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Teens Share Passwords As a Form of Intimacy

nonprofiteer writes "The New York Times claims that the hot new trend among teenagers in love is to share passwords to their email and Facebook accounts, as the ultimate form of trust. According to Pew, 33% of teens surveyed say they do this. One expert says the pressure to share passwords is akin to the pressure to have sex. Forbes says don't do it! 'There is something pure and romantic about the idea of sharing everything, and having no secrets from one another. But it's romantic the same way that Romeo and Juliet is romantic, in a tragic, horrible, everyone-is-miserable-and-dies-at-the-end kind of way.' Sam Biddle at Gizmodo writes about which passwords are okay to share (like Netflix), but says to stay away from handing over email or Facebook passwords. 'We all need whatever scraps of privacy we have left, and your email is just that.'"

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  1. You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're just a jealous bitch, mom! You don't understand that Daniel and me are going to last FOREVER!! I HATE YOU!!! I HATE YOU!!

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    1. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Honey, he just wants to sleep with you to get your password. Just give him a blow job and leave him. That'll show him!"

    2. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Clearly her password is "omgi3>daniel"

    3. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by forkfail · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Two coming of age talks:

      1. The birds and the bees.

      2. Internet security.

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    4. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, with the internet maybe she will update you on the birds and bees

    5. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why not combine the two into one grand talk?

      OK, you're 14 now, it is time for us to talk about a few things. If you have sex with someone, use a condom, and make sure you do not sign their public key unless you really trust them.

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    6. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Pope · · Score: 5, Funny

      OK, you're 14 now, it is time for us to talk about a few things. If you have sex with someone, use a condom, and make sure you do not sign their public key unless you really trust them.

      Why does this sound like an XKCD comic?

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    7. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just let her browse internet porn on an unpatched version of Windows XP so you won't have to say a word. And remember: the best kind of parenting is lazy parenting.

    8. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by jgtg32a · · Score: 4, Informative

      Of course
      http://xkcd.com/364/

  2. Netflix by ShakaUVM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wait, it's okay to share your Netflix password...?

    I can think of at least three reasons why that's a bad idea.

    1. Re:Netflix by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no real positive here. This is just like sending naked photos of yourself to your bf/gf. It makes no damn sense to *give* someone blackmail material on you that can be copied easily and posted for the whole world to see if they get pissed at you. They do it because there is the short term feeling of trust shared between them, but with no conception of the long term consequences involved. In a way it's like the Romeo and Juliet syndrome: even though we have never had another relationship, we know we are perfect for one another, so you're not allowed to take any precautions, because otherwise it means you don't actually love me. You have to go whatever extreme I do, because we are in True Love, whether that be giving away passwords or committing suicide.

      tl;dr: Teens think because they know more than babies do that they know everything. They haven't got a clue.

    2. Re:Netflix by sourcerror · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Everyone thinks they know everything except geniuses.

    3. Re:Netflix by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no real positive here. This is just like sending naked photos of yourself to your bf/gf. It makes no damn sense to *give* someone blackmail material on you that can be copied easily and posted for the whole world to see if they get pissed at you.

      You can't think of a single positive benefit of getting your partner sexually aroused looking at you? You don't think there's any relationship saved, intensified or even started by receiving or having erotic pictures of your partner? Long-distance relationships, temporary absences, love letters with a picture saying more than a thousand words? People have done that since the 19th century you know, shortly since they invented photography. Okay be the cynic and say the benefits don't outweigh the risks, particularly now that it can go all over the Internet but you'd be pretty blind to not see how it could help in courting women.

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  3. Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not sure why this is news. There's a reason your record is expunged when you turn 18. Perhaps the same should apply to online accounts.

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    1. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It isnt expunged when you turn 18. It is sealed but still exists and can be accessed depending on the circumstance.

    2. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Teens do a lot of dumb stuff

      Yeah but there is a difference between normal teen stuff like having unprotected sex and stuff that can cause serious harm in their later life like sharing passwords.

    3. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 5, Funny

      When I was a Teen, and I shared my Password as a form of intimacy I would have gotten a response at best "Your such a Nerd!" (Back then a Nerd wasn't good)

      Yeah. Offering Sysop access to my dialup BBS never got me laid.

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    4. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What stops you from changing password upon break-up?

      What stops you is the other person logging in and changing your password before you can.

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    5. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by sirlark · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It doesn't matter if your crimila/government records are sealed, expunged or otherwise made unavailable. Your facebook account, and your friends and ex-friends facebook accounts still exist. And those compromising photos too...

  4. XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    XKCD covered this years ago http://xkcd.com/215/

    1. Re:XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      you realize there is additional text when you hover the mouse over the picture right?

    2. Re:XKCD by ciderbrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Shh, they'll have to go back and read 1005 of them!

  5. I can't remember my husband's passwords by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And vice versa. He's a number guy, I'm a language person. So his passwords are long strings of numbers, and mine are long strings of words and symbols.

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    1. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 4, Insightful

      She's married, asshole. And if she weren't, I'm sure she didn't come to Slashdot to be facetiously and pseudonymously hit on.

    2. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 4, Funny

      My gallantry is bigger.

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  6. Can we just encourage old vices instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd much rather my kids be having sex than sharing passwords.

  7. Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by davidwr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember kiddies, using your ex-boyfriend's social networking password can be a felony!

    Heck, even using your current boyfriend's passwords with his permission may be a felony in certain circumstances, especially if a financial transaction, medical-history-information, or intentional deception of anyone is involved.

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  8. Mistake in the summary by forkfail · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'We all need an illusion of whatever scraps of privacy we have left, and your email is just that.'"

    Because we sure as hell don't have any privacy left anymore.

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    Check your premises.
  9. Re:TOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Exactly this. Post all over your Facebook account that you share all your passwords with your BF/GF then see how quickly your credit card company does the weasel dance if you ever have to make a claim for identity fraud. For my sins I did a couple of months working on phone support for the company that supports several large banks/CC companies and their policy was an instant "sorry, goodbye" if you suggested you'd shared your login details or pin number (your heart would sink when they admitted they lost their wallet and their card was in there along with their pin number scribbled on a post-it).

  10. Children acting childish... by JustinOpinion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Giving out your password as a demonstration of trust is just silly. I trust my boss with work-related things, but that doesn't mean I give him the passwords to all the servers at work. Why? He doesn't need them. I trust my mom, but I don't give her my bank PIN. Why? She doesn't need it. I trust my girlfriend but I don't give her my gmail password. Why? Because she has no use for it. The difference between strangers and people I trust is that I ~would~ give friends/family secret credentials, if there was a valid need (e.g. I was sick and needed my girlfriend to perform a financial transaction for me). But giving out the details just for fun is illogical, and insecure.

    Moreover, it's more a manifestation of a lack of trust. I don't care that I don't know my girlfriend's Facebook password... because I trust her. The only boyfriends/girlfriends who want each other's passwords are those who don't trust each other: they want to check up on what the other one is posting/saying. They don't trust them enough to let them have privacy or private conversations. I've seen this happen (my sister once had a jealous boyfriend who thought she was cheating on him and thus demanded access to her email and Facebook passwords so that he could check for himself... the relationship did not last).

    Overall, this whole "if you loved me you'd give me your password" is infantile. The appropriate response is: "If you respected me you wouldn't ask for it."

    1. Re:Children acting childish... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem there is you just posited a perfectly reasonable adult argument.

      Teenager brains don't (typically) work that way. There still viewing the world through a flood of hormones and lack of experience.

      In the perfect world, we would come up with a system to allow the teenager brain to interact with the real world without too many bad outcomes.

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    2. Re:Children acting childish... by pclminion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That would be the difference between A asking B for their password, and B offering A their password. The first instance is a sign of distrust. The second is a sign of trust.

      No, the second is a sign of a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of healthy human relationships, trust, and individuality. It is pure co-dependence. It's a form of emotional hedging which leads to emotional blackmail -- "I gave you my PASSWORDS! How can you DO this to me!"

      It's kids being naive stupid fucks, that's all.

      I used to keep two very big secrets from my wife. Those secrets put a terrible strain on our relationship. Eventually, I came out with it, I was met with understanding and forgiveness, and our relationship improved tremendously. I now hold no secrets from my wife, but I sure as hell do not give her my passwords nor does she give me mine. It has nothing to do with trust, it is about PRIVACY. If she wants to know something about me she can always ASK ME.

    3. Re:Children acting childish... by houghi · · Score: 4, Funny

      I trust my boss with work-related things, but that doesn't mean I give him the passwords to all the servers at work. Why? He doesn't need them.

      When I explain new staff about our security policies, I explain them not to give anybody their password. They say OK. Then I say "Not even to me." They start to look a bit worried. Then I say "Not even to the CEO" and then they get confused.

      When I say "Not even to the IT guy who is repairing your PC" they are completely baffled and stare at me as if I am sore sort of drugs.

      Mmm. Perhaps I must try it out and ask after a week or so if they don't give me the password they are fired. See if they give it or not.

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      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  11. At least..... by SwedishChef · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least you can change the password... pretty hard to return virginity.

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  12. Not in dipshit Tennenesse! by earls · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a serious crime in TN! Don't get caught, lovers!

  13. Re:Savages by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men."
    Ayn Rand

    Sounds like that woman had a lot of issues. Hope everything worked out for her.

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  14. My ex wanted this. by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She wanted to monitor my email and everything. Very nosy. I refused and she bitched about not trusting me. Turns out she was a cheating whore and just assumed that I had to be getting some on the side as well. She needed to verify because she could not trust because she was herself untrustworthy and insecure about it. Sharing passwords does not show trust, it shows lack of trust.

    1. Re:My ex wanted this. by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have learned this same lesson but not quite as painfully.

      A thief thinks everyone else steals.
      A manipulator thinks everyone else manipulates.
      An adulterer thinks everyone else cheats.

      I'm sure the reason is part rationalization, part acting out whatever misbehavior caused them to develop those harmful habits.

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  15. Re:Forbes says don't do it! by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Teens that read Forbes probably have neither the time nor the ability to forge an intimate enough relationship in the first place

  16. my wife and I do this by CAIMLAS · · Score: 5, Funny

    My wife and I do this. I keep her passwords on a sheet of paper in the safe. She reads mine before going to bed every night (I believe she's on chapter 2, "Routers and Switches").

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  17. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by Nationless · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damnit, I was planning on watching Die Hard this weekend.

    Now it looks like I don't have to.

    Jerk.

  18. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Funny

    Socrates gave us a point of view in that "True wisdom is knowing that you know nothing".

    However, this comes from a man who's last words were "I drank what?!"

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