apologizes for the coup that overthrew democracy in Iran and put the Shah in power in 1953.
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Obviously the next course of action is to air strike the shit out of it so the technology doesn't go into enemy hands.
Hey they asked nice, first.
How absolutely ridiculous of them to ask us to apologize for committing an act of war. Hasn't anybody been paying attention? The US, and only the US, has the right to invade other countries' airspace, kidnap, torture, and murder their citizens, and then accuse those countries of breaking the law. That's how democracy works. Those silly backward Iranians just don't get it. It must be Islam's fault.
Ummm... if they clone an American drone, won't it still answer to our siren call? Cool, that would make Iran a subcontractor for the U.S. military!
O give me a clone, of the downed US drone, with the Y chromosome changed to X.......
(it was funny in the 80's)
It boggles my mind that this thing didn't self-destruct for exactly this reason.
China will clone it for Iran and start selling copies for one tenth of the price we spend on them in the states. DEY TUK R JERBS!
It's possible that we deliberately downed a drone over Iran with a modern appearance but made with the wrong materials, and with old sensors and electronics generally — or maybe with electronics deeply flawed in a subtle way — with the intent of having Russia and China get their hands on it and then underestimate our capabilities. It's possible, that is, that this is actually an intelligence coup of the highest order.
Knowing our government from inside experience, though, I'm voting for the assclown theory as the survivor of Occam's razor.
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No it is more like having a camera suspended OVER your neighbor house, then the enighbors downit with a stone throw, and then asking it back, while playing innocent and offering a lot of denial of anything wrong.
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i keep hoping this is some elaborate super secret spy ruse but the more I watch the incompetence the more I realize its just incompetence.
Considering that the crown of their air force is a copy of a plane the US developed in 1961 I doubt that they can clone the most advanced drone we have.
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Everyone knows that Iran will not return the drone, and they're in that right. The US politicians will just use this as an excuse to escalate things and drive us closer to another unwanted war.
IANAL, but according to the precedent set by Keepers Vs. Weepers, I think the US will have a very hard time convincing the courts for the immediate return of their supposed property unless they can get their mommy and daddy involved.
Oh, this was in Iran? Well, we know where this is going. The US will just go over to Iran's house and shoot his parents in the face.
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They would be, but they also drafted the Sacking Protocol.
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You know, for things like sentencing Salman Rushdie to death?
Or like stealing the last election to prop up the Revolutionary Guard's puppet and when the people don't like it, beating the hell out of them, killing them and/or imprisoning them, even going so far as to not return bodies of the dead to their families but burying them in graves in restricted areas, where families can't visit. Cuz, you know, they RG runs Iran, not the Mullahs or Ayathollah, which are allowed to go about their business, pretending there's some actual republic when it's really all a sham and military coup by feat.
What I'd like to know is why these drones don't even have a Self Destruct on a dead-man switch, out of contact for so long and sensitive bits are fused by a burning strip of Sodium or such.
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They can try to clone it, but maaan, imagine the IP that must be crammed into that thing!
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No, china produces them, not creating them.
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Oh, then by all means, go edit history. The edit button is right at the top. Good luck.
But the reason that we can trust the CIA in this matter is because it's declassified internal document logging the blackops that the CIA performed. This is their dirty laundry that they wouldn't want anyone to see.
Surely I don't have to be a fan of Iran to point out the idiocy of this statement? Iran is technologically one of the most advanced states in the region, probably only second to Israel.
Oh they're a Gulf state; they must be camel-riding barbarians who only know how to sell oil. I'm going to say it right out: this is not mere ignorance, it's outright bigotry.
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The government announced that it planned to clone and mass produce the bat-winged craft for use against its enemies.
Good luck with that. Unless you have some magical way to reverse-engineer likely 100,000+ lines of compiled source code, you'll never have more than a remote-controlled airplane with a fancy skin.
And I really expect that the software is encrypted (or possibly even destroyed). Also, with the expected levels of anti-temper built into the hardware (required by the US Government since the start of this decade), they'll have a helluva time speccing-out the hardware interfaces using test tools.
Good luck writing your own software from scratch with no idea how the hardware works!
Now, if they had performed a cyber-attack and stolen source code and hardware specs, THEN I would be concerned. The plane part is relatively easy to build.
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Did they post it on their digital embassy's blog? :P
If you think that coup is utterly unrelated to the subsequent history of Iran and U.S./Iranian relations you're either a complete idiot or willfully deluded. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.
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You're obviously confusing Iran with the rest of the middle east. I don't know if it's sad or hilarious how ignorant you are. You might want to read this wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran They not only invented Windmills, Algebra, Alcohol and many more, they are also very prominent today in modern science and are currently having a huge boom in Scientific research. When you never get much more than a score of "1" here on /. on all of your comments, do you not realize this might not be the place you belong? At least try not to bring any 'input' in the future please, you have nothing of interest to bring to the table.
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How do you know the people in Iran aren't "supposed" to download the software, and in so doing propagate another worm?
Link to the referenced story:
http://gizmodo.com/5658661/fbi-gets-caught-tracking-mans-car-wants-its-gps-device-back
There's no satellite-controlled self-destruct mechanism? (Return it or we push the button!)