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New Privacy Laws Could Boost EU Cloud Industry
sweetpea86 writes "Cloud providers based in the European market could turn the fear, uncertainty and doubt around data protection and the U.S. Patriot Act to their advantage, according to Andy Burton, chairman of the Cloud Industry Forum. The only way that European companies can absolutely guarantee that their data doesn't end up in the hands of U.S. authorities is by choosing a provider that not only has a data centre within their jurisdiction, but is also owned by an organisation based in that jurisdiction."
It must be a nice place in your brain, with little pony and the teletubbies. I mean, do you really believe that?
The Patriot Act has a beautiful record of being abused for all sorts of purposes.
See? See?!? Responsible, consumer-friendly legislation doesn't have to be anti-business.
We've got this thing in my country with the one political party saying that they're pro-consumer and trying to push laws that limit corporate abuses, and the other party saying that they're pro-business and trying to squash anything that would reduce corporate size and influence with the claim that it's necessary for jobs, the economy, etc. Well bullshit. Some consumer-friendly legislation may be anti-established business, but that's not a negative, just thinning the herd. Get rid of the sick and bring on the new.
My employer (a university) decided to outsource the e-mail-facilities for students. Microsoft and Google both made compelling offers, however Google could not promise that our data would never leave Europe. Microsoft did make that promise and was awarded the contract because of it.
A few months later MS had to confess that they couldn't keep that promiss. As the migration was not going smooth at all we are now back talking with Google.
No Company in the EU is safe from the US Gov. End of.
The US has laws that extend ALL US laws into every country in the world. They will use this to come after you if they even have the smallest suspicion that ther might just possibly mabe pehaps be something related to piracy, terrorism, child porn, anti US sentiments somewhere in your data.
Then it will be up to your government to tell the US what they can do with their extradition request. Mostly, they will roll over and let them take you.
The US also has laws where you can be held indefinitely without trial, charge or even access to a lawyer.
If you choose to go with a company that just happens to be a local subsidiary of a US company OR have a US subsidiat itself, they can wealk in without a warrant and take your data.
Where are you going for your hosting now?
> What did they hate us for? Our liberty and freedom?
I suspect they hate you for messing with their countries over and over again. They probably don't give a fuck about your 'liberty and freedom'.
Not all nations in this world kow tow to the mighty Uncle Sam, you know?
True, but the notion there is anyplace that can fully guarantee data does not end up in the hands of the US (or any other country, for that manner) is naive. Each of these countries ha their own self interest at heart, and if the US (or some other country) wants their help doing something they just need to come up with a compelling reason for them to help. Governments also change, as do a nations goals and interests.
The bottom line is, once you cede control of your data to third party, you lose the ability to ensure it will never get passed on to someone's. Or,a s the saying goes, two people can keep a secret only if one of them is dead.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
You misspelled "Jesus" and "Christians." Oh, you weren't talking about the last thousand years of Christianity (up until maybe 150 years ago). My mistake.