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Pirate Party Releases Book of Pirate Politics

ktetch-pirate writes "If the SOPA/PIPA blackouts were a wakeup call to many people, then the U.S. Pirate Party has released a book that might help explain some of the issues. The book covers issues such as Corporate Personhood, the 4th Amendment, the history of copyright, and how DRM laws are made. There are even cartoons from Nina Paley throughout to add a bit of humor. DRM-free eBook versions are available to download from the book's site, or you can buy a paperback edition from Amazon for ten bucks." The book is under the CC BY-NC-SA, and features essays from the likes of Lawrence Lessig and Rick Falkvinge.

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  1. Y'ar they be no true pirates! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    True pirates only believe in a keg of rum and a fair splittin' o' the booty!

    1. Re:Y'ar they be no true pirates! by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      Yar, I think we all be appreciatin' a nice booty! Shiver me timber.

    2. Re:Y'ar they be no true pirates! by Tuoqui · · Score: 3, Informative

      Link to the torrent file for those who hit the slashdotted website. Viva La Bittorrent!

      http://bit.ly/x5gtHe

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    3. Re:Y'ar they be no true pirates! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      A book on Pirate Bollocks? Bollocks!

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    4. Re:Y'ar they be no true pirates! by Brad1138 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Y'ar they be no true pirates!"

      Hence global warming...

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    5. Re:Y'ar they be no true pirates! by Stephen+Gilbert · · Score: 1

      pp-international.net is having trouble responding. You can get the torrent from the Pirate Bay:

      http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6981856/No_Safe_Harbor_-_A_Pirate_Party_Book

      It contains all formats.

  2. Running through my head... by sonoftheright · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... are thoughts concerning the possible destruction of the universe were I to pirate the Pirate Party's book on Pirate Politics.

    1. Re:Running through my head... by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pretty sure that's why it's DRM-free. For the sake of the Universe.

    2. Re:Running through my head... by ClioCJS · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't need to, since TFA said they have it to download for free. The only way you could pirate it would be to buy a paperback and manufacture conterfeit paperback copies.

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    3. Re:Running through my head... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No...because of the license, if you were to take the work, adapt it into a new, commercial work and either did not give them attribution or made it look like they endorsed your new work, you would be violating the license and would technically be pirating it. Part of me would find it hilarious if the MPAA or RIAA purposefully did this and started selling it for a penny. Although they'd have to be very careful or their adaptation may stray into the realm of a protected parody.

    4. Re:Running through my head... by operagost · · Score: 1

      I assume that would be perfectly OK, because they are totally against copyright.

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    5. Re:Running through my head... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Many bothans died to bring us this insight!

    6. Re:Running through my head... by cp.tar · · Score: 1

      Well, the Pirate Party published a pamphlet on pirate politics precisely to prevent people from possibly pirating it by putting it up for purchase-less download.

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    7. Re:Running through my head... by cp.tar · · Score: 1

      If they did that, they’d get hit with the very same rules they’re forcing on us. It would be more than hilarious.

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    8. Re:Running through my head... by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      ... are thoughts concerning the possible destruction of the universe were I to pirate the Pirate Party's book on Pirate Politics.

      ...while through my mind runs a different tale of Universal destruction by Pirates, wherein I ask The Pirate Bay to print me a 3D printer with their 3D printer.

    9. Re:Running through my head... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      um... it is under a creative commons share alike license anyone can make a bazillion copies and distribute it to everyone on the planet. the only way to be a copyright ass is to do just what you describe

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    10. Re:Running through my head... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't need to, since TFA said they have it to download for free. The only way you could pirate it would be to buy a paperback and manufacture conterfeit paperback copies.

      Say I did that, would the pirate party sue me? And for how much?

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    11. Re:Running through my head... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      if I was a powerful entity I would just write my own astroturf.

      You wouldn't go for the more traditional crushing of your enemies into dust and selling their families into slavery?

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    12. Re:Running through my head... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Kids... sheesh... ever heard of Abbie Hoffman? Steal This Book!

      "It's embarrassing when you try to overthrow the government and you wind up on the Best Seller's List."

      What was old is new again!

    13. Re:Running through my head... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't need to, since TFA said they have it to download for free. The only way you could pirate it would be to buy a paperback and manufacture conterfeit paperback copies.

      Say I did that, would the pirate party sue me? And for how much?

      A hundred bottles of rum and a chest of gold coins. Aye, that be what they be suing you forrrr. Aaaaaahhrrr!

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    14. Re:Running through my head... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Why are these not marked funny?!?!

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  3. Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Kevin+McCready · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hopefully we might one day move towards the revolutionary notion of a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. Yes I know it's terribly problematic determining the parameters, but if the principle was accepted we'd be a lot further ahead.

    1. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by davester666 · · Score: 2

      False. We must all work to support the ability for individuals to become billionaires.

      Of course, don't tell anybody that for one person to become a billionaire, a WHOLE LOTTA people have to be zeroinares.

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    2. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Flammon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly! Doing something once and getting paid a hundred million times for it is a loophole in our system and it desperately needs to be fixed. Sadly the people who took advantage of this loophole have made enough money which has given them power to control the goverment and preserve the loophole.

    3. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by LordLucless · · Score: 2

      Yes, don't. Especially since it's wrong.

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    4. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Fned · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1) Because it produces no value. Copyright is meant to encourage the creation of new works by rewarding the creator, rewarding the creator is not the end goal. There is some encouragement provided by creators seeing a tiny, tiny percentage of other creators become rich, but that effect is more than nullified by the chilling effect of big media locking down the public domain for ever and ever. Eventually, no one will be able to create anything new without paying someone a fee based on some ancient crap no one except the rights-holder remembers.

      2) Because copyright as it currently stands is incompatible with computers. Copyright seeks to monetize individual packets of information, and individual packets of information inside a computer system have zero value; in fact, individual packets of information in a computer can't even be made to have value without breaking the computer, since all a computer actually does is separate information from permanent media so that you can copy, destroy, or muck about with it at no cost.
      Copies mean nothing in Computerland, only creation and access have value.

    5. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Flammon · · Score: 1

      How about copy protection until the creators have made a reasonable profit. That goes for software, music, movies, patents, drugs etc.

    6. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by jd2112 · · Score: 2

      Exactly! Doing something once and getting paid a hundred million times for it is a loophole in our system and it desperately needs to be fixed.

      Why?

      It's called "The Golden Rule". He who has the gold makes the rules.

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    7. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by mayko · · Score: 1

      Seriously? I think Brittany Spears was making like 1.2 million per show on one of her tours, not bad for a night's work. I imagine she'd still be just as popular had everyone gotten her damn music for free. Performers should get paid for performances. Sell the digital music cheap to drum up fans and excitement. Don't worry about a few downloads... just more fans who may eventually drop 100 bucks a ticket to come see a show.

    8. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Fned · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nearly everyone involved with actually making movies -- directors, actors, crew, caterers, editors, foley artists, stuntmen, gophers -- gets paid once for each movie.

      So, I rather suspect the ticket price would be exactly what it is now, except everyone who wants to see the film would need to buy a ticket before the movie starts getting made.

      The parasites that actually DO get paid over and over, and then cook the books so that it looks like they're not making a profit and therefore don't have to pay anyone royalties? Those guys? They'd be fucked. Everyone else from the scriptwriter to the moviegoer would be just fine.

      This idea that copies are worth something is an idea that people are going to have to learn to let go of if they want to join the rest of us here in the computer age.

    9. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Karlb · · Score: 1

      So... given the man power/logistical overhead of producing say an application/film/book/music/etc how would you suggest that cost is recouped (with a reasonable profit margin, cos, hey most of us need jobs right?)

      Not mocking, I am actually curious

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    10. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by kiwimate · · Score: 1

      Because it produces no value. Copyright is meant to encourage the creation of new works by rewarding the creator, rewarding the creator is not the end goal.

      And how does piracy change this?

      Because copyright as it currently stands is incompatible with computers. Copyright seeks to monetize individual packets of information, and individual packets of information inside a computer system have zero value

      You might just as well say individual letters of the alphabet have zero value. Or individual globs of paint have zero value.

      I like Karlb's question on your post. How do you respond?

    11. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This idea that copies are worth something is an idea that people are going to have to learn to let go of if they want to join the rest of us here in the computer age.

      Case in point:

      TITANIC OST CD BY JAMES HORNER
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(soundtrack)

      Value in 1997/1998: About $20.00 brand new
      Value in 2008/2009: $0.25 used (I called a place that bought used CDs).
      Value in 2012: $0.01 (plus shipping) on Amazon used (10.40 new)

      But I bought it back in 1998 for its artistic value and it one of only a handful of scores where
      EVERY track on the CD is worth listening to. Even better when a score (such as this one) can transcend
      'background music' status and can be enjoyed WITHOUT watching the movie it was scored for.

      If this isn't proof that the value of physical media is essentially $0, I don't know what is.
      [Of course, 30 million copies got pressed so that is probably why its so cheap.]

      The internet has driven down the price of entertainment IP. You can get old movies at WAL-MART for $5.00 per movie (or more movies for $5.00 if the movies are OLD and related)

      Today, the value of data is only linked to its size and the prevailing cost of storage media (i.e. hard disks)
      in order to determine its 'true' value.

      ORIGINAL CAPTCHA: purging [what the Internet has doen to the value of physical entertainment media]

    12. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by morgauxo · · Score: 1

      Of course.. without all those movies people might actually get up off their fat asses now and then and actually live interesting lives.
      nah.............

    13. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by brit74 · · Score: 1

      > "Doing something once and getting paid a hundred million times for it is a loophole in our system and it desperately needs to be fixed."

      The problem with the "copyright means that creators get paid over and over for doing something once" argument is that prices reflect that. A movie that costs $400 million dollars to create can be yours for $10. Software that costs a billion dollars to create get paid-off by a huge number of small payments by individual people. There's nothing wrong with getting paid in small increments over and over so that you can pay down your one big debt of creating the content to begin with. It might *sound* wrong, but that's because you're thinking about it wrong. Over time, the prices tend to equalize around a point where (cost of production) = (average revenue from a single purchase)*(number of purchases). Why is this the case? Because of competition. If I can work for a year and make a million dollars, then that's a signal to other people that they can do the same thing - which causes them to compete with me, and the tools of competition include: selling their product for less money than I'm selling my product for, or spending more money to create a better product than I'm making (i.e. spending more money on creation).

      The fact that we as individuals make small payments and companies can use that to pay-off their big debt is what enables the creation of products like movies and games. There would be no games like Starcraft 2 if it wasn't for this fact, because nobody's going to pay $100 million dollars (that's the reported cost) for a single copy of Starcraft 2 - instead, we all pay a little money and Blizzard ends up paying off the massive debts they accumulated by creating the product in the first place.

    14. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by brit74 · · Score: 2

      > You can charge a subscription
      You mean like online newspapers?

      you can charge for live performances
      Yes, I should've thought about performing software and movies sooner.

      you can charge for merchandise
      We're going to fund my next romantic comedy movie by selling action figures!

      you can rely on people paying because it's the right thing to do (a la that one radiohead album).
      You mean that one stunt that they said they're never going to repeat again? http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9932361-7.html

      Or you can do something like a patronage system, or work as a commercial artist.
      Please mister, will you fund the next big videogame / movie? It'll cost millions of dollars, but you'll be providing society with free entertainment. Surely you don't have anything better to do with that money.

    15. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Flammon · · Score: 2

      That's how the system is supposed to work and if it did, I'd have no problem with it. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. It's much more complex than that and you're seeing exactly what they want you to see. You say that Starcraft 2 would not have been created because nobody is going to pay $100 million but that's not true. I didn't pay for Starcraft 2 until it was finished and the $100 million had already been paid for. Who do you think paid that money up front? Honest gamers? Nope. Investors. Most of which will never play the game. These investors will try to squeeze as much money out of you as possible and sue anyone who stands in their way. They couldn't care less about the game, who is making it or who is playing it. They just want to create money without ever lifting a finger. The only work they do is lobby the government for laws that keep their unfair money making scheme running.

    16. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by bug1 · · Score: 1

      Agree, another way of saying it is ...

      Society should encourage people to work rather than to have worked.

    17. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by bug1 · · Score: 1

      Copyright is government granted monopoly designed to _prevent_ competition, your arguments dont hold water.

      Sharing the cost of production is a fine idea when there is true competition such as commodities, products built to standards, but anything with artistic value has no equal, there can be no true competition.

    18. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Hopefully we might one day move towards the revolutionary notion of a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. Yes I know it's terribly problematic determining the parameters, but if the principle was accepted we'd be a lot further ahead.

      I, for one, welcome our new communistic from-each-according-to-his-abilities to-each-according-to-his-needs overlords.

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    19. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter, as all the money generated by this magical non-zero-sum-game economic activity should be equally divided amongst the population anyway.

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    20. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      You can charge a subscription, you can charge for live performances, you can charge for merchandise, you can rely on people paying because it's the right thing to do (a la that one radiohead album). You can charge for added value, like the convenience of having a large collection (Netflix). Or you can do something like a patronage system, or work as a commercial artist.

      You're not a creative artist are you?

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    21. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      The cost of making movies is not primarily in the leading actors' fee. You have to pay for the director, technicians, caterers and all the rest too.

      Anyway, it's a chicken and egg thing. Tom Cruise only gets paid so much because the movies he stars in generate a lot of money. If those movies make no money (because no fucker is paying to watch them) then Tom won't even get paid the minimum wage for making films, and at some point the only films getting made will be by amateurs..

      Personally, I couldn't give a toss if there were no more Mission Impossible (or Transformers, Avatar or whatever) films ever made, and all we had were semi-professional versions of Shakespeare but I don't think that would apply to most people here.

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    22. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      How about copy protection until the creators have made a reasonable profit. That goes for software, music, movies, patents, drugs etc.

      Because everyone here would still demand the right to break the copy protection as it morally offended them.

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    23. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Nearly everyone involved with actually making movies -- directors, actors, crew, caterers, editors, foley artists, stuntmen, gophers -- gets paid once for each movie.

      They only get paid at all because it is possible to make a profit on a film. If you knew you could only generate a maximum of (say) a million dollars on even the most successful film, you'd get much slimmed down casts, crew and everything else. No one would spend anywhere near a million to make a film any more.

      The parasites that actually DO get paid over and over, and then cook the books so that it looks like they're not making a profit and therefore don't have to pay anyone royalties? Those guys? They'd be fucked.

      They're the ones who took the risk of financing it. Everyone on slashdot is all libertarian-anarchist-capitalist when it suits them, but you don't seem to like the reality of capitalism much when it gets in the way of watching whatever you want on your computer.

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    24. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      And, of course, you conveniently ignore the fact that these investors were what made it possible for Blizzard to spend 100 million developing the game.

      There is nothing special about games and software compared with any other commodity. Someone invests in my widget making company, paying for manufacturing equipment, set up of offices and all the rest, and then when I sell enough widgets I can pay them interest, a share of profit or whatever.

      You cannot have a sensible business model based on "you invest 100 million so that we can develop this game, then we'll give it away for free afterwards because people are only going to pirate it anyway". You won't get the investment in the first place, and your next game will have to be made for free, including people's time.

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    25. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Socialism is like... evil and shit. I disagree with it so it's bad. I know that's true because I heard it on a news station!

      Yeah it is evil ... you need a brain to figure it out , though ...

      That obviously disqualifies you then.

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    26. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Flammon · · Score: 1

      You cannot have a sensible business model based on "you invest 100 million so that we can develop this game, then we'll give it away for free afterwards because people are only going to pirate it anyway". You won't get the investment in the first place, and your next game will have to be made for free, including people's time.

      Sure you can.

      http://www.kickstarter.com/

    27. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by brit74 · · Score: 1

      > "Copyright is government granted monopoly designed to _prevent_ competition, your arguments dont hold water."

      What are you talking about? When I create new software, copyright is used to prevent filesharing (i.e. my users doing an end-run around paying for it and getting a free copy) and it prevents commercial piracy (i.e. someone going and selling my software without my permission and pocketing all the money for themselves).

    28. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Because art is like science and technology, in that what exists now is built on what came before. Imagine how technology would stagnate if patents lasted as long as copyrights? Well, that's how art has stagnated since the Bono Act. It needs to be repealed.

    29. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by kiwimate · · Score: 1

      you can rely on people paying because it's the right thing to do

      You're suggesting this in a forum that is made up of large numbers of people who vehemently defend pirating stuff, even though they admit it to be wrong, because the RIAA and MPAA are supposed to be even worse? A group of people that seem to think two wrongs do make a right, or a wrong is somehow okay if it's hurting a big bad corporation?

    30. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by brit74 · · Score: 1

      Who do you think paid that money up front? Honest gamers? Nope. Investors.
      First of all, I have doubts that Blizzard needs to go to investors. I'm sure they've got enough money in the bank from World of Warcraft to self-fund themselves. I know a few things about self-funded ventures because I've created software which was funded *SOLELY* by my own savings. Did that stop pirates from pirating it? Of course it didn't. Pirates still feel entitled to free entertainment.

      Second, do you think that investors would invest money in producing a game if the public wasn't going to pay money so that they could actually get a return on their money? That's not an investment, that's a money-pit. The investors wouldn't invest if copyright didn't exist.

      These investors will try to squeeze as much money out of you as possible and sue anyone who stands in their way.
      Please. They aren't "suing anyone who stands in their way". At worst, Blizzard has sued pirates who unfairly demand free entertainment at Blizzard's expense.

      The only work they do is lobby the government for laws that keep their unfair money making scheme running.
      Name some gaming companies that have lobbied the government for the "unfair money making scheme". Game companies don't give a shit about 100 year copyrights. And if you're going to attack the very idea of copyright (and I mean all forms of copyright - afterall "getting paid multiple times for the same work" is an attack on ALL forms of copyright) then make an attack on it. Saying that lobbying is twisting the copyright law (which gaming companies aren't do anyway) is merely an attack on some version of copyright. Unless you're going to argue that copyright itself is the "unfair money making scheme", then you're just playing games.

    31. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Give away the content, sell the container as has been done for centuries. You didn't use to buy novels, you bought books. You didn't buy music, you bought records. You didn't buy movies, you bought tapes.

      People like decorating their houses with stuff that shows visitors how erudite or rich or sophisticated or hip or intellectual they are. College kids don't count; they have neither the room nor money for "stuff". The college kid that eschews books in favors of iBooks now will have dead tree books on shelves when he or she graduates and joins the real world -- unless the media manages to convince us that material goods are unerudite or tacky or unsophisticated or uncool or antiintellectual (which they've been trying to do since they discovered that they could "sell" 3 MB of data for less than a penny and get a buck for it).

    32. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by brit74 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I remember that time that a company got $100 million dollars by using a Kickstarter campaign.

      Did you know that no videogame has ever reached $100,000 on kickstarter? The most-funded videogame project I could find on Kickstarter (called "Grandroids") topped out at $56,000. Why, that'd get you a software developer and an artist for a whole six months!
      http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/categories/video%20games/most-funded

    33. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Copy protection doesn't work. How about reasonable time limits for copyrights? How is Jimi Hendrix or John Lee Hooker going to be persuaded to record any more music? They're dead, Jim.

      Also, I can buy a DVD at WalMart for five bucks. Why in the hell would I bother pirating it? And if you couldn't afford five bucks, how is your piracy costing anyone anything?

    34. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by bug1 · · Score: 1

      This is the section of the parent post i responding to.

      "Over time, the prices tend to equalize around a point where (cost of production) = (average revenue from a single purchase)*(number of purchases). Why is this the case? Because of competition."

      My point is that argument cannot apply to artistic works.
      Good painting get more expensive over time, Vincent van Gogh's painting started of worthless, and over time became priceless.

      The reason is that "Cost of Production" cannot factor the value of a unique human life, how much was Steve Jobs worth to Apple, how did he influence the cost of production ?

      All Intellectual Property has artistic value (even raw code), so there can never be true competition and it will never approach cost of production.

    35. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by Flammon · · Score: 1

      That was bad terminology on my part. I meant copyright protection and a reasonable time limit in addition to reasonable profit would be great. If $100,000,000 profit is made within the first month, then what are we protecting them from? Is protection really needed?

    36. Re:Fair day's pay for fair day's work by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      If $100,000,000 profit is made within the first month, then what are we protecting them from? Is protection really needed?

      The trouble with that is that you would be encouraging mediocrity. Say I write a fantastic book everyone wants to read and make a million the first year, and nothing afterward, while a hack whips out some garbage that takes fifty years to earn that much. He's still got copyright while I don't. Rather, give both the same amount of time. If author #1 sells a million books a year whle author #2 sells ten thousand, #2 has the incentive to try harder.

      You would have "Gigli" hold copyright for decades, while "Gran Torino" would only have it for a year. Crap shouldn't be rewarded better than quality!

      To me, it isn't about the money a person or company makes, it's about use of material. Art is like science and technology, in that everything new is built on the old. If Hemmingway saw farther than other men, it was because he stood on the shoulders of giants (plus you meet interesting characters in seedy bars).

  4. Education by omganton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have been waiting for this. Blackouts and protests can raise awareness, but those interested yet lacking knowledge require a targeted repository of information on the issues at hand. The distribution of knowledge is the best way to prepare the masses for the lengthy and technical debates that are sure to arise regarding SOPA/PIPA in the following years.

    1. Re:Education by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've been waiting for it too.

      The book is under the CC BY-NC-SA

      Ha! I'm going to sell it without attribution. What are you going to do about it, Pirate Party?!

    2. Re:Education by Tuoqui · · Score: 1

      Yeah the website is temporarily down due to slashdot...

      LOIC got nothing on Slashdot :D

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    3. Re:Education by Tokolosh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Put it on Megapload.

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    4. Re:Education by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ha! I'm going to sell it without attribution. What are you going to do about it, Pirate Party?!

      The Pirate Party opposes the present understanding of copyright, but it does not oppose the moral right of the author to be credited. It can be argued that copyright is a recent innovation (the early US legislation noted that it is a government fiat to spur creation, not a natural right) and alien to most people, but claims that authors have the right to be credited stretch far back into antiquity.

      Basically, copyright violation and plagiarism are two different issues.

    5. Re:Education by ktetch-pirate · · Score: 3, Informative

      DANGIT! We're gong to get the site back up ASAP! Meantime - Torrent - http://bit.ly/x5gtHe TXT - http://bit.ly/xrPGl5 ODT - http://bit.ly/zC6TE1 RTF - http://bit.ly/xHI7MO PDF - http://bit.ly/xVI0t1 MOBI - http://bit.ly/wtYRQQ EPUB - http://bit.ly/zt99zw

    6. Re:Education by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      The Pirate Party opposes the present understanding of copyright, but it does not oppose the moral right of the author to be credited.

      Not quite. Their licence forbids others to sell copies of their book. That is indeed a copyright claim. They are trying to dictate what I do with the copies I make. How can they do that unless they claim to own them?

      And what if I oppose the "moral right" of the author to be credited. What's to say the Pirate Party are right and I'm wrong? Has not the Pirate Party demonstrated that they believe the moral course of action for me is to act based on my beliefs, not the author's beliefs. Therefore they should understand when I sell copies of their book without attribution.

      Basically, copyright violation and plagiarism are two different issues.

      Burglary and robbery are two different issues.

    7. Re:Education by polymeris · · Score: 2

      Suprisingly, that actually is the book. No goatse or cheap luxury handbags.

    8. Re:Education by ktetch-pirate · · Score: 2

      I'm not a dick like that. I't's my submission to slashdot. Thus I've got a vested interest in making sure y'all get the book!

    9. Re:Education by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I think he was referring to the lack of newlines. Usually when you get a bunch of links on one line like that, it's the counterfeit shoes/handback spammers or the like. ;)

    10. Re:Education by brit74 · · Score: 1

      > "The Pirate Party opposes the present understanding of copyright, but it does not oppose the moral right of the author to be credited.

      One of the oft-cited excuses for piracy is that "you can't stop us / copyright is incompatible with computers because they are designed to copy bits!" The fact of the matter is that the Pirate Party can't stop anyone from deleting the attribution. So, using the same excuses that they use to legitimize piracy, other people can justify removing attribution. If the Pirate Party is going to fall back on "be nice with our IP", well, they're not in a very good position to say that.

    11. Re:Education by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Basically, copyright violation and plagiarism are two different issues.

      Burglary and robbery are two different issues.

      Uh oh, you'll have the "copying is not theft" twat-bots after you now.

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    12. Re:Education by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Oh, I'm sure that they don't mind if you sell copies of the book, if you get rid of copyright first.

      Bullshit, nothing is forcing them to use copyright if they don't want to, they can just release it into the public domain, and their action does not affect anyone else (unlike not paying tax or not obeying a law).

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    13. Re:Education by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Uh oh, you'll have the "copying is not theft" twat-bots after you now.

      Heh heh! Bring it on!

  5. Re:...and Slashdot Takes It Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Guess I'll have to pirate it since I can't get it from the site.

  6. Re:...and Slashdot Takes It Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Enjoy http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.nosafeharbor.com/get&hl=en&strip=1

  7. Re:Cool! by Rostis · · Score: 2

    That's a license, not a copyright. The copyright is by default.

  8. Idealism vs Reality by Brain-Fu · · Score: 2

    The value of a unit of work entirely depends upon the perceptions of the people who benefit from said work. As such, it varies with many variables, including location, culture, material availability, labor availability, alternative benefit availability, time, etc.

    It is very easy to deem that someone else is overpaid because of the low value their output has to you personally, without taking into account the high value it may have to the people who are actually paying for it. The opposite is also true.

    The matter is further complicated by the possibility of economic predation, where people can position themselves so as to be able to force the extraction of pay that is way beyond the value provided in anyone's perception. Though this is the most visible and most hated issue driving income inequality, the other variables contribute just as significantly to the imbalances (or the incorrect perception thereof).

  9. Re:Corporate Personhood, worst conspiracy ever by pugugly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This neat theory that corporate personhood was a badly phrased but highly meaningless concept vanished the instant the Supreme Court extended the protections of freedom of speech to corporations. Combined with money == speech, corporations have rights unmatched by any but the wealthiest Citizens.

    But thank you for playing and here's your copy of the home game

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  10. Re:...and Slashdot Takes It Down by Tuoqui · · Score: 1

    It might be up on www.tuebl.com soon if the site remains down much longer.

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  11. Re:Corporate Personhood, worst conspiracy ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Corporations are however considered "legal persons"

    Pretty much only in the United States of America. Why do corporations work perfectly well in the rest of the world without this strange legal shield of "personhood" that they neither earned nor deserve?

    ...whether you choose to sell burgers as Joe Bloggs (your real name) or Joe Bloggs Ltd should make no difference when it comes to whether you have protection against people falsely claiming you put rat meat in your burgers.

    Why is it necessary for Joe Bloggs Ltd to be legally considered a person to protect Joe Bloggs? Why can Joe Bloggs not simply sue in his capacity as the owner of Joe Bloggs Ltd.?

  12. Slashdotted... if only... by nilbog · · Score: 1

    The site to get the eBook is down. If only The Pirate party had access to some kind of distributed download system that could handle the traffic...

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    1. Re:Slashdotted... if only... by ktetch-pirate · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's available on torrent. We're using the canadian pirate party's CaPT torrent tracker. Magnet is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:79ADFF2965C672CC66F2AD54D67857BD3BAEEC61&dn=NoSafeHarbor_eBooks-USPirateParty&tr=http%3a//www.pirateparty.ca/tracker/announce.php OR the torrent file is http://bit.ly/x5gtHe Keep track of @nosafeharbor for more info

  13. Wait until my patent . . . by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 1

    . . . on 'giving ebooks away for free' comes out.

  14. Re:Great! by Tuoqui · · Score: 1

    If Slashdotted get it from the torrent...

    http://bit.ly/x5gtHe

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  15. Re:Cool! by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The primary goal is copyright reform, not abolishment.
    Copyright isn't evil; it's just being abused heavily.

  16. Been Slashdotted by ktetch-pirate · · Score: 1

    It's been slashdotted offline!!! There's download links on the twitter feed! https://twitter.com/#!/NoSafeHarbor

  17. Can't download from a US internet connection. by yanom · · Score: 1

    Can't download from a US internet connection. Has the site been slashdotted or is it censored in the states?

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  18. Not particularly good by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I read the first few essays and, though I agree with the sentiments therein, I found most of them rather poorly written - either unsure of their target (e.g., most non-computer-geek persons will not know what a "zombie botnet" is and how it relates to DNS, which is also not described) or incredibly dense in legality or just scattered (jumping from point-to-point with little connection). As a document, the whole thing would be unreadable by the normal man on the street. If you actually want a good example of what a publisher and the editorial services they should provide bring to the table, you need do little more than try to read this document. The distance between where this document is and where it should be to be effective (which should demonstrate the amount of work it would take to bridge the gap) is also a good indicator as to why these intermediaries deserve to be paid for these efforts.

    If you want to kill copyright, you should put out a document showing that the services of those paid by copyright is no longer necessary. This document, though heartfelt, is crap.

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    1. Re:Not particularly good by Kijori · · Score: 1

      I was going to post something very similar to this. The great irony of this publication is that none of the essays or stories are of the same standard as their copyrighted, for-profit alternatives.

      The strongest argument, I think, that is tendered against copyright reform that would legalise sharing is that making it more difficult to make money from content creation would lead to an impoverishment of content. Creating good content is expensive, both in terms of time spent creating it and money spent on copy-editors and the like. The counter-argument is generally that these things are unnecessary - content-creators are not mainly motivated by money and copy-editors are either unnecessary or can be replaced by free or cheap alternatives.
      Obviously one publication does not definitively demonstrate anything. But when the flagship publication of the major anti-copyright organisation is so comprehensively outclassed by commercial publishing it would seem to call into question the hardline pro-file-sharing stance.

  19. Re:Corporate Personhood, worst conspiracy ever by tabrisnet · · Score: 1

    In order to do so, might one also need to make the quorum shareholders of a publically traded corp each plaintiffs for any lawsuit that a corp wants to file ?

    Limited personhood perhaps makes sense, but I'd call it merely a 'legal entity' that is empowered to do certain things (financial and legal transactions) and not do other things (vote, unrestricted speech, etc). But that is more complicated than just calling them persons en toto.

  20. Re:Cool! by Score+Whore · · Score: 1

    So here's a thought:

    1) write books.
    2) hold your copyright for the length of time you think is appropriate. this could be zero years.
    3) after that time passes, release your books into the public domain.

    If you are right that your options 2 or 3 are superior to the existing system then you'll become more successful than the people using the existing system and therefore everyone will use your approach to copyright.

    My guess is that you won't be successful.

  21. Re:"Humor", right by Fned · · Score: 1

    blunt, condescending, oversimplified metaphors

    When' you're combating heavily-armored paradoxes like "intellectual property", finesse and sharpness are poor tools. What's needed are maces, hammers, RPGs.

    Once the shell is cracked, then you can be subtle.

  22. Re:Cool! by russotto · · Score: 1

    Copyright isn't evil; it's just being abused heavily.

    If copyright isn't evil, why does it run around wearing a Snidely Whiplash mustache and tying people to railroad tracks? OK, they're mostly neckbeards and not maidens, but still...

  23. The US has a Pirate Party? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That will probably be the reaction of many. Yes, it does. Unfortunately, there is no proportional representation so any vote in a state that was not cast in favor of the winner in that state, goes in the trash.

    This has two effects:
    * In states safely in hands of incumbents, it doesn't matter if you vote PP or not. You won't win. You don't get a voice.
    * In states that are heavily contested (swing states), even PP supporters are tempted to vote R or D, just to make sure "the other guy" doesn't win, depending which side of the fence they are on.

    This book will hopefully draw a lot of attention to the USPP; being able to get the message out might prove to be just as effective.

    1. Re:The US has a Pirate Party? by ktetch-pirate · · Score: 1

      Thank you for this. That's actually the EXACT point of my first piece in the book, "Breaking the Two Party Two-Step"

  24. RANSOMWARE (KICKSTARTER model) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Any product that can be deliniated in a computer file can be 'held hostage' until the ransom is paid to the creator [who charges enough up front s/he doesn't care about any subsequent piracy and lost revenue] by those interested in paying part of the ransom. Once the ransom is paid, the file is distributed. The creator got paid. The buyers got what they wanted -- everybody wins. Otherwise NO MONEY CHANGES HANDS.

    See Kickstarter

    http://www.kickstarter.com/

    One Kickstarter project I saw got completely funded for the mid-4 figures in THE FIRST 24 HOURS of the 30-day campaign!

    There were enough supporters willing to support this particular project.

    CAPTCHA: retail [kickstarter + sane pricing + co-operation = the antidote for the retail model of sales which is fraught with expensive 'overhead' which is passed on to the people who buy the stuff at the end of the line.]

    1. Re:RANSOMWARE (KICKSTARTER model) by Flammon · · Score: 2

      Kickstarter is a great model to follow and I'd love to see our system move towards something like it. If we could just demote greed from our culture a little, we'll get there eventually.

  25. Re:Cool! by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

    "Copyright isn't evil; it's just being abused heavily."

    It's more then just abused heavily corporations have outright stolen the public domain, any attempt at reform will be blocked and consistently attacked again until it's back where it started. I really hate how ignorant some slashdotters are about copyright history.

    Do you really think the people and companies behind the following will not attack and overturn reform at the first chance they get?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

  26. Re:Anti-American by ktetch-pirate · · Score: 1

    You know the author of that piece isn't American, right? He's actually Swedish. There's an 'about the authors' section at the end.

  27. No response to inequity RMS raises re: software? by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    I was hoping to find a Pirate Party response to Richard Stallman's essay on how the Swedish Pirate Party's proposed short term of copyright creates a needlessly unequal opportunity between copylefted free software and proprietary software upon entry into the public domain. In the same essay Stallman proposes a fix that resolves the unequal opportunity.

    It's the unequal results upon entering the PD that is unfair: Proprietors don't release source code so upon entry into the public domain their works would be redistributed as binaries without users being free to inspect or modify the work. By contrast users would be free to incorporate the formerly copyleft free software program. As Stallman points out, "the Pirate Party's proposal would give proprietary software developers the use of GPL-covered source code after 5 years, but it would not give free software developers the use of proprietary source code, not after 5 years or even 50 years". As he mentions, proprietary programs that timebomb themselves might remain useless even to users who merely want to run the program. Stallman wrote, "I could support a law that would make GPL-covered software's source code available in the public domain after 5 years, provided it has the same effect on proprietary software's source code. After all, copyleft is a means to an end (users' freedom), not an end in itself. And I'd rather not be an advocate for a stronger copyright.".

    We should strive for equal opportunity for use upon entry into the PD but the Pirate Party's recommended copyright policy would allow proprietors to exempt themselves from the freeing effect of entry into the PD. Stallman's idea of requiring proprietary software escrow when the binaries are released seems eminently sensible to me. Then users would be on equal footing with formerly copylefted free software source and formerly proprietary software source entering the public domain.

    If anyone can point me to a good response to Stallman's essay on this written by a Pirate Party representative I'd appreciate it. I've read the /. thread on Stallman's article and I didn't come across such a pointer.

  28. Forget a book of politics by merc · · Score: 1

    I wish they'd release a new movie!

    (that was a joke)

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  29. Re:Cool! by brit74 · · Score: 1

    > The primary goal is copyright reform, not abolishment.
    Just so you know: Nina Paley (who'd mentioned in the summary as creating cartoons for the book) believes in the total abolition of copyright. She thinks everyone should be able to to anything with other people's copyright - including sell it. In the past, she has attacked people who believe in the legalization of filesharing but think commercial copyright should still exist.

  30. Re:Corporate Personhood, worst conspiracy ever by pugugly · · Score: 1

    Except that the right overlapping rights of corporations were traditionally held as the right to contract as a person. Speech is a creative right, one that had been traditionally been withheld as germane only to a person; One can ask a person what his opinion is, a question that doesn't even make sense in the light of a corporation - one cannot ask a corporation anything, only the duly authorized representative of a corporation.

    In regard to a contract, swearing in a duly authorized representative makes sense, whether the representative of a person or a corporation. In regard to political speech? It's a question that falls under "That's not right . . . that's not even wrong . . .".

    And then conflating this already badly extended metaphor to the additional illogical thinking that donating money is a right equivalent to speech? You think that several 'moderately wealthy' citizens should band together to match a singular corporation?

    By any sane definition of moderately wealthy that doesn't even make sense mathematically. The average income in the United Stated is ~$(30,000 to 40,000) The Presidents Salary is $400,000, or about equivalent to 10-13 average people. 30 corporations that pais no income tax paid . . . over $475,000,000. 15 Million Dollars, each. If you consider $400,000/year 'moderately' wealthy, it would only require 37 people, donating their entire income to the cause, to match one corporate budget.

    People read your post. It's completely disconnected from reality.

    Pug

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  31. Why -NC ? by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2

    That seems fundamentally wrong to put a -nc there.

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  32. Re:Cool! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    The primary goal is copyright reform, not abolishment. Copyright isn't evil; it's just being abused heavily.

    I don't think so. The anti-copyright argument on slashdot (and I assume for the pirate people) is s that digitally copying something costs nothing so therefore why should anyone ever pay for a copy? That certainly involves scrapping the idea of copyright entirely.

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  33. Re:Cool! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    If you read the book I'm sure it will confirm all your slashdot group-think ideas about the evils of copyright,

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  34. Re:Cool! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    What is truly amazing is that people read his books for free on the websiteand then still go and buy them in paper format despite being warned.

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  35. Re:"Humor", right by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    blunt, condescending, oversimplified metaphors

    When' you're combating heavily-armored paradoxes like "intellectual property", finesse and sharpness are poor tools. What's needed are maces, hammers, RPGs.

    Once the shell is cracked, then you can be subtle.

    Christ, you're an idiot.

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  36. Re:The first article is totally stupid by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

    Actually, they did mention that. You just missed it, because you're an idiot.

    You also missed the part where it says that it doesn't matter who you are or what you've done, or what the authorities claim you've done, the same rights still apply to you as to everyone else.
    Presumably you missed this for the same reason.

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  37. Re:Anti-American by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

    Canadian laws are all online, too. Same with Ontario. Don't know about all the other provinces, but at least some of them are.

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