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Nano-Scale Terahertz Antenna May Make Tricorders Real

MrSeb writes "Researchers from Imperial College London and A*STAR in Singapore have shown off a terahertz antenna that's just 100 nanometers across — about 30,000 times smaller than existing terahertz antennae — and two orders of magnitude stronger than other T-ray beam-forming techniques. T-rays are a lot like EHF (extremely high frequency), which is used by millimeter wave scanners in airports, medical imaging, and emerging wireless networking standards like WiGig — but stronger, faster, and more detailed. Where EHF radiation can see through your clothes, T-rays can penetrate a few millimeters of skin. Furthermore, because atoms and molecules have a unique terahertz-range signature, T-ray scanners can detect toxic substances, bombs, drugs — or even cancerous tumors under your skin. Most importantly, though, due to the nano scale of these antennae, it's possible to create huge antennae arrays on a single silicon chip, meaning hand-held T-ray scanners are now a possibility. In the not so distant future, every household might have a Star Trek-like tricorder capable of detecting cancer or other diseases."

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  1. Detecting Cancer....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    or giving it to us.

    1. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by Moheeheeko · · Score: 2
    2. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by Mitchell314 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Given that Tetrahertz is mostly infrared (or visible towards the gigahertz magnitude), you'd be hard pressed to give anything cancer.

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    3. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by stanlyb · · Score: 1

      When you said "hard pressed", did you mean it "literally"?

    4. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by Mitchell314 · · Score: 2

      Well, you'd be more crushed than cancerous if it was literal. Which makes sense if you are trying to crush cancer, figuratively speaking.

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    5. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by stanlyb · · Score: 1

      But if you keep in mind that this terahertz waves are able to penetrate even the skin some millimeters, my question becomes more literal.

    6. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      or somehow banned for personal ownership by the pharmaceutical companies.

    7. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by root_42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Given that Tetrahertz is mostly infrared (or visible towards the gigahertz magnitude), you'd be hard pressed to give anything cancer.

      First, it's Terahertz, and second: no, not visible when it goes down to Gigahertz. Gigahertz waves are Microwaves, and hence far from being visible. Terahertz waves are in order of 1mm or smaller, approaching the infrared. Safety limits for radiation exposure of Terahertz waves are still being researched upon, though.

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    8. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I don't know why I wrote giga, I was thinking of 10^14 - 10^15.

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    9. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by nazsco · · Score: 1

      > exposure of Terahertz waves are still being researched upon

      thanks for airport security and frequent flyers, i will know if tricoders are safe in a month or so.

    10. Re:Detecting Cancer....... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Are they safer than Krieger waves?

  2. Change last sentence by Exitar · · Score: 3, Funny

    into "In the not so distant future, every household might have a Star Trek-like tricorder capable of giving you cancer or other diseases."

    1. Re:Change last sentence by gciochina · · Score: 1

      congratulations OP you sound just like CNN!! lol

    2. Re:Change last sentence by radtea · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "In the not so distant future, every household might have a Star Trek-like tricorder capable of giving you cancer or other diseases."

      That's the misinformation the medical establishment would like promulgated, so thanks for getting a jump on it.

      It's really important that technology like this be seen as "potentially dangerous" so it's use can be restricted to highly paid professionals whose business model requires such legal limitations "for your own safety."

      There is exactly zero evidence, for example, that diagnostic ultrasound carries any risks, but there are still limitations on its use (you can buy your own unit but can't use it on people unless you're a trained, insured, highly paid professional.)

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    3. Re:Change last sentence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There is exactly zero evidence, for example, that diagnostic ultrasound carries any risks, but there are still limitations on its use (you can buy your own unit but can't use it on people unless you're a trained, insured, highly paid professional.)

      Nope. I can use my ultrasound unit on anybody I want, I just can't offer an interpretation/diagnoses. That would be practicing medicine.

    4. Re:Change last sentence by amRadioHed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is exactly zero evidence, for example, that diagnostic ultrasound carries any risks, but there are still limitations on its use (you can buy your own unit but can't use it on people unless you're a trained, insured, highly paid professional.)

      The risk of some untrained people using diagnostic ultrasound is that they may tell someone with cancer that they don't see anything to worry about.

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    5. Re:Change last sentence by squizzar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Surely some of that protectionism is in the public interest, since those trained, insured, professionals actually know what they are looking at (and when they get it wrong they have liability insurance). Look at all the wonky alternative medicine that's already out there and tell me you want to create an industry of people with legitimate diagnostic equipment that don't know how to correctly gather or interpret the results from those machines and then using them to diagnose people with all manner of nasty things that they probably don't have.

    6. Re:Change last sentence by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      The wonky alternative medicine people already found ways to skirt the law by the use of contradictory statements: It's medicine when they want it to be, but isn't when they do not.

    7. Re:Change last sentence by na1led · · Score: 1

      I'm sure your doing more harm to your body with the foods you eat!

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    8. Re:Change last sentence by yndrd1984 · · Score: 1

      >>There is exactly zero evidence, for example, that diagnostic ultrasound carries any risks, but there are still limitations on its use (you can buy your own unit but can't use it on people unless you're a trained, insured, highly paid professional.)

      >The risk of some untrained people using diagnostic ultrasound is that they may tell someone with cancer that they don't see anything to worry about.

      Good point. Now what are we to do about the risk of an untrained person looking at a person with cancer and telling them that they look fine? What about psychics that tell parents that they see a long life ahead of their child, so they shouldn't bother taking them to a hospital no matter how sick he looks?

    9. Re:Change last sentence by meltyman2 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for protecting me nanny state! Couldn't have done it on my own.

    10. Re:Change last sentence by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      The difference is the whole point of diagnostic ultrasound is to diagnose people. Get it? It's right there in the name. If you are untrained and diagnosing things that is dangerous, and if you are using a big expensive machine to diagnose people instead of just looking at them it is more dangerous because the machine may give you unwarranted credibility.

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    11. Re:Change last sentence by squizzar · · Score: 1

      OP Said you could buy the machine, you just couldn't use it on other people. You're welcome to use it on yourself. I'm sure you can buy surgical instruments and hack yourself apart if you want, but I think it's best if you are suitably trained before you do it to others. If all regulation from government is symptomatic of a nanny state then you make the term meaningless. Every road sign is nannying you by that logic.

    12. Re:Change last sentence by yndrd1984 · · Score: 1

      If you are untrained and diagnosing things that is dangerous, ...
      ... and the mature, responsible way to deal with that danger is to lie about it (or 'misrepresent' things)? Do you often lie and fear-monger in order to manipulate people into doing what you want?

      The difference is the whole point of diagnostic ultrasound is to diagnose people. Get it? It's right there in the name.
      So we rename it 'tissue-imaging ultrasound'. Since 'diagnostic' wouldn't be in the name anymore, it's now OK to let people use it. Right?

      ... it is more dangerous because the machine may give you unwarranted credibility.
      So does a stethoscope, and I don't think those are banned yet.

  3. But will they make me breakfast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Come on if you are going to be cooking my gonads the least you can do is make me breakfast too...

    1. Re:But will they make me breakfast by cc1984_ · · Score: 1

      I think you'd want a replicator to do that.

    2. Re:But will they make me breakfast by xstonedogx · · Score: 2

      One order of juevos coming up!

    3. Re:But will they make me breakfast by Zaldarr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

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    4. Re:But will they make me breakfast by couchslug · · Score: 2

      "Come on if you are going to be cooking my gonads the least you can do is make me breakfast too..."

      One order Mountain Oysters coming up!

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    5. Re:But will they make me breakfast by XanC · · Score: 1

      What the hell is up with the bold text throughout your comment?

    6. Re:But will they make me breakfast by mspohr · · Score: 1

      I think you mean huevos - egg or testicle.

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    7. Re:But will they make me breakfast by the_other_chewey · · Score: 2

      What the hell is up with the bold text throughout your comment?

      He's probably a professional comic letterer.

  4. Every household? by singingjim1 · · Score: 2

    Awesome! It'll be my next purchase right after I get my flying car!

    1. Re:Every household? by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      If apple includes the hardware into the next version of iPhone, it would be trivial to create the software necessary to interoperate the scanning results. For that matter, throw in this technology for Droids phones too.

      Imagine the near endless possibilities. Software that will pick up increased pheromone for that nifty little dating app. Or how about one that allows parents to sniff out pot stashes or monitor other illegal forms of drug abuse. Maybe you're a gold prospector in Alaska. Yup, there's an app for that too.

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  5. Argh by INT+21h · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you meant *medical* tricorder, why didn't you say *medical* tricorder? There's a difference, ya'know.

    1. Re:Argh by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      What? I'm missing your point.

      Anyway: The airport scanners have been banned in the EU due to potential skin cancer risks. I see the terahertz scanners to be a non-starter that will be banned for the same reason.

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    2. Re:Argh by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      Backscatter X-ray scanners have been banned in Europe. Europe decided to use only millimetre wave scanners.

    3. Re:Argh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      TTerahertz scanners have not been banned, it's just been decided that they are ineffective and slow at the current level of technology. Out of curiosity, I went through one of those scanners once (it was optional at the airport), and the sole reason why I never went there again was that it took 10 times longer to scan someone than with a conventional arrangment. If these scanners were mandatory, everyone would need to come 4 hours before the flight on monday mornings and friday evenings just to get through the security check in time.

    4. Re:Argh by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Star Trek doesn't just have 'a' tricorder. There are two classes commonly seen. A general-purpose tricorder (The thing you see them waving around on away missions) and a more specialised medical tricorder (Found in sickbay, and carried by one member only of an away team). The general purpose model has very limited medical functions, and the medical one has very limited general-purpose functions. If it can detect cancer, it should be called a medical tricorder, not just a tricorder.

    5. Re:Argh by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      Oh. And here I thought they were just blocks of wood with paint on them. ;-)

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    6. Re:Argh by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      No doubt. Imagine my disappointment when I realized I'd not be able to detect energy signature anomolies or approaching weather patterns in real-time, nevermind being able to find things like rare-earth deposits or the massive diamond ring dropped during a bonfire in the back lot last fall.

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    7. Re:Argh by Ruie · · Score: 1

      No reason we can't improve on it.

  6. Prediction by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

    I predict this: should such technology be realized, it will be illegal for ordinary citizens to use it (except as part of carefully restricted appliances), but the police will use it to scan all of us as we walk around.

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    1. Re:Prediction by Khyber · · Score: 1

      I already have the capability of generating 200-800 THz radiation.

      In fact, you can buy such emitters directly from the top link in my signature.

      D'oh.

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  7. Just another way to get genital cancer by chrisphotonic · · Score: 1

    I love the idea of a tricorder, but please, invent something that is PASSIVE.

    1. Re:Just another way to get genital cancer by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why? Do you dislike flashlights too?

    2. Re:Just another way to get genital cancer by zeroeth · · Score: 1

      "I love the idea of a tricorder, but please, invent something that is PASSIVE."

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      #include <stdio>
      #include "acpi/dilithium.h"
      #include "sf/medical/diseases.h"
      #include "sf/shared/science/scanner.h"

      int main(void) {
        scan_for("Cancer");
        printf("You have cancer!");
      }

    3. Re:Just another way to get genital cancer by chrisphotonic · · Score: 1

      Why? Do you dislike flashlights too?

      Flashlights sure. Fluoroscopes not so much.

      I was hoping for some thermal scanner to detect cancer...oh wait, they already have that.

    4. Re:Just another way to get genital cancer by chrisphotonic · · Score: 1

      lol

      I agree. They are missing:

      if( scan_for("Cancer") )
      {
      printf("You have cancer!");
      }
      else
      {
      printf("We just gave you cancer! Your odds were 1/50 per x-ray when functioning normally, and we didn't calibrate the machine properly. Your the NON-winner!");
      }

    5. Re:Just another way to get genital cancer by mcavic · · Score: 1

      Obviously. But you're missing some rather important libraries.

  8. there's still no cure for cancer by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So pretty soon, your cell phone will not only be able to give you cancer, it will also be able to tell you that you have cancer, too! All they need is an app to cure it next! I see a tremendous marketing opportunity here!

    1. Re:there's still no cure for cancer by littlewink · · Score: 1

      Just like the credit bureaus!

  9. Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation

    1. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by mcavic · · Score: 1

      EM radiation can give you cancer too. It's all a question of dosage.

    2. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by ericloewe · · Score: 1

      By what mechanism exactly?

    3. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by mcavic · · Score: 2

      I'm not a physicist, and there isn't complete agreement on this issue anyway, but I'm pointing to these:
      http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/03/nyregion/connecticut-is-first-state-to-bar-hand-held-radar-guns.html
      http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/radiofrequencyradiation/fnradpub.html#results1

      And you can ask someone who works with microwave communication what the known dangers are. If the EM spectrum is arranged in order of danger, then IR would be more dangerous than microwave, not less.

    4. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      If non-ionizing radiation was so safe, you wouldn't be able to cook stuff with it.

      If I regularly heat your tissues to more than 60 degrees C what makes you so sure that won't increase your chances of getting cancer?

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    5. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by Boycott+BMG · · Score: 1

      Does this mean that heat causes cancer? We better get all those restaurant cooks in the kitchen some hazard pay!

      That was sarcasm, btw. I don't think that heat causes cancer.

    6. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      you REALLY don't know how microwave ovens work, do you?

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    7. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Does this mean that heat causes cancer?

      It can increase the chances of cancer. It depends on the temperature, and which part of the body you heat.

      You'd be very stupid and ignorant to think that heat cannot damage DNA and that only ionizing radiation can do it.

      DNA and other parts of the cells will be affected by high temperatures. If you don't believe me, stick your hand in boiling water and send the results for lab analysis.

      If you are not an adult please get the permission of your legal guardian first (e.g. mom/dad).

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    8. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Based on your reply I probably know and understand a lot more than you do. Microwave ovens use non-ionizing radiation to cook foods. That's why I said what I said.

      High temperatures can certainly denature DNA in flesh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denaturation_(biochemistry)#Nucleic_acid_denaturation

      Smart people have already worked out roughly how much heat it takes:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleic_acid_thermodynamics#Methods_for_estimating_melting_temperatures

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    9. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by Boycott+BMG · · Score: 1

      If that were true then the US state of Hawaii would have more cancer than the US state of Washington. We find that is not the case. I have never heard anyone suggest that heat could contribute to cancer. If you look at the statistics at the CDC, there doesn't seem to be any correlation of colder climates to less cancers. Where are you getting your information?

    10. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      As I said temperature is important. Stick your hand in warm water, nothing much happens to your hand. stick your hand in boiling water, something happens.

      Don't believe me, try it out yourself, you can get that information in the kitchen directly for yourself.

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    11. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by Boycott+BMG · · Score: 1

      So you are suggesting that people who get scalded more often have a higher incidence of cancer? Basically anyone who works in a kitchen should have higher rates of cancer than the general population, is that what you are suggesting?

    12. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Depends on where they get scalded and how.

      There have been studies that indicate that drinking liquids that are too hot increase the chances of getting esophageal cancer, and that the temperature makes a difference.
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2773211/
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11058886

      BUT serious-burn victims have had lower rates of skin cancer: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17028504

      Anyway, the AC I was replying to was implying that only ionizing radiation can increase cancer rates. That's just wrong. The difference you'd normally notice it quickly if nonionizing radiation is damaging you[1].

      Lastly, there are plenty of other things that increase cancer rates that do not involve ionizing radiation or breaking of molecular bonds breaking. Otherwise stuff like BPA wouldn't be increasing cancer rates. So thinking it's all so simple is ridiculous.

      [1] FWIW exposing yourself to high dose nonionizing radiation (e.g. standing in front of very high powered radars or lasers[2]) reduces your odds of dying of cancer. Because you are likely to die from being cooked/burnt/"holed" first ;)

      [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_High_Energy_Laser

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    13. Re:Ring ring, this is the clue phone. by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      (without googleing it) microwaves use non ionizing radiation to excite water molecules, which in turn creates heat, which cooks food. But i suppose you know that. However, your saying that 'Non ionizing radiation cooks food' is a bit disingenuous, as it implies a direct interaction which does not exist. My apologies for my previous condescending tone.
      Now, I'm not even going to pretend to understand the math that you linked to, but i will make this comment:
      seeing as DNA seems to survive pretty well at 37.5 C, the 'high temperatures' referred to therein must be above that by some fair amount. It has been my experience that, when exposed to temperatures much above say, 50 C, i tend to seek means by which to no longer expose myself to such temperatures, as it is wildly uncomfortable. If Terahertz radiation created this, or a even higher temperatures within living flesh when exposed to it, i suspect their usage time would be measurable only in the seconds before the target attempted to kill the operator.

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  10. Why is it always a medical tricorder? by ddxexex · · Score: 1

    Correct me if 'm horribly wrong, but in Star trek, even though tricorders are multipurpose sensors, there are different types of them. Like engineering tricorders or just regular tricorders. Every story I see that says tricorders seems to only refer to medical tricorders. But really, if I was given a tricorder, I'd use it for determining the spectrum usage, what kind of radiation is around me, interfacing with computers, etc...

    1. Re:Why is it always a medical tricorder? by mcavic · · Score: 1

      Sure, but while some kinds of engineering tricorders might be possible today, medicine is the killer app.

    2. Re:Why is it always a medical tricorder? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You can rent "engineering tricorders" already. Their front-page VoC detectors even look slightly like tricorders.

    3. Re:Why is it always a medical tricorder? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      You're right. There are two types: General purpose and medical. On the standard four-man away team, three will carry general-purpose tricorders and one, with specialist training, carries a medical tricorder.

      For reasons of optimal storytelling, an away team is almost always composed of four senior officers. No-one wants to watch middle-management and their flock of ensigns. If you see a non-regular character on an away mission, start placing bets on how long he'll live.

  11. Re:Tricorder? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why not? This is Slashdot, where every delusional sci-fi daydream is the equivalent of actual, real engineering. Space Elevator? Simple. Terraforming Mars? Child's play. Mining asteroids? Slam dunk! Life extension? AHHHHHH THE DEVIL!!! NO!!!!!!!!!

  12. ST:VOY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Holographic Doctor: Hand me a tricorder.
    Clueless Crewman: *hands him a tricorder*
    Holographic Doctor [annoyed]: A medical tricorder.

  13. the tech will be abused to violate privacy by gr3yh47 · · Score: 1

    ..In the not so distant future, you will be randomly searched with a tricorder in violation of your constitution rights on a regular basis

  14. Antenna length by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    Depending on the resistivity of the antenna, its length is N / 10^12 meters (or *3 in feet). For radio N is ~100. Thus a 100 nm length for a THz frequency.

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  15. Re:Silly Scale by somersault · · Score: 4, Informative

    And what does "two orders of magnitude stronger" mean?

    Around 100 time stronger.

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  16. Re:Tricorder? by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

    Summaries aren't meant to be complete explanations of everything you need to know. They're meant to be short. If you don't understand a word, look it up on Google, Bing, Yahoo, Duck Duck Go or whatever other search engine you favor.

  17. Radiation? by jason777 · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one that still fears radiation? Or, is it ok now to just blast everybody with heavy doses? Airports, border patrol, and now from police cars. Isnt anyone else worried?

    1. Re:Radiation? by compro01 · · Score: 1

      Unless you're in a pitch black room, you're currently being blasted by terahertz radiation. 1-400 THz is IR. 400-700THz is visible light.

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    2. Re:Radiation? by Gilmoure · · Score: 2

      Damn it! They should be working on getting rid of the Sun!

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    3. Re:Radiation? by fotbr · · Score: 2

      Well, that would certainly put and end to global warming.

    4. Re:Radiation? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      It depends on the type, frequency, and power. You wouldn't want to stand in front of a radar antenna, people have been fried doing that, but your cell phone won't hurt you. OTOH even very low doses of gamma radiation will do you in.

  18. Scariest thing in Star Trek by Junta · · Score: 2

    The ship's computer would always oblige when asked where to find a crewman.

    "Computer, locate Ensign Smith"
    "Ensign Smith is currently in Holodeck 3 running his porn program again"

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    1. Re:Scariest thing in Star Trek by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it be worse if the computer could not find each crewman?

      The computer has control over probably every part of the ship so the computer needs to know where each person is for security issues as well as environmental concerns.

      Remember, the Enterprise wasn't a cruise ship, it was a military vessel.

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    2. Re:Scariest thing in Star Trek by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Computer, locate the Captain.

      The Captain is currently in a lifeboat, approximately 2 miles distant from the ship, with a young blond lady, and a lobster dinner.

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    3. Re:Scariest thing in Star Trek by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Did anyone of low rank ever try that? It might be a function limited to senior officers, who have an obvious need to access that type of information for reasons of ship security.

    4. Re:Scariest thing in Star Trek by kryliss · · Score: 2

      Don't forget that the Captain tripped into the life boat with the young blonde lady..

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  19. No tricorder in the future. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    There is no money to be made by early detection and early treatment. Medical industry loves chronic diseases like diabetes and hypertension that require a steady stream of patented drugs to be continuously consumed with a steady monetized revenue stream. Tricorder, early detection, bah! humbug. Free markets and unfettered capitalism will take you there. Solution is not socialism but fettered capitalism and fostering competition. But don't hold your breath waiting for it, because the fox is guarding the henhouse.

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    1. Re:No tricorder in the future. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      Hey, hey, hey, you don't have unfettered capitalism. We in America are proud to have unfettered capitalism. All our corporations, which are really people, are unfettered. America has the best freedom and liberty money can buy. What? You don't have the money to buy your freedom? mmm. we have heard that kind of talk before. Tough luck buddy. BTW, what happens when people who are at the receiving end of these corporations decide to find, mm, eh, second amendment remedies against the corporations?

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    2. Re:No tricorder in the future. by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

      There is money to be made by early detection and early treatment. Medical industry loves testinf for chronic diseases that require a steady stream of patented technology to be continuously performed with a steady monetized revenue stream. Assuming tricorders would be patented, and require a professional license to interpret the readouts...

      "Socialists OR Capitalists, you must decide" Nope. This isn't a false dichotomy zone. Socialist constructs such as unions and GOVERNMENTS BY AND FOR THE PEOPLE work hand in hand with Capitalist constructs like free markets. It's when either begins morphing into the other that we have problems, Corporations influencing Governments & Buying laws, Corrupted Unions that needlessly throw their weight around.

      As in all things the absolute extremes are uninhabitable; Moderation is key.

    3. Re:No tricorder in the future. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      As in all things the absolute extremes are uninhabitable; Moderation is key.

      I agree with you, but pl do realize you will be denounced as a redistributionphilic socialist by the Republicans and the Tea party. Anything less than unfettered capitalism is socialism in their book. Crony capitalism, trusts, cartels, monopolies are all A-OK for them while even minimal disclosure requirements like truth-in-lending, truth-in-advertisement are labeled onerous burden and over regulation by the government.

      If you are a free market believing Republican please rescue it from its captors who have kidnapped it and holding it for ransom.

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    4. Re:No tricorder in the future. by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      ...making sure people aren't sick is much more profitable.

      I would say it's less costly, not more profitable.

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    5. Re:No tricorder in the future. by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      the first step in correcting misperception is to realize that corporations are an extension of government power, they are legal constructs created by the government in the form of a corporate charter, such constructs ought to be subject to the same constitutional restrictions as government is, in addition corporations should not have the right to challenge a law as unconstitutional any more than the department of education could challenge a law. if shareholders believed a law or regulation improperly targeted or treated a corporation they held stock in of course they, as natural persons, would have the right to challenge the law or regulation, as individuals or as a class action.

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  20. supply and demand by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > In the not so distant future, every household might have a Star Trek-like tricorder capable of detecting cancer or other diseases."

    I find that unlikely. Much more likely: Even though the device itself costs $12 to make, it will be rigidly controlled and only available at high cost (either through insurance premiums or taxes) from your health provider.

    I take one of the most common blood pressure medications available. It's so common and the quantities are so high that manufacture is cheap, so the drug is cheap. I don't even bother with insurance -- I pay cash for the drug. (Approx $20 per month.) However, I can only get it by prescription. My doctor requires monthly visits, including a blood pressure check (fairly pointless as I do it myself 3-4 times a week) and a blood test requiring lab work. After insurance, the cost to me is approx $200 a month. They keep my prescriptions on a short leash, designed to run out right at my appointment date. (Sometimes if they're busy my prescription will run out before my appointment, so when I see them I've been off the drug for 3-4 days, unless I call the office and beg for an extension.) The doctor says this is to insure that I keep my appointment. When I point out I have never missed an appointment and don't deserve to be treated like an errant child, I'm informed that all patients are treated this way.

    To recap, a common, well tested drug that costs $20 a month (cash -- no insurance) that I've been taking for years costs me $220 a month total to take due to additional visits and tests required by the doctor's office before they'll allow me to continue taking the drug. Based on this business model, even if full ST:TNG-type scanners were available for less than the price of an iPad, I strongly suspect the actual devices will be rigidly controlled by law and only available through expensive doctor's visits.

    (In December I told my doctor to shove it. I'm now shopping around for a doctor who doesn't hold my meds hostage.)

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    1. Re:supply and demand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dude, get a different doctor. Once a month might make sense when you're starting on a medication but it should quickly transition to every 90 says or more.

    2. Re:supply and demand by chrb · · Score: 2

      Like many things, medical regulations are often designed to protect the people who are unable, for whatever reason, to take care of themselves. Someone like yourself is probably responsible enough and qualified enough to handle your own medication and measurement of the side effects. However, for every responsible and educated person like yourself, there will be several people who aren't responsibile and educated enough to self-medicate. There are also many people who, in the absense of a prescription system, would accept drug advertising as fact, and proceed to self-diagnose, and then buy and apply inappropriate medications. I would like to see a system where people like yourself can opt-out and self-medicate to a large degree, but the system also needs to recognise that the majority of peole are not educated well enough to be given uncontrolled access to the contents of a modern pharmacy, and that we don't want a return to the era of unqualified quack-doctor-advertisements telling patients that random drug X will "help" cure their cancer.

      (Incidentally, I came across this interesting blog post recently : A blog in support of stupid people’s rights. The list of "stupid" people probably includes a large number of the population at some time in their lives).

    3. Re:supply and demand by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      The thing is, $20 a month is ok with me. It's down in the noise compared to my other legal expenses. It's the $200 monthly office visits that's killing my budget.

      I'm not looking for free medicine, but common, routine things like this shouldn't need constant doctor's supervision. I suspect a profit motive.

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    4. Re:supply and demand by MaerD · · Score: 1

      As someone else with high blood pressure, I have to ask: did you ever ask why the doctor is doing so much lab work?

      I don't know what medication you're on, but I know that the one I'm on requires regular checks on kidney function. A previous medication would deplete my Potassium (yay, Bananas). Now to be fair this didn't require MONTHLY checks, but I have normal kidney function and was fairly good about keeping my potassium levels up. If my kidney functions showed a little bit off, or I had some other risk factor, I wouldn't be surprised if my normal doctor visit went from 3-6 months to once a month.

      As to why they do the blood pressure check every time is simple: people lie. (After all, how many people do you think will admit honestly: "I don't bother doing this at home even though you said it was important". They'll more likely go with "I do this three or four times a week and my numbers look good")

      It's entirely possible your doctor is just milking your insurance for all he can get, but at least ask. Take control of your health and don't just be a sheep.

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    5. Re:supply and demand by DanZee · · Score: 1

      You should search for an online pharmacy in Cypress or Thailand. No prescription is necessary if you're on a typical blood pressure medication. You'll be able to handle your own health care. The medical profession has turned into a bunch of leeches trying to book as many appointments a day as possible. A typical doctor can make as much as $1000 to $2000 an hour depending on how many patients they see and what the office visit charge is. They use prescriptions to keep you coming in.

    6. Re:supply and demand by Persnickity · · Score: 1

      Or, the device will be cheap for consumer use but doctors won't believe you when you say, "My tricorder says I have cancer." They will have to follow up with a $600 scan using their own HMO approved tricorder.

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    7. Re:supply and demand by coolmoose25 · · Score: 1

      So bypass your doctor. Inhousepharmacy.biz will likely sell you your drug, probably an even cheaper version made in India, and shipped to your door. You have to sign for it, but that's it. Every once in a while, the package will get seized (although this has never happened to me) and when it does, the company ships you another batch free of charge.

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    8. Re:supply and demand by WarwickRyan · · Score: 1

      > The whole prescription thing is a racket, and both doctors and pharmacies are profitting handsomely.

      They've solved that in The Netherlands by letting the insurance companies dictate the exact drugs to be used by their patients. They make deals directly with the drugs companies for the prices, and the pharmacists have to provide their choice in drugs.

      The result: bottom line drug costs have increased substantially, forcing an inflation-busting increase in our monthly health insurance costs. At the same time, certain subsidiaries of said insurance companies are reporting massive profits thanks to large "management fees" from drugs companies.

      In the meantime the ex-health ministers who made this possible have taken up cushy consultancy / board positions at the largest insurance companies here.

      Oh, and the pharmacists have to stock a dozen makes of a drug to cover all of the insurance companies. Which has lead to a slew of pharmacy closures due to the increase in operating costs (and massive reduction in income - in the past each individual pharmacy had their own drug deals which subsidised their service - being on a smaller scale the final impact was less than what the massive insurance companies can achieve).

    9. Re:supply and demand by Lehk228 · · Score: 2

      if the end result was everyone using their walmart tricorders every month or so and cancer cases almost never getting more advanced than a few weeks before detection, that would still be enormously beneficial.

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    10. Re:supply and demand by CommieLib · · Score: 1

      In December I told my doctor to shove it. I'm now shopping around for a doctor who doesn't hold my meds hostage

      That's the key. People often have a weird authority relationship with their doctors. The reality of that relationship, at the end of the day, is that he/she is a consultant - just like the consultant you might hire to fix your sink or cut your grass - just better educated and better paid.

      I don't begrudge doctors anything they earn honestly - they went to school for ten years, for Pete's sake. But remember that they're human beings and they're made from the same crooked timber of humanity as all of us.

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    11. Re:supply and demand by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      It was part that, (checking kidney function and potassium level -- I take supplements) but they also insisted on doing a full cholesterol screen (not just the finger prick) every time I went in. I have medium high cholesterol, but a sensitivity to statins -- by the time they get to a dosage that affects my cholesterol level, I need help getting in and out of bed, and walk like an elderly man [1]. So after trying four or five statin with the same results, I've refused to take them, depending on exercise and improving diet instead of drugs. (The blood pressure medicine doesn't appear to have side effects, so I'm happy to take that.)

      Despite this, they insist on doing the screen on every monthly visit, which is one of the reasons the price is so high. The issue is, they'll cut me off from the blood pressure medication if I don't come in monthly for the blood test, despite the fact I'm not taking the statins anymore.

      [1] When I see an elderly man shuffling along taking tiny uncertain steps, I have to wonder if it's really his age or his medication that makes him walk like that.

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    12. Re:supply and demand by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, if it ever gets to that. I just have a feeling that the medical community won't allow us regular citizens to own such devices.

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    13. Re:supply and demand by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Sadly, that appears to be the case. Towards the end, I started fighting back. When my blood pressure refill was denied, I called the office the next morning and canceled my appointment. Then -- wait for it -- the nurse practitioner would call back in an hour or two, scold me, and attempt to make a new appointment. I'd do it on the condition that they allow the refill. Had to do that twice last year. But it was still too much money. And as someone else said, I don't begrudge doctors making money, if it's done legitimately, but it seemed like I was trapped in the role of abused spouse.

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  21. They can detect everything! by XrayJunkie · · Score: 1

    "Captain, the tricorder shows a disturbance in the force."

  22. IF You Have Nothing To Hide by NEDHead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why are you wearing clothes?

    1. Re:IF You Have Nothing To Hide by NEDHead · · Score: 2

      When I go out naked my wife makes fun of me

    2. Re:IF You Have Nothing To Hide by VJmes · · Score: 1

      Who says I am?

    3. Re:IF You Have Nothing To Hide by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      When I go out naked my wife makes fun of me

      Weird. She doesn't mind seeing me naked.

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  23. re: radiation by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    I think the radiation issue referred to by many responders is a little exaggerated. It's not like you will get scanned routinely. ('For instance, every time you step on a plane...) It's much more likely that you will be scanned when other symptoms indicate that something is wrong. Test by, if you go to the doctor for a cough, they don't routinely prescribe a chest x-ray.

    Or, come to think of it, maybe your doctor does. Practices vary widely. Maybe your exposure would depend on how enamored your doctor is of the technology.

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  24. Re:Silly Scale by Lucky75 · · Score: 1

    Log scale: 10^2 = 100 = 2 orders of magnitude. Still a bit nonsensical to say 30,000 times smaller though. Most of us can't really get a handle on what that means (although 100 nm might also be hard to grasp for some).

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  25. Paramount lawsuit by rossdee · · Score: 1

    in 3 2 1

  26. Hum... by emagery · · Score: 1

    I see the benefits, but... they're already unwilling to tell us about the toxic results (not to mention, cancer clusters among workers using them) surrounding the existing 'chertoff porno-scanners' as hartmann likes to call them.

  27. Re:"T-Rays"??? Microwave Ovens and Heat Lamps by radtea · · Score: 2

    So "T-rays" would tends to cook you.

    Funny! Like saying, "Cell phones use microwave radiation, so OMG I'm being cooked by my phone!" Sadly, there are idiots of the kind you're parodying who really don't understand anything about power levels and who really do give credence to such nonsensical thinking, which is something I call "argument from abstraction": "X is a member of abstract category C. Y is also a member of abstract category C. Y has effect E, therefore X has effect E." It's nothing but a special for of undistributed middle, but it's common enough to deserve its own name, I think.

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  28. Re: radiation by IAmR007 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Terahertz radiation is not nearly ionizing radiation; it's between infrared and microwave. It can't hurt you unless you use high enough intensities to cause burning.

    The awesome thing about terahertz is that can also be used for spectroscopic analysis as well as imaging. The terahertz energies correspond to crystal phonon energies, which means substances and their crystal structure can be determined by a terahertz scan. This means that for security applications, you don't even need to form an image unless the signature of an explosive substance is seen, which reduces privacy concerns of such technology considerably.

    The major downside, at least for devices operating at around 1THz, which I've worked on at the University of Leeds, is that water is opaque. Atmospheric water is highly annoying (samples in labs are run in dry nitrogen environments) and a damp cloth would completely block such scans. Many of the commercial devices run at 300GHz, however, so I'm not sure if water is a problem for them.

  29. 25 million American diabetics: "Faster please." by hirundo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seems like this story dropped the lede. The most significant use of this technology will be to detect blood glucose levels without lancing through the skin, making it a less dreaded process for millions of diabetics to monitor their conditions.

    1. Re:25 million American diabetics: "Faster please." by NoisySplatter · · Score: 1

      I predict the people who make those monitors will go apeshit over the loss of their profit stream from consumables.

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  30. Forgot about cancer, scan for guns by GreenTom · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's because I live in Baltimore and my chance of getting murdered is not too much lower my chance of getting cancer, I'd say forget about scanning for tumors. If they invent something that lets cop cars scan for concealed firearms while they drive down the street, that's at least as much a public health benefit as improved cancer screening. Or does the 2nd amendment mean we have to pretend that getting shot isn't bad for your health? And, just to anticipate to the inevitable psuedo-constitutional argument, what part of "well regulated militia" applies to people with criminal records walking around with unregistered concealed firearms?

    1. Re:Forgot about cancer, scan for guns by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      What does the 2nd Amendment have to do with health, or inner city shitholes with high felony crime rates which encourage illegal firearms? Places like Baltimore.

      You realize that if Baltimore (and Maryland) didn't make it illegal for law abiding citizens to own firearms, there'd probably be a markedly lower murder rate there, right? (Also consider that the majority of murders in the US - over 50%, I think it was 54% - are direct gang on gang related. So, don't be in a gang...)

      Otherwise, who gives a fuck if thugs are killing each other in the streets?

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    2. Re:Forgot about cancer, scan for guns by GreenTom · · Score: 1

      I don't really have an opinion on if we'd be safer with open carry laws or under current laws. Regardless, laws on the books should be enforced--as long as concealed firearms are illegal, it strikes me as fair to use technology to enforce that. My neighborhood (which is not at all an inner city shithole) has had a minor spate of gun crimes recently, including one fairly horrific home invasion followed by kidnapping and forced ATM withdrawals, so this is about more than thugs killing each other.

  31. T-Ray-Corder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Enjoy your T-Ray-Corder.

  32. Re:Silly Scale by nine-times · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I hate when people say "30,000 times smaller" or "5 times slower". I know what they mean by it, but it doesn't really make sense.

  33. integrate it into my shower... by schlachter · · Score: 2

    Wake up, get your morning coffee, then into the shower for your morning rinse and medical scan.

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  34. Technology optimiism by vikingpower · · Score: 1

    The OP seems to be still suffering from the thought that technology is going to cure it all: terrorism, diseases... C'mon, dude. We live in the XXIth century now.

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  35. Translation by sehlat · · Score: 1

    In the not so distant future, every household might have a Star Trek-like tricorder capable of detecting cancer or other diseases.

    Translation: In the not so distant future, every passing cop will be able to search you without a warrant.

    Oh, wait.......

    1. Re:Translation by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      Cop? More like every guy with a smartphone.

  36. So... by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 1

    T-rays are a lot like EHF (extremely high frequency), which is used by millimeter wave scanners in airports, medical imaging, and emerging wireless networking standards like WiGig — but stronger, faster, and more detailed. Where EHF radiation can see through your clothes, T-rays can penetrate a few millimeters of skin.

    So, where as the body scanners at airports will give you cancer, this thing will give you SUPER CANCER.

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  37. healthcare, yes by Meniconi,Nando · · Score: 1

    "In the not so distant future, every household might have a Star Trek-like tricorder capable of detecting cancer or other diseases." Yes, that's what it will be used for. That, and only that. Sure.

  38. Re:"T-Rays"??? Microwave Ovens and Heat Lamps by wamatt · · Score: 1

    Actually it's a perfectly valid way of reasoning.

    Just because you tend to have a more deductive process does not mean, probablistic inference is invalid or "silly".

    For example, Let X = Car and Y = Truck and C = Motorvehicles.

    When cars use up energy (burn fuel), on average, most of the time, they are travelling forward. The could certainly be stationary and reversing as well, but that is not what the argument is stating. Similarly we might expect the same behavior from trucks.

    The two are not deductively linked, however there is a belief that is greater than 0, that get's created. To say, "one can know *nothing*", is dogmatic and untrue. Probabilistic reasoning helps us navigate reality

    Does it have errors? Sure, but then so does deduction, eg when someone prides themselves on the logical process, but forgets to use the same rigor on the starting conditions or assumptions.

    Both methods have there merits.

  39. Senator Rand Paul Detained after TSA Scan by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    Where EHF radiation can see through your clothes, T-rays can penetrate a few millimeters of skin. ...
    T-ray scanners can detect toxic substances, bombs, drugs...

    - that's great, so there will be even more false positives like the one that just happened with senator Rand Paul

    Sen. Rand Paul stopped by TSA at Nashville Airport

    Kentucky U.S. Senator Rand Paul was held by TSA officials at Nashville International Airport Monday morning after an "irregularity" was found during the security screening process. ...

    Aides to the senator said Sen. Paul set off a full body scanning machine going through airport security. Sen. Paul claimed it was a "glitch" and wanted to keep going.

    An aide told NBC News that Sen. Paul told the screeners he doesn't have any metal. Apparently it was his right leg that was setting off the scanner. He raised his pant leg and showed them his leg, according to the aide. Paul said it was "clearly a glitch."

    The aide said TSA refused to let him re-scan and demanded that he submit to a full body pat down.

    The TSA said in a news release that "the passenger" was rebooked on another flight and was rescreened without incident.

  40. Detects cancer by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    But if you don't have cancer, don't worry, because this device has you covered.

  41. How big were they before? by Chozabu · · Score: 1

    30,000 times smaller - at 100nm that means they were 3mm before, right? why couldnt we have handheld scanners with 3mm antenna in them?

  42. Re:I can't wait... by 517714 · · Score: 1

    Captain, this appears to be a silicone based life form. /spock

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  43. Privacy invasion future by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    I can see them being stuck on/in all sorts of objects like RFID tags are now, scanning everyone that touches them. Clothes, elevator buttons.. Reporting back all sorts of data that is no ones business.

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  44. Re:I can't wait... by JRowe47 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I see a lot of silicone forms at Hooters.

  45. Re:Yeah, lets spread cancer all over the place by physburn · · Score: 1

    Terahertz is 300GHz to 3000GHz frequency band 3*10^8 / 3*10^12 = 1/10 mm. E = 1 millieV 3*10^9/ 3*10^12 = 1/100 mm. E= 10 millieV Terahertz radiation is in the right frequency range, not to be able to focus on cells, or let alone the insides of cells. Even the largest macromolecules would be invisible to it. Also the energy of a Terahertz photon isn't enough to break a single hydrogen bond, DNA would not be damaged.