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India Mobile Handset Backdoor Memo Probably a Fake
daveschroeder writes "In the wake of previous coverage alleging that Apple, Nokia, RIM, and others have provided Indian government with backdoors into their mobile handsets — which itself spawned a US investigation and questions about handset security — it turns out the memo which ignited the controversy is probably a fake designed to draw attention to the "Lords of Dharmaraja." According to Reuters, "Military and cyber-security experts in India say the hackers may have created the purported military intelligence memo simply to draw attention to their work, or to taint relations between close allies India and the United States." Apple has already denied providing access to the Indian government."
It's not a backdoor if it's "by accident..."
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patiently waiting for everyone who was Apple-bashing to recant their statements.
Meanwhile in the US, telecom companies and every other industry is bending over backwards for our police state. I find it rather funny that this accusation gets press but you rarely find mention of people actually wanting to stop warrantless wiretaps. After all, both Microsoft and Skype have quietly complied with allowing eavesdropping by the government. So honestly it wouldn't surprise me one bit that handsets have backdoors given to the US government which are then figured out by other oppressive governments to spy on their citizens.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
The Slashdot community already convicted Apple of this and have moved on.
And yes, I realize it's about Nokia as well as RIM, too - but in the original story discussion very few people paid any attention to those players.
#DeleteChrome
This reminds me an X-files episode where you are left not knowing what to believe. Do you believe the convincing evidence or the "official denial" of the convincing evidence. Hmmmmm..... I guess I just won't carry around one of those personal tracking devices until I know the truth.
So the United States and Indian governments are claiming the memo is a fake, and we are supposed to believe them? Right...
If you find this post offensive, don't read it! THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING! I am what I am because of how apes behave.
Haha, Apple, RIM, Nokia, Slashdot, and others got Punk'd.
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
As the submitter of the original story, I'll be relieved if the leaked memo is a fake. It gives me an excuse to put off migrating from Mac OS X to Linux, which was going to be a good deal of work.
But the earlier case of RIM agreeing to provide in-country servers to enable government surveillance in the UAE, India and Saudia Arabia shows the leverage that governments can wield over companies that operate within their territory. Vigilance is warranted.
apple does not use foxconn as a supplier.
foxconn doesn't collude with state security to torture people who lose apple prototypes.
foxconn has great relations with its employees and they have great working conditions
apple products dont pollute the environment
apple does not abuse its monopoly nor bully competitors with patent lawsuits
all of apple's IP claims are legitimate and represent true innovation
we have always been at war with eurasia
and also apple never gave backdoor access to the government to its systems. even though under CALEA it is required to for all US products.
with union labor.
Show up here once again to find another 'opps it was a fake' after you swallow another hysterical turd of a story.
don't matter. Now you know the truth.
People will believe something because they want it to be true, or because they're afraid it is true. This holds in spite of evidence to the contrary or the absence of any corroborating data.
Doubly unfortunate is that assertions like this ask the accusee to prove a negative, knowing full well that proving it would necessarily reveal source code and/or trade secrets and/or secret agreements with governments.
What these companies have done is grant the same access the CALEA law gives the US Government to other countries. Other countries have taken this authority and used it for espionage. Thus these companies statements that "We didn't build a back door for India" then is correct. They built it for the U.S. Government.
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to taint relations between close allies India and the United States
"allies" has an element of equality to the relationship.
India is still basically the colonial puppet that it has been for a few hundred years, still under the thumbs of the neo-imperialist west.
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Did-Symantec-source-code-hack-reveal-Indian-phone-surveillance-1406612.html
Let us not forget that not only did we get source to Symantec revealed, Symantec confessed it had been stolen, but said it was an old version. So we already have confirmation that Indian military DOES get the source to products, however there may be disinformation spread for commercial gain here.
Also be aware that if India got Symantec's code then most likely other nations (e.g. Israel) known for their cyber attacks on foreign countries also likely got the source too.
Also let us not forget CarrierIQ the USA pre-installed surveillance software that can record pretty much everything, if CarrierIQ just send a 'profile' down telling it what to record.
"Reuters has obtained a large digital cache appearing to contain emails that were posted by the group but were quickly blocked by file-sharing sites."
Reuters is owned by the banking cartel of Rothschilds which would make it as credible as a whore with pennies in her ass.
And suddenly everyone in Slashdot believes it? :) Come on, your Apple cravings are THAT bad? Guess it's time to look for treatment :)
I don't know, I think it still sounds legitimate to me. Not because Apple or Nokia would cave in, no. Because it sounds like current India government. There's serious political rivalry between groups and some of them want to stick to power because of nice corrupt binds they have created. I have hard time to believe that no one would be happy to spy on enemies at so high level.
user@ubuntubox:~$ stfu This server is going down for shutdown NOW!
Normally, I'd be inclined to agree that the memo was a fake.
But in light of all of the carrier iq facts we're presented with;
this is why I'm not one of the idiots who paid $600.00US for the insult.
Don't kid yourself, India is not a democracy - you are guilty until proven innocent.
So it must be true. After all, companies never lie, and always have the public's best interests at heart.