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Amazon To Collect Indiana Sales Tax In 2014
An anonymous reader writes with this quote from an Associated Press report:
"Amazon.com will begin collecting Indiana's 7 percent sales tax from customers in the state in 2014, under an agreement announced Monday. ... Gov. Mitch Daniels' office said Indiana will become the fourth state with such a tax collection agreement with Seattle-based Amazon. It follows a lawsuit by Indianapolis-based shopping mall owner Simon Property Group against the state over the issue and a lobbying push on state legislators by traditional retailers to end what they call an unfair price advantage for online retailers. The deal doesn’t include any other companies, but Daniels said the state is asking Congress to require all online businesses to collect state sales taxes."
Sales taxes of all kinds can be considered 'double dipping' as your income is already taxed. Additionally, they are regressive taxes.
When doing business with amazon, you are entering into a private transaction that is (probably) not within the state's borders or jurisdiction, unless Amazon is incorporated in that state. Congress is granted the right to regulate interstate commerce, they have not done so in this case. They're also required to make such duties equal across all 50 states, which is probably not going to be a popular move.
So in general I think this is a bad thing, and the only thing worse would be for brick-and-mortar retailers to lobby congress and make it legal.
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Retailers gripe about people using their shop for browsing, then buying on Amazon --- but nobody mentions the people (I'm one) who use Amazon for reading reviews, while they're shopping and buying in the retail store.
As far as the tax goes --- I don't buy it. Local taxes help pay for local services. The fireman will come if there's a fire in their shop. Amazon already pays taxes in the location where they do business, and the fireman will come if there's a fire in their warehouse. And UPS and other shippers pay taxes where they operate, too.
The irony is that now we don't have proper representation and we have some of the highest taxes in the world.
Our taxes aren't particularly high for a developed country, and if we aren't properly represented it's because we got what we voted for, or didn't vote.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Except that the purchasers still owe sales/use taxes to the state. Your transaction with Amazon is no more "private" than with a local grocery store.
Speak for yourself! I live in Indiana! Simon Property Group is a greedy company that have taken over many Malls across Indiana! I"m still going to shop online -- price and selection can not be beat!
And now you will be paying to have police and roads and schools while you shop online, yay!
Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is farther away.
And now you will be paying to have police and roads and schools while you shop online, yay!
I already pay for police and roads and schools while I shop online, because I shop online from the comfort of my own home, upon which I pay outrageous property taxes.
*some* of the malls? Almost all of them. Of course the Simon family is FROM indiana and the National headquarters is in Indy ( despite them having more properties in other states). The thing that's most annoying is that they have consistently been greedy when it comes to major decisions. Rather than invest heavily in Malls that were struggling to combat the economic down turn of the area ( i.e. Lafayette Square Mall ) they decided to put all their money into the northside malls, Castleton, Keystone, Carmel's Clay Terrace and Hamilton Town Center.
All of the latter malls would have kept on going fine without Simon beefing them up, and now Lafayette Square mall is defunct and they whole surrounding area has gone to hell in the last 10 years. Thankfully there's been the relocation of Best Buy and the new superwallmart to help breathe some life back in there, but that Simon abandoned that area completely should have been discouraged by the city.
it never used to be this way however... Simon changed to its greedy ways slowly as the founder Melvin Simon retired from the company in the 1990's and died a couple of years ago. They used to be a huge charitable organization and really helped the community. What a shame
Amazon has 3 distribution centers in Indiana and just announced a fourth one, and HAD AN EXISTING DEAL WITH INDIANA NOT TO CHARGE SALES TAX.
The only reason the state is pursing this now is to appease the Simon Family which is buddy buddy with many key legislators.
It's not a tax on the business, it's a tax on the buyer. The difference here is not that the buyer is not still supposed to pay, it's that Amazon will now handle the collection, because that's 1000x times more efficient than trying to enforce it for every single person in the state(s) collecting it.
And, the complaint from in-state businesses is not that the Amazon, etc is using resources of their state, it's that they are able to compete unfairly with a sometimes 9+% price break. Sure, it can hurt huge companies like Wal-mart with a physical presence in all states, but ironically it's even *worse* for the small, local businesses who are already being hurt by Wal-mart's physical presence...
Correction:
He doesn't use those things. He lives in his parent's basement.
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