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Go Daddy Loses Over 21,000 Domains In One Day

First time accepted submitter expo53d writes "CNET reports that yesterday 21,054 domains were pulled off Domaincontrol.com, a subsidiary of GoDaddy. While this maybe a coincidence, it is likely to be caused by GoDaddy's controversial support for SOPA. It seems that GoDaddy's attempts at remedying the problem were of no use."

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  1. so uh why they'd support it? by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    a banned domain = customer has to buy another?

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    1. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Stradenko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Government regulation of an industry increases the cost of entry for new competition. Established business will support something that gives them that kind of edge.

    2. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Baloroth · · Score: 5, Informative

      GoDaddy got the seized domains from the last round of ICE seizures. I'll let you connect the dots.

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    3. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Informative

      GoDaddy helped write the legislation such that they are exempt from it.

      Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), the only member of Congress present at the hearing with any tech experience, having founded several web companies, introduced two amendments: one to exclude universities and non-profits from being subject do having to shut down their own domain servers if accused of piracy under SOPA, and the other to exempt dynamic IP addresses, such as those found on web-enabled printers. Both were voted down.

      Polis pointed out that SOPA and Smith’s amendment already excluded certain operators of sub-domains, such as GoDaddy.com, from being subject to shutdowns under SOPA.

      “If companies like GoDaddy.com are exempt, why aren’t non-commercial domain servers exempt?” Polis asked.

    4. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      follow the money.

      isn't it always the way to understanding things, today?

      I also suspect that they stand to make money from government, in some undisclosed ways. just a hunch, but anyone who cozies up to a gov deal is on the take.

      things that look like ducks *are* ducks.

      now that they've shown their colors, hopefully people will stay away from their business. ...almost like, well, an invisible hand (lol)

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    5. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Skidborg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Someone needs to go and burn down the Capital building already.

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    6. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by BlueStrat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Someone needs to go and burn down the Capital building already.

      I've been puzzled from the beginning as to why the OWS protesters aren't in front of the Capitol and the White House. They're the ones ultimately responsible for Wall Street corruption, because it necessarily requires a corrupt government in order to exist and grow.

      For corruption to flourish in the private sector requires a corrupt government, for only with a corrupt government can the corrupt businesses and individuals be protected from the People and Justice.

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    7. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by 517714 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      follow the money. isn't it always the way to understanding things, today?

      For corporations, yes. For politicians, Yes. For religions, YES! Not necessarily for all individuals.

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    8. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by 517714 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bin Laden was trying to hurt the US.

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    9. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They're the ones ultimately responsible for Wall Street corruption, because it necessarily requires a corrupt government in order to exist and grow.

      That's kind of dumb. Do you think government is corrupting Wall Street, or is Wall Street's money corrupting government?

      The whole thing is solved by a simple set of campaign finance rules. Publicly-funded campaigns. Take the money out of politics, and you'd be surprised how quickly things turn around. But as long as a very few people have all the power and money, they will be the ones in charge of government. When it takes $50 million to become a senator, and only corporations can donate really big money, guess what? corporations are going to have the power. The structure of our government is not corrupt. With sufficient will, every single elected office can change hands within 7 short years.

      If there's a problem, look to your neighbors. Look to yourself. Somebody is electing these turds. As far as I can tell, there is only one US senator that doesn't take corporate money and he's a socialist. Maybe there are some congressmen who don't take corporate money, I don't know, but if there are, it's only a very few.

      If OWS is going to focus on any government building, it should be the United States Supreme Court, that sold off the last shreds of good government with one decision. Maybe go directly to the homes of Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Kennedy, Roberts.

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    10. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because the seat of power in the US is not in fact in Washington DC, but in corporate boardrooms.

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    11. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by hedwards · · Score: 2

      The GOP would never go for it though, and unless the Democrats get enough votes for cloture they couldn't get it through the Senate. Not that the Democrats are necessarily any better, but the GOP is primarily in charge of looking out for the rich regardless of what it does to the country.

    12. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by imahawki · · Score: 2

      Someone needs to go and burn down the Capital building already.

      I've been puzzled from the beginning as to why the OWS protesters aren't in front of the Capitol and the White House. They're the ones ultimately responsible for Wall Street corruption, because it necessarily requires a corrupt government in order to exist and grow.

      For corruption to flourish in the private sector requires a corrupt government, for only with a corrupt government can the corrupt businesses and individuals be protected from the People and Justice.

      Strat

      I've been saying this too. One of many reasons OWS was misguided but IMO the biggest reason is they were in the wrong city!

    13. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Marillion · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not always about money. It could also be blind party loyalty. GoDaddy has an strong track record of donating to republican candidates including Ted Stevens who was a long time friend of Big Media. It would not surprise me to find that leadership of GoDaddy doesn't understand the technical flaws of SOPA.

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    14. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Phanatic1a · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Do you think government is corrupting Wall Street, or is Wall Street's money corrupting government?

      That's a false dichotomy; the interest swings both ways.

      But the fundamental problem is that the government has the power to do this sort of thing. So long as it has that power, it will be attractive for corporations to influence it in order to seek rents. Doesn't matter whether you make the money train more opaque, doesn't matter what limits you set: if buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first thing that's going to be bought and sold are the legislators.

    15. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by galaad2 · · Score: 2

      It takes a lot to light marble and granite on fire.

      not that much, just a big spaceship with a really big particle cannon.

      also, must not forget the flying sharks... lots of flying sharks to chase down any of the escaping congressional critters.

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    16. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Take the money out of politics, and you'd be surprised how quickly things turn around.

      There are ~3.6 trillion reasons why this will not work.

      Hint: as long as there are 532 people divvying up $3.6 trillion, there are going to be people willing to spend millions (or billions) to "influence" those 532 people for a piece of that $3.6 trillion pie.

      Face it, spending a BILLION dollars to buy a couple percent of the Federal Budget is a bargain. And realistically, it doesn't cost anywhere near that much to buy Congresscritters.

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    17. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by desdinova+216 · · Score: 2

      is that anything like a work of Fiction?

    18. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      things that look like ducks *are* ducks.

      Bollocks. Don't they have geese where you come from?

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    19. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Burz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Government regulation of an industry increases the cost of entry for new competition.

      Except when the cost of entry goes down to zero because no one dares to compete with UNregulated monopolies and cartels.

      BTW, if you have a recipe for getting corporate influence out of government without regulation (in a sense restricting the corporations' FREEEEEDOM), please do the world a favor and let us know. Otherwise, most of us are beyond tired of hearing simplistic aphorisms from the planet Rand.

    20. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are an ignorant fool, regurgitating the propaganda the Democrats have fed you. It's the DEMOCRATS who are the party of the rich.

      Which party is acting as human shields to protect tax cuts for the rich at any cost and fighting a measly short-term payroll tax cut that will only benefit the non-rich?

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    21. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by darthdavid · · Score: 2

      Typical libertarian anti-logic. "If we attempt to control corporations with regulations the regulators will be bought off, thereby letting corporations do whatever they want. So we should just eliminate all legislation which somehow prevents corporations from doing whatever they want...".

    22. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by ogdenk · · Score: 2

      Both materials however seem to be vulnerable to high velocity lead, stone, steel or gas expansion due to explosive force.

      We've had this problem throughout history. Technology solved it a long time ago.

    23. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      even to the most novice wildlife photographer (me, for example), ducks don't look like geese.

      there are even ducks that don't look like ducks (wood ducks). but we've had enough learning for today, yes?

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    24. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Phanatic1a · · Score: 2

      Or, it's a fundamental problem that Wall Street has the opportunity (Citizens United) to do this sort of thing.

      You didn't actually read Citizens United, because you don't know what the decision says.

      Citizens United was a non-profit corporation that was attempting to publish a documentary critical of Hillary Clinton. It was advocating against the election of a political candidate. The decision had nothing to do with giving money to politicians, and the CU decision did not overturn limits on either corporate donations to particular federal candidates or on how much money individuals can give to federal candidates.

      The government argued in support of its case that it has the power to ban books. If you're on that side of that argument, I don't think you have much cause to object to SOPA.

    25. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why disagree with the general point? Both can be true - regulation is necessary, and it does increase the cost of entry. It costs money, for example, to make sure that the beef that you're sending out isn't contaminated, but history shows that it's absolutely necessary - the invisible hand is also often blind, stupid, and arbitrary.

      It's only idealogues who argue about either point. This is a false dichotomy.

    26. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2

      Yeah, the WTC was not the worlds tallest building in 2001. Hadn't been since they built the sears tower in 1973.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_tower

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    27. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Stradenko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The recipe for getting corporate influence out of government is to reduce governmental power in corporate behavior. I'm sorry you hate Rand, but that's the gist of it. If the business isn't controlled by government, then business has no interest in government and we can all go about our lives. If you don't like what company does, please found company and change the industry, or at least your small part of it. The problem with regulation and subsidy is that it obfuscates the costs of delivery, so nobody can tell what makes sense and what does not.

    28. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by cavebison · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Established business will support something that gives them that kind of edge.

      Good point. And because the law says shareholders come first, they would practically be required to support it (the same way you're forced to defend patents or lose them), even if the CEO didn't like it.

      Try convincing shareholders that you don't want to do something which protects their investment merely because it's unethical. Your choice is do it, or lose the confidence of the board and possibly lose your company.

      This is the root problem with *everything*, and I mean everything, that goes wrong in business - from pollution to safety to employment - it affects every part of our lives. The law which says shareholders come first.

      Nothing will change if that law isn't changed. I feel this is what the Occupy movement should have concentrated on. You can't ask corporations to "play fair" when the law itself says otherwise.

    29. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      BTW, if you have a recipe for getting corporate influence out of government without regulation (in a sense restricting the corporations' FREEEEEDOM), please do the world a favor and let us know.

      When there is nothing for influence peddlers to sell, there will be no influence sold.

      More simply: take the power away from government and people won't go looking for government to do things for them.

      Ironically, TFA is about the market regulating bad actors, exactly what big-government supporters say the market can't/won't do.

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    30. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by vought · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm sorry, but "Regulation is necessary" seems false to me.
      In a slightly longer view, it costs money to assume that you'll continue to have paying customers if you kill/ill them with faulty beef. I think the GoDaddy situation illustrates that.

      Yes, and well, too bad for all the tainted-beef-eating dead people's families. They can, however, rest easy knowing that the ShitBeefCo will go out of business and its employees will be destitute as soon as ShitBeefCo's CEO's golden parachute inflates over the Caymans, where his bonuses for improving profitbility at SBC are protected from lawsuits.

      See? The market corrected itself; it killed the stupid little people, and rewarded the superior Randian Overlords who worked so hard to get through an MBA program while playing rugby and fucking Muffy in the BMW convertible!

      Thank god for the invisible hand pimp-slapping us all...again. Because the market will automagically correct itself...SUCKERS.

      I have friends who tell me Randroids like you seem to be are sociopaths. I'm starting to think they're right.

      Oh - and I just moved my domains off of GoDaddy AND I wrote to my congresscritters. Have you?

    31. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by TuringTest · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry, but "Regulation is necessary" seems false to me.

      Just about the same than "Regulation is harmful".

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    32. Re:so uh why they'd support it? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      A male mallard clearly doesn't resemble the white domestic goose. But there are plenty of members of both groups that are basically dull brown with speckles.

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  2. 20,034 transferred in the same day by sup2100 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gotta love statistics

    1. Re:20,034 transferred in the same day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mod parent up.

      21,054 transferred out, but 20,034 transferred in. (from TFA)

    2. Re:20,034 transferred in the same day by Surt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is probably the most important thing you miss if you don't read the article. GoDaddy lost only about 1k domains.

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  3. Maybe by chill · · Score: 4, Informative

    This might have something to do with the fact that Go Daddy sucks as a registrar. The whole SOPA thing was just the last straw.

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  4. Democracy. by TehNoobTrumpet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Voting with your wallets is much more effective then the fake choice presented in elections. Hopefully, people will finally realize that in today's world, it's the best way to start making a difference.

    1. Re:Democracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      good thing everyone has the same number of votes in their wallets.

      democracy.

    2. Re:Democracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Voting with your wallets is much more effective then the fake choice presented in elections.

      That depends on how fat your wallet is.

    3. Re:Democracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Voting with your wallets is much more effective then the fake choice presented in elections. Hopefully, people will finally realize that in today's world, it's the best way to start making a difference.

      No. You do both. My New Year wish for the world is actually that also Americans would bother to turn up and vote at an election. Instead of giving up before even trying, and by that handing the control over to the people who do bother. And if the result shouldn't be perfect the first time, you turn up even stronger next time. The politicans who want to keep their seat will start to get the message.

      In a democracy the poor will have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme. ~Aristotle
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    4. Re:Democracy. by next_ghost · · Score: 2

      You obviously don't realize just how small the middle class is right now and it keeps getting smaller.

    5. Re:Democracy. by 0123456 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You obviously don't realize just how small the middle class is right now and it keeps getting smaller.

      Primarily because the tax-consumer class keep voting themselves more of the middle class' money. Democracy can only last until the majority realise they can vote to steal from the minority.

    6. Re:Democracy. by next_ghost · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm tired of hearing it said that democracy doesn't work. Of course it doesn't work. We are supposed to work it. ~Alexander Woollcott

      This is the first most important thing to remember about democracy. The second most important thing to remember is that it's not anywhere near enough to just vote once every few years. Votes are not blank cheques for politicians. You have the right to check up on your elected representatives and the right to complain loudly if they misappropriate government money or do evil. Your duty as a citizen is to use both of those rights.

    7. Re:Democracy. by lightknight · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you want a larger turnout for the elections, you need to offer better candidates; many people stay at home because they despise the choices offered to them.

      There should be a constitutional amendment that states if less than 50% of eligible voters show up to vote, the election cannot be held as valid; elections must be held again, 3 months later, with an entirely new slate of candidates.

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    8. Re:Democracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Democracy can only last until the majority realise they can vote to steal from the minority.

      Your statement is close to the truth. What's happening in America today is the people with the majority of the money vote to steal from the people with the minority of the money.

    9. Re:Democracy. by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      sorry, but while you are correct; its not effective anymore.

      people (especially in a down econ) are mostly going to be voting for the CHEAPEST short-term solution they can find for the problem they are solving.

      no one invests for long-term. no one buys higher quality today when they can buy walmart chinese shit for 'so much less'.

      go to a coupon/deals site like slickdeals or fatwallet. see the mentality of 'todays youth'. see how the near total lack of morality in shopping is abundant in their consumer group. point out how evil a company is and you are made fun of. point out how an item will break so shortly after you buy it and they reply 'yeah, but its only a few dollars!'.

      they don't get it.

      we are so screwed....

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    10. Re:Democracy. by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you want a larger turnout for the elections, you need to offer better candidates; many people stay at home because they despise the choices offered to them.

      Again, the solution to this is to work harder. Don't just wait until the general election; get involved in the primaries. And don't just concentrate on the big-ticket races (President, Governor, US Senator and Representative); pay attention to races for state legislature, city council, board of education, county commissioner, etc. The only way we're going to get better candidates is if more people pay attention to the process by which candidates are made. By the time the Tuesday after the first Monday in November rolls around, it's too late.

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    11. Re:Democracy. by foobsr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Eventually, the politicians should be accountable directly to the people.

      For a starter, any type of accountability would do.

      CC.

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    12. Re:Democracy. by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Today's youth"? Really? You telling us that yesterday's youth was any better?

    13. Re:Democracy. by grahamd0 · · Score: 2

      Part of this is solvable by making voting compulsory.

      Or what? Throw people in jail?

      Support a corrupt Republican, support a corrupt Democrat, or a rot in a prison cell. Sounds like an awesome deal to me.

    14. Re:Democracy. by bky1701 · · Score: 2

      The answer is that money, and businesses, as they run on money, have no place in politics at all. The system we have now is institutionalized bribery. "Vote with your wallet" is not an answer; the answer is change the nature of corporations in this country to discourage corruption and control of markets.

    15. Re:Democracy. by Asphalt · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Contrary to popular belief, democracy can never truly work. At least not for a large population.

      In order for democracy to work, the populace must be of sufficient intellect to make the best decisions for itself. The masses cannot do this, and this reality is unchangeable.

      That which we call "critical" or "abstract" thinking generally requires an IQ of 110 or greater. The average IQ of the U.S. citizen is 98. This means that the majority of Americans have an IQ of less than 100. Those with IQs of less than 100 tend to make decisions based on repetition and consensus rather than critical analysis, and even "smart" people have a difficult time resisting the lure of basing conclusions on "common knowledge".

      As such, people can be fairly easily persuaded to vote against their own interests time, and time, and time again.

      Democracy as a means of preventing tyranny and corruption is fairly useless, for democracy is 3 geniuses, 20 bright people, and 500 idiots voting on a course of action. The numbers are made up, but you get the gist, and they are probably not far off. When someone with an IQ of 65 has an equal influence on important matters as does a person with an IQ of 140, the Achilles heel of of democracy becomes evident.

      A benevolent dictatorship, to whatever extent one can truly exist, would be a far better, more fair, more efficient, more humane form of government than is democracy.

      GoDaddy will be fine, because even though Slashdotters know what SOPA is, 90% of people have no clue as to what is going on.

      Despite nearly 18 months of seeming outrage over the TSA's backscatter and groping, airline travel was up this holiday season. Bloggers and talking heads were pissed, but Joe and Jane Soccermom remained oblivious. Were it put to a vote tomorrow, the TSA's groping policy would be overwhelmingly approved by American voters.

      Similarly, when SOPA or a SOPA-like law is passed, and it will be, Slashdot will blow up with comments, but the legislators who pass it will be re-elected without issue.

      3 geniuses, 20 bright people, 500 idiots.

      The government will once again act against the interest of the citizens, while 3 people scream, 20 people complain on Slashdot, and 500 people watch Monday Night Football.

      Democracy. It doesn't work.

      It never did.

      It never will.

  5. Their "remedy" is to support it from the shadows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can only hope that when more and more special interests begin to require that their support of some law mustn't be made public, the politicians taking the money stop for a second and think about what the hell they're doing.

    BWHAHAA. As if! Man, sometimes I kill myself.

    Carry on, corrupt entities.

  6. Significant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How significant is this? I don't know how to read this data, but TFA itself seems to note that almost as many domains transferred in on the same day, and it says here that they manage some 32 million domains, so that really doesn't seem like much. Can't find any historical data, though, so I don't know if it's outside the norm for daily activity... is it?

  7. It is actually more than 21,000 domains by chrisgeleven · · Score: 4, Informative

    This # doesn't include any domains transferred away from GoDaddy that were delegated to non-GoDaddy nameservers. The 21,000 number is only for domains that used GoDaddy's nameservers for DNS. So the actual # was higher than 21,000.

    The question is what is the real number of transferred away domains? I don't know if any of those statistics are available publicly.

  8. Re:Total control by abhi_beckert · · Score: 2

    Customers tend to stick with a single domain registrar for decades, so 21,000 domains is millions of dollars in lost revenue, in just one day. If they continued to support SOPA it would have really hurt.

    And that doesn't even take into account all the customers who're too lazy to switch existing domains, but will switch for future ones.

    You can bet godaddy will think twice before supporting anything like SOPA ever again.

  9. Very good point! by Weezul · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also, GoDaddy has NOT withdrawn its official congressional support for SOPA, but they pretend they did when talking to the press.

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    1. Re:Very good point! by rgbrenner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      GoDaddy has NOT withdrawn its official congressional support for SOPA

      That's great... Yesterday, I figured I'll just leave my 15 domains there since they backed off their support.. but apparently only in words.

      The way I see it, GoDaddy should be happy people are leaving.. if you run a site that has any user content, SOPA will mean you'll have to shut it down anyway.

      godaddy + sopa support = one less godaddy domain
      sopa passes = one less godaddy domain

      So they're getting what they want either way. They should be happy.

    2. Re:Very good point! by RMingin · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm working on transferring my domain off of GoDaddy, but am destitute. Anyone who would like to send me a few bucks, I'll guarantee it's used only for this transfer.

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    3. Re:Very good point! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yesterday, I figured I'll just leave my 15 domains there since they backed off their support.. but apparently only in words.

      No offense, but this is an example of how gullible people can be and how easy it can be to manipulate them. Say some pretty words and people will continue mindlessly giving you money to erode their own freedoms with. I wish more people understood the ideas behind public relations and marketing. But let's go over it again: you can't trust what corporations say to you. They will always make statements that stand to gain them the most favor, whether the statements are true or not.

      One has to actually use one's brain a little. Why would GoDaddy support SOPA, and then less than 24 hours later NOT support it? Do you think it's because they all changed their minds over there for some reason? Do you think they learned something new about SOPA they didn't know before? Or is it because they saw a pending backlash on the internet and wanted to release a bullshit statement that would satiate the docile among us? Do you really think they "backed off their support"? This is not difficult to figure out with a little bit of thought.

    4. Re:Very good point! by kyrio · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can transfer it into my account for free.

    5. Re:Very good point! by kyrio · · Score: 2

      ... my account at a different registrar, that is.

    6. Re:Very good point! by viperidaenz · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can provide the funds you request. Misfortune has it that it is locked in a trust and I need $199 to process the fund request. If you send me the $199 I can then send you what you require. You can trust me...

    7. Re:Very good point! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm working on transferring my domain off of GoDaddy, but am destitute. Anyone who would like to send me a few bucks, I'll guarantee it's used only for this transfer.

      I see that you're joking, but for the record, I bet you can find a registrar who will gladly take a transfer from GoDaddy for practically no charge.

      If you are small company like GoDaddy, and not a complete asshat, this appears to be a pretty good opportunity to get a whole bunch of new customers.

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    8. Re:Very good point! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You have a 100 hours work week because you have to manage your domains with the atrocious GoDaddy interface.

      And because you post on slashdot on work hours.

      But seriously, businesses are made of people and if you still trust the people at GoDaddy, that's fine, but that trust as been lost for a lot of people who have domains with them on which they make a living. My domains are mainly with Tucows, but if I used GoDaddy, I would probably consider moving out soon as a purely practical matter, to secure the huge financial interest I have in my domain names.

    9. Re:Very good point! by SlithyMagister · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They will always make statements that stand to gain them the most favor, whether the statements are true or not.

      You're close. Corporations say and do that which will gain them the most money. They exist solely for the purpose of returning value to their shareholders.
      If currying favour with the general public will gain them money, then they will do that. However, if pissing off the 90% will help them mine hordes of cash from the pockets of the other 10%, they will gladly do so.

      Corporations are not moral entities -- they are devoid of conscience. Even the individuals who comprise the corporation must give secondary consideration to moral issues where they conflict with the primary purpose of making money.

      Corporations must never consider an individual's circumstances -- not customers', not employees' nor even individual shareholders' -- all are subject to the overwhelming need to maximize return on investment.

      One might argue that the extreme compensation paid to corporate executives violates this, but in those cases is it usually the extreme greed of the individuals involved, coupled with extreme manipulative behaviour that have convinced shareholders that such compensation will maximize their own return on investment.

      In such a context, only greedy psychopaths remain eligible to inherit the American dream.

    10. Re:Very good point! by rgbrenner · · Score: 2

      I make money from all of my domains.. what do you think I spend 100 hours/week on?

      What I said is exactly the same as others have said:

      CEO Ben Huh has announced that they will be moving their array of over 1,000 domains away from GoDaddy unless the registrar recants their support of the act.

      http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/22/cheezburgers-ben-huh-if-godaddy-supports-sopa-were-taking-our-1000-domains-elsewhere/

      If they stop supporting SOPA, then I (and Ben Huh and others) will leave our domains there. If they don't, then I will move my domains. Simple as that.

    11. Re:Very good point! by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Posting anonymously is supposed to protect someone from the repercussions of making a strong statement. No one should be heckled for speaking their honest beliefs behind that protective cloak. You just made the "if you aren't doing anything bad, you have nothing to hide" fallacy, which is disappointing. (Moreover, there's more to civilization than the length of one's work week. Stop waving your dick around. It gets you flamebait mods.)

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    12. Re:Very good point! by SomePgmr · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed, there were a few that ran specials for godaddy xfers with deal codes like SOPASUCKS.

    13. Re:Very good point! by inglorion_on_the_net · · Score: 2

      That's great... Yesterday, I figured I'll just leave my 15 domains there since they backed off their support.. but apparently only in words.

      This is not aimed at you personally, but I just have to get it off my chest: if by now you still haven't figured out that GoDaddy aren't the Good Guys, then I don't know why SOPA would change your mind. Seriously. It isn't like the GoDaddy badness isn't well documented or hasn't been going on for years. It's like they're _trying_ to be the most evil they can be.

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  10. Misleading summary by SuperMog2002 · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the article, GoDaddy lost 21,054, but they also gained 20,034, for a net loss of 1020. Given their scale, that doesn't exactly sound like a massive exodus. Also, without any further information, for all we know, this is just a regular day of churn that happened to end negative.

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  11. Re:Total control by naroom · · Score: 4, Informative

    If they continued to support SOPA it would have really hurt.

    They DID continue to support SOPA. They just released some damage-control PR saying they weren't supporting it as strongly.

  12. Re:Total control by preaction · · Score: 2

    Except they do still support it. Their carefully-worded PR piece and their CEO's blog both say exactly that.

  13. Re:Spellchecking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What does "suprisingly" mean?

  14. GoDaddy... by forkfail · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... is now GoFsckYourselfDaddy

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  15. A successful boycott by J'raxis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Serves them right.

    On the one hand, this is a great example of a successful boycott: GoDaddy committed an egregious action which generated so many complaints, threats of monetary loss, and now 21,000 examples of actual loss, that GoDaddy did a complete about-face and dropped support of SOPA.

    On the other hand, this company has committed so many egregious and unethical actions over their lifetime (anyone else remember NoDaddy.com?) that I would rather see them lose so much business that they go out of business. If I hadn't already moved my domains off of them after one of their earlier outrages, I'd still move them off now, even though they turned around on SOPA. Let their flaming wreckage be an example to other domain registrars.

  16. Re:Total control by Baloroth · · Score: 2

    Also, the official "move your domain day" was the 29th IIRC, so while this could be an insignificant blip, it might be an indicator of how many will move later.

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  17. Re:Then Who? by Osgeld · · Score: 2

    hostmonster, but if you want the deal you have to pay up front for a couple years (which isnt all that bad), otherwise they have no per month plan the shortest would be 90 days where it comes out to 10 bucks a month

    yea their pricing is a bit of a ass, but their service is great, I switched from godaddy about 6 years ago and have had great experiences (and even have ssh access which is freaking awesome)

  18. Google uses Godaddy as a registrar partner by symbolset · · Score: 4, Informative

    Announced in 2010 Found on Reddit.

    It's probably time to remind Google what "Don't be evil" is. Breaking the Internet is definitely a no-no.

    I wonder how many other companies need to be reminded of this. Anybody got a list?

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    1. Re:Google uses Godaddy as a registrar partner by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Google is pretty open-minded about that "evil" thing. But more importantly, they have a strong financial interest in not breaking the internet.

  19. Re:Then Who? by Solandri · · Score: 2

    I am in up to my eyeballs at Godaddy. Who has similar prices and services that are worth changing to?

    I was searching for Godaddy alternatives yesterday.

    At a similar price, the registrars which consistently came up were namecheap.com, name.com, and surprisingly dreamhost.com (not for their features, but because they include whois privacy in their regular price). I think all these are resellers though (enom kept coming up as their registrar).

    In terms of features and support, gandi.net and hover.com seemed to be most popular. They are pricier than Godaddy though.

  20. 25,000 is laughably low by Twinbee · · Score: 4, Informative
    This news has been over Reddit and apparently has been discredited. 25,000 is apparently very low in this industry, and is therefore a joke. The real number is much higher. For the latest info, follow this story and listen to samzdaman who seems to know his stuff: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/nq17m/godaddy_has_actually_lost_one_million_1000000/ To quote him:

    GoDaddy accounts for 30% of all domain registrations, and there are, on average, 27K .com domains registered PER DAY.

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  21. Looks like Godaddy is gaming the numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1) If you take a look at godaddy New domains, they are mostly spam, malware or ad pages, and most are registered by one or a small number of people in China.
    2) Transfers into godaddy are mostly bulk transfers from Chinese registrars.
    3) Transfers out are also mostly spam/malware/ad pages, and are going to Chinese registrars.

    The chinese connection is not a coincidence. I will bet money that those Chiese registrars are either controlled by Godaddy or have a sweetheart deal with them to either game ICAAN or the numbers.

    Either way those numbers are misleading at domaincontrol and cannot be trusted.

  22. Re:Compared to whom? by foniksonik · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1&1 is fine with me. I've still got a free DEV package with unlimited domains (register for $6) and 300 MB of space. More than enough to host prototypes. Comes with sudo access so again works.

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  23. Re:Then Who? by wmbetts · · Score: 2

    Namecheap is accredited and not an Enom reseller.

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  24. Re:Total control by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Yes, just 1/2000. But when you know how companies work, you know they're probably still crapping their pants over it.

    Companies have to grow to make their shareholders and investors happy. Stagnation is an alarm bell. Shrinking is a "gimme my money back NOW" indicator. No matter how small.

    Especially in times like this when investors are at a hair trigger already.

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  25. Re:Good Alternatives to GoDaddy? by Yosho · · Score: 2

    For what it's worth, I've been using DirectNIC for years and have never had a problem with them. They are also not on the list of SOPA supporters.

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  26. Re:Their "remedy" is to support it from the shadow by blahplusplus · · Score: 2

    "I can only hope that when more and more special interests begin to require that their support of some law mustn't be made public, the politicians taking the money stop for a second and think about what the hell they're doing."

    See here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPQgjkTRRRI

  27. Plugin to boycott GoDaddy's remaining customers? by Kogun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So where is the browser plugin to allow me to boycott the websites STILL using GoDaddy for their domain hosting?

  28. Re:Good Alternatives to GoDaddy? by theskipper · · Score: 2

    Just wanted to chime in and say avoid Register.com because of the ongoing renewal costs (and Network Solutions of course). As others have replied, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the low-margin registrars like Namecheap. There's Moniker and Fabulous too.

    So be sure to check renewal pricing on their published price list on the site. Quite a few offer sweetheart transfer deals then revert to $30-$40 annual renewals (Register.com, Netsol, others). There's absolutey nothing that $30-$40 buys you...except financing their marketing budget to suck in more people paying $30-$40 a year.

    Best of luck.

  29. Re:Compared to whom? by Pento · · Score: 2

    1&1 is a terrible host - I write a moderately popular WordPress plugin, and the only host-specific bug reports I get are for 1&1 - even shitty GoDaddy hosting is better.

  30. Re:Compared to whom? by illumnatLA · · Score: 2

    1&1 is terrible. I had a site go down for about a week due to crap on their end. Initially, their tech support would say that there was nothing wrong. Then I would get 'bumped up' and the only response they would give me is "our technicians are aware of the situation and are working to resolve it." Can you give me an estimate on how soon it will be fixed? "I do not have that information." What is the problem? "I do not have that information, sir." That was all after about a 2 1/2 hour wait on hold.

    I switched to Dreamhost after that and haven't had any problem since. Once when I did submit a trouble ticket, the tech responded to me BEFORE the automated responder saying "your trouble ticket has been received and someone will be with you shortly."

    Plus... there's the added benefit that their US based tech support is an hour south of me in Orange County just in case if I ever did have any real problems, I could take a drive and do some, uh, encouraging. ;-)

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  31. Google "godaddy loses 72000 domains" by walterbyrd · · Score: 2

    Without quotes.

    I think that the generally accepted number, is a little over 72,000.

    Although, considering the millions of domains that godaddy is hosting, even72,000 is not that much.

  32. Because it's much easier to boycott Godaddy by walterbyrd · · Score: 2

    Boycotting godaddy will cost you nothing, it might even save you money.

    And, for the most part, it's no more difficult to host with namecheap, or whatever.

    Whereas, moving from your chosen OS platform can be a lot trouble, and expense.