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Oracle v. Google Trial On Indefinite Hold
symbolset writes "The trial in which Oracle is suing Google over Android has been put on indefinite hold by the trial judge, until Oracle comes up with a credible methodology for figuring alleged damages. The trial was planned to start on or after March 19."
Because I just got it!
What other proof do you need???
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er... The judges decision, not the IP.
Having to work for a living is the root of all evil.
"For this “delay,” Oracle has no one to blame but itself, given that twice now it has advanced improper methodologies obviously calculated to reach stratospheric numbers." - Judge Alsup He isn't pulling any punches, is he?
Credible Methodology? That doesn't stop the MPAA/RIAA....
From TFA:
After seeing these filings I can't help but note the irony (and hubris) of a company choosing to name itself Oracle when it seems to be incapable of "giving wise or authoritative decisions or opinions."
Is Groklaw usually this funny?
Now that their primary purpose for buying Sun's Java technology is no longer useful to them, ie leveraging Java as a way of extorting profits, will Ellison abandon Java? Both are costing him a lot of money without material benefit. At some point will he give up the ghost and just abandon the whole thing or will he keep pumping money into it, hoping against hope to hit pay dirt?
I keep a tab open to Groklaw to see what's going on over there. It's always very interesting. The coverage of this and other cases are interesting and entertaining.
Most of us are rooting 'against Oracle' in this case I believe. It would not be fair to say rooting for Google in this case because I don't. I have an interest in Android on phones, tablets and more recently, cameras. But I don't root for Google because I don't like what they are. Maybe it doesn't make sense to most people here, but I dislike modern marketing and advertising techniques and methods. Google is 'nice' and quite generous to its users, but in the end, they are what they are you know?
On the other hand, Oracle is a large, ugly, greedy, behemoth and I would love to see them disappear. In practice, I avoid products that use and especially those that require I buy Oracle licenses for anything. I do not hold their terms to be reasonable or logical.
FTFA:
"But Google's petition to the appeals court over the email is also in the way, according to Alsup's ruling Thursday. "If Oracle will waive reliance on that email, then this roadblock would vanish," he wrote."
It's interesting to me that the judge is the one assisting in negotiations between Oracle and Google instead of general counsel. It seems obvious to Alsup even before trial that neither the clumsy infringer nor the litigious patent troll will otherwise meet in the middle.
What? What kind of judge doesn't impose ex recto damages? What planet is he from?
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"For this 'delay,' Oracle has no one to blame but itself, given that twice now it has advanced improper methodologies obviously calculated to reach stratospheric numbers,"
"stratospheric numbers" for the rest of the world is pocket change to Larry.
Android made Java relevant in the mobile smartphone revolution. J2ME is so 1999.
As such, Android is good business for Oracle. They should strike a deal where Oracle becomes a stakeholder in the Android Open Source project. The, a cross-licensing patent deal. The finally, hold hands while they piss on Jobs' memorial, and sue Apple back into the insignificance where they belong.
Oracle, why don't you come back and talk to me when you decide to stop being retarded OK?
Rather than an "indefinite on-hold period" where the lawyers are on standby, why not give them a hold period with a firm deadline (after which the case is dropped if Oracle can't produce)?
It is obvious that the fragmentation issues that continue to plague Android have contaminated the Oracle Java product and they are in the midst of getting as far away from it as possible. Why would they want to win a fight over something so fragmented? I think Eric Schmidt said it best when he admitted "We aren't doing enough to reduce the [fragmentation problem] in Android". Well, his quote was pretty close to that so who cares?
Yours in shillville...
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OF COURSE, BONCH!
"that's my methodology, judge. got any cash? hand it over. I've got a devil beard and I'm impatient."
perhaps the judge should declare Java free to all birds, beasts, and men of good character in the realm.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Who is holding their iPhone wrong?
Can we get some Matrix Analogies?
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
"After seeing these filings I can't help but note the irony (and hubris) of a company choosing to name itself Oracle when it seems to be incapable of "giving wise or authoritative decisions or opinions."
Will
Larry: I hold up my pinky, and it tells me the number. Like a fucking oracle, it is.
What is the total amount of damages from something you in no way make money from? $0 duh>
The inflated damage amount was calculated by Professor Cockburn.
Obi-Wan: "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were sudden