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US Losing R&D Dominance To Asia?

bednarz writes "U.S. companies are locating more of their R&D operations overseas, and Asian countries are rapidly increasing investments in their own science and technology economies, the National Science Board said in a report released this week. The number of overseas researchers employed by U.S. multinationals nearly doubled from 138,000 in 2004 to 267,000 in 2009, for example. On the education front, the U.S. accounts for just 4% of undergraduate engineering degrees awarded globally, compared to China (34%), Japan (5%), and India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand (17% collectively). 'The low U.S. share of global engineering degrees in recent years is striking; well above half of all such degrees are awarded in Asia,' NSB said in its report."

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  1. americans don't care about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The low U.S. share of global engineering degrees in recent years is striking

    Americans don't want to learn science and engineering, because it's hard. It takes years of extremely hard work.

    I went through university with a business major. I saw the kind of work he did because he was asking me for tutoring help; the "hard" things he was learning were unbelievably trivial. I'd estimate his degree was a factor of 50 easier than mine; I could have taken all his classes, not studied for shit, and come out with straight A's, all with less effort than I was spending on a single difficult engineering class.

    Of course, he now makes more than I do. So why on earth would anyone want to go through what I did, when you could go through the far, far easier thing HE did, and be more financially rewarded for it?

    In the end American's lack of interest in science, technology, math, and engineering will sink the ship. You cannot compete in today's global world unless you (as a people) understand how that modern world works, and Americans don't wish to understand, because it's hard work. You reap what you sow. I've been saying this for the last 30 years, and now here we are, going down in flames to better educated countries. Surprise surprise. I used to give a shit, but then I learned there was nothing I could do to make people care, so I just gave up. No point in getting upset over it. I'm resigned to my country falling out of its former place as the world powerhouse of science and engineering. In the 50's, 60's, it was very much the USA, and everyone else a distant second. Now, that's reversing. So be it.

  2. No surprise by ironjaw33 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have a relative who works as a researcher for a major drug company. She had to move laterally in the company after they announced they were moving all new drug discovery work to China.

    As a senior Computer Science PhD student, this has me worried. I also know of a few recent American CS graduates that have gone to China to work as researchers for a particular American software company because that company's US research offices weren't hiring. I still know plenty of other graduates who had no difficulty finding research positions in the US, but it seems that a few major players are shifting their work to Asia. Hopefully the rest won't follow.

  3. Re:Sensationalist crap by Vijaysj · · Score: 4, Informative
    Comparing apples and Oranges here.... A degree from MIT, Berkeley or Stanford is not the same as an equivalent named degree from a community college.
    Indians have the following Option's for Higher Education.
    • 1. Get a scholarship seat at Central Institutes a.k.a free seat (The competition is extremely High e.g. MDS in AIIMS has 15000+ people competing for 2 or 3 seats)
    • 2. Get a scholarship seat at State college or private Institutes (The number of people competing is in the same ballpark the number of seats are around 20)
    • 3. Get your degree in some Institute abroad (UK, US, Australia & NZ are currently the hot destinations. This is considered to be the easiest option and is typically the response of the Upper class when they cannot compete in #1 & #2 and in some cases this is cheaper than #5)
    • 4. Get a non-scholarship seat at one of the private Institute.
    • 5. Get your degree in a private institute by paying a huge donation (a.k.a Management Quota)

    Typically if you have outsources your "Low skill high effort" work you are working with someone from Category 4 & 5 who could not get work in the "High skill" sector.

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