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Techrights Recommends An Apple Boycott

walterbyrd writes with a quote from an article at Techrights: "Given the latest actions from Apple we cannot help recommending that people buy nothing from Apple. Boycott the company for being a threat to the IT landscape and also to common sense." More from the article: "...Apple has been working hard to embargo — not just sue — the competition. Apple disregards the notion of fair competition..."

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  1. Re:twitter, I like you by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apple behaviour is pretty disgusting and, I'd join the embargo 'BUT' damn I've always found their gear to be overhyped and overpriced and basically always gone else where. I'll think you'll find that this is pretty much the trend with the majority of computer geeks.

    For what it's worth I vow never to buy an Apple product ;D.

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  2. Re:Effective Anymore? by lennier1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    21,000 domains left, 20,000 signed up. At best that protest has cost them some petty cash they didn't give a damn about anyway.

  3. Rounded rectangles by garyebickford · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your comment was posted in a rounded rectangle. Please stop that you are violating Apple's patents.

    Interestingly, this was one of Steve Jobs' early contributions. There was famously an argument when they were designing the first Macs (having licensed the windowing system from Xerox PARC) - he insisted on including rounded rectangles in the design. His head designer (whose name I forget - Parkhurst?) could not figure why he wanted rounded rectangles. Jobs took him outside, and showed how every rectangular road sign was a rounded rectangle.

    Which shows that all things old are new again. It's worth noting that nobody ever patented rounded rectangles on road signs - it was just a useful design, not a 'world-shaking invention' in the world view of that time.

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  4. Re:Wrong by Improv · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is the bulk of your claim that if you install Darwin on your phone, you essentially have a mostly-working iOS install, and that Objective-C is better than Java?

    As far as I know, the first is not true, and the second is at least a questionable claim, given that language preferences vary so much.

    Android may not be the best imaginable mobile OS, but it's certainly a lot more open than iOS.

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  5. Re:Patent fight not the only reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    DRM

    Funny as Apple/Jobs pushed music labels to release their music DRM free

    Locking hardware to software

    They also do that with a reason and not the "evil" they want to rape our babies kind of thing. With Apple they are so obsessed with user experience (and they don't suck at it) that they want to control every aspect. And hate that vertical approach but it works for them. If I look how different the experience is between my android smarthphone and iPad I find it hard to criticize them.

    Pushing of proprietary standards

    Hilarious. You are aware of the fact that they favored pushing HTML5 instead of the proprietary stuff like Flash. You are aware they are on of the driving force like open standard as OpenCL.

    Being the middle-man

    Because bandwidth, processing cost, support are all free.

    Being secretive about developer revenues

    Can you tell me where apple advertises with the fact that IOS is as lucrative. Can I tell you something as a developer who also built mobile applications and also have android devices. If the IOS market is so bad, you don't want to know which graveyard the Android market is.

    As someone calling bullshit on the fact that Samsung didn't copy icons or look and feel. Look at KIES, look at the use of sunflower as an icon for the photo picture. Not like the telephone symbol as a photographer I never seen the sunflower as a mental model for a photograph.

    For me people may buy and boycott what they want but damn there is so much FUD these days on sites like slashdot it isn't even funny anymore.

  6. Re:Wrong by Guy+Harris · · Score: 5, Informative

    I suppose that's why it's awesome that iOS is open-source

    Actually it is (check out Darwin sometime).

    Most of iOS is not open source. The versions of Darwin atop which particular Mac OS X releases are built are; the versions of Darwin atop which particular iOS releases aren't - maybe a particular Darwin release is "close enough" to the Darwin in a particular iOS release, but, even then, it doesn't include the low-level ARM support isn't there in xnu, and a lot of the higher-level stuff isn't open source even in Mac OS X (good luck finding the source to Foundation - not Core Foundation, but Foundation - or AppKit or UIKit).

  7. Re:Apple does not block choice. by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Informative
  8. Re:Give me a break by psergiu · · Score: 4, Informative

    To add:

    In EU stores, the Samsung tablets are advertised by the floor sales people as "The Samsung iPad, it's better because it has flash" - part of the Samsung sales training. Seen it in multiple places in a couple of countries.

    Samsung is betting of the same marketing principles used by the following "well known" bands: Powasonic, Panascanic, Sunny, SQNY, Nokla & Adibas and let's not forget the "famous" aPad & ePad Android tablets. Their frigging lawyers could not tell apart a iPad and a Galaxy Tab. http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/judge-holds-up-ipad-2-and-galaxy-tab-in-court-samsung-lawyers-cant-tell-the-difference-20111014/

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  9. Re:Apple does not block choice. by Guy+Harris · · Score: 5, Informative

    I hate Apple because they have ruined software for me.

    On my desktops or servers download Windows freeware or open source software and get good quality software that does not necessarily track or spy on me.

    On my desktop (well, laptop, really) I can download Mac OS X freeware or open-source software and get good quality software that does not necessarily track or spy on me.

    I can install whatever I want.

    Same here.

    I can develop on it for free, I don't have to pay anyone to start programming. On an Apple product I have to pay Apple for this right to write code for my own device.

    OK, so what you really mean is "...because they have ruined smartphone and tablet software for me". I can and do develop, on my Mac, for free, software that runs on Mac OS X.

  10. Re:Wrong by muon-catalyzed · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually it is (check out Darwin sometime).

    iOS is NOT an open source. Many parts are "sourced" by Apple from the open source community and they are pretty much forced to release them under various licenses, also some other unimportant libraries are made open, but that doesn't mean that you can just configure&make the OS on the spot.

    Unlike Android the shell of a CarrierIQ system that shipped with iOS was never enabled

    Really? It looks even worse, Apple and not the carrier has chosen to install it. Why? It is burried inside the OS for an unknown purpose. It is there.

    Android is shipping with active key-loggers

    Again, that CIQ software is NOT installed in Android by Google, it is put there by those carriers. You can still update your device to clean OS quite effortlessly even compile your own Android ICS build (from real open source repositories). On the other hand iOS features CarrierIQ spyware as a permanent part buried inside your phone under unknown conditions, it might be tracking you or not, some GUI switches might not be telling the whole story here.

    iOS is far easier then Android thanks to the use of Objective-C in applications

    ObjC is not that friendly or easy, it sports some weird syntax, slow code (compared to plain C), incompatible outside iOS and it crashes iOS apps. App crashing is common on iOS, even Microsoft solved crashing in the late 90'.

  11. Re:Give me a break by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nothing is created in a vacuum, there is always inspiration drawn from what already exists. Bizarrely companies think that they shouldn't have to acknowledge this but at the same time retain full and exclusive rights to their stuff and prevent anyone from doing something similar. The degree to which this is enforced varies from not at all in fashion to a sometimes in music (unless you actually sample someone else) to in any way at all with corporate branding.

    The brightly lit white Apple stores look like the similarly minimal and bright shops they have had in Japan for ages. In fact Steve Job's trademark polo neck clothing came about because he visited a factory in Japan where the workers wore uniforms. He wanted Apple employees to do the same but they resisted, so he decided to just do it himself and asked a Japanese designer to come up with one for him. She sent him 100 black polo neck tops.

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  12. Re:Apple does not block choice. by psergiu · · Score: 4, Informative

    parent = AC = troll.
    But i'll bite:
    http://opensource.apple.com/
    And Bonjour = Zeroconf, Avahi which also gets installed by the Linux distros and they are amazing tools - just yesterday did some Avahi magic and made a 15year old network Laser printer (DEC LN14) discoverable.
    Also Chrome & the Android browser are using Apple's WebKit (forked from KHTML, open source and downloadable from the above link).
     

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  13. Re:Give me a break by chrb · · Score: 4, Informative

    That site exists to track Apple patent applications "in search of future features and secrets," as the site puts it [patentlyapple.com]. It's not celebrating patents

    Did you even look at the site? Their slogan, which you can't miss because it's in the page header, is "Celebrating Apple's Spirit of Invention. They Imagine. They Explore. They Inspire and Invent." It's hard to interpret that as not celebrating Apple's patents, in the context of a site which exists to list Apple's patents...

  14. Re:Apple does not block choice. by snemarch · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm not sure how they could make it *easier* let alone "trying hard to make it impossible" as you claim.

    Perhaps by not writing code that specifically checks if it's running on Apple hardware and refuses to load parts of the OS if it isn't?

    Apple did go to some lengths to make it hard running OS X on vanilla x86 systems. Like, AES-encrypting various system kexts and making it impossible to dump the memory of DSMOS driver to get the decryption keys.

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  15. Re:Give me a break by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Informative

    That is not illegal.

    What was illegal is that Microsoft was using its Windows monopoly and its pre-installed state to unfairly gain dominance in another area: internet browsers. By preinstalling IE on Windows, they ensured that every single computer that was purchased from an OEM had IE already on it.

    The fact that IE was free was never an issue; MS got hit for Windows Media player in Europe, and removed it from the stock install, but they kept it free-- thats not illegal.

  16. Re:Give me a break by CheerfulMacFanboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nothing is created in a vacuum, there is always inspiration drawn from what already exists. Bizarrely companies think that they shouldn't have to acknowledge this but at the same time retain full and exclusive rights to their stuff and prevent anyone from doing something similar.

    Funny you should mention: Samsung sued several companies because they supposedly copied their phones. Yeah, Samsung!

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