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Nanocoating Waterproofs Any Gadget

An anonymous reader writes "Water has always been the bane of electronics, however American company Liquipel just announced that they have developed a way to completely waterproof any device against the elements. Using a revolutionary process, Liquipel applies a hydrophobic nanocoating to phones, computers, and other devices that completely waterproofs them and protects them against accidental exposure to liquids."

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  1. Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What? Your TV is only 3D HDTV? It's not WATER PROOF?! Why not? Are you poor? Why haven't you bought one? How else do you plan to entertain under water?

    1. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I read this to my girlfriend because I thought it was funny. Her response? "It would be kind of cool to watch TV underwater. I want one in the shower. Do you know how boring it is to shave your legs?"

    2. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by TheLink · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe if you helped her shave her legs it would be more interesting. At least the first few times ;).

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    3. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe if you helped her shave her legs it would be more interesting.

      Then she can do his back.

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    4. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by Belial6 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, in the "There Was Blood EVERYWHERE!!!" kind of way.

    5. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by narcc · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's the most interesting response I've seen from Siri yet...

    6. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by logjon · · Score: 4, Funny

      He'll purr like a walrus.

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    7. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by Kagetsuki · · Score: 5, Informative

      My Android phone is waterproof (IS11CA) and I actually use it to watch video/listen to audio in the shower/bath pretty much every day. They do actaully sell TVs for use in shower by the way.

    8. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by Amouth · · Score: 4, Funny

      and put, on his three wolf moon shirt

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    9. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let me guess, she doesn't poop either.

    10. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by zazzel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wonder how people can actually do this kind of thing. I always feel relieved when I'm in the quiet sanctity of my bathroom, and the only thing I hear is water flowing and bubbles bursting. I still prefer actual books, too. They just work, and when I drop them, all I lose is a cheap paperback.

      There's way too much noise (aka "entertainment") in the world anyways.

    11. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Since my wife doesn't have hairy legs and never needs to shave her legs, I'm curious - do women need to shave their legs in the shower?

      The non-inflatable ones do, yes.

    12. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny
      Please note that entertaining underwater when more than two (2) fish are present constitutes a public performance and you will be persecuted under appropriate copyright laws unless you pay the $2 million public performance fee.

      Love,

      MPAA

      PS: Yes, I said persecuted not prosecuted.

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    13. Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! by cylcyl · · Score: 4, Funny

      using lasers to saw off her legs seems like an extreme solution...

  2. speak for yourselves.... by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At one point we’ve all done it – spilt a drink over a laptop, gotten our tablets soaked in the rain, or even dropped our phone in the toilet.

    I've never done any of those things with my expensive tools/toys. It baffles me how badly people treat expensive and hard to replace tools. It's not limited to technology either; a friend of mine has a collection of rusted saws, screwdrivers and other tools because he's too lazy to bring them in out of the rain after a big home improvement project. Pathetic.

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    1. Re:speak for yourselves.... by EvanED · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've killed two separate MS Natural 4000s, one about 30 minutes after getting it. It's very rare that I'll spill, but man, it seems like just a little splash has a high probability of rendering it useless.

      Personally though, the extra comfort of a comfortable-to-use keyboard is worth an occasional fairly-expensive (at least for a grad student) replacement. I never understand people who spend like $1500 for an awesome gaming rig or something and then get a cheapass keyboard, which is one of the couple components you actually use. But I might just be overly sensitive or something; I do pay a lot of attention to arm ergonomics as fallout from wrist problems many years back.

    2. Re:speak for yourselves.... by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Funny

      Get back to us when you kill an IBM Model M keyboard. It's like the Tonka Truck of keyboards. You hit someone with a Model M, they're going down.

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    3. Re:speak for yourselves.... by EvanED · · Score: 4, Funny

      You hit someone with a Model M, they're going down.

      Unfortunately that'll be me hitting you after I have to listen to you type for a couple hours. :-)

      (I'm well aware of the model M's reputation, but I don't find the better "button feel" to be anywhere near worth the noise, let alone the lack of a split keyboard or the Natural 4000's reverse tilt which I really really wish was more common. That alone makes typing far more comfortable; I don't understand why it's basically the only keyboard out there with that feature.)

    4. Re:speak for yourselves.... by delinear · · Score: 5, Funny

      The only real way to kill a Model M is to throw it into the fires of Mount Doom, where it was forged.

  3. What I want to know is... by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    why is my $15 Walgreens watch waterproof to a depth of 20 meters, but if I sneeze on my $400 Android / iPhone it's ruined and I voided the warranty?

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    1. Re:What I want to know is... by QuasiSteve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you'd have to do a little more than sneeze on it - but I am well aware of stories in the past where e.g. sporters who sweated a little (much) got told by the service center that the humidity indicators in their iPod (or similar) indicated the device got wet and thus the warranty was void.

      But just to address your specific example - your $15 Walgreens watch probably has little to no openings and whatever interface controls are there are very easy to make waterproof. Compare to the many slots and compartments on a typical smartphone which often are required to be easily user-accessible. You wouldn't want to have to unscrew the back of your smartphone every time you'd just want to recharge it (if it ran for 2 years on a few button cells like your watch, then that wouldn't be much of an issue).

      But, more importantly, your $15 Walgreens watch is $15. If they actually got a claim from somebody with valid proof that they only dove to 19.95m and not over 20.00m, sending out a new $15 Walgreens watch is a heck of a lot cheaper than going over that paperwork and trying to tell you that you must be mistaken.
      For $400+ devices, on the other hand, it's a lot cheaper to open it up, point at the humidity tags, and say "sucks to be you".

    2. Re:What I want to know is... by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      why is my $15 Walgreens watch waterproof to a depth of 20 meters, but if I sneeze on my $400 Android / iPhone it's ruined and I voided the warranty?

      A couple of thoughts, here.

      1) How do the microphone, micro SD slot, speakers, and charging/data port on your watch work after you've taken it down to 20 meters?

      2) Has it ever occured to you that the makers and retailers of your $15 watch are simply banking (literally) on the fact that essentially nobody will every submit that cheap watch to 20 meters of water? And if someone does do so, and the watch inevitably fails, what percentage of that already tiny percentage are going to actually bother to pursue warranty service/replacement on something that costs less than a decent pizza? They could simply replace that costs-them-$3 watch every time all three people in that group take a shower, and they'll still make more money than they would have by not saying "Waterproof to 20 meters!" on the packaging and not having to service such claims.

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    3. Re:What I want to know is... by thePig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In that case, the best and cheapest option is to nano-coat the humidity tag.
      No problems with replacement then ...

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  4. Nanocoatings Are Going Mainstream by againsttheodds · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is no doubt that nanocoatings are going mainstream what with the latest solar paint that can harness the sun http://www.infobarrel.com/Solar_Nanopaint_-_Paint_With_Quantum_Dot_Solar_Cells and coatings for jets and other aircraft to provide excellent aerodynamic properties. Then you have nanocoatings for engines and http://againsttheodds.hubpages.com/hub/Nanodiamond-Lubricants-And-Lubrication-Particles and countless other applications on the horizon. It is an exciting time and there is still plenty of room at the bottom.

  5. Hydrophobic nanocoatings... by Captain+Sarcastic · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... are just the thing for rabid technophiles!

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  6. Re:shower tv by artor3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At least for the kindle, waterproof gadgets have already been invented.

    It's called a zip-loc bag, and it is great for unwinding in the tub.

  7. Re:shower tv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the ipod touch/iphone works really well in a plastic bag as well. The touch sensor seems to have no problem being behind the extra plastic, which is nice in heavy rain.

  8. not revolutionary by ridgecritter · · Score: 4, Informative

    What I've read in the media of this process suggests that it's parylene. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parylene

    If so, it's not revolutionary, but a good application of an old coating technology. When I get my iPhone 5, I'll probably send it to these guys for coating.

    1. Re:not revolutionary by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have done Paralyne coating back in the 1980's. It is a vapour deposited plastic. If you are putting down Paralyne 'C' (the chlorinated version - there was no fluorinated version back then as far as I knew) then it could give a tough plastic coating that could be 100 nm deep. This forms a thin coating over all surfaces including under electronic components on boards. I have even seen it creep between stacks of microscope slides that aren't quite flat. This coating was transparent. If you put down a thinker coating you could get interference colours, and if you kept going it would look milky - particularly with Paralyne 'N' (the unchlorinated version)..

      Paralyne was a standard 'tropicalization' process for electronics to be used in harsh environments. You tended to 'tropicalize' circuit boards with masking over the board edge connectors. As Paralyne was good at penetrating, you probably could not coat anything with a 2-way switch, or plugs. But things like earphones and displays would probably be fine.

      Yellowing? I never saw it go yellow. It would have to go amazingly yellow because the coat is so thin.

  9. Re:I'm not an electrician, but... by JakartaDean · · Score: 4, Informative

    How could you coat the interior of a microSD card slot that's covered with a loose-fitting cover and make it waterproof? If the nano-coating doesn't conduct electricity then any card you insert won't make contact with the contacts. If it does conduct, then it's useless as a waterproofing seal over electronics. The same would seem to hold true for any earphone plug or charging port, right?

    I don't know how it works for sure, but I imagine its just surface tension. The coating doesn't physically close the slot, it coats the outside of the slot with a film that repels water. Water doesn't go into very small places at routine pressure -- the raindrop-size drops you encounter all the time are its least-energy state, the "natural" curvature of water drops. The coating keeps water far enough away so this curvature radius doesn't contact the inside of the slot.

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  10. Oh Gawd, not this rubbish again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Prior to studying Computer Science in University, I went to college and studied Electronics Engineering. I worked for an industrial electronic design and manufacturing company for 3 years between one and the other. Most products went into the oilfield. Scada, wellhead controllers, remote sensing equipment, etc. When manufacturing circuit boards 50 at a time, they would put them into a commercial *DISHWASHER* to get all the water soluble solder flux off and wash the board clean. Because chips follow the original Texas Instruments Mach32 procurement process (as outlined by the US Air Force in the 1960's and 1970's), they are hermetically sealed, must past gross leak, and fine leak tests, thermal shock, high altitude testing, centrifuge tests, and other tests, water won't 'leak' into the chips and wreck them. When power is applied, damage can happen. When there is no current, electronics are inert. To keep things 'dry' under power, silicone spray can keep the rest of the electronics from creating short circuits (due to conduction through water, etc.). This was also important in highly corrosive environments (hello petrochemical plant). They also used Hall-effect keyboards and switches to eliminate any chance of an electric arc in hazardous environments (when a seal fails in a methane/ethane/propane plant and you need to press a button to shut off a pump to stop the leak, and pressing the switch blows up the plant you have failed). As stated previously, you can enjoy this new 'wonder technology', or you can get a can of silicone spray. Have fun!

  11. Re:shower tv by modecx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Funny you mention it, I recently saw a plastic-baggie type product designed especially for this purpose: allows full submersion of electronics, and works with capacitive touch screens despite being made of a fairly thick plastic. LokSak

    While I suppose the standard zip-loc would work for the purpose, but this looked much more confidence inspiring.

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  12. Boats... by Coldeagle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would be interesting to see what would happen if the coating was applied to a boat. Would the boat be fouling proof? Also, would it go even faster because it's coated in a hydrophobic substance? Hmmmm...The geek in me wants to get a toy boat, test its performance, then have them coat it then test it again and see if the performance improves by a measurable amount.

  13. Re:My Phone Drinks Too Much by HopefulIntern · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would be equally worried about spilling any Bud Light into my mouth...