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Iran Wants To Clone Downed US Drone
PolygamousRanchKid sends this quote from the LA Times:
"The Obama administration has sent a formal diplomatic request asking Iran to return the radar-evading drone aircraft that crashed on a CIA spying mission this month, but U.S. officials say they don't expect Iran will comply. 'We have asked for it back,' Obama said Monday at a news conference in Washington with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki. 'We'll see how the Iranians respond.' His comments marked the first public confirmation that the RQ-170 Sentinel drone now in Iranian hands is a U.S. aircraft, though U.S. officials privately acknowledged that in recent days. Iran has claimed it downed the stealthy surveillance drone, but U.S. officials say it malfunctioned. Capture of the futuristic-looking unmanned spy plane has provided Tehran with a propaganda windfall. The government announced that it planned to clone and mass produce the bat-winged craft for use against its enemies."
Iran has also demanded an apology from the U.S. for the drone flight in its airspace.
The Obama administration has sent a formal diplomatic request asking Iran to return the radar-evading drone aircraft that crashed on a CIA spying mission this month
Getting caught and then asking to return their spying device, lol.
But let's face it, it just ain't happening.
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Oh, give me a drone where the camels all roam
Where the Sikhs and the Sunnis all pray
Where often is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are dusty all day
Clone, clone of my drone
Where the Sikhs and the Sunnis all pray
Where often is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are dusty all day
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It doesn't have any DNA!
Iran has also demanded an apology from the U.S. for the drone flight in its airspace.
As they should. If I found some stealthy character in my backyard looking in on my wife, an apology is the LEAST I would demand.
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I'm sure their clone will be almost as good as mine, but probably not actually as good.
The important technology in the device is embedded in chips that are the most tamper resistant devices on the planet, they'll be utterly destroyed and unusable for reverse engineering well before they get anywhere near the tech.
The optics I'm sure are impressive, but not so much that they'll get some giant leap.
The encryption keys were worthless before the aircraft hit the ground.
The paint and fuselage material are the most important things on it that they can gather data from that isn't already something they can get their hands on through other channels.
Its just silly for anyone to think they have a snowballs chance in hell of doing anything it it. It would be hard for US to reverse engineer it, let alone Iran.
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Probably the same day the U.S. apologizes for the coup that overthrew democracy in Iran and put the Shah in power in 1953.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Obviously the next course of action is to air strike the shit out of it so the technology doesn't go into enemy hands.
Hey they asked nice, first.
How absolutely ridiculous of them to ask us to apologize for committing an act of war. Hasn't anybody been paying attention? The US, and only the US, has the right to invade other countries' airspace, kidnap, torture, and murder their citizens, and then accuse those countries of breaking the law. That's how democracy works. Those silly backward Iranians just don't get it. It must be Islam's fault.
Ummm... if they clone an American drone, won't it still answer to our siren call? Cool, that would make Iran a subcontractor for the U.S. military!
O give me a clone, of the downed US drone, with the Y chromosome changed to X.......
(it was funny in the 80's)
It boggles my mind that this thing didn't self-destruct for exactly this reason.
It's possible that we deliberately downed a drone over Iran with a modern appearance but made with the wrong materials, and with old sensors and electronics generally — or maybe with electronics deeply flawed in a subtle way — with the intent of having Russia and China get their hands on it and then underestimate our capabilities. It's possible, that is, that this is actually an intelligence coup of the highest order.
Knowing our government from inside experience, though, I'm voting for the assclown theory as the survivor of Occam's razor.
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Aviation Week postulates that these elements suggest the designers have avoided 'highly sensitive technologies' due to the near certainty of eventual operational loss inherent with a single engine design and a desire to avoid the risk of compromising leading edge technology.
(quote was from well before this loss, BTW). Most of the tech Iran doesn't have is likely to be in the electronics, and those are not easy to reverse engineer (things like the AESA radar system). China and Russia already have most of those. They might wanna take a look just for any new ideas or design differences, but it's not like these things are F-22s or anything.
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i keep hoping this is some elaborate super secret spy ruse but the more I watch the incompetence the more I realize its just incompetence.
Everyone knows that Iran will not return the drone, and they're in that right. The US politicians will just use this as an excuse to escalate things and drive us closer to another unwanted war.
IANAL, but according to the precedent set by Keepers Vs. Weepers, I think the US will have a very hard time convincing the courts for the immediate return of their supposed property unless they can get their mommy and daddy involved.
Oh, this was in Iran? Well, we know where this is going. The US will just go over to Iran's house and shoot his parents in the face.
"Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
You know, for things like sentencing Salman Rushdie to death?
Or like stealing the last election to prop up the Revolutionary Guard's puppet and when the people don't like it, beating the hell out of them, killing them and/or imprisoning them, even going so far as to not return bodies of the dead to their families but burying them in graves in restricted areas, where families can't visit. Cuz, you know, they RG runs Iran, not the Mullahs or Ayathollah, which are allowed to go about their business, pretending there's some actual republic when it's really all a sham and military coup by feat.
What I'd like to know is why these drones don't even have a Self Destruct on a dead-man switch, out of contact for so long and sensitive bits are fused by a burning strip of Sodium or such.
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Your post denotes a big ignorance about Iran's manufacturing base. Those guys make their own cars, reverse engineered the F-14 and the Cobra during a war with Iraq and I have seen their technology up-close. They might not be a powerhouse but they are not some crappy middle east country either. Their drone production is actually better than China and Russia. Look up for the Ababil, Mohajer and others so you get a picture of how old their programs are and how advanced they are compared to China and Russia.
Biden: Well, now, uh, Obama, Panetta, and I, wait until nightfall, and then leap out of the drone, taking the Iranians by surprise
Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
Oh, then by all means, go edit history. The edit button is right at the top. Good luck.
But the reason that we can trust the CIA in this matter is because it's declassified internal document logging the blackops that the CIA performed. This is their dirty laundry that they wouldn't want anyone to see.
Surely I don't have to be a fan of Iran to point out the idiocy of this statement? Iran is technologically one of the most advanced states in the region, probably only second to Israel.
Oh they're a Gulf state; they must be camel-riding barbarians who only know how to sell oil. I'm going to say it right out: this is not mere ignorance, it's outright bigotry.
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"I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
I'm a computer programmer, and yet I have to buy my furniture from a store. But wait, how is it possible that I could have the technological capacity to produce software when I have to rely on others for something as rudimentary as furniture? It's almost as if some skills and technical abilities were completely independent of others, and you could be very good at one while remaining completely ignorant of others...
I'm an American, and I know that Iran only recently was able to reverse-engineer the F-5 (early 60's tech) and still hasn't been able to do the same for the F-14 (mid 70's tech.) If they can't reverse-engineer a fighter that they've had for thirty years, and is based on decades-old US technology, what makes you think they can reverse-engineer current US tech in a reasonable amount of time?
There's quite a distance between "they're all primitive camel-riders" and "they're a technological power to rival the United States."
How do you know the people in Iran aren't "supposed" to download the software, and in so doing propagate another worm?
Link to the referenced story:
http://gizmodo.com/5658661/fbi-gets-caught-tracking-mans-car-wants-its-gps-device-back