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Picture Blocking Beer Cooler Keeps Your Face Out of Embarrassing Photos

cylonlover writes "It may sound like something dreamed up by a cheesy men's magazine as a joke, but apparently this is a real thing that actually exists. Ostensibly, the Norte Photoblocker is a functional beer cooler surrounded by four sensors that can detect the flashes from cameras or cell phones. If a flash goes off in the direction of the Photoblocker, it fires its own flash to flood the resulting photos with bright white and obscure anyone nearby. Now you can go about your usual business of cheating on your spouse, being an idiot around your boss, or drunkenly harassing fellow party-goers without worrying that some wildly irresponsible person will tag you in a photo and posts it online."

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  1. Absolutely flawless by igreaterthanu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because there is no way to take a photo without a flash.

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    1. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

    2. Re:Absolutely flawless by icebike · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not always.
      Some modern cell phones have fantastic low light capability simply because they know that LED Camera flashes are so weak.

      But you can counter the good low light cameras with an LED hat: http://hacknmod.com/hack/blind-cameras-with-an-infrared-led-hat/

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    3. Re:Absolutely flawless by rev0lt · · Score: 2

      I've done concert photography with an f/3.5 lens and 1600 ISO without much issue. Many modern compact cameras also shoot in the infrared range, so you can actually see people without any visible light. Sony even advertised this feature in some models.

    4. Re:Absolutely flawless by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess video cameras don't exist either.

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    5. Re:Absolutely flawless by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      I hate flash photography. Not as much for the blinding flash, but it flattens an image. The people nearby are brightly lit (sometimes too bright), the background is black or near so. The whole atmosphere is gone. Most parties (as on the videos shown in TFA) use coloured lights and so: that is all gone as soon as you flash. Photos taken without flash (albeit much harder to do without having them blurred) usually look so much better.

      That said: I'd love to see actual real-life results of this beer cooler in action. Not the shots from the videos (which are part of advertising so likely exaggerate), but just some snapshots that are affected by this cooler. I'm interested to see how well it works (or not).

    6. Re:Absolutely flawless by mysidia · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking.... put a polarizing filter on the camera, and a cover/filter on its flash. Use a flash of a specific wavelength and filter everything else out from reaching your camera.

    7. Re:Absolutely flawless by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Your money was well-spent, sonny. She's been cheating on you."

      "I suspected as much, that's why I hired a private dick. But it's proof I need."

      "You're not gonna like it..."

      "I can take it. I have to know, for sure."

      PD slides an envelope across the table. Man opens it. He stares, aghast.

      "Oh my god."

      "I'm sorry, sonny. Been workin' this line of business twenty years, but I never get used to the look of guy's faces. Some guys, they don't really want to know. They want to hold on to a forlorn hope that maybe, just maybe, the dame really was visiting her sister, see?"

      "YOU BASTARD! HOW COULD YOU?"

      "Look, I'm not proud of what I do. But you hired me, sonny. If you didn't want to know, y-"

      "You used a flash! Where's the artistry? It's so unnatural. Her form intermingled with my soon-to-be-dead friend's.. look at their bodies. There's no depth. The lighting, good god man, the lighting! I'm supposed to believe this was a romantic interlude? They're like lifeless puppets!"

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    8. Re:Absolutely flawless by JonySuede · · Score: 3, Funny

      yay, black and white pics !

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  2. Product Synergy by Kuipo · · Score: 5, Funny

    This will go great with my strobe light at my next party!

  3. I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by bryan1945 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you're an adult, no problem going to a bar/party. Just don't strip to your undies and and poor beer on yourself. If you're married, don't go out to public places with the prostitute/mistress. Don't throw wild keggers in your backyard. If you're going to go through this much trouble not to have your picture taken, you may want to 1) rethink your priorities, or 2) do such things in relative privacy with people you trust.

    If you're still young, go be an idiot. That's what college is for, generally.

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    1. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, but let's be realistic. There's a lot of things we might do in jest among friends that could be detrimental in the future. People snapping pictures surreptitiously at parties or "spy shots" should be kicked out, like what happened to Phelps.

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    2. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Mousit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't have to be an idiot for a picture to be a problem. After all, there was the somewhat recent case (even featured here on Slashdot, sorry I'm too lazy to dig up links) of the kindergarten teacher that was fired over a photo of her at a party, drinking from a cup that allegedly contained alcohol (gasp). She was of course legal, and was doing nothing unusual, merely smiling and drinking, but it was deemed "inappropriate" for her position, whatever the fuck that means.

      There's a plethora of such cases. Or the numerous stories (again, featured on Slashdot too) of companies that troll social networking sites (or employ third parties to do so for them) to look up info on applicants and potential hires. Simply being at a party, drinking, is often frowned upon as the companies have outright stated when interviewed on this subject. There's also the issue of not everyone in your social circle may respect your wishes about no pictures (yes, I think that makes them jackasses), and this is especially true of parties where attendants may not all be your personal friends. Friends of friends, acquaintances, the types that are even more especially likely to not know and/or respect your picture wishes.

      All of this, of course, are symptoms of a much larger blight on our society, but nonetheless, the point still stands: a picture of you drinking at a party does not necessarily have to show you being an idiot, to affect your life. Especially your professional life.

    3. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by bryan1945 · · Score: 2

      ^^
      True those. I didn't feel like breaking down everything; I'd be here all night.

      The professional angle is one that is at least, interesting. I've had top level bosses that would get blotted at every company party, and it was officially called "being a character." At the time I was entry level, so I just drank soda, just in case. Some others didn't, and the following week rumors of the boss(es) being displeased were circulating. For things like "Bob had 3(!!!) beers."

      And that was for people at the same party. With a picture, you can say whatever you want. As far as I know I have 3 pictures on the internet- one of me with the Lego sea dragon at Disney, one a Christmas family pic, and one with my goddaughter and her godmother. Maybe I'm a dungeon and dragons fanatic!

      In conclusion to this ramble, yep, just an innocent pic can bury you if the wrong person sees it. Used to be "if it's not illegal nor hurting anyone, it's cool." Now- "You WILL conform to what I believe is right." Yes, a blight and sad.

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    4. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

      I think we're eventually going to have to come to terms with the fact that we've done stupid things in our lifetime. If you don't hire anyone who has a stupid picture of themselves on facebook, then the employee pool is going to be too small for you.

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    5. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      . Simply being at a party, drinking, is often frowned upon as the companies have outright stated when interviewed on this subject.

      Personally I'm glad that these companies do this filtering, because it saves me the potential trouble of going to work for them, finding out they've got a stick up their corporate asses, and then having to look for another job and quit. However I understand other people might be in more need of a job, so I fully support finding anyone who hires and fires based on such things and photographing them in compromising positions.

  4. I want this for my car by Joe+U · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can I get this for my license plates?

    1. Re:I want this for my car by clyde_cadiddlehopper · · Score: 2

      I've been wondering about illuminating my license plate with inexpensive infrared LEDs at each corner. They won't help during daylight hours, but IR-sensitive night cameras should be rendered useless. Great holiday gift for those with foil hats and hate the thought of automated license plate scanners that are being used to troll traffic for black hats.

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  5. If there are two of them in the room, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    would the first stray flash trigger a duel to the death?

  6. Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

    Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

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    1. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by samkass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nikon super-ISO modes are pretty awesome. But I still gotta give props to Canon for always having a $99 F/1.8 55mm lens available for any camera they make. The difference between your typical F/3.5 zoom versus an F/1.8 prime is like night and day (no pun intended). Too many people overspend on the body and underspend on the lens.

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    2. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Awesome, now we just need every 15 year old girl to pull $5k worth of camera equipment from her purse to take a semi blurry snap that ends up on facebook.

      Let's face it. YOU are not a typical photographer.

      Also lets face it if you used an 85mm f/1.4 in any semi decent bar on a friday night there'll be about 20 teenagers filling in the gap between you and the subject you're trying to photograph :-P

    3. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That isn't his point. The point is that people here know enough about technical options, whereas Joe Six Pack only knows how to do it with a flash, making the special cooler useful for most situations.

    4. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The same reason that nerds use high dollar computers to visit every trashy site on the web? A guy who has good tools, no matter what trade, hobby, or profession he might be in, isn't going to keep a "backup" set of cheap tools around for those "less important" jobs. A real pro might have a workshop filled with ultra-expensive tools of his trade, but even his carry away bag of tools is going to be filled with quality items.

      Whatever your profession is, look at your own carry away "toolbox". Did you buy a bunch of junk from WalMart to fill it?

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    5. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by JonySuede · · Score: 4, Insightful

      s100 for fun... D700 for WOW... it be moronic and socially clueless to bring a DSLR to a night club...

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    6. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by neyla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It doesn't, offcourse.

      It probably works reasonably well *if* the photo is a flash-photo, and taken from precisely such a direction that the beer-cooler is directly between your face and the camera.

      This might be the case for some fraction of embarassing photos, but certainly not 95%.

    7. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As a developer I used to keep an old computer around specifically for a VC5 project I had to maintain; didn't want to polute my main machine with old the VC5.
      Nowadays you just use a VM for this. I also tend to keep old software tools around even though I'm no longer using them for new projects.

      I also do photography as a hobby and have some expensive equipment, on a normal day I carry around a mobile phone with a good camera (phone was chosen mainly based on camera quality). As I understand it, most professional photographers also keep good P&S cameras around and some of the most famous photo's in the world are shot on the cheapest camera's of the time.

      Carpenters usually keep a cheap set of screwdrivers around as "multitools". They use the good screwdrivers to drive in screws and the cheap ones to poke, hammer, pry open, scratch and generally do things that will likely ruin the tool. There are more appropriate tools for each of these jobs, but a single disposable tool is a lot easier to carry around.

      The highest quality tool might be the best tool but it isn't necessarily the most appropriate tool for every situation..

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    8. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by nahdude812 · · Score: 2

      in any semi decent bar on a friday night there'll be about 20 teenagers filling

      Not in the US! It'd be a mix of bar flies, trannies, and hot coeds drinking for free by using the power of suggestion on lonely guys looking to score. But not teenagers, no sir chief!

    9. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by gfxguy · · Score: 2

      Now who's being naive?

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  7. Re:About time someone invented by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting
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  8. Re:So what if there's more than one in one place? by rev0lt · · Score: 3, Informative

    It won't work that way. Assuming the device is made as any other professional flash, the speed of the operation will be too fast and the bightness spike duration will be too short to have a cascading effect. I've worked with professional studio flashes, and this behavior don't happen.

  9. Re:concert photos by rev0lt · · Score: 4, Informative

    My wife is a professional photographer and consultant, I sometimes use her equipment to take some shots. But I can give you some hints based on what I know:

    You will need a DSLR camera. Sometimes you can take good shots with a compact camera, sometimes you can't. Professional-looking equipment is also part of the show, so people will bother you less if you look like a professional.
    You usually won't be able to make good close-ups from far away without a tripod (and you probably won't get inside with a tripod), so you'll need to be close to the stage. Work with your camera in manual mode or speed priority, use a lens with a good aperture (be aware that below f/1.8 many not-so outrageusly expensive lenses may suffer from severe chromatic aberrations), use a sensible ISO value for the lens aperture and the kind of venue, and be aware that you probably won't take good pictures using the camera on your hands with speeds below 1/20s. If many variables confuse you, you may try a fixed aperture lens - you can probably find something like f1.8/50mm cheap, that will allow you to do good close-ups. As I said, I've used a common 18-55mm/3.5-5.6 with good results, but with a f/1.8 lens you'll be able to take dark photos and capture all the essence of the moment.

    Some (good) photographers use speelites (those flashes you put on top of your camera) for floodfilling. You point your flash to the ceiling, and on a minimal setting, so it will "light up" the scene or the background without causing too much damage. Many use filters to scatter the flashlight and/or a small reflector to minimize impact on the public. Some (bad) photographers just think they need it, and spend all the time they have ruining other people's photos with light contamination.
    One final note regarding equipment - live concerts are terrible for cameras, be aware that you may have to send your machine and lenses to be cleaned every year or so. The cigarrete smoke and from special effects machines will slowly make your machine dirty.

    Now the good stuff - how to get in & get away with it: Get a professional-looking DSLR! If it is a local venue, you can contact the organization previously and ask for permission to take pictures, They usually allow it if you give them a copy of the resulting pictures. Many times you can score a free ticket if you already have portfolio. If the organization doesn't respond you, sometimes contacting the band directly works, but don't expect a free ticket. If nothing works, park near the venue and try to go in with the camera, they probably won't stop you if you look like a "photographer".
    With smaller bands, they won't care if your photographing or not, specially if not using a flash at all. In bigger venues, expect to have a limited time to take pictures (usually the 2 first songs). I've actually seen concerts where the band stopped the concert until everyone stopped flashing their eyes.
    Authorization from the organizers usually will allow you to go to the "special zone" between the stage and the public, but not much more. Every other situation may or may not give you access to that, so ask politely to whoever is doing security there.

    Don't take my experience as a gospel (I'm from an european country, it may be different where you live), specially because my experience is mainly extreme metal concerts. Last advice - the mosh pit isn't the place to carry expensive equipment, so be careful if you cross it.

  10. Alternate uses may pop up by CaptBubba · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A pretty good marketing stunt, but I'm sure other uses can be found for this in areas where photos are not desired for privacy reasons.

    One that I can think of right away would be at abortion clinics. Many protestors will try to take photographs of the people entering the clinics and then post them online to try and shame them. I'd love to see this sort of tech spoil their day.

  11. Re:About time someone invented by artor3 · · Score: 2

    This is a pretty risky idea, FYI. If the cops can get even a partial plate number, combined with the make and model of your car, they can most likely track you down, and will have additional incentive to do so when they see the bright IR flash in the photo. You're better off just not speeding/running red lights. If you go a bit over the limit, or accidentally run a light by mistiming the yellow, then you probably won't get a ticket. The systems are not fully automated - they get screened and marginal cases are thrown out because they don't want to bother with a case that might actually go to court (can't make money on those!). Having plate obscuring systems is just going to draw unwanted attention to your car.

  12. Erotica show in London by Geeky · · Score: 2

    I go to Erotica in London every year (if you don't know what it is, google it - it's held at Olympia every November).

    In previous years, photography has been banned outright. You were even supposed to leave cameras with security if you had them on you when you arrived.

    This year, the terms and conditions allowed for photography as long as it was with the consent of the subject. I guess they realised they were fighting a tide and couldn't police all the camera phones so just gave in to the inevitable.

    Lots of people dress up (or down!) for it, though, and some give free rein to their "thing" - you see people in slave gear, cross dressers and so on. Despite the rules, people were taking surreptitious snaps which no doubt would end up online. OK, the subjects won't be tagged, but who's to say that they won't be spotted?

    While I firmly believe noone should care what you do in your private life, a genuine picture blocker would be useful in the sad world in which we live.

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  13. Takedown ? by redelm · · Score: 2

    While the photog owns copyright in asny pictures taken, the subjects of the photo also have rights. Why else do newsies get signed releases?

    Once you discover a undesireable photo, why not send a DMCA takedown notice to the offending site (Facebook?)