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ACTA Signed By 22 EU Countries
First time accepted submitter azrael29a writes "22 EU members signed the controversial ACTA treaty today in Tokyo. However, the signatures of the EU member states and the EU itself will count for nothing unless the European Parliament gives its approval to ACTA in June."
GreatBunzinni has been posting anonymous accusations listing a whole bunch of Slashdot accounts as being part of a marketing campaign for Microsoft, without any evidence. GreatBunzinni has accidentally outed himself as this anonymous poster. Half the accounts he attacks don't even post pro-Microsoft rhetoric. The one thing they appear to have in common is that they have been critical of Google in the past. GreatBunzinni has been using multiple accounts to post these "shill" accusations, such as Galestar, NicknameOne, and flurp.
That's not the problem. The problem is that moderators gave him +5 Informative and are now modding down the accused, even for legitimate posts. Metamoderation is supposed to address this by filtering out the bad moderators, but clearly it's not working.
This "shill" crap that has been flying around lately has to stop. It's restricting a variety of viewpoints from participating on the site and creating an echo chamber.
Infiltrated by Google employees and well-wishers, Slashdot consistently offers justifications for every bad behavior and terrible decision coming from Google. Just look at the privacy changes article in which fanboys banded together to make sure Google was perceived as the good guy and that anyone critical of them was modbombed.
Just to recap, Google is a multibillion dollar advertising megacorporation that was caught by the German government sniffing people's wifi data (they "accidentally" did it for three years before admitting it only when authorities threatened an investigation), forced people to use real names on Google+ and admitted it was an identity service and not a social network, stuffed Google+ results into the search engine without any competing social networks even though they have those networks indexed by the search engine (hello, Microsoft tactics), said that the only people who care about privacy "have something to hide," hacked into Mocality to call its customers, removed H.264 support in Chrome out of "openness" only to turn around and ship the closed-source Flash plugin, withheld Android source from the public but shared it with privileged hardware partners so they could have a leg up, abused their Android compatibility program to make things difficult for smartphone makers who chose Bing over Google, and on and on and on.
With all this crap they pull that would get them completely trashed if they were Microsoft or any other company, there's one reason and one reason only that they have been propped up as the good guy on Slashdot all these years--Linux. They use Linux. Slashdot is a Linux advocacy site, and so because Google uses Linux, they are good guys and get a pass for everything. That's all it takes to get Slashdot to love you. Just use Linux.
Hypocrites. When Microsoft used their Windows monopoly revenues to fund development of Internet Explorer and release it for free to try to dominate the web market, everyone here cried "antitrust!" But when Google uses its web search monopoly revenues to fund development of Android and release it for free to try to dominate smartphones, everyone defends it. For anyone who was on Slashdot during those times, to see Google doing all the very same things Microsoft did but get a completely different reaction is surreal.
Slashdot is a bubble. You only get pro-Google, pro-Linux news. Major news occurring elsewhere is often days late, if it gets reported at all. The Google+ search results fiasco is huge all over the tech sites right now, but there's nothing about it here, as if it doesn't even exist as a controversy. And did you know iOS surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011 according to three research firms? With how obsessed Slashdot is over marketshare, and how they constantly trumpeted Android's marketshare all the time as a victory last year, you'd think it would be big news. But, no. This is pro-Google territory, pro-Linux territory. Gotta keep the natives happy for more page views.
This will get modded down because trolls have taken over the moderation system and openly subvert it. That's fine. It just proves my point about how Slashdot reacts to anything outside the partyline. This site's news reporting is old, antiquated, and slow, but the news isn't even why people come here anymore. The part of the community still remaining (after its years-long exodus to Reddit, Hacker News, and other sites, which is why traffic has decreased so dramatically on most Slashdot stories today) only comes here to pat themselves on the back for thinking a certain way. "Yeah, Microsoft is still evil! Yeah, Google is still the good guy! Yeah, Apple is still for chumps!" It's the year 2000 forever on Slashdot.
Just say no to ACTA.
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Sure, its my signature, but I take no responsibility for any decisions.
Gotta love politics.
Such a lively, relevant discussion!
The last few months I have been doing some research into the trolling phenomenon on slashdot.org. In order to do this as thoroughly as possible, I have written both normal and troll posts, 1st posts, etc., both logged in and anonymously, and I have found these rather shocking results:
* More moderator points are being used to mod posts down than up. Furthermore, when modding a post up, every moderator seems to follow previous moderators in their choices, even when it's not a particularly interesting or clever post slashdot.org. There are a LOT more +5 posts than +3 or +4.
* Logged in people are modded down faster than anonymous cowards. Presumably these Nazi Moderators think it's more important to burn a user's existing karma, to silence that individual for the future, than to use the moderation system for what it's meant for : identifying "good" and "bad" posts (Notice how nearly all oppressive governments in the past and present do the same thing : marking individuals as bad and untrustworthy because they have conflicting opinions, instead of engaging in a public discussion about these opinions)
* Once you have a karma of -4 or -5, your posts have a score of -1 by default. When this is the case, no-one bothers to mod you down anymore. This means a logged in user can keep on trolling as much as he (or she) likes, without risking a ban to post on slashdot. When trolling as an anonymous user, every post starts at score 0, and you will be modded down to -1 ON EVERY POST. When you are modded down a certain number of times in 24 hour, you cannot post anymore from your current IP for a day or so. So, for successful trolling, ALWAYS log in.
* A lot of the modded down posts are actually quite clever, funny, etc., and they are only modded down because they are offtopic. Now, on a news site like slashdot, where the number of different topics of discussion can be counted on 1 hand, I must say I quite like the distraction these posts offer. But no, when the topic is yet another minor version change of the Linux kernel, they only expect ooohs and aaahs about this great feat of engineering. Look at the moderation done in this thread to see what I mean.
Digging deep into the history of slashdot, I found this poll, which clearly indicates the vast majority does NOT want the moderation we have here today. 'nuff said.
Feel free to use this information to your advantage. I thank you for your time.
Anonymous cowards are... well, cowards.
A French MEP has quit the process of scrutinising ACTA for the European Parliament, calling the treaty's passage through the EU legislative system a masquerade.
In a statement on Thursday, Kader Arif denounced the signing of ACTA (the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement) by the EU and 21 member states earlier in the day. He said the European Parliament was being undermined and the process was a "charade" in which he would no longer participate.
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"I want to denounce as the greatest of all the process that led to the signing of this agreement: no association of civil society, lack of transparency from the beginning of negotiations, successive postponements of the signing of the text without any explanation being given, setting aside the claims of the European Parliament [despite those views being] expressed in several resolutions of our Assembly," Arif said, according to an automated translation of his statement.
Arif said he had as rapporteur "faced unprecedented manoeuvres of the right of Parliament to impose an accelerated schedule to pass the agreement as soon as possible before the public is alerted, thereby depriving Parliament of its right of expression and the tools at its disposal to carry the legitimate demands of citizens".
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"This agreement may [have a] major impact on the lives of our citizens, and yet everything is done [so that] the European Parliament has no say," Arif said. "I will not participate in this charade."
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/communication-breakdown-10000030/mep-quits-acta-charade-in-protest-at-eu-signing-10025297/
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I am from Estonia and our internet community has managed to put the ACTA issues into the public debate here. The politicians still seem unwilling to tackle the issues raised; furthermore, it seems they were about to sign it without reading it - even to the point where our local RIAA lackey was the one explaining the "governments position" on the TV yesterday. I do not know where this will end and while our government seems to be afraid to say no, we will not go down without a fight.
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Because no one in Tokyo will picket for Europe, and even if there were people picketing at whatever location the signing was held, it's not like Japanese citizens would really care...
According to this article (in french), the Member of the European Parliament in charge of the ratification process of ACTA, Mr Kader Arif, just resigned his position, saying that the whole process is just an anti-democratic farce.
In Soviet Russia, our new overlords are belong to all your base.
I'll have to admit, I'm having trouble understanding why so many nations want to sign this monstrosity. Why the US wants it globally accepted is obvious, we don't really manufacturer what we used to. A significant portion of our economy has moved to a creating ideas, instead of things, then selling those ideas at massively inflated prices. But why other nations would fight so hard to get this kind of thing implemented in their own countries, which won't benefit them, but in fact will likely be a determent to them, such treaties/legislation. Is there massive amounts of money paying off foreign politicians behind the scenes that I'm not seeing.
It seems that the Dutch ambassador did not receive the required mandate in time. It is the intention of the Dutch to sign.
That is the sound of inevitability... It is the sound of corporate rule.
Ha ha, just kidding. I'm sure the EP will fight for the rights of its people. :-D
Borrowing Animal Farm:
"And then they looked from the government to the corporation, from the corporations back to the government, and they were unable to tell the difference."
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I was looking for a particularly good piece on the ACTA entitled "How the ACTA kills your job" (in quotes search). The page(s) does not exist according to google or the site(s) is down. Also the media seems to think that this is a copyright/Internet related issues only (with Anonymous playing a big role???). Is there a good piece that describes how it would affect other aspects of our life in the media such as generic drugs, seeds, patents and even surveillance by ISPs and file sharing?
Society use your Sciences
Since it's a treaty, like NAFTA, it's far easier to implement, far harder to challenge in court, and more powerful than an act of Congress. And it's global.
ACTA vs. SOPA: Five Reasons ACTA is Scarier Threat to Internet Freedom from the International Business Times:
The SOPA bill was derailed because it required both houses of the U.S. Congress to pass it, and for President Barack Obama to sign it. Once approved, it would have been subject to challenge and could have been changed by future congresses.
ACTA, on the other hand, was already signed by the United States on Oct. 11, 2011, and Obama was not required to get the approval of any outside authority to do so: not the Congress, not the Supreme Court, and not the American public.
Now that it has been signed, the legislative and judicial branches of the U.S. government also have little ability to challenge or amend the treaty, and Americans would be subject to a whole new scheme of laws, restrictions and regulations that could have them facing fines or jail through a process that would likely exist entirely outside the scope of the American justice system.
I can see the fnords!
Could anyone please explain why the EU and its member states are conducting their business in Asia?
You seem to have missed the part where the Senate has to vote to accept any treaty. Clinton signed Kyoto, but the Senate unanimously rejected it anyway.
A minister there in Ireland, Sean Sherlock, is attempting to sign a law that will overturn a judgement UPC (non censoring ISP) vs IRMA (Irish RIAA) on favour of UPC.
http://stopsopaireland.com is the online petition.
Many Irish sites have once again gone dark/posted banners including boards.ie
We have been hammering our MEPs with e-mails about ACTA all last week, so I'm very disappointed to hear this news tonight. .mp3
There seems to be a globally co-ordinated simultaneous strike to enshrine IP into law, and to blur the line between bootleggers who sell toys made from toxic plastic, with websites whose users post a link to an
Folks in the US, This treaty originated there, Please spread the word, and help in any way you can.
Am I the only one who thinks that ever since 9/11 - and actually before then as well - things have gotten diabolical across the globe, and in particular the US? It seems like there is huge, unseen effort to make the world a single nation (or effectively, by having universal laws), far more draconian control by government of everything, more police powers, etc., etc. No, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. It's just slowly dawning on me, with each new law, each new court decision, each new banking action, each new military action, that things are getting really weird. I used to think well of police, but now I see them as jack-booted thugs. I used to respect the military but now I see no honor. I used to believe politicians and bankers at least wouldn't work against their sponsoring country, but now I now I believe everyone is just a primal animal grabbing what they can.
Fuck Austria. Fuck Australia. Fuck Belgium. Fuck Bulgaria. Fuck Canada. Fuck the Czech Republic. Fuck Denmark. Fuck Finland. Fuck France. Fuck Greece. Fuck Hungary. Fuck Ireland. Fuck Italy. Fuck Japan. Fuck Latvia. Fuck Lithuania. Fuck Luxemburg. Fuck Malta. Fuck Morocco. Fuck New Zealand. Fuck Poland. Fuck Portugal. Fuck Romania. Fuck Singapore. Fuck Slovenia. Fuck South Korea. Fuck Spain. Fuck Sweden. Fuck the UK. Fuck the USA.
My other account has a 3-digit UID.
if you are situated on an eu member country, or, live/work in an eu member country, or, is employed by a company that is registered inside eu, you have the right to petition european parliament. you also have the right if you are citizen of a country that is an official candidate for eu.
Petition euparl from below link. tell them to fuck this shit :
https://www.secure.europarl.europa.eu/aboutparliament/en/petition.html
this is no joke petition - its official petition form of euparl itself. just drop your real name, address while petitioning.
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What I find odd is that Germany didn't sign it. That's the biggest economic power in the EU. I'd like to see the reason for that.
I think you've answered your own question. They are solidly standing on their own feet, and thus are less willing to bend over in response to bullying.
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
That legal analysis is incomplete and misleading. In the United States, laws and treaties get their power based on the Constitution and the number of branches of government that sign off on it. So here they are:
1. The Constitution is always the top and anything inconsistent with it is void. Only the People have the power to change the Constitution.
2. Two signatory branches. These are things that have been approved (or in the case of bills overridden of veto power) by two branches usually Laws and Treaties. If two of these conflict, the earlier in time is void; although the usual practice is to say they don't conflict. So, if you don't like a treaty, a law has to be passed to get rid of it or another treaty put in place to override it (in many cases, the government just stops enforcing it, but it is still on the books until one of the former happen). Also, anything below that conflicts with this level is also void.
3. One signatory branch. These are things that have been approved by one branch. These are things like resolutions or executive agreements. If two things at this level conflict, then the earlier one is void. However, you also need to take in account as to whether the branch in question had power to enact it. Additionally, if the action conflicts with any of the above, then it is also void.
4. No signatory branch. These are things that have not been approved by any branch. They lose to any of the above.
With the ACTA, having been signed by the president is at level (3). This means that all the legislature has to do is try to pass a law to get rid of ACTA or refuse to enact those laws. The President cannot force them to enact laws through a level 3 action; however, the various government agencies will be required to carry it out until something of a higher priority or same priority at a later time happens.
Additionally, some of the doom and gloom proposed under this treaty are not legal scenarios because the Constitution always wins, and many laws on the books prevent them, which beat ACTA (unless it is ratified).
The wealthy members of every nation are, naturally, united in their desire to remain wealthy. The introduction of globally-enforced artificial scarcity appears to be a great way of doing that. It isn't like the wealthy members of EU would rather see ACTA vanish, but are bowing their heads in submission to America. They are happily jumping at the chance to enter into such an agreement, because it directly benefits them. Or so they think.
Such oppression will only fan the flames of rebellion, and law enforcement will always have limits.
Fuck Austria. Fuck Australia. Fuck Belgium. Fuck Bulgaria. Fuck Canada. Fuck the Czech Republic. Fuck Denmark. Fuck Finland. Fuck France. Fuck Greece. Fuck Hungary. Fuck Ireland. Fuck Italy. Fuck Japan. Fuck Latvia. Fuck Lithuania. Fuck Luxemburg. Fuck Malta. Fuck Morocco. Fuck New Zealand. Fuck Poland. Fuck Portugal. Fuck Romania. Fuck Singapore. Fuck Slovenia. Fuck South Korea. Fuck Spain. Fuck Sweden. Fuck the UK. Fuck the USA.
That's a lot of fucking. I hope you brought enough condoms.
More seriously, don't confuse the countries for the few dickheads in those countries who are fucking things up. I've been to a good handful-and-some of the 30 countries you've listed, and most of the people I've met have been decent sorts.
Narrowing the field to just the assholes in charge, the people in these countries responsible for drafting and then signing ACTA generally look a lot like this guy. I don't know about your preferences, *I* certainly don't want to fuck 30 different versions of that.
Now, if you had instead said, "beat them upside the head (and elsewhere) with a cluebat until they personally and intimately understand the extent of the damage they're doing to everyone else", I'd be booking my flights right now.
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
Consider signing the Petition for Obama to Submit ACTA to the Senate for Ratification.
We can defeat ACTA in the USA in the Senate... If we can get ACTA submitted there.
Right now ACTA is only signed via Executive Agreement.
http://wh.gov/KxA
It can be used as a form of population control.
Like someone else already pointed out here, in Russia, if you are anti-Putin, you are claimed to be against copyright and your computers will be seized.
The same things will take place elsewhere, too.
All these, ACTA, SOPA, PIPA, whatever, they aim for only one purpose: cement the current ruling class and elite into place. This is done by getting tools with which to fight any incumbents.
Currently the tools must be hidden with "helps copyright", "thinks of children", and such lies. Later, when any opposition can just be thrown to jail, these lies will not be needed. Reading the news and history books on your iPad will not show a trace of these people or their ideology.
And for US citizens, you can sign a petition to challenge ACTA after being signed into law as an executive agreement -- which doesn't require approval -- when it covers intellectual property, which requires ratification in Congress.
I think you're making an unsupported leap there in that "doesn't require approval". TechDirt suggests that that could be true, but doesn't say it's more than "a pretty strong argument".
It's also an incorrect argument. Contrary to what TechDirt thinks about ACTA, it's non-implementing. In that sense, it's exactly the same as TRIPs, which was also an "executive agreement... cover[ing] intellectual property," but was never ratified by Congress. Instead, Congress passed the Uruguay Round Agreements Act, which implemented the agreement in TRIPs.
Same thing here... there's no requirement that ACTA be ratified by Congress, because ACTA doesn't actually set or modify any statutes. Instead, it places obligations on the country to write statutes granting certain minimum levels of protection. Congress will have to pass bills doing so, so it's not as if anything is implemented by ACTA without Congress' approval.
And that's going to be the White House's answer to any petition demanding ACTA be ratified by the Congress. There's no requirement, and Congress can weigh in when they write an implementing act.
Not quite.
The Senate has the power to approve treaties that the President makes:
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;
Under long-established judicial precedent, the Supremacy clause is interpreted to mean that the later-in-time treaty or law is the one which is in effect under domestic (United States) law when the two conflict:
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
Thus a treaty approved by the senate can override other laws. They often do not, because most treaties are not "self-executing." If they are not self-executing, they create an obligation under international law but do not become law under the domestic laws of the United States. In this case, failure to pass a law enacting the treaty means (in the absence of an exception in the treaty) that the United States is in violation of international law.
Disclaimer: obviously, if any of this matters to you, hire a lawyer skilled in public international law and United States Constitutional Law.
-- IANAL, this isn't legal advice, and definitely isn't legal advice for you. Also, Squee!
Thank you for the illumination.
And thank you for demonstrating that Slashdot comments haven't completely deteriorated to 4chan levels of discourse...
I can see the fnords!
The EU can't figure out how to fix Greece or Italy (spending too much time traveling to Tokyo to sign things) so they won't even be around long enough for it to have much impact.
I am disgusted by this. The worst part is that our politicians probably did it out of ignorance.
The people behind the bonch user account use it to manipulate discussions to a more Apple-friendly, anti-Google slant.
They also employ other user accounts in their astroturfing campaign, such as SharkLaser, DCTech, TechGZ, insightin140bytes, InterestingFella and Overly critical guy.
Fuck.
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
The relevant part to this is " I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;"
I am about to join the army and I am bound by oath not only to not follow this treaty but I am oath bound to actually fight it and I urge others in my position to do the same. To do otherwise, even if ordered to do so, violates your oath you took when you signed up. Kinda bad when we are actually bound by oath to disobey our own laws or treaties for violation of the constitution.
There were MASSIVE protests in Poland aganist ACTA. About 200.000 people on streets. WE DID PROTEST. but goverment didnt hear. so please stop this petition nonsense!
You seem to have missed the part where the Senate has to vote to accept any treaty. Clinton signed Kyoto, but the Senate unanimously rejected it anyway.
Except he may have signed it as an executive agreement and not as a treaty.
http://www.webpronews.com/president-obama-doesnt-support-sopa-but-signs-acta-2012-01
There are many issues involved with President Obama’s signing of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement — which occurred in September 2011 — and whether or not it should be treated as an executive agreement or an actual treaty between the agreeing countries. With an executive agreement, the President does not require the approval of the Senate, whereas, with a treaty, Senate approval is required. That, however, is not the issue, especially when you consider the initial zeal with which the both houses of the U.S. Government supported SOPA and PIPA.
bonch, do you have nothing better to do with your life than spew your hatred for Google and Android all over Slashdot? Here are the anti-Google/Android article summaries you have submitted to Slashdot. Just the summaries, not even counting your many anti-Google comments.
Samsung Moves To Reduce Android Dependence , Apple Closes Marketshare Gap With Android , Apple Beats Android In U.S. Marketshare , Apple Closes In On Android Marketshare , Why Android smartphones are larger than the iPhone , Google Admits Wrongdoing In Mocality Scanda , U.S. Carriers Don't Want Stock Android Phones , iOS Closes Gap With Android Marketshare In U.S. , Google Sponsors Blog Posts To Market Chrome , Java ME Surpasses Android As #2 Mobile Internet OS , Galaxy S And Galaxy Tab Won't Get Android 4.0 , No Such Thing As Android, Only Android-Compatible , Android Chief Andy Rubin Deletes Openness Tweet , Android Update Alliance Is Already Dead , App Developers Betting On iOS Over Android , Europe Accuses Google Of Monopoly Abuse , Samsung Smartphone Sales Report Flawed , Google Reaches $500 Million Settlement With Feds , FTC Probes Android And Google Search , Is Giving Android Away Anti-Competitive? , Google Chairman To Testify At Antitrust Hearing , Google Chairman To Testify At Antitrust Hearing , Google Was Warned On Rogue Drug Ads , Android Users Warned To Avoid Public WiFi , iOS Leads Android U.S Marketshare By 59% , Google Draws Fire From Congress , Google Broke The Law, Says South Korean Poli
http://www.stopacta.info/
help stop it if you dare...
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Apparently not even the EU top ACTA people like the way it has been pushed (or rather shoved): http://falkvinge.net/2012/01/26/eu-acta-chief-resigns-in-disgust-over-disrespect-at-citizens-next-steps/
/ The Arrow
"How lovely you are. So lovely in my straightjacket..." - Nny
I keep looking and researching and still have no answers; did/will Norway sign ACTA? There have been no mention of this country anywhere with relation to ACTA, only ever "the EU" and Switzerland when talking about Europe.
WHich raises the question, why do conservatives (read: folks who want a smaller government) get so much flak on slashdot?
I mean, i know the meme is "conservatives are in bed with the corps", but that reputation is only there because we oppose reams of regulation. Personally, I feel like you have to keep a balance between the two, and I feel like the balance is currently shifted to the "too much government" end of the spectrum.
So next time you jump on a republican's case for being a corporate shill or whatever for refusing some legislation or other, just remember-- youre approving of the ideology that creates these repressive governments you all love to hate.
Conservatives also support outsourcing, huge CEO salaries, tax breaks for corporations, eminent domain, corporate personhood, citizens united..... not just removal of regulations.
Until I took an arrow to the knee! DERP DERP. TITS OR GTFO!
Conservatives also support outsourcing
Says who? Oh, you mean we oppose heavy-handed legislation on outsourcing?
huge CEO salaries,
Says who? Oh, you mean we oppose legislation on how a private company can spend its own money? Yea, I do oppose that.
tax breaks for corporations
I dont think all conservatives would agree with this. You would have to spell out more clearly your proposal before I could make a judgement call; certainly some tax breaks I might support and others I would oppose.
eminent domain
Wait, what???? Where did you hear THAT?
corporate personhood
Again, over generalizing. I dont think being a conservative means you must support corporate personhood, and thats pretty vague language.
not just removal of regulations.
The first several things you listed were directly related to removal or implementation of regulation and legislation.
I’m against ACTA but I think we should let it be passed. Don’t flame me, just hear me out. It’ll give us another argument to protest in the streets and while we’re at it, why not renounce the monetary system I mean we have the technology and we have resources, do we really enjoy having to deal with Dept?
Is it really so enjoyable to do mundane work that can be handled by robots, just for the sake of being stressed out and being burdened by dept?
I say let ACTA pass, since it was supposed to be a secret anyway, then go in the street and change everything. Build up humanity again
For info on what I’m talking about, see Zeitgeist, the movies.