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Flaw In YouTube Takedown Process Exposed

New submitter BraveThumb writes "One independent rap group found it impossible to post their song on YouTube. When they tried to put up their video, they were informed that the copyright belonged to Universal Music, even though the rap group wasn't signed to any label. Another group working with Universal had used the music in a video of their own, which then accidentally leaked online. YouTube's filtering software then blocked the original. The Hollywood Reporter shares what happened and concludes by saying, 'For an industry that's pursuing copyright reform, the portrayal of a copyright regime that works against young artists can't be a good thing.'"

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  1. Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by rhook · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Give them a taste of their own medicine.

    1. Re:Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can't fight fire with fire when they have more napalm than you.

    2. Re:Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      unsigned group's budget for lawyers: $20
      Universal's budget for lawyers: millions

      see the problem?

    3. Re:Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      unsigned group's budget for lawyers: $20
      Universal's budget for lawyers: millions

      Public opinion: priceless.

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    4. Re:Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by headkase · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Getting appreciable public attention? Priceless (no /. doesn't count).

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    5. Re:Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are some things money can buy.

      For everything else, there's lobbyists.

    6. Re:Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Public opinion: $0

      Even with the uproar about bills, ACTA will become the law of the land still.

    7. Re:Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by masternerdguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He's making the mistake of assuming that big corporations are subject to the penalties of law. Forgive him, he must be new here.

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    8. Re:Sue Universal For Copyright Ingringement by Anthony+Mouse · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even with the uproar about bills, ACTA will become the law of the land still.

      If you sit on your duff and do nothing about it? Sure. Or you could make some phone calls like we did against SOPA and maybe we can chalk up another win for the good guys.

  2. "we believe in strong (c)!" (when it suits us!) by wierd_w · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, how is this any different than the commerically incited mass copyright infringements from criaa labels on their back catalogs 3 years ago? Or how they all shamelessly violated copyright on an anticopyright psa?

    These fuckers are classic hipocrites. Hello kettle. I am pot. You are black.

    They only support "artist interests" when it suits their profit motive. The same is true for their support of copyright.

  3. There are flaws alright. by gellenburg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Flaw #1 - Using YouTube to distribute your video. There ARE alternatives now.

    Flaw #2 - Not suing UMG in Small Claims Court for damages. You want Small Claims since Universal would expressly be prohibited from using any lawyers.

    If enough people who've had their videos taken down erroneously sue UMG in small claims court you'll literally bankrupt them.

  4. It works just fine. by MrMista_B · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is this not working as it is intended to? The point of copyright, as the big labels intend it, is to prevent competition from unsigned artists.

  5. The music industry wins by tatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a win for the big labels. They want young artists not affiliated with a label to have a hard time getting their music out there.

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  6. This isn't a flaw by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is one of the many use cases for draconian copyright persecution. It allows the big name corps to lay exclusive claim to all media, even those who they do not represent.

  7. Re:What exactly is the problem with this? by bky1701 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or we could just stop shilling for the copyright industry entirely, get rid of copyright, and go back to actually selling physical objects and considering information free. Worked for, what, ten thousand years? Funny that most of the truly famous music, literature, and art was created before copyright was even a thought.

  8. Re:Song Osmosis by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After the damage was done.

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  9. Re:Slander of title is more like it by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given the hypocrisy of the UMG and the other labels of shooting first and asking questions later when people use *their* music...it's perfectly reasonable to call them out when it shows just how presumptuous they are.

    They didn't ask if they had permission they just 'assumed'. Sort of like I can 'assume' if I find it online it must be free to use right?

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  10. Hollywood designed it this way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not a flaw.

    I make my living teaching, and sometimes post lecture videos online.

    The problem is that big companies copy my videos, and their corporate lawyers automatically copyright them. (WOLFRAM!!!)

    Then, my web sites get taken down with phone notices.

    Hollywood, the software industry, and the recording industry make their livings by stealing from people like me.