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Music Player Amarok 2.5 Released

jrepin writes with this quote from an article at The H: "The Amarok development team has released version 2.5 of its open source music player and organizer, code-named 'Earth Moving.' Among the changes highlighted by the developers are re-written support for USB mass storage devices, GPodder.net podcast synchronization and an integrated Amazon MP3 store. The GPodder.net support includes the ability to browse directly from Amarok through the list of recommended podcasts on GPodder.net. Users of playlists on Amarok will find the new playlist functionality in 2.5 such as the ability to use formatted strings in Playlist layout items as prefixes and suffixes, dragging and dropping tracks in an empty area in the list of playlists to create a new playlist, and, in that same empty area, the addition of a new 'create new playlist' action."

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  1. Amarok 1.4.6 For life by PenquinCoder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Amarok 2.0 came out and I ditched it. Up until then, it had been for me the best music player I've ever used. The redesign really screwed it up.

    1. Re:Amarok 1.4.6 For life by countertrolling · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah but... now you can buy things on the internets. This will put Linux on the desktop for sure...

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    2. Re:Amarok 1.4.6 For life by darcling · · Score: 2

      Yep... I'm still on 1.4.10 and I go out of my way to keep it that way. This is the best music player I've ever seen... it's simply amazing. v2.0 crushed my spirit and made me backtrack.

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    3. Re:Amarok 1.4.6 For life by pwizard2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Try Clementine. It's a bit rough around the edges but it looks like the old Amarok 1.4.

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    4. Re:Amarok 1.4.6 For life by unrtst · · Score: 2

      I've happily moved to Clementine, which "is inspired by Amarok 1.4". Wikipedia says it's a port of Amarok 1.4 to the Qt 4 framework and GStreamer framework. To me, it seems like the way Amarok *should* have gone.

    5. Re:Amarok 1.4.6 For life by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      you know, that feature in itunes is probably the thing I hate least about itunes. Having my music player figure out what I like to listen to, and then offering it to me right now for $0.99 is something I rather like.

    6. Re:Amarok 1.4.6 For life by Simon80 · · Score: 5, Informative

      In case you didn't follow the rest of the thread, I wanted to let you know that you should try Clementine. It's basically Amarok 1.4 ported to Qt, although they're still catching up on some less essential features.

  2. Sticking with Clementine by Meat+Boy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I really loved using Amarok back in the day, before the big UI revamp in the 2.x releases... this unfortunately seems like it hasn't evolved yet into something I'd like to use. I hope that it will find a lot of happy users, as the team is very dedicated, but I'll be sticking with Clementine over here. It's an Amarok 1.4 fork that's been the product of a lot of time, effort and love, and I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a quality library-based player. Still cross-platform, too! Check it out: http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/

    1. Re:Sticking with Clementine by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 2

      I'll always remember Amarok for not playing certain files because of "back end" problems or whatever the bullshit reason it gave, then not installing the proper codecs and failing upon prompt.

      Then I started using VLC and everything Just Played(TM). Ever since then, I haven't had a reason to use anything else.

    2. Re:Sticking with Clementine by allcar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Progress is not a smooth curve. You have to take some risks, or else everything stagnates. Don't be such a luddite.

  3. Dynamic playlists? by Trogre · · Score: 2

    Have they put dynamic playlists back yet?

    I still hold onto the hope that perhaps one day, Amarok 2.x might have the feature set that Amarok 1.4 had.
    And chew up the same amount of memory or less.
    But maybe crash less often.

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    1. Re:Dynamic playlists? by Talavis · · Score: 5, Informative

      Don't know when it was added to 2.x, but I'ts been working well since at least 2.3, when I started using it.

      Also I don't understand what people are complaining about; in my opinion the 2.x versions work much better than the 1.4 ones ever did (including having enough functionality).

  4. just to be a wearisome twit... by smoothnorman · · Score: 3, Interesting
    could someone post the result of running

    grep -ir "amazon" * | wc -l

    in the amarok 2.5 source tree?

    1. Re:just to be a wearisome twit... by mhogomchungu · · Score: 4, Informative

      [ink@mtz amarok-2.5.0]$ grep -ir "amazon" * | wc -l
      4661
      [ink@mtz amarok-2.5.0]$

  5. Playlist Editing by blackpaw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I found the description a bit confusing but it *sounds* like they have improved the playlist creation and editing - that was what pushed me away fro Amarok 2.x, creating and editing a playlist was incredibly awkward involving multiple swicthes between various panes. Not to mention very buggy. The bugs were mostly fixed, but the actual process remained a usability nightmare.

    Will check it again once it reaches the kubuntu repos.

  6. Re:I still use old XMMS that is like Winamp. by smoothnorman · · Score: 3, Interesting
    no indeed. http://xmms2.org/wiki/Main_Page and/or

    git clone git://git.xmms.se/xmms2/xmms2-devel.git

    compiles easily. and it's only heard not seen. it does exactly what a music player ought to do and no more.

    blessings upon the maintainers.

  7. Earth Moving by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That was a terrible album.

  8. Re:I still use old XMMS that is like Winamp. by smoothnorman · · Score: 2
  9. Re:I still use old XMMS that is like Winamp. by Haiyadragon · · Score: 2
  10. Re:WINAMP! by icebike · · Score: 2

    I agree, simple is better.

    Why should a music player take full screen, or waste precious screen real estate replicating what the built in file manager already provides? All of them seem to be in an arms race with itunes to have te most complex and least well behaved interface. I just want to listen, I don't ned to know every fact about the music, the album cover, or even who played drums. Its music people. Not a spreadsheet or a rocket launch. Just listen. Stop making it complex. Just listen.

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  11. Re:WINAMP! by PwnzerDragoon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Have you tried foobar2000? It's simple and minimal like Winamp used to be, but still extensible with plugins if you need functionality not built-in.

  12. Re:I still use old XMMS that is like Winamp. by bucaneer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Try gmusicbrowser. It's the best foobar2000 equivalent for Linux, and its handling of huge libraries is the best I've seen. Very customizable too, it works just as well in minimalistic modes as it does in fullscreen layouts.

  13. Local Metadata King by domatic · · Score: 2

    The big deal breaker with Amarok 2 for me is local metadata handling. I have tagged all of my files with (correct) artwork and (correct) lyrics. With a couple of extensions, Amarok 1.4 would use the local metadata and only use an online source for that information if the file didn't have it in the tags. The last few times I tried Amarok 2, it still insisted on searching online for things I specifically put in the tag.

    The sin isn't unique to Amarok. I've only found Songbird/Nightgale (with some extensions) and Guayadeque do the correct thing in this regard.

    It's called a USLT tag. That should be parsed before searching some lyrics site. Look for embedded artwork before searching Amazon. Libraries exist for all this. It shouldn't be super hard to implement such basic functionality but almost no players do.

  14. But can it play CDs? by pyrr · · Score: 2

    I might give it a try, I liked 1.4...the 2.* versions have sucked powerfully. A music player that can't play CDs? Seriously?

    I really hate to criticize things people are making for the common good, but Amarok is pretty bad. It's super-bloated, but with basic functionality lacking or broken. It seems that as versions advance, more and more is broken. The interface becomes more and more cluttered and less and less usable, and the display elements that they ostensibly changed the whole thing over so they'd work in KDE 4 have been perpetually screwed-up too. The most used part of a media player, the controls, almost seem like an afterthought.

    Sometimes, the time comes in a product's development cycle where maybe the folks working on it should just realize it took a very wrong turn and scrap it.